[13:19:43] <MaxSem>	 Reedy, where's the PHP fatals log on fenari?
[13:28:57] <TimStarling>	  /var/log/mw/fatal.log
[13:41:26] <MaxSem>	 TimStarling, thanks but it's empty though Reedy's posting fatal-related bugs
[14:10:23] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ottomata; "Replacing calls to _iso_8859_1__utf8 with a single set of GeoIP_set_charset.  Also now including region in everything bird." [analytics/udp-filters] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15539
[14:12:29] <gerrit-wm>	 Change abandoned: Ottomata; "Trying to figure out what happened with my local commit change ids." [analytics/udp-filters] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15539
[14:19:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ottomata; "Replacing calls to _iso_8859_1__utf8 with a single set of GeoIP_set_charset.  Also now including region in everything bird." [analytics/udp-filters] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15541
[14:19:59] <gerrit-wm>	 New patchset: Ottomata; "Fixing help message, the bird is named 'latlon', not 'lonlat'" [analytics/udp-filters] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15542
[14:22:42] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Diederik; "Ok." [analytics/udp-filters] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15541
[14:23:27] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Diederik; "Ok." [analytics/udp-filters] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15542
[15:00:54] <Reedy>	 MaxSem: Fatal error:  Call to a member function getText() on a non-object in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.20wmf6/extensions/MobileFrontend/api/ApiMobileView.php
[15:00:54] <Reedy>	  on line 160 is there again
[15:01:03] <Reedy>	 /home/wikipedia/syslog/apache.log
[15:01:29] <MaxSem>	 Reedy, thanks
[15:03:02] <MaxSem>	 daaaemn, it doesn't log the URL
[15:06:52] <MaxSem>	 heh, srv193 is borken
[18:35:23] <awjr>	 who broke testwiki?
[18:35:26] <awjr>	 edit is broken
[18:38:33] <brion>	 awjr: interesting, looks like php/apache is crashing. (ERR_ZERO_SIZE_OBJECT)
[18:38:42] <awjr>	 aye
[18:46:55] <hashar>	 brion: on production?  or just test.wikipedia.org ?
[18:47:17] <awjr>	 hashar im only seeing it on test
[18:47:19] <awjr>	 here's the err:
[18:47:20] <awjr>	 Request: GET http://test.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Barrio_Santa_Rosa_1342117308397.jpeg&action=edit, from 10.64.0.124 via cp1014.eqiad.wmnet (squid/2.7.STABLE9) to 10.0.2.193 (10.0.2.193)
[18:47:20] <awjr>	 Error: ERR_ZERO_SIZE_OBJECT, errno [No Error] at Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:40:31 GMT
[18:47:28] <hashar>	 I think we are running a new PHP version there
[18:47:30] <hashar>	 or something like
[18:47:31] <hashar>	 that
[18:47:35] <awjr>	 oh fancy
[18:47:41] <brion>	 hashar: on test only noticed it so far
[18:47:42] <hashar>	 no idea if we have a bug report about it
[18:56:10] <awjr>	 oh editing seems to work ok on test if you're logged in
[18:56:15] <awjr>	 or at least, if i'm logged in :p
[19:33:22] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: ping pong :-)
[19:33:37] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: do you happen to know if the selenium ruby stuff is going to use rspec or cucumber ?
[19:33:41] <hashar>	 or is that something else ;)
[19:47:07] <chrismcmahon>	 hi hashar right now I'm thinking RSpec but not Cucumber
[19:47:50] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: thanks :-]
[19:48:00] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar: why do you ask?
[19:48:03] <hashar>	 talked about that with a coworker today
[19:48:06] <chrismcmahon>	 (just curious)
[19:48:26] <hashar>	 told him we were proceeding to use selenium and will use some magic ruby system to drive the web browser
[19:48:38] <hashar>	 then he told me about rspec / cucumber and I could not answer: -]
[19:48:47] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar: might be of interest: http://watirmelon.com/2012/06/22/rspec-page-objects-and-user-flows/
[19:48:54] <hashar>	 also I am wondering about adding test to our operations/puppet repository
[19:49:01] <hashar>	 we just do syntax checking for now
[19:49:24] <hashar>	 ahah
[19:49:26] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar: we're very close to hiring a QA Engineer, and things will move faster after that
[19:49:32] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: I love how you challenge various people :-]
[19:49:43] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: definitely. That will be great to have someone around :-D
[19:50:06] <chrismcmahon>	 hashar: I have a cool test for UploadWizard, just haven't checked it in yet :)
[19:50:29] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: I think marktraceur has made some work on UploadWizard recently
[19:50:35] <hashar>	 he might be your first customer :-D
[19:50:45] <hashar>	 first/premium
[19:50:48] <chrismcmahon>	 yes, that's one reason I want to have a browser test for it
[19:51:13] <chrismcmahon>	 (that, and because I wasn't sure it could be done, but it can)  :)
[19:51:18] <hashar>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/extensions/UploadWizard+is:open,n,z
[19:51:20] <hashar>	 \O/
[19:51:32] <hashar>	 nobody to review him though :(
[19:52:00] <marktraceur>	 hashar: kaldari, I think, is the primary person for review of UW. But he's been busy :)
[19:52:22] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: also I have met the creator of Behat, a BDD framework in PHP which seems to be able to use Selenium as a backend
[19:52:24] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: http://behat.org/
[19:53:02] <chrismcmahon>	 Behat looks like Cucumber :)
[19:53:11] <hashar>	 exactly
[19:53:17] <hashar>	 he basically loved Cucumber
[19:53:22] <hashar>	 and ported it to PHP
[19:53:30] <hashar>	 somehow
[19:53:41] <hashar>	 The driver to drive Selenium is http://mink.behat.org/
[19:54:08] <hashar>	 it supports a browser emulation ( named Goutte )
[19:54:50] <hashar>	 Goutte headless browser. Goutte is a classical pure-php headless browser, written by the creator of the Symfony framework - Fabien Potencier.
[19:54:51] <hashar>	 https://github.com/fabpot/goutte
[19:55:13] <hashar>	 disclaimer:  Behat author works for Fabien Potencier who is the boss of a good friend (who is the technical director hehe)
[19:55:46] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: that is just for the sake of it.  Behat is PHP which is great, but it most probably lack the community the ruby stuff has already
[19:58:41] <chrismcmahon>	 as I understand it, there are something like 6 different Selenium-WebDriver implementations in PHP, none complete and none fully supported.  Se-Webdriver in Ruby is fully compliant with both W3C and HTML5 standards, and RSpec is pretty unique as a way to do test assertions.
[19:59:12] <chrismcmahon>	 and rake integrates nicely with Jenkins, too I believe
[20:29:04] <gerrit-wm>	 New review: Diederik; "Ok." [analytics/udp-filters] (master); V: 1 C: 2;  - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9859
[20:34:01] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ottomata; [analytics/udp-filters] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/9859
[20:36:04] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ottomata; [analytics/udp-filters] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15541
[20:36:24] <gerrit-wm>	 Change merged: Ottomata; [analytics/udp-filters] (master) - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/15542
[21:43:37] <hashar>	 chrismcmahon: will have to test out rake on jenkins one day.  Thanks and have a good day! ;-)
[21:54:24] <shepazu>	 hi, folks, I'm looking for someone to write a MediaWiki extension around an improved commenting interface… is this the right place to ask for interested contractors?
[21:59:59] <shepazu>	 to be clear, I'm looking for someone that I will pay to write the extension
[22:02:28] <inez>	 Hello
[22:02:52] <inez>	 any wikimedia ops around?
[22:55:16] <Reedy>	 		try {
[22:55:16] <Reedy>	 			if( array_key_exists( $colorId, self::$mColors ) ) {
[22:55:16] <Reedy>	 				return self::$mColors[$colorId];
[22:55:16] <Reedy>	 			} else {
[22:55:16] <Reedy>	 				throw new Exception( $colorId );
[22:55:18] <Reedy>	 			}
[22:55:20] <Reedy>	 		} catch( Exception $e ) {
[22:55:22] <Reedy>	 			echo 'Invalid color ID : ' . $e->getMessage() . "\n";
[22:55:24] <Reedy>	 		}
[23:54:14] <Platonides>	 Reedy, that code hurts...!
[23:54:37] <Reedy>	 Yeah
[23:54:44] <Reedy>	 I couldn't work out why the hell you'd do that
[23:58:08] <Platonides>	 where is that color?
[23:58:25] <Platonides>	 enterprisy rules of "errors shall throw an exception"?
[23:58:40] <Reedy>	 It's in Quiz
[23:59:05] <Reedy>	 it's tidied up now