[07:53:37] morning Nikerabbit [07:57:27] hi Reedy [08:35:02] * Reedy continues pacing [08:35:12] s/pacing/packing/ [09:10:23] Reedy: you should disconnect [09:10:25] will make packing faster [09:10:27] ;-D [09:10:38] I've got to be around for Niklas :p [09:10:41] I'm just about done anyway [09:10:47] ohh l10n dep ? [09:10:56] ya [09:11:42] anyway, have a safe trip [09:13:26] hashar: what's your current location?:) [09:18:18] He doesn't fly in till friday it seems [09:18:19] Nantes [09:18:25] I am only flying on friday :( [09:18:30] landing around noon IIRC [09:18:40] ah, alright. cu then [09:18:51] you guys know that BER is not going to open :) [09:18:58] "Flame, a newly-discovered computer virus built for espionage has been named as the most complicated piece of malicious software ever created..." [09:19:09] saper: my plane was scheduled to land on TXL anyway [09:19:16] I heard that earlier on the radio [09:19:23] saper: all the airlines automatically moved the flights [09:19:31] mutante: Reedy where will you be on Friday afternoon ? [09:19:38] hotel / venue / wide office ? [09:19:41] wide/wmde [09:19:43] I get in Wednesday afternoon [09:19:46] saper: yes, SXF or TXL. they used "BER" as a meta-code for like "any airport in Berlin" before [09:20:06] since TXL is closing, SXF get renamed to BER I guess [09:20:16] Paris is sticking to ORY / CDG though [09:20:19] http://www.crysys.hu/skywiper/skywiper.pdf [09:20:44] CDG is too far from Paris hehe [09:20:49] bring cookies! :) [09:20:52] hashar: i think afternoon = check-in at hotel and after that move to venue [09:22:05] Katie_WMDE: what sort? [09:22:08] mutante: are you arriving on friday too ? [09:22:28] saper: there is a train system between CDG / Paris downtown. I guess it is like 30 / 40 minutes aways [09:22:37] Reedy: chocolate? stroopwafels (for the NL folks) [09:22:53] * Katie_WMDE wants mexican cookies ;) [09:24:12] hashar: I know, did that many times; you can even take TGV to l'Est [09:25:00] hashar: i am already in Berlin visiting family, just kind of far from the city center [09:25:56] I'm involved int he wikidata stuff, so I'm not exactly sure where I am when... [09:26:17] Reedy: you're here on thursday and friday [09:26:23] * Katie_WMDE doesn't know where "here" is [09:26:28] heh [09:26:31] that's what I was meaning :D [09:26:35] heh [09:26:55] saper: I am going to take TGV from Nantes straight to CDG ;-D [09:27:04] saper: a 3hours and a half trip though [09:27:11] In the worst case, I'll just appear at the WMDE offices and wander around looking lost [09:27:19] * Katie_WMDE too [09:27:28] * hashar lookup WMDE office address [09:27:38] hashar: very close to the hotel/venue [09:27:49] hooo [09:28:00] Technikmmuseum und Spectrum [09:28:02] sounds appealing [09:28:12] It's the place with the DC-3 on the roof [09:28:18] LOL [09:28:20] (technikmuseum) [09:28:39] oh and the venue is at Gleisdreieck UBahn isn't it ? [09:28:52] I don't think it's at a station ;) [09:29:13] I love berli [09:29:14] n [09:29:23] Du bist ein Berliner. [09:29:29] I need to convince my wife to find a job there ;-] [09:29:35] Which reminds me [09:29:37] no way I am going to be a cookie [09:29:44] Doughnut [09:29:48] I need to put empty beer crates in my car [09:29:51] wikidata days are at the hackathon venue [09:29:55] Luckenwalder Straße 4-6 [09:30:10] Katie_WMDE: since I show up around 2pm on Friday, should I just show up at the venue ? [09:30:24] hashar: yes i think [09:30:50] k [09:30:59] and it looks like there is a golf on north west of venue [09:31:00] ;-D [09:31:33] and a beach [09:31:34] http://www.beach61.de/ [09:31:36] ahhhh [09:31:42] * hashar fill papers to relocate to Berlin [09:31:53] oooh :) [09:32:09] I've got an excess of power adapters [09:33:19] * hashar relocates Reedy to continent so he starts using regular power adapters [09:42:53] hashar: c-base.org [09:43:07] mutante: yeah C-base is a great place [09:43:22] cheap beer, nice people to meet there and calm [09:43:32] I am still not sure how they manage to finance such a big place though [09:44:10] hashar: membership fees of CCC i guess [09:44:21] I guess [09:45:27] they got a couple thousand members paying like 70 euro / year [09:46:37] I will definitely become a member too [09:46:44] $(whenever I move there) [09:54:15] Right, I'm out. Time to get finished off to go [09:54:47] Reedy: bye bye [09:55:02] I'll likely be online later today from Antwerp [13:16:57] !ping [13:16:57] Pong. [13:17:02] !blag is fasgas [13:17:02] Key was added [13:17:05] !blah [13:17:09] !blah [13:17:11] come on [13:17:20] !ping [13:17:21] Pong. [13:17:30] !blag [13:17:31] fasgas [13:17:41] @infobot-link #mediawiki [13:17:41] These channels now share the same infobot db [13:17:41] petan|wk: Unknown identifier (#mediawiki [13:26:41] sorry for spam [13:26:45] @regsearch . [13:26:46] Search took more than 800ms try a better regex [13:26:49] meh [13:30:36] congrats Nikerabbit & siebrand et al. re https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22043 [13:31:10] sumanah: thanks. It's only taken 6.5 years :) [13:31:56] siebrand: Would you like to do the honors, of removing it from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Review_queue ? or does it need to get deployed anywhere such that I should bother Reedy to put it on the Deployment queue? [13:34:00] sumanah: It's active on all Wikimedia wikis now. [13:34:34] sumanah: done. [13:34:46] Congrats [13:44:08] !petan [13:44:08] test [13:44:11] !petan del [13:44:12] Successfully removed petan [16:40:10] Hashar always leaves minutes before I'm about to ping him [16:40:16] I sense a conspiracy [16:40:27] Hi RoanKattouw [16:40:44] Ohai [16:41:15] I messages you on gcal earlier when I was on the train, not sure if you received it [16:41:19] messaged* [16:41:25] er.. gtalk* [16:41:36] Oh [16:41:38] Looking [16:42:59] Krinkle: Ah yes. My calendar event is accurate, I'm on the train that arrives into Hauptbahnhof at 15:20 tomorrow [16:43:05] I thought you were coming out on Thursday? [16:43:32] Yeah, but I found out my hotel check-in was reserved for Wednesday, and I can leave a day earlier. So might as well. No reason not to. [16:43:39] OK cool [16:43:56] Did you reserve a seat? [16:44:02] Yep [16:44:54] I don't expect it will be that crowded though, we can probably sit anywhere (as usual with DB) [16:45:20] Yeah that's probably fine [16:45:38] I was assigned seat 65 in car 5, you anywhere near there? [16:46:03] checking [16:46:17] car 7 , seat 081 [16:46:24] EPA 143, right ? [16:46:59] It says IC 143 here yeah [16:47:16] k [16:47:17] We meet in Deventer [16:47:42] Deventer? Not Hengelo? [16:47:48] Hm.. hengelo indeed [16:48:04] Yeah, Hengelo (I was looking at your entry in the calendar) [16:48:44] I lost my phone though, unless I find it back before tomorrow or get a new one, I won't be able to phone. Maybe just waive hands quickly in Hengelo and get lucky (or just meet in car 6). [16:48:53] I'll probably get a phone though, I want one regardless. [16:55:36] Krinkle: I'll come over to car 7 when we leave Hengelo, easy enough [16:55:43] ok [16:56:17] RoanKattouw: Is there an easy way to get stats on bandwidth usage of a (or all) www portals ? [16:56:41] They have (started to) go the "ResoureLoader way" per my contributions yesterday. [16:57:14] makes the page half as big, and moves css/js combined and minified into bits.wikimedia.org [16:57:39] and less updates of course (update to js doesn't invalidate the page) [16:57:46] and no duplication between all the portals [16:57:47] I don't know, Erik Z or Diederik might know [16:58:01] oh well, anyway, if anything is makes the workflow for the community easier [16:58:05] it* [16:58:23] previously the prices was to copy the css from a sub page into edwards packer and paste it into the www page [16:58:30] heh [16:58:37] * RoanKattouw has to step out for a bit [16:58:37] proces* [16:58:40] ok [18:16:18] Deebki: hi! [18:16:27] Deebki: I have to go do a bit of erranding now [18:17:42] Deebki: but I'll contact you sometime before I get on the plane, to get your update about tutorial progress! [19:17:25] Krinkle-away: you missed fun [19:17:36] @help infobot-shared-on [19:17:36] Unknown command type @commands for a list of all commands I know [19:17:42] @help infobot-share-on [19:17:42] Info for infobot-share-on: Configure channel to share db [19:33:13] Reedy: ukwiki folks told me that they expected stablesettings to be shipped with default FR config but apparently it's not; do they need to file a seperate bug for that? [19:37:29] petan|wk: Awesome! [19:38:28] @infobot-share-on [19:38:29] Krinkle: Invalid arguments [19:38:29] Permission denied [19:38:36] Hm.. [19:38:38] @info [19:38:38] Krinkle: Invalid arguments [19:38:38] http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/dump/%23wikimedia-dev.htm [19:38:51] oh, no longer under ~petan [19:39:34] petan|wk: Where can I see what is shared with what? (is it part of the dump?) [19:39:47] @infotest [19:39:47] Krinkle: Invalid arguments [19:40:01] dbbot-wm: You shouldn't listen unless there is a space after @info, @infotest is not for you! [19:40:03] silly bot [19:40:46] @replagx [19:40:47] Krinkle: [s1] db36: 2s; [s5] db44: 1s [19:40:48] <^demon|busy> Using the same commands for multiple bots is annoying. If I do !cmd or @cmd I'd only want one bot to respond :\ [19:41:08] I know [19:41:13] <^demon|busy> Krinkle: That's why I made the command for mw-jenkinsbot to be "mw-jenkinsbot:" so it's like pinging them :) [19:41:24] Kribo supports that too [19:41:46] Kribo is the IRC framework that dbbot-wm runs on [19:42:04] I'll configure it that way [19:44:02] ^demon|busy: Can you check if there is something uncommitted in php-1.20wmf3? The git hash in Special:Version isn't in the repo [19:44:07] perhaps another local fix that was merged on pull [19:44:18] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Version [19:44:22] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/core.git;h=5451033fd3be633b46398aa037251dc964258df1 [19:44:26] <^demon|busy> |busy really does mean busy today :\ [19:44:34] very well :) [19:44:40] <^demon|busy> I probably should've just avoided IRC ;-) [19:46:46] alolita, did you go to Berlin? [20:03:40] Krinkle: you can't atm [20:03:49] mediawiki is hosting db for this chan [20:04:19] @trustadd .*@mediawiki/Krinkle admin [20:04:19] Successfuly added .*@mediawiki/Krinkle [20:04:42] petan|wk: any more channels sharing it? [20:04:47] tech [20:05:14] anyway you need to define list of channels which have access and then confirm it on guest channel [20:05:21] @help infobot-link [20:05:21] Unknown command type @commands for a list of all commands I know [20:05:25] heh [20:05:33] forgot to insert help for that [20:05:40] @infobot-link blah [20:05:40] petan|wk: Unknown identifier (blah [20:05:41] This channel is already linked to #mediawiki if you want to link it to another channel, you need to remove it [20:07:09] Krinkle: typing this command with blah as parameter is a good way to check which channel it links to XD [20:07:18] blah is not a valid channel anyway [20:07:22] so you can't break much [20:07:27] ok [20:07:33] @infobot-link blah [20:07:33] Permission denied [20:07:33] Krinkle: Unknown identifier (blah [20:07:41] SEC [20:07:50] you are wikimedia? [20:08:02] @trustadd .*@wikimedia/Krinkle admin [20:08:02] Successfuly added .*@wikimedia/Krinkle [20:08:04] yeah [20:08:04] try now [20:08:08] @infobot-link blah [20:08:08] Krinkle: Unknown identifier (blah [20:08:08] This channel is already linked to #mediawiki if you want to link it to another channel, you need to remove it [20:08:51] you need to do @infobot-share-trust+ #blah in #mediawiki to let channel #blah access that db [20:24:41] hurrrr [20:49:51] Got a bug, or rather, a feature request: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=37200 [20:50:21] I'm not sure whether non-standard licenses are something I should include, or if I should explain a workaround to this person [20:50:45] <^demon|busy> marktraceur_: I'm pretty sure that was an option under the old Special:Upload. [20:51:17] <^demon|busy> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Upload says yes. [20:52:24] ^demon|busy, only through copyright tags, which is how you'd have to do it in UW right now (which is what I'm considering as a workaround) [20:53:01] But the copyright tags section is under "This file is not my own work", roughly translated as "This file was licensed some other way somewhere else, I have no control over it" [20:53:53] Which indicates to me that Commons prefers new licenses to be CC-BY-SA, CC-BY, or CC0. [20:54:56] <^demon|busy> Probably "prefers"--but we should still certainly accept any work that's under a free license. [20:55:37] ^demon|busy, so add a field to "my own work" that accepts copyright tags? [20:56:03] <^demon|busy> Possibly. I've not used UploadWizard so I can't truly say. [20:56:09] (sorry to bug you when you're |busy, by the way) [20:56:14] <^demon|busy> Was just commenting on the fact that it is a "commons-approved" license :) [20:56:19] Fair 'nuff [20:56:29] <^demon|busy> I'm not doing a good job of staying |busy :p [20:56:38] I'll let this fellow know how to do the workaround, however imperfect that solution might be, and work on the new field [22:32:30] Deebki: ping [23:07:07] Deebki: will call you [23:27:05] safe trips everyone. See you on the other side :)