[00:05:04] robla: OK good luck with the deployment, I'm off to bed now. I'm glad I could fix three problems on a day I wasn't supposed to work :) [00:05:18] thank you RoanKattouw! [01:24:10] robla, I'm around in that I exist and am on the internet. Currently I'm doing web standards work (and some Gecko hacking) for Mozilla, and don't have any time for MediaWiki, if that's what you were asking, unless someone wants to ask something about code I wrote or something related to web standards. [01:26:01] hi AryehGregor - we were really looking for someone who could tell us if hewikisource is broken after we deploy 1.19, but we may not get to it today/tonight. thanks for getting back to me though! [01:26:27] robla, okay. If it's blatant brokenness that I could spot at a glance, I can look briefly if I'm available. [01:26:31] pgehres: when do you think we'll be ready to head out? [01:26:50] AryehGregor: cool, thanks! we'll ping you if we move forward [01:27:15] we're figuring out what to do about some out-of-memory problems right now on #wikimedia-tech [01:29:15] AryehGregor: how's mozilla going? I have some good friends from there [10:02:31] TimStarling: hi. I really like your comments "Despite the name, this MWDebug class doesn't handle debug logging." :-) [12:00:43] sumanah:will you please help me out in Gsoc ? [12:00:49] hi hber! [12:00:53] I'm happy to help. [12:01:07] So, you're interested in applying to GSoC, to work with MediaWiki? [12:02:15] sumanah:yes [12:02:22] hber: why MediaWiki specifically? [12:04:30] sumanah: mediawiki looks user friendly and I think it is developer friendly too though they are mutually exclusive [12:05:11] hber: well, we hope they are not mutually exclusive in our case! :-) [12:06:50] sumanah: so, I am in mediawiki [12:07:10] hber: what do you mean? do you mean that you have an interest in MediaWiki, or that you have already started working on MediaWiki? [12:08:10] hber: I'm curious -- what gives you the impression that MediaWiki is developer-friendly? I hope it is, but I'm wondering what made you think so. [12:08:13] sumanah: I started learning how todevelop extensions [12:08:17] great! [12:08:28] by the way, hber, how did you hear about us? [12:10:10] sumanah: I am following the tweets and blog posts of yuvi panda from last six months , I heard from him [12:10:25] oh cool! yuvipanda is an interesting and smart guy [12:12:05] hber: so, have you ever installed MediaWiki? [12:14:03] sumanah: I have installed mediawiki and started learning to develop extensions from the link "http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker/Extension_Writing_Tutorial#Exercise_4:_Introducing_.24wgRequest" [12:14:36] sumanah: and I submitted the patch according to the procedure given in that link [12:14:43] Let me look. [12:15:15] hber: are you Bharath? [12:17:36] sumanah:yah? [12:17:56] hber: You tell me -- your "yah?" tells me you are not sure. [12:18:34] sumanah:sorry ,yes I am [12:18:53] hber: ok. Thanks. [12:19:15] (it's tough when all we have is text to communicate with -- little things like question marks take on more meaning....) [12:19:50] hber: so do you have an idea of what to try next? [12:20:08] hber: also, will you go to the Chennai hackathon? Chennai hackathon 17 Mar http://ur1.ca/82v84 [12:23:43] sumanah: I don't have any idea yet , and I heard about the hackathon today [12:24:20] hber: by the way, you can spread the word about MediaWiki and GSoC using these leaflets: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2012#Spread_the_word [12:24:38] hber: come into #mediawiki where there are more people [12:25:25] sumanah:may I know about any hackathon plans in Hyderabad? [12:25:41] hber: you could create an event if you want! [12:25:48] let's talk in #mediawiki [15:21:36] hashar: fancy breaking some wikis? :p [15:23:43] are you plotting 1.19 upgrades? *squint* [15:24:07] oh noes! [15:24:10] robla is up earlyt [15:24:41] I was like "oh no, is it Tuesday? am I about to miss a meeting?" because robla is up so early [15:24:51] (if it were, I would have a meeting with him in 6 min) [15:25:13] just checking in for a bit.....going to go talk to real estate agent and then be into work [15:26:45] Reedy: nothing spectacularly broken, I take it? [15:26:55] there seems to be a little javascript weirdness on meta [15:27:32] anyway, rushing off in a couple of minutes [15:27:42] I've not seen anything [15:27:54] enwikibooks and enwikiquote (iirc?) would give us a bit more coverage [15:28:46] alright....if you can scare up Amir, I'd say also do hewikisource. [15:28:59] make sure guillom or someone helps with edit notices [15:30:04] No sign of Amir at the moment [15:37:51] Boo, guillom isn't actually about [15:55:38] Reedy: sorry I did not catch your message earlier [15:55:46] "hashar: fancy breaking some wikis? :p" [15:55:50] heh, it's ok ;) [15:55:51] go ahead. I can break whatever you want [15:56:12] I got a bit less than 2 hours though [15:56:16] If Guillom was around, there's a few more we could 1.19 [15:56:34] RobH: [15:56:42] RobH: err sorry I mean Roan [16:03:28] PHP Warning: filemtime() [function.filemtime]: stat failed for /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.17/extensions/WikiEditor/modules/./images/toc/open.png in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.18/includes/resourceloader/ResourceLoaderFileModule.php on line 380 [16:03:30] yeahhh [16:03:35] that is spamming the apache error log [16:04:01] not sure why it references a php-1.17 file [16:08:22] hashar: old cache entries that aren't supposed to be there any more [16:08:59] which cache is it? Cant we clean them up?? [16:09:34] we can [16:09:42] it's the resource loader database tables [16:09:46] Roan was going to do it at some point [16:09:50] But feel free to do it before! [16:10:00] i will just open a bug for him [16:10:17] cause I have no idea what cache it is nor how to flush it :D [16:10:30] truncate table? :D [16:10:46] shah I am not allowed to do that :-) [16:11:00] my insurer refuse to cover the TRUNCATE statement ! [16:11:05] s//filemtime/@filemtime/ [16:11:19] that happens each time we remove files [16:11:30] yeah [16:12:04] we could symlink 1.17 to 1.18, but that just feels icky [16:23:05] how do I authenticate with gerrit ? [16:23:44] OrenOf: with your Labs account [16:25:27] no certificate - just password ? [16:25:52] yup [16:27:24] what port ? [16:28:00] it crashes [16:28:16] it cannot get branches [16:30:22] git clone ssh://@gerrit.wikimedia.org:29418/some/path/to/repo.git [16:30:27] so port 29418 [16:30:33] you will want to install git-review too [16:30:39] using pip (Python package installer) [16:31:05] https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Git-review [16:31:36] hashar: can you add git-review details to the [[Git/Workflow]] document, please? [16:32:03] whenever I read Git/Worflow yes :-) [16:48:52] hashar: want to do frwikisource? [16:49:13] sure :-D [16:50:06] Best set sitenotice now and we can do it in a bit ;) [16:55:46] hashar: I do like the new diffs in CR [16:56:26] hexmode: your r93397 cause bug 34421 (duplicate headers in email) see https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/93397 / https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34421 [16:56:52] I was afraid it was me :( [16:57:08] it is probably a trivial error [16:57:13] hashar: you're fixing? [16:57:18] you can talk about it to iAlex, I think he know that part of the code [16:57:55] well I suspected the bug to be either from iAlex or you so I just handled bissecting [16:58:03] might give it a shot later to night but not right now [16:58:09] oh, I can fix probably unless ialex is, thanks for tracking. [16:58:28] Reedy: I did a table for the diff to be able to insert comment bellow each line (ala gerrit ) [16:58:45] but, yeah, I've got some other stuff [16:59:02] Reedy: the commenting patch did not receive that much attention since we decided to move to gerrit and patch got reverted in january IIRC [16:59:16] hexmode: maybe tag it for platformeng? [16:59:27] will do :) [17:00:06] frwikisource is on 1.19wmf1 [17:00:37] that is fast migration! [17:00:52] do you have a step by step process to follow for wmf upgrades? [17:01:01] cause I might be able to help if you need [17:01:03] wikiversions.dat [17:01:06] find the dbname [17:01:11] change php-1.18 to php-1.19 [17:01:23] sync-wikiversions message here [17:01:48] eowiki, hewikisource and betawikiversity are left [17:01:52] can't do he without amir [17:02:13] so I can do eowiki ? :D [17:02:48] do you speak esperanto? ;) [17:03:05] yeah it is much like french with O and A added at the end of word [17:03:10] :D [17:03:19] jeo parla esperanto courramento [17:03:28] (I speak esperanto fluently) [17:03:52] brion does speak esperanto but he is hiding behind TWO underscores!! [17:04:09] is that to write the site notice? [17:05:06] nope, that needs doing manually [17:05:09] just did it for eowiki [17:08:30] see [17:08:36] I told you esperanto is not that hard! [17:09:40] I just got welcomed to frwikisource [17:09:42] wheee [17:11:59] Reedy: once sync-wikiersions is done, how do you get the database upgraded? [17:12:08] it's already been done [17:12:18] all changes are backwards compatible [17:15:52] hashar: going to do it? :D [17:17:40] for eowiki ? [17:17:45] sure. Lets try [17:18:04] !seen robla [17:18:04] --elephant-- I don't know anything about "seen". [17:18:08] hrm [17:18:24] he was there 2 hours ago [17:18:25] roughl [17:18:36] ya [17:18:38] I am not sure how long is his commute [17:18:53] istr one of the bots around here knows about !seen. no big deal. [17:20:22] eowiki php-1.19 [17:20:42] ya [17:20:44] yeah that file is not under subversion :D [17:21:08] $ sync-wikiversions 'moving eowiki to 1.19' [17:21:09] wikiversions.cdb successfully built. [17:21:09] Copying wikiversions dat file to apaches... [17:21:34] *hashar various apaches sending connection timed out [17:21:44] success http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciala??o:Versio [17:22:02] so you have applied 1.19 schema changes to all wiki before the switches ? [17:22:40] Asher has been doing them all [17:22:45] adding rev_sha1 isn't quick ;) [17:24:54] thanks for training me :-?? [17:24:59] might be useful oneday [17:25:06] heh [17:25:14] it's all on the hetdeploy page on wikitech [17:26:55] ohhh [17:27:05] Orange (major ISP in France) is deploying deep packet inspection [17:27:23] they are monitoring all their customer content !! [17:29:34] Lovely... [17:32:13] the good internet is going to die :-( [17:56:49] So apparently inheritance in php doesn't work how you think it should [17:59:04] Reedy: is this an LSB rant? [18:13:18] 15 min stand-up in IRC in 2 min [18:16:38] hi folks! [18:16:54] *robla digs up the list of people to ping [18:17:26] hexmode: replag cleared up on s3 yet? [18:17:46] I just ran the rev report about 3 min ago [18:19:33] oh, I have a bug someone just emailed me about that looks pretty serious in a "this would be a good way for someone to put stress on the site" kind of way [18:19:34] today it's just preilly (who I believe is still out) and Aaron|away [18:19:52] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34451 [18:21:33] hexmode: is that new one? [18:21:55] robla: yep, just recorded it [18:22:18] hexmode: as in "was this new since 1.18"? [18:22:38] they use enwiki as an example, so I assume not [18:23:35] I'll see if the 1.19 wikis show the same problem [18:24:18] ok....let's make that a normal priority bug [18:24:19] ok, so, we've upgraded he.wikisource, fr.wikisource, eo.wikipedia, beta.wikiversity, en.wikiquote, and en.wikibooks [18:24:35] sumanah: is this today? [18:24:54] robla: I have just gone through to all of those sites' Special:Version pages and verified -- I presume it was today [18:25:10] "1.19wmf1 (r111194)" [18:25:14] funny ol' Reedy [18:25:41] robla: happened while you were at your appointment, I figure. [18:26:00] did those folks get banner notices? [18:26:14] I do not know. [18:26:43] I didn't see them on the sites when I checked [18:27:18] regardless, hexmode, are you checking all their Village Pumps? and who else is on the effort to look and listen for feedback from those communities? [18:27:43] so, I got some people to check village pumps for non-english wikis [18:28:04] next deployment: Tuesday, February 21 (to Feb 22), 23:00-03:00 UTC (3pm-7pm Pacific Time): MediaWiki 1.19 stage 2 deployment (commons) [18:28:05] and I'll be checking the english ones right after this [18:28:38] hexmode: could you list the people who are checking the non-English wikis? [18:30:03] robla: tomorrow is Tim, Nikerabbit, and awjr. [18:30:27] ? [18:30:33] Nikerabbit: 20% time [18:30:38] yeah http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Server_admin_log [18:30:44] sumanah: the few people I've pinged are here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:MarkAHershberger/Weekly_reports/2012-02-20 [18:30:49] robla: awjr is probably still going to be catching up from his trip; I don't know what Niklas and Tim should prep to do [18:30:55] brion__: ping? [18:31:04] sumanah: ^ server admin log shows when the changes happened [18:31:15] of course, duh. thanks Rob. [18:31:30] Reedy seems to be afk. I wonder who he handed off to [18:31:36] thanks hexmode. [18:31:44] hashar doesn't seem to be around either [18:31:53] dinner perhaps? [18:35:02] robla: ok, I know you have to scoot. I'll add a status to the 1.19/roadmap about today's rollout, if you don't mind [18:35:31] sumanah: fwiw I just got done talking to ironholds about how to focus on the task force [18:35:39] and steps going forward [18:36:19] *hexmode starts an email to phillipe and maggie as the first thing [18:37:09] so what's scheduled for today? (I'm looking at http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Software_deployments) [18:37:23] no 1.19 rollouts :) [18:37:57] apergos: oh, rob h told me a bit more about letting people in _security [18:38:21] he said you can add them to the "invite not needed" list [18:38:32] so they can get in any time [18:38:36] sure [18:38:51] so, he did that for me :) [18:39:02] oh. I didn't realize you weren't! [18:39:03] :-( [18:39:32] but glad it's done [18:39:39] yeah, I thought you had set it up, evidently not. which is why I mentioned it. [18:39:44] :) [18:39:52] I did someone, I think Niklas [18:40:46] thanks sumanah [18:42:01] robla: done. [18:51:46] robla, sumanah: have any time today to chat about git and labs? [18:52:17] (this is really regarding account policy and access levels) [18:52:23] I do, over the next hour and then again in about 3 hours [18:53:15] Ryan_Lane: the next few hours look busy for him & for me, actually, with an open slot in about 90 min [18:54:09] posssssssibly. I'm still deep in 1.19 stuff, and have a lot of meetings today [18:57:03] *Ryan_Lane nods [18:57:07] it's no rush [18:57:15] we have a meeting with legal tomorrow to discuss some things [18:57:41] Ryan_Lane: do you already have, written down anywhere, "this is what I think the policy ought to be"? if I can read that, it'll make my life easier [18:57:48] I just wanted to make sure we're somewhat on the same page. [18:57:50] even if it's just indented bullet points [18:58:08] I do not. we'd discussed it some in the past. let me write something up really quick [18:58:25] I was going to write an email to engineering, but then decided it might be better to wait for legal [18:58:31] it's kind of chicken and egg [19:26:01] sumanah, robla: ok. I wrote an email to the engineering list. we probably don't need a meeting, I'd just like to know if this looks sane before I talk to legal about it (and other things) [19:27:24] thanks, Ryan_Lane [19:28:19] at some point we will need a unified glossary somewhere that explains: labsconsole, labs, project (Labs), project (git/gerrit), instances, bastion [19:28:47] in fact, I bet the lawyers will be happy if they can read such a thing tomorrow [19:29:16] kaldari: hope my list o' links email was helpful [19:29:20] morning K4-713 [19:29:33] yes [19:29:42] Good morning, werdna! [19:43:52] AaronSchulz: Hello :) Got a bug for you while you were sleeping https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34440 [19:44:15] TrevorParscal: can we get some help on a resource loader issue? [19:44:22] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34450 [19:44:57] I think it's bad enough we should postpone any other deployments if we don't figure it out [19:46:58] robla: glad you pointed me that direction, then [19:48:04] back in 15 [19:49:03] *TrevorParscal talks to Roan about https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34450 [20:09:54] hexmode: if you have a moment, could you double-check https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33762 ? it says it's fixed in 1.19 but I don't think it is, I want to be sure I'm not mistaken. I believe http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Uncategorizedpages-summary should show something other than what it does. [20:11:44] chrismcmahon: I see it here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UncategorizedPages?uselang=qqx [20:13:13] hexmode: as I read 33762, MediaWiki:Uncategorizedpages-summary should exist but does not. [20:13:22] "MediaWiki:Uncategorizedpages-summary" [20:13:53] ah, I think I got it [20:14:10] yeah, compare enwiki with meta :) [20:14:18] got to go pick up my daughter [20:14:47] nope, still no https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:UncategorizedPages-summary [20:35:21] hexmode: chrismcmahon: sumanah: I'd like chrismcmahon and hexmode to work together on whittling down our backlog of unprioritized bugs, and least catching all of them from this past week. Sound reasonable? [20:35:35] yes, sounds good to me [20:35:39] how many are there right now? [20:35:53] robla: I assume you mean, unprioritized bugs for MediaWiki core + WMF-deployed extensions, right? [20:36:01] sumanah: yes [20:36:06] hexmode stepped out for a bit I think [20:36:17] back [20:36:23] ohai :) [20:36:44] should be only 13 or so unprio bugs [20:37:05] chrismcmahon: that isn't talking about things tagged "enhancement" [20:37:14] which I don't prioritize [20:37:15] well, make sure you're looking at the whole list, not just a narrow query [20:37:26] it's too hard to get the query right without huge blind spots [20:37:36] robla: I've been doing that for a while now [20:37:42] robla: somewhat amusing to see that most (all?) of the fatals being reported seem to be 1.18 [20:38:05] "a while" = 4-6 weeks [20:38:42] Reedy: it's still quite possible that they are 1.19 deployment related, though, right? [20:39:43] chrismcmahon: oh, I also haven't been looking at the semantic mw extensions [20:40:27] *chrismcmahon fools with BZ searches [20:40:29] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34410 + https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34417 are the only unprioritized non-enhancement bugs on WMF-deployed extensions [20:40:30] but those (!"enhancement" and !"*semantic*") are the only filters [20:40:53] sumanah: fixed [20:40:53] :p [20:41:08] chrismcmahon: [20:41:08] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/query.cgi?bug_severity=blocker&bug_severity=critical&bug_severity=major&bug_severity=normal&bug_severity=minor&bug_severity=trivial&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&columnlist=priority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cproduct%2Ccomponent%2Cchangeddate%2Cshort_short_desc&field0-0-0=component&field0-1-0=component&priority=Unprioritized&query_format=advanced&resolution=--- [20:41:14] robla: hexmode: chrismcmahon: I've shared a search in bugzilla that's also linked from https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Sumanah that is useful as a starter for these things [20:42:15] Reedy: clarify? [20:42:41] "fixed"? [20:43:00] it's now prioriti[sz]ed [20:43:12] sumanah: Last night I was thinking about starting a multi-lang volunteer task force to look at village pumps. Ironholds suggested pinging Phillippe and Maggie. Robla said I should ask you and Guillame to head up coordination. thoughts? [20:43:42] hexmode: yes, a multi-lang volunteer task force to report problems from Village Pumps is probably a good idea. [20:43:51] I suggest Guillaume to coordinate. [20:44:14] k, I'll talk to him and Phillippe and Maggie [20:44:21] Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34417 is not prioritized yet [20:45:19] sumanah: looks like a feature req to me: what priority do you think it should be? [20:45:47] hexmode: are you talking about Don't show the button on own userpage - https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34417 ? it's a moot point now, Reedy just prioritized it. [20:45:56] k [20:49:02] ok, robla, chrismcmahon, hexmode, I think there are currently 4 unprioritized non-enhancement BZ issues open for MediaWiki [20:50:00] I wouldn't mind a second set of eyes on the ones that have already been prioritized. I'd like to make sure we're not letting anything really important slip through the cracks [20:50:16] 34382, 34385, 34413, 34455 [20:50:47] chrismcmahon: if you get the chance to look at prioritized bugs, that would help... [20:50:57] 14 unprio overall [20:52:29] not sure I'm in a position quite yet to judge priority, but I'll certainly look. [20:52:51] also, I'm still not convinced that https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33762 is actually fixed for 1.19 [20:52:54] robla: did brion mention this one to you? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34385 [20:53:45] Hrm... are we responsible for Acawiki? I'll have to start looking at semantic mw (smw) [20:54:25] hexmode: SMW is not deployed on any WMF sites [20:54:50] (as far as I know) [20:55:13] sumanah: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34390 [20:55:27] It's on labs [20:56:12] labsconsole even [20:56:26] hexmode: http://acawiki.org/AcaWiki:Communications if you want to communicate with them [20:56:28] yes.... worry worry [20:56:39] AcaWiki is run by AcaWiki Inc., a 501(c)(3) non profit corporation incorporated in California, U.S.A. The project is grateful to have a seed grant from the Hewlett Foundation to get off the ground. AcaWiki was founded by Neeru Paharia. A small group of volunteers is working on the project, including Jodi Schneider, Mako Hill, and others. Also, Christopher Adams and Jon Phillips from Fabricatorz are growing the project actively and accelerating [20:56:40] development issues. (Feel free to add your name here!) [20:56:48] Reedy: how did Ryan_Lane get away with that? [20:56:51] http://acawiki.org/AcaWiki:FAQ#Who_is_running_this_project.3F [20:57:01] hexmode: it's not a large scale deployment [20:57:10] it's not working on a large dataset [20:57:20] hexmode: same as parserfunctions, it's fine until you go mad with it [20:57:31] What do you think enwiki would try if they had sm* available? [20:57:33] k, well, if you aren't freaking out about it, I won't [20:57:48] who knows [20:57:54] wait till they get LUA [20:58:12] hexmode: http://acawiki.org/Special:Version they're running MW 1.16.5 [20:59:06] ok, so, per robla's instructions, hexmode, chrismcmahon, checking prioritizations of the bugs that have come in this week is your current task. Right? [20:59:54] I thought robla said 1.19 and village pump patrol [21:00:09] robla: So about that 1.19 blocker [21:00:18] but if chrismcmahon can check my work, I'd be greatful [21:00:32] I think it's probably an infrastructural problem [21:00:39] hexmode: do you have a search link handy so we're on the same page? [21:00:52] yeah. labsconsole will never be a large enough wiki for SMW to cause performance problems [21:01:06] the one I sent above should work. 1s and I'll shorten it [21:01:45] chrismcmahon: http://hexm.de/ew [21:01:52] ew! [21:02:17] those are the currently unprioritized ones [21:02:21] *chrismcmahon tries to figure how to save a search in BZ [21:02:23] Hmph [21:02:25] 2012-02-16 21:01:14 mw27 enwikibooks: /wiki/Extraeditbuttons.js?action=raw&ctype=text%2Fjavascript Exception from line 897 of /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.19/includes/WebRequest.php: Invalid file extension found in the path info or query string. [21:02:29] That's a problem [21:02:47] ha, got it, or at least good enough [21:03:56] Oooooh [21:04:02] Some parts o f bug 34450 are IE7-specific [21:04:10] Thanks for that clarification chrismcmahon [21:04:36] robla: That blocker bug is an annoying one that I'll investigate, but I don't think it's a blocker [21:04:40] RoanKattouw: and the FF behavior looks definitely incorrect to me. [21:05:05] Well, you filed one ticket for three problems [21:05:12] So let me sit down at my desk and disentangle them [21:05:48] RoanKattouw: I actually questioned that at the time. Do you prefer that sort of report to be split out among different tickets? [21:06:06] If they're different problems, yes, unless you have reasons to believe they have the same root cause [21:06:10] When in doubt, file separately [21:06:22] RoanKattouw: in my mind it was one set of behaviors manifested differently in different browsers, but I'll remember that. [21:06:39] I personally don't mind duping tickets occasionally if that means I never have to split them [21:06:50] ack [21:06:56] Well, yeah, but arrow display is not related to tab order is not related to showing the Jump to: thing [21:07:53] But I'm glad you thought about it and I'm glad you're taking my recommendations :) [21:16:07] oh Bugzilla you so crazy: Request-URI Too Large [21:16:08] The requested URL's length exceeds the capacity limit for this server. [21:17:05] haha [21:18:03] chrismcmahon: <3 bugzilla [21:20:01] no unprioritized bugs :) [21:20:21] me starts CR FIXME nagging [21:20:33] how did we get revs with FIXMEs in them? [21:20:47] fwiw, I find 360 unresolved bugs since Jan 1 for MW/MW Extensions, any priority, any severity, not "semantic". [21:21:20] filter out enhancements [21:21:24] and the search is not saveable [21:21:26] ok [21:22:01] What do you mean "not savable"? Let me try.... [21:22:06] 225 bugs not 'enhancement' [21:22:32] "URI too large" [21:22:52] probably because I included all "Components" [21:24:33] heh, yeah, don't specify all of them, don't select any [21:24:43] and all will be found [21:26:24] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug%20creation]&query_format=advanced&chfieldfrom=1-1-2012&list_id=90990&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=nowords&value0-0-0=semantic&resolution=---&product=MediaWiki&product=MediaWiki%20extensions [21:26:26] ah. https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=WM%20open%20bugs%20since%20Jan%201%202012&list_id=90989 [21:26:35] #380 bugs there [21:26:45] 225 in mine [21:27:40] yeah, I didn't keep enhancement out, so I believe you ;) [21:28:42] hrm... have to look at yours... I've got 241 [21:30:46] chrismcmahon: could you edit your search and then paste the url? I can't use un-shared named searches [21:32:00] one sec. [21:32:47] does this help? Creation date: (is greater than or equal to) 2012-01-01 [21:32:47] Severity: blocker, critical, major, normal, minor, trivial [21:32:47] Status: NEW, ASSIGNED, REOPENED [21:32:48] Priority: Highest, High, Normal, Low, Lowest, Unprioritized [21:32:48] Product: MediaWiki, MediaWiki extensions [21:32:48] Component: (does not contain the string) Semantic [21:33:08] hrm... yeah, let me see [21:33:24] Reedy: Can we MFT r111685 which is a minor OCD fix on the surface but might just possibly the the cause of the bug that's driving robla crazy right now? [21:33:28] !r 111685 | Reedy [21:33:28] --elephant-- Reedy: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111685 [21:33:42] heh [21:33:45] yeah [21:33:59]