[00:01:12] She's gone [00:01:15] bah [00:49:38] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/mobile-tutorial-practice is where Tomasz is running through a mobile tutorial [00:49:54] Goal of tutorial: building Wikipedia Android app using the cross-platform PhoneGap framework with Eclipse [01:44:28] sumanah, trunk apisandbox is live [01:44:34] thank you Reedy [01:44:49] did it earlier, then you'd gone [01:52:14] sorry Reedy, I'm running through practice trainings/tutorials [16:02:29] hey ottomata, has anyone pointed you to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_architecture_document/text yet? [16:02:44] ohhhh nope! [16:02:51] oh niiiice [16:02:52] thanks [16:03:55] ottomata: also: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Code_review_guide and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Developer_hub [16:05:52] oh super awesome [16:05:52] thank you [16:06:25] ottomata: there's also a bunch of documentation on wikitech.wikimedia.org [16:06:57] amazing [16:07:04] SO many links to read! [16:07:04] hah [16:07:13] ottomata: omg did no one show you these? [16:07:26] not those ones, nope, [16:07:48] well I can guess they might have generally pointed you at mediawiki.org [16:13:24] sumanah, is that page going to stay where it is now? [16:13:34] ([[Manual:MediaWiki architecture]]) [16:13:37] Nemo_bis: which one? [16:13:58] I don't know, Nemo_bis -- guillom could speak to that [16:14:02] ok [16:14:27] and I still have to figure out what happened of test wikis, the day after we talked about it most were closed... [16:14:52] Nemo_bis, yes, the page's location should be stable from now on. [16:14:59] (hello sumanah & ottomata ) [16:15:39] guillom, thanks. I asked because some section point to other pages for "more info" and those pages actually have less. :-) [16:15:58] like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_architecture_document/text#Languages [16:16:05] Nemo_bis, ah, well, you know what they say: it's a wiki :) [16:16:38] well, yes, but one would need to split the page and write a summary... [16:16:46] or duplicate the content [16:16:56] or redirect topic pages to the sections... [16:16:59] :?? [16:19:52] or to keep it easy and not disrupt this wonderful page, guillom, do you think it makes sense to add anchors to link directly pieces of info such this one I added recently? https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Manual%3AMediaWiki_architecture&action=historysubmit&diff=475702&oldid=473325 [16:24:08] Nemo_bis, I'm happy to donate the page to the MediaWiki community and to let the community decide whether the content should be split / summarized / expanded. [16:25:45] guillom is the Santa Claus of documentation evidently [16:27:00] sumanah, thanks for the additional links on gadgets; I'm in the process of finishing my work on these pages. [16:28:18] guillom: great! that is great news. I think the gadget kitchen page has the right tone & idea right now; where do you think you'll be putting your more consolidated material on gadgets? [16:28:23] there or somewhere else? [16:29:17] sumanah, my plan was to add more links to the gadget kitchen [16:29:19] guillom: you probably have not listened to the recording from yesterday but we definitely ran across a "oh, that doc is not very discoverable" moment regarding the fact that most of the good docs are under the ResourceLoader page(s) [16:29:22] guillom: yay! sounds great [16:30:03] I don't know which recording you're referring to, but yes, I wanted to link to the ResourceLoader doc, among others. [16:30:15] guillom: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gadget-tutorial-practice.ogg [16:30:21] guillom: I am glad and agree [16:30:38] guillom: it is fine for you to not listen to that recording anytime soon or even at all :-) [16:30:44] ok :) [16:30:55] I just wanted to put it up and link to it in case there is a disaster this weekend and we don't get any usable audio or video from the tutorials [16:31:03] I am glad I can continue to listen to showtunes while working, then. [16:31:08] HAHA [16:31:32] "seventy-six trombones in the morning sun...." [16:31:51] "but he doesn't know the territory!" [16:32:01] :) [16:32:18] guillom: there was also a practice session re mobile which led to http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/mobile-tutorial-practice [16:32:19] Right now it's Wicked. [16:32:33] guillom: and now it is time for me to defy gravity and get out of my hotel room [16:32:39] hehe [16:32:40] l8r sk8r [17:07:52] hey folks, I'm looking for something like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:User_Merge_and_Delete but that does mass merges [17:08:12] being able to, say, select all the users and then unselect those I don't want to merge [17:08:19] (I have thousands of spam accounts) [17:08:46] or better, something that truly purges those user accounts [17:09:08] any suggestions? [17:09:41] oops wrong channel :) [17:25:56] ^demon: thanks for r109627 [17:26:10] <^demon> yw. [19:49:00] AaronSchulz: the two containers we're sharding are wikipedia-commons-thumb,wikipedia-en-thumb right? [19:49:25] at least those two, probably not any others [19:49:43] I guess you could check fr,ru,zh file sizes [19:49:47] ok, for the time being, the eqiad cluster is getting set up with those two. [19:49:55] it's configurable per cluster [19:50:00] so we can change the list for production. [19:50:39] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/1986 [19:51:19] bah. I didn't pass the lint check. [19:51:22] ::sigh:: [19:54:27] stoopid missing comma. [20:01:42] what language are we using for test suites of MW stuff run from the command line (like maintenance scripts etc)? [20:01:52] or what platform, is there anything at the moment? [20:05:08] apergos: phpunit locally and jenkins somewhere? [20:05:55] hmm [20:06:00] ok, lemme look at those [20:45:51] hey :) [21:54:20] Is it possible to add tabs on special pages such as on article pages? I want to add a discussion and a history tab, amongst others. [21:56:55] JeroenDeDauw, I am using a $par for allowing to present different content in a special page [22:35:08] is udp2log-aft supposed to be running on locke? or just emery? [23:44:47] AaronSchulz: I'm loading the new rewrite code in, and looking at rewrite.py and swift.php. Swift.php has the container name as {$site}-{$lang}-media-thumb but rewrite has it as "%s-%s-local-%s" % (match.group('proj'), match.group('lang'), zone [23:45:10] which is correct, or are they just talking about different types of containers? [23:45:25] Swift.php needs updating, I have working copy changes to commit [23:45:56] ok. I need them to deploy the new rewrite, don't I? [23:46:08] I'm tempted to just use SwiftFileBackend instead for that script [23:46:23] you can ignore Swift.php for now [23:47:13] ok. [23:47:17] when I created that script originally, I was expecting it to be deployed before the swift backend class was written [23:47:48] whether I should rewrite it in that way depends on whether we deploy thumbnails before 1.20 or not [23:48:01] (MW 1.20) [23:48:16] thumbnails will be deployed before 1.20 [23:48:22] possibly even before 1.19. [23:48:30] s/possibly/likely/ [23:48:32] opps, I meant 1.19