[00:53:55] <Reedy>	Still 80k items in the commons uploadstash...
[01:31:39] <kaldari>	If you're outputting a MediaWiki message to a special page, what sort of escaping is appropriate for that?
[01:32:50] <^demon>	If you're injecting it into html then htmlspecialchars()
[01:33:05] <^demon>	Or something like wfMsgHtml() that does escaping for you.
[01:34:19] <kaldari>	does that leave stuff like <div>?
[01:34:31] <kaldari>	and escape stuff like <script>?
[01:34:51] <vvv>	You want it to be parsed?
[01:35:00] <vvv>	By wikitext parser?
[01:35:02] <kaldari>	yeah, that would probably be best
[01:35:17] <vvv>	You'd need wfMsgExt
[01:35:28] <vvv>	With either parse or parseinline option
[01:35:37] <kaldari>	cool, thanks!
[01:35:45] <vvv>	(the latter strips <p>s if I recall correctly)
[01:36:59] <^demon>	*nod* that's correct.
[01:39:24] <kaldari>	I need to keep the <p>s so I guess the parse option is best
[02:00:33] <Tim-away>	what is InterfaceConcurrency meant to support?
[02:27:36] <AaronSchulz>	Tim-away: moodbar or something
[02:27:47] <jorm>	yes.
[02:27:53] <jorm>	feedbackdashboard, actually.
[02:28:02] <jorm>	to prevent two people from editing the same thing.
[02:28:14] <jorm>	but we're also wanting to use it with new page patrol, i believe.
[02:28:19] <jorm>	raindrift is the primary author.
[02:28:19] <AaronSchulz>	it doesn't have to be 100% bulletproof though
[22:58:21] <sumanah>	http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/Gadget-tutorial is the current rough text/notes from a gadget tutorial for tomorrow
[22:58:25] <sumanah>	to accompany the Gadget Kitchen page
[23:02:43] <sumanah>	we also just did a practice run of the tutorial, varnent, and recorded the audio, so brion is about to upload that to Commons.
[23:06:07] <brion_>	oh uploadwizard, this is so much nicer with a progress bar now
[23:06:56] <sumanah>	thank you brion_
[23:07:24] <sumanah>	Thanks to Daniel Kinzler & Stephen LaPorte for participating as guinea pigs!
[23:07:34] <brion_>	sumanah: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Gadget-tutorial-practice.ogg
[23:07:37] <brion_>	\o/
[23:07:55] <sumanah>	huzzah!
[23:09:23] *sumanah 	adds metadata
[23:11:57] *sumanah 	dumps Etherpad into https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Gadget_kitchen/Training
[23:12:34] *sumanah 	adds those to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Volunteer_coordination_and_outreach/Training_materials#.22Raw.22_materials
[23:12:47] <sumanah>	if only guillom were here, he might shed a happy tear
[23:15:07] <sumanah>	hashar: sorry for being a bit curt earlier, I was trying to do 3 things at once
[23:17:40] <sumanah>	hashar: I added your idea: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Hackathon_January_2012/Teams#Accessibility:_skip_content_to_make_screenreaders_happier
[23:18:20] <hashar>	sumanah: I am more than happy to have been paused and resumed :D
[23:18:57] <hashar>	PID=`pidof hashar`; kill -STOP $PID; sleep 3600; kill -CONT $PID
[23:19:32] <hashar>	thanks for that sumanah !
[23:26:44] <sumanah>	hiya Krinkle!
[23:26:51] <Krinkle>	Hi
[23:26:57] <sumanah>	how's it going?
[23:27:10] <Krinkle>	Good :)
[23:28:17] <sumanah>	Krinkle: perhaps you saw my pleading :-)
[23:28:23] <sumanah>	re ApiSandbox
[23:28:44] <Krinkle>	sumanah: I'm behind on email, it is in email ?
[23:28:58] <sumanah>	Krinkle: wikitech-l + a bugmail.
[23:29:13] <sumanah>	Krinkle: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33801
[23:29:14] <Krinkle>	Can you point to the bug ? I've got like 3k bugspam
[23:29:28] <Krinkle>	:)
[23:29:36] <sumanah>	I'd very much like for these UI fixes to be made and deployed by this weekend's hackathon when we're introducing 80 developers to the web service API.  Can anyone volunteer some time in the next day or so for these fixes?
[23:31:03] <Krinkle>	Well, it certainly needs a redo at some point but I can grab some low hanging fruit to make it more usable
[23:31:18] <sumanah>	Krinkle: that would be lovely, if you have time today and/or tomorrow
[23:31:22] <Krinkle>	other than that, I don't have much time on short notice.
[23:31:34] <Krinkle>	I'll add to my list for today/tomorrow
[23:31:59] <sumanah>	thank you Krinkle!  I appreciate it.  If there is some way I can do you a favor in return next week, please let me know
[23:32:15] <sumanah>	Krinkle: varnent and I, as you know, are working towards improving awareness of RL
[23:32:22] <sumanah>	so we hope that helps you also :)
[23:33:13] <sumanah>	Reedy: and then once Krinkle has made those fixes, I'll ask you for a deploy.
[23:33:46] <sumanah>	Reedy: is it possible to deploy now the changes that Max and I have made to ApiSandbox, the improvements that add the Examples button and more explanatory text at the top of the page?
[23:34:47] <sumanah>	Reedy: that way those improvements will be live in time for the hackathon even if (God forbid) Krinkle runs out of time on his bit.
[23:36:48] <Krinkle>	sumanah: So just to make sure everything is in sync, what you and varnent doing or planning to raise awareness ?
[23:37:44] <sumanah>	Krinkle: we are working towards scheduling an IRC workshop sometime like Feb 3 or 6 so that developers can learn about RL & RL2 and how to make use of them.
[23:38:07] <Krinkle>	ok
[23:38:17] <sumanah>	Krinkle: along with that, hexmode is working to get a couple people to beta test the migration guide as it exists, to provide feedback to improve it.
[23:38:32] <Krinkle>	great
[23:38:45] <sumanah>	Krinkle: if RL comes up this weekend at the SF hackathon, I hope we take notes towards tutorials or other resources.
[23:38:50] <sumanah>	to improve what exists.
[23:39:03] <Krinkle>	Do you know if there is any schedule in place for final wmf deployment ?
[23:39:08] <Krinkle>	like what are we aiming for
[23:39:22] <sumanah>	Krinkle: and Gadgets will be a focus at this hackathon and at the Pune hackathon in February.  So RL will probably come up in the trainings and discussions
[23:39:32] <Krinkle>	robla:
[23:39:37] <sumanah>	Krinkle: is there anything on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap?
[23:39:39] <sumanah>	https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap
[23:40:01] <sumanah>	Krinkle: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap#Platform_.2F_Dev-Ops_2 has it in February
[23:40:05] <Krinkle>	hm..
[23:40:06] <Krinkle>	ok
[23:40:20] <sumanah>	Krinkle: but I do not know what the TODOs are that are left to do
[23:40:22] <sumanah>	Krinkle: do you?
[23:40:30] <robla>	Krinkle: the main feature for 1.19 is the FileBackend stuff, so that we can move forward with Swift
[23:40:31] <sumanah>	Roan is on a plane right now so he can't answer.
[23:41:03] <robla>	from a schedule perspective, it's "ASAP", gated by code review right now
[23:42:16] <robla>	as soon as we have a fully reviewed trunk, we branch, deploy to test2, and then a similar timetable to 1.18 for the remaining wikis