[01:52:38] Hi, anyone actually here? [01:53:03] Hi, I've not got SVN or anything and I'd like a trivial change. Is there a place to request that or is someone here who could do it? [01:53:23] Renate: what do you need? [01:53:54] We use Google kmz on our site mime.types gets bashed with upgrades. [01:54:11] Could you make -> application/zip zip jar kmz xpi sxc stc sxd std sxi sti sxm stm sxw stw [01:54:24] in includes/mime.types [01:54:42] It's just adding kmz (see Google Maps, Earth, etc) [01:54:54] It's zipped XML and icons and things. [01:54:59] Renate: there is a global for that [01:55:04] *Betacommand goes to find it [01:55:47] Well, you've got a zillion mime types in the file already, what's wrong with throwing in kmz? There is a separate blacklist for application/zip [01:56:22] Renate: I dont have svn access and Im looking for a quick solution for you [01:56:35] !wgFileExtensions [01:56:35] --elephant-- I don't know anything about "wgfileextensions". [01:56:42] !wg FileExtensions [01:56:42] --elephant-- I don't know anything about "wg". [01:56:54] !help [01:56:54] --elephant-- Hi! I'm mwbot, a bot that was quickly whipped up by Daniel Cannon (AmiDaniel) to help out around #mediawiki. There's not much documentation on me, but you can find all my source code at http://amidaniel.com/viewvc/trunk/MWBot/?root=svn [01:57:16] it's using a different database to mw-dbot [01:57:18] *mw-bot [01:57:21] Well, the quick solution if for me to edit mime.types I do that on my personal wiki, but this is a separate wiki admined by somebody who isn't too responsive, every upgrade we lose stuff. [01:58:23] Renate: what Im looking into is a localsettings.php change [01:59:05] WOuldn't it be useful to have it actually set in the mime.types. There's tons of cruft in there that nobody uses. [01:59:32] We probably only use about 5 types ourselves. [02:00:06] Reedy: could you add that mime type? [02:03:36] Well, somebody added a mime here, I don't know if requests go somewhere: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikia_code/includes/mime.types [02:04:58] That's a diff of what Wikia have changed in their version [02:05:17] I guess I just put a request in Bugzilla then. [02:05:27] <^demon> zip. whee. [02:06:06] Oops, there's already a bug report on it: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26059 [02:07:08] That's KML, I don't know about kmz. [02:15:08] I just commented on that bug. Refresh to see. [02:17:58] Ok, bedtime for me, good night! [21:06:47] RoanKattouw: when using mergeMessageFileList.php, is it possible to specify multiple wikis? or do i need to run it once for each wiki i care about? [21:07:16] Once for each MW version [21:07:24] But scap takes care of that [21:07:30] oh! [21:07:35] fancy [21:07:49] The output file is shared between all wikis with the same MW version, it's a het deploy thing [21:07:49] Ryan_Lane: thank you for the blog post [21:12:27] yay....this is the first time I think I've ever seen "svn diff" come back completely clean in fenari:/home/w/common/php-1.18 [21:12:38] yay [21:13:49] yay! [21:20:00] \0/ [21:59:06] RoanKattouw: so regarding presentation at WCN [21:59:23] according to siebrand English presence is not expected to be significant [21:59:26] OK [21:59:27] <5% [21:59:29] if any [21:59:29] Right [22:00:23] what was the time slot again, 20 minutes ? [22:00:35] *RoanKattouw looks [22:01:03] 11:20-11:$5 [22:01:08] *45 [22:01:13] ookay [22:01:16] No [22:01:18] 25-45 [22:01:19] So 20 mins [22:01:26] The design of the schedule is somewhat confusing [22:01:40] http://www.wikimediaconferentie.nl/programma/ ? [22:01:48] Yes [22:01:51] Oh, there's headers [22:01:59] The start time is on the left and the end time is on the right [22:02:01] hm.. [22:02:05] it is ? [22:02:09] Makes sense when you think about it but I didn't quite get it at first [22:02:22] I'd think it's 11:25 -12:00 [22:02:31] Headers at the top: "begintijd" , "eindtijd" [22:02:35] ah [22:02:37] right, break time [22:02:48] The first slot is 11:00-11:20, ours is 11:25-11:45 [22:02:50] 45-00 break [22:03:06] ok [22:03:28] so our audience is probably less developerish then we had at wikimania, right ? [22:03:33] Yes [22:03:40] Assume few to no devs in the audience [22:03:44] yeah [22:03:46] Well, no is unfair [22:03:48] Few [22:03:59] But you know the semi-technical wikignome type, right? :) [22:04:08] yes, very well [22:04:56] I'm expecting that'll be our target [22:05:06] The kind of people that work on templates and gadgets [22:05:08] so I think we should target between 'experienced editor using gadgets in prefs' until 'moderate scripter / wiki user maintaining gadgets on one or more wikis' [22:05:11] (Gadgets, especially, of course) [22:05:22] Yeah [22:05:28] There are multiple aspects of course [22:05:47] If you list the big improvements brought by RL2 [22:06:06] Part of it is for Gadget users (consumers), part of it for authors, and part for maintainers [22:06:16] Yeah [22:06:35] I think most of our aspects cover more of those parts though [22:06:44] like localization and repository [22:06:47] So I was thinking the setup of the talk could be that we talk about each of those three vantage points in turn [22:06:49] Right [22:07:02] Probably need to start with a general overview, a slide or two with diagras [22:07:05] *diagrams [22:07:10] To illustrate the concept of shared gadgets [22:07:27] And the Bright New Future in which most gadgets live on mw.org [22:07:27] getting i18n and gadgets from mw.org / "having" to use mw.msg / NS_MEDIAWIKi and getting added to mw.org [22:07:34] Could have a now vs future slide I guess [22:07:35] user / devb [22:09:41] Perhaps touch a bit on the fact that there there are standardized mediawiki.* modules that are automatically kept working with new version and make things easier (i.e. mw.config, mw.Titlte, mw.wikiGetUrl ) and mention jQuery being loaded on all pages (I guess this may still be new to some people) [22:09:57] Right [22:10:22] I was thinking the slide deck could mostly consist of screenshots [22:10:46] If you want I can work up a first draft in Google Docs Presenter tomorrow and we can work on it together when you get home [22:10:50] yep, just screenshots, annotations and a few diagrams. All focused on front-end / UX [22:11:11] Unless you feel like staying up until 2:30am to work on this. But I am definitely not doing that tonight [22:11:22] not me, gotta get up early tomorrow [22:12:32] BTW, did you see my fieldsets change? [22:12:42] I also wrote ForeignAPIGadgetRepo today [22:12:55] But I haven't tried to test it or even run it yet, saving that for tomorrow [22:12:55] I saw the commit, haven't executed it yet on my localhoist [22:13:05] I sent you a link to a screenshot earlier [22:13:09] yep [22:13:14] looks good on first sight [22:13:19] Gallery of screenshots rather [22:13:36] It's exactly the same as all the other prefs, uses the same HTMLForm bits [22:13:52] I just had to hack the fieldset labels not to use wfMsg( "pref-$categoryName" ) [22:22:51] sumanah: which one? about home directories? [22:23:26] Ryan_Lane: yes [22:23:42] ah. I try to write technical posts like that fairly often [22:24:08] haven't been doing them as often as I prefer to, though ;) [22:34:17] Ryan_Lane: I'm happy you found the time to write this one, then. [22:34:50] I have another one written too :) [22:34:57] Ryan_Lane: similarly I am glad Rob made time to write the analytics post that just went up [22:35:10] it's less technical, but it's about the process I use to puppetize services [22:35:53] cool! [22:36:14] I usually try to wait a day or two between posts :) [22:36:23] reasonable :-) [22:36:32] otherwise I'd post like 3 things in one day, then post nothing for a monthj [22:37:19] whee! [22:37:22] Ryan_Lane: my partner just wrote some software to autopost some tweets at various intervals (for the Twitter feeds that go along with his novel as it's serialized) [22:37:28] the drive on this laptop is dying. [22:37:30] Ryan_Lane: somewhat relatedly [22:37:35] yeah [22:37:52] I wish wordpress would let me specify a time to tweet out the post [22:38:06] mayhap there is a plugin? [22:38:08] anyway. [22:38:09] I like to post the blog entries first thing in the morning, and then tweet it later [22:44:10] Ryan_Lane: why not right away ? making modifications ? [22:44:19] on the post? [22:44:23] yes [22:44:38] I don't like to release a bunch of posts and then be silent for a long period of time [22:44:46] I try to space them out some. [22:45:39] ah, so the blog posts are published in a bunch but the tweets at intervals later [22:46:06] well, that's what I'd like [22:46:09] but it doesn't work that way [22:46:36] I like to have the blog post out in the early morning, so that its in people's readers, then send a tweet later, when they are more likely looking at twitter [22:46:46] it's a timing thing. [22:47:02] Ryan_Lane: do you happen to know about how many readers you have (via GReader or something like that)? And is your blog syndicated on any planets? [22:47:26] it's on openstack planet, open wiki blog planet, and planet wikimedia [22:47:47] oh duh [22:47:50] I have about 100 subscribers [22:47:51] that last one is how I read it [22:47:54] via reader [22:48:06] well, via feedburner anyway [22:48:47] my views per day range between 150 and 800, depending on what I post [23:39:48] ^demon|away: will you be available for the commit access queue review meeting in 5 minutes?