[07:29:05] <hashar>	hello
[12:22:40] <hashar>	it is all so quiet
[18:45:03] <JeroenDeDauw>	alolita: feature meeting still going on?
[18:45:13] <JeroenDeDauw>	Etherpad doesn't work for me
[18:45:18] <sumanah>	:(
[18:45:30] <sumanah>	JeroenDeDauw: I have put in an rt ticket asking ops to upgrade etherpad
[18:45:52] <JeroenDeDauw>	sumanah: rt?
[18:46:05] <sumanah>	JeroenDeDauw: RT, the way the operations team systematically deals with requests
[18:46:14] <Reedy>	sumanah, I think I had one before
[18:46:18] <JeroenDeDauw>	What does it stand for?
[18:46:18] <Reedy>	There is nothing to upgrade to
[18:46:24] <sumanah>	JeroenDeDauw: so if you want improvements in Etherpad, ask them to switch to Etherpad Lite
[18:46:25] <Reedy>	request tracker
[18:46:31] <sumanah>	which is the one that's maintained
[18:46:42] <sumanah>	Erik Moller said so, although I haven't looked into it
[18:47:23] <JeroenDeDauw>	Right - well, I can't join the meeting then
[18:53:16] <Krinkle>	Reedy: Hm.. can you help me out on prototype ? Got a weird error when trying to do 'svn st' or 'svn up'
[18:53:29] <Krinkle>	svn: Can't convert string from native encoding to 'UTF-8':
[18:53:30] <Krinkle>	svn: messages-rc_arwiki-en?\216?\167?\217?\132?\216?\181?\217?\129?\216?\173?\216?\169_?\216?\167?\217?\132?\216?\177?\216?\166?\217?\138?\216?\179?\217?\138?\216?\169
[18:54:10] <Reedy>	what path/
[18:54:12] <Krinkle>	krinkle@prototype:/srv/org/wikimedia/prototype/wikis/rc$ sudo svn st
[18:55:11] <Krinkle>	that's all it says
[18:56:11] <Krinkle>	http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/tmp/20111017-prototypebug.txt
[18:57:12] <Reedy>	works fine for me
[18:57:22] <Krinkle>	environment?
[18:57:30] <Reedy>	putty on windows
[18:59:08] <Krinkle>	googling the error tells me I need to do `export LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8` in my shell.
[18:59:11] <Krinkle>	I did but no luck
[19:00:12] <Reedy>	mines set to ''
[19:00:34] <Krinkle>	what's that fine anyway ?
[19:00:40] <Krinkle>	Can you nuke it ? it doesn't belong there does it ?
[19:00:45] <Krinkle>	fine*file
[19:01:12] <Reedy>	svn up/svn status works fine ofr me
[19:04:08] <Krinkle>	Reedy: setting LC_ALL fixed it
[19:51:26] <awjr>	is it safe to run the createAndPromote maint script on the cluster to create a user on a new wiki?
[19:52:24] <Krinkle-away>	awjr: I'd say create a new user the 'normal' way and promote via staff
[19:52:33] <Krinkle-away>	assuming you have that global right
[19:53:21] <awjr>	Krinkle: this is for a new wiki that was just created and i believe no users have been set up for it
[19:53:41] <Krinkle>	It's part of the cluster ?
[19:53:51] <Krinkle>	Then staff/steward/global sysop etc. works there
[19:53:51] <awjr>	yeah
[19:53:55] <awjr>	oo
[19:54:52] <Krinkle>	if it's for yourself only you probably won't even need an account, just login with your global account
[19:55:36] <awjr>	awesome i didnt realize that
[19:55:37] <awjr>	fancy
[19:56:09] <awjr>	thanks Krinkle
[19:56:26] <Krinkle>	you're welcome
[19:58:23] <awjr>	ah Krinkle that did not work, likely because this wiki is locked down
[19:58:51] <Krinkle>	right
[19:58:56] <Krinkle>	fishbowl ?
[19:59:15] <awjr>	yeah
[20:00:13] <awjr>	Krinkle: in this case, any ideas on how to get a user set up
[20:00:40] <Reedy>	Either get someone on the wiki to do it... or createAndPromote..
[20:01:22] <awjr>	ok createAndPromote it is since thre's no one on the wiki :p
[20:01:34] <awjr>	any gotchas with createAndPromote on the clusteR?
[20:01:44] <Reedy>	shouldn't be
[20:01:53] <Reedy>	mwscript createAndPromote.php --wiki=foowiki....
[20:02:01] <awjr>	k and running maint script on cluster you append --wiki=wikiname?
[20:02:02] <awjr>	ah
[20:02:03] <awjr>	yes
[20:02:14] <awjr>	mwscript is run from within the maint dir?
[20:02:39] <awjr>	or doesn't matter?
[20:03:06] *Krinkle 	thinks this should be documented on wikitech
[20:03:39] <awjr>	agreed
[20:04:03] <awjr>	should be added to http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Category:How-To
[20:04:21] <Reedy>	it's in /h/w/bin so it's everywhere
[20:05:30] <Krinkle>	awjr: When you figured it out: http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/How_to_run_a_maintenance_script
[20:05:34] <Krinkle>	:)
[20:05:36] <awjr>	awesome thanks Reedy
[20:05:42] <awjr>	hahaaha Krinkle i was just creating that page :p
[20:06:02] <Krinkle>	awesome
[20:06:03] <Reedy>	http://wikitech.wikimedia.org/view/Hetdeploy#Run_a_maintenance_script_on_a_wiki
[20:07:19] <awjr>	Reedy:
[20:07:33] <awjr>	just 'mwscript extensions/MyExtension/maintenance/scriptname.php dbname' instead of --wiki=wikiname?
[20:07:51] <Reedy>	It might work without, but it does work with
[20:08:00] <Reedy>	ie mwscript eval.php --wiki=commonswiki
[20:09:33] <awjr>	great thnx
[20:20:49] <Platonides>	didn't you need to pass a dummy db for --wiki ?
[20:23:02] <Reedy>	what's the point of doing that when he wants ot create a wiki on said wiki? :/
[20:27:13] <Krinkle>	alolita: Regarding installing feedback dashboard on prototype.. I received an e-mail halfway the meeting from Dario on wmfall-l with a link to prototype showing feedback dashboard. Is there anything related to feedback you want me to do still?
[20:27:31] <Krinkle>	seems to be installed already.
[20:27:54] <Krinkle>	I pushed svn head to prototype but didn't do anything, was already at the latest svn revision.
[20:28:28] <Krinkle>	(not wmfall-l, it was an internal mail)
[20:29:07] <Krinkle>	Reedy: subwikis ?
[20:29:13] <Reedy>	?
[20:29:34] <Krinkle>	" create a wiki on [wiki]"
[20:29:43] <Reedy>	?
[20:29:50] <Krinkle>	;-)
[20:30:03] <Krinkle>	you said that
[20:30:09] <Reedy>	oh
[20:30:10] <Reedy>	hah
[23:52:05] <hexmode>	bleh
[23:52:18] <hexmode>	still not home after 14 hours of travel