[10:59:30] TimStarling, how did the deployment last night go? I see a few revisions tidying things up etc [10:59:48] yeah, there were a few bugs [11:00:13] LQT was totally broken, Aaron just reverted it to the version in 1.17wmf1 [11:00:20] Which is apparently also broken [11:00:29] missing dependancies in phase3 [13:05:38] So, how was the 1.18 deployment last night? [13:05:58] I saw a lot of firefighting in the SAL [13:07:00] Not too bad [13:07:13] REL1_18 schema updates needed for LQT [13:07:28] but then aaron reverted to 1.17wmf1's (which is 1.16wmf4's one), which doesn't work due to a lack of edit.js [13:07:56] so i've fixed the actual bad schema patch, so waiting on asher to see if we can arrange fixing it [13:08:37] Oh, the schema changes for LQT didn't match what was needed? [13:09:23] we didn't have any schema changes [13:09:31] the actual updates were done in sept 2010 [13:09:37] so that's even pre 1.17 branchpoint [13:09:46] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/97811 [13:10:00] Then the patch was creating an index, to then drop it in the next statement [13:10:15] lolo [13:11:34] Between tim and aaron, i believe the rest of the outstanding issues have been dealt with [13:12:31] Funnily enough I was awake for most of it [13:12:35] The deployment was 1-5am [13:12:40] I was at a party until 2:30 or thereabouts [13:13:02] 1 change to RL was made to fix the resources issue [13:13:08] *RoanKattouw doesn't do the party-until-3-then-crash-on-a-friend's-couch thing very often, and now has heavy eyelids [13:13:10] Yeah, I saw [13:13:11] Tim reviewed it, but you might want to also verify it [13:13:18] I will probably revise that when I feel more awake [13:14:50] Hallo. [13:15:12] There are some cosmetic post-deployment RTL issues on mediawiki.org. [13:15:24] Can anyone with admin access fix them, please? [13:15:31] You need an mw.org sysop? [13:15:40] Just say what you need done and one of us will do it [13:15:47] Yeah. [13:15:48] Alternatively, I can /give/ you +sysop on mw.org [13:15:59] That would be nice :) [13:16:04] The process for that consists of two devs saying yes, basically [13:16:27] Basically, many of the .rtl sections in Common.css aren't needed anymore. [13:16:40] What's your username? [13:16:44] amire80 [13:16:51] Reedy: You don't mind me giving Amir +sysop on mw.org do you? [13:17:06] Nope.. [13:17:26] We have consensus! [13:17:38] aharoni: You are now a sysop [13:17:49] :) cool, thanks. [13:18:01] haha [14:50:10] anyone here who knows why http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions isn't working? [14:52:01] where is wikimedia 404 located in svn now? the old path no longer works and i don't see any readme or revision comment saying where it moved :-/ [14:52:27] axpde: seems like it works to me: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/test/wiki/Special:Contributions/Olaf [14:52:43] axpde: can you show an example of it not working? [14:52:47] http://test.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Walter doesn't work [14:53:47] axpde: ah, I see! you actively get an ERROR page, right? [14:54:03] PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.18/includes/Linker.php line 831: [14:54:03] Argument 1 passed to Linker::makeMediaLinkObj() must be an instance of Title, null given, called in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.18/includes/Linker.php on line 1221 and defined [14:54:09] axpde: is that what you see? [14:54:23] yep [14:54:29] axpde: "If you report this error to the Wikimedia System Administrators, please include the details below." [14:54:32] that would have helped :) [14:54:42] specificity is always better than "isn't working" [14:54:44] that's why I asked ... [14:55:23] didn't whether there's someone here knowing what to do with this error ... [14:55:33] axpde: so, for future reference, instead of saying "isn't working," you would say "I see this error" and give the text of it [14:55:46] ok ;-) [14:56:11] axpde: I think this might be related to the deployment that's doing on right now: http://blog.wikimedia.org/2011/09/16/mediawiki118iscomin/ [14:56:57] test.wiki already uses 1.18 [14:58:05] Reedy, thoughts? ^ [14:58:34] reedy said s/t on #wikimedia-tech [14:58:48] yeah [15:12:23] Fixeded [15:12:54] :) [15:13:04] http://irhal.com/Irhal-Travel-News/Airline/Airbus-displays-latest-VVIP-charter.html <- Want [15:19:33] *axpde me 2! [15:24:45] molliug: that was weird... sorry got disconnected [17:26:49] Reedy: My God, that's a sweet interior. I would happily fly long distances with that even if it means 2 refueling stops because it's a damn A318 :D [17:36:10] BA fly an A318 out of london city to new york [17:36:18] via Shannon on the way out for a fuelling stop [17:36:44] Aye [17:36:47] BA1/2 [17:37:30] That flight is all business class [17:37:40] I learned about another ridiculous all-business flight recently [17:37:51] Singapore Airlines converted a few of their A340s to all-business [17:38:06] So they now have 2 or 3 all-business flights EWR-SIN and LAX-SIN per week [17:38:29] The EWR-SIN flight flies over the North Pole [17:39:16] 100 business class seats, and I think it's the only non-stop flight between Singapore and the NYC area. The JFK-SIN flight has a stop in FRA [17:39:24] RoanKattouw: so I just read REAMDE, which spends entirely too long talking about air travel & great circle routes [17:39:35] haha [17:39:38] reading you on IRC it is as though the novel is not over yet [17:39:42] *RoanKattouw loves great circle routes and jetstreams [17:39:50] I read your blog a few hours ago [17:39:51] RoanKattouw, this novel may be for you [17:40:06] Noticed you were not satisfied with REAMDE (what kind of title is that, anyway? I keep reading it as README) [17:40:21] RoanKattouw: the title does make sense in the novel [18:00:09] Noticed you were not satisfied with REAMDE (what kind of title is that, anyway? I keep reading it as README) < I've been reading it as README (and not noticing) since sumanah started to talk about it [18:01:00] molliug: I bet thousands of people around the world have completely missed that it is REAMDE [18:01:15] and just transposed it automatically [18:01:24] The human brain does that. [18:01:27] yep [18:02:01] molliug: try http://www.crummy.com/software/eater/ specifically the various advanced modes in http://www.crummy.com/software/eater/eater.cgi [18:02:29] molliug: example: http://www.crummy.com/software/eater/eater.cgi/?url-EoM=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mediawiki.org&eat-EoM=sort [18:03:43] AAAH my head! [18:06:38] Ryan_Lane: the Tulane LUG seems not to exist anymore. Agreed? I ask because that would relieve me of the responsibility of trying to reach out to it [18:09:44] sumanah: Hey BTW just now the WMNL admin person asked me to speak about WMF architecture at a LUG meet-up in NL [18:10:07] neat, RoanKattouw! when will that be? [18:10:45] She said the meetings were 10/1, 12/3, 2/18 and 4/9 [18:11:11] The latter two are in 2012 so those are no good. I suggested 12/3 would be best because 10/1 is very soon and I won't have the car then [18:11:37] RoanKattouw: ah, is it a bit far from where you live? [18:11:47] It's near the WMNL office [18:11:50] I can train there if Iw ant [18:12:04] But that's slower [18:12:13] I guess on Saturday it might not necessarily be more expensive [18:13:11] Still though 10/1 is bad for other reasons [18:13:22] So I suggested 12/3, let's see what she says [18:14:36] sumanah: dunno. I don't know much about then [18:14:38] *them [18:14:43] got it, Ryan_Lane [18:18:47] RoanKattouw: well, once you know, send a note to wikitech-l or something? and would you be speaking in English, Dutch, or other? [18:19:00] Depending on the crowd [18:19:14] If there's someone in the audience who doesn't understand Dutch, I'll switch to English [18:19:28] But I don't really expect such people at an Utrecht LUG meetup [18:19:41] And yes, I will send a note to wikitech, good point [18:21:42] biab [18:24:54] Reedy: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/31087 is deployed? [18:27:26] Nope [18:27:38] Need ops to do some schema changes, then push out the newer code [19:41:33] tfinc: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/EngineeringRoadmap [19:42:04] ^demon: RT ticket # to give you sudo? [19:42:58] <^demon> http://rt.wikimedia.org/Ticket/Display.html?id=1159 - but per mark's last comment we should just get it in puppet and not give me sudo [19:43:01] <^demon> Which is fair enough. [19:49:03] k.... :) [23:03:42] hexmode: did you write back to EO Suzuki? [23:04:32] sumanah: I will right now [23:05:56] sumanah: I'll me watching the NOLA hackathon page. Excited to see regional work being done there ;) [23:06:58] hexmode: I'm going to be especially glad to see Markus Glaser again, and to meet Salvatore and to meet Max [23:07:30] *hexmode now goes to look for email to respond to [23:07:40] I realised I've known MaxSem like 5 years now... [23:13:49] Reedy: ever met him? [23:13:54] nope [23:14:50] First time I can recall him being out of russia [23:39:30] hexmode: did you cc me on your email to EO Suzuki?