[15:59:55] <sumanah>	hi robla, ready when you are
[16:01:25] <apergos>	ah, robla, the answer is there is still no plugin, those guys over at pidgin dev are in complete denial, it's pretty irritating
[17:47:05] <preilly>	jorm: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=30932
[18:49:42] <kaldari>	Is there some security feature that prevents MediaWiki Special Pages from loading within iframes?
[18:55:39] <saper>	how would that be? you could only force it to load in the _top frame using javascript and I don't think there is anything like that
[18:59:04] <kaldari>	saper: Whenever I try to include any Special page in an iframe the server response is null
[18:59:16] <kaldari>	but any other pages work fine
[18:59:25] <K4-713>	Yeah: Just nothing at all.
[19:00:51] <kaldari>	I get a 200 OK message, but no content in the response
[19:01:11] <kaldari>	maybe it's some kind of security feature?
[19:01:27] <kaldari>	Reedy: ^
[19:01:53] <Reedy>	I know 1.16.1 had some sort of frame related fix
[19:02:12] <Reedy>	for clickjacking
[19:02:21] <Reedy>	"Our fix involves denying framing on all pages except normal page views
[19:02:21] <Reedy>	and a few selected special pages. To be protected, all users need to
[19:02:22] <Reedy>	use a browser which supports X-Frame-Options. For information about
[19:02:22] <Reedy>	supported browsers, see:"
[19:02:33] <Reedy>	I'm guessing that's it
[19:02:46] <Reedy>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/79561
[19:03:01] <Reedy>	kaldari, try $wgOut->allowClickjacking();
[19:03:15] <kaldari>	Reedy: We may need a workaround for using GlobalCollect for our fundarising
[19:03:19] <kaldari>	cool
[19:03:23] <kaldari>	we'll try that
[19:04:26] <K4-713>	DAH! That was it.
[19:04:29] <K4-713>	Thanks guys. :)
[19:05:20] <kaldari>	Reedy: Maybe it should at least output an error in those cases :P
[19:05:53] <Reedy>	heh
[19:07:06] <hexmode>	alright, last run
[19:07:33] <Reedy>	kaldari, log it as a bug, note where it came from etc (so others don't have to look it up)
[19:07:37] <hexmode>	can I get some reviewers to look at these revs?http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_roadmap/1.18/Revision_report
[19:07:45] <hexmode>	Reedy: ?
[19:07:52] <Reedy>	But I'd agree, giving something even if "Clickjacking prevention stops you doing this"
[19:09:15] <hexmode>	robla: anyone in the office who can do reviews?
[19:10:07] <Reedy>	I can when I get out of this meeting
[19:10:31] <hexmode>	Reedy++
[19:10:36] <Reedy>	Anything unfrontendy :P
[19:10:45] <robla>	hexmode: start untagging things 1.18
[19:10:54] <hexmode>	looks like I'm gonna have to take on Brion's commit
[19:10:57] <robla>	unless it's an emergency, it shouldn't be on the list
[19:11:07] <hexmode>	robla: ty good point
[19:11:30] <robla>	I'm not sure why 97300 is on there, for example
[19:11:46] <robla>	"it isn't that much work" isn't a reason
[19:11:46] <hexmode>	yep, just looking at it
[19:12:15] <hexmode>	oh, this is a bug that was filed today
[19:12:19] <robla>	we can backport some of this stuff after
[19:12:19] <hexmode>	so, yeah, out
[19:14:19] <Reedy>	kaldari, want me to log a bug about making it slightly more explicit that something has been denied?
[19:14:34] <robla>	hexmode: I seem to recall that we have a tag for 1.18post deploy stuff
[19:15:02] <kaldari>	I'll do it. Thanks though. Also adding documentation to Manual:Special_pages :)
[19:15:04] <hexmode>	right
[19:15:13] <Reedy>	Ah great :)
[19:15:15] <robla>	heading out for lunch now
[19:16:56] <hexmode>	no post1.18, but there is a post1.17
[19:17:08] <hexmode>	tagging first rev post1.18 ;)
[20:08:34] <sumanah>	neilk_: I want to finish up and post a Google Summer of Code wrapup post today, but Kevin hasn't gotten back to me.  Do you have time to give me, like, 2 sentences on what's left to do on his project?
[20:08:56] <neilk_>	sumanah: sure, ttyl though -- in an interview
[20:09:01] <neilk_>	send me an email
[20:09:02] <sumanah>	thanks neilk_ ok
[20:09:03] <sumanah>	will do
[20:38:42] <hexmode>	robla: is Trevor around?
[20:39:30] <hexmode>	alolita1: ping?
[20:39:44] <alolita1>	hexmode: hi
[20:39:47] <alolita1>	what's up
[20:40:07] <hexmode>	alolita1: is Trevor around?
[20:40:14] <alolita1>	he was earlier
[20:40:22] <alolita1>	i have not seen him after lunch
[20:40:24] <hexmode>	hrm
[20:40:41] <alolita1>	he should be back soon; is this rel 1.18 related
[20:40:46] <hexmode>	k, if you see him could you ask him to ping me?
[20:40:47] <hexmode>	yes
[20:40:54] <hexmode>	one revision for him to review
[20:41:05] <alolita1>	k - i will definitely ask him to complete pending reviews
[20:41:13] <alolita1>	and will ask him to touch base with you
[20:41:20] <hexmode>	ty
[20:41:22] <hexmode>	:)
[20:42:04] <robla>	hexmode: I talked to him earlier...he's on it
[20:43:12] <hexmode>	robla: k
[20:43:34] <hexmode>	robla: I'm looking at the other one
[20:45:57] <robla>	oh sweet, looks like??Thelema314??reviewed the ocaml one
[20:47:05] <^demon>	I've been trying to review r97034 for most of today :p
[20:47:13] <^demon>	Sadly, I'm having issues getting math rendering to work
[20:48:24] <sumanah>	robla: you're welcome :)
[20:48:46] <robla>	(and yes, thank you Sumana!)
[20:48:53] *sumanah 	grins wide
[20:51:17] <^demon>	r97034 is the last math-related rev.
[21:10:16] <sumanah>	robla: about to leave for the day in case you want to chat about anything
[21:10:32] <robla>	k...working out the blog post now: http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/118deployment-blog   ...I'm inserting bits about volutneer coordination
[21:10:45] <robla>	err....just getting volunteers to help with testing and bug reporting
[21:10:49] <Reedy>	4pm PST == midnight for me
[21:11:19] <Reedy>	So I'll look at branching earlier in my day, gives the weekend for things to settle down
[21:11:58] <sumanah>	robla: ok, want me to look?
[21:12:02] <robla>	Reedy: makes sense.  you and Roan should both be on the cleanup shift rather than the actual deployment
[21:12:18] <Reedy>	sure
[21:12:18] <robla>	sumanah: if you're about to take off, I've got it, but if you've got time, sure!
[21:12:44] <Reedy>	Most likely I'll be about for some of the deployment, even if more passively
[21:16:21] <sumanah>	robla, hexmode -- if there is a sort of mega testplan for Wikimedia stuff, like "please try all these kinds of edge cases," I guess now would be a good time to point to it
[21:16:43] <sumanah>	so the test wiki / 1st stage deployment users could more productively go nuts....
[21:16:54] <robla>	yeah, I especially want to have people hit test2 next week
[21:17:12] <robla>	we don't have much in the way of test plans, but cross-browser testing is especially valuable
[21:17:41] *Reedy 	kicks etherpad
[21:17:41] <hexmode>	sumanah: so maybe people  could help by writing test plans ;)
[21:17:57] <sumanah>	hexmode: :)
[21:18:04] <sumanah>	ever see You Are Not Done Yet?
[21:18:04] <sumanah>	www.thebraidytester.com/downloads/YouAreNotDoneYet.pdf
[21:18:30] *robla 	is doing lots of wordsmithing, since Guillaume and I have very different writing styles.  He wrote the current draft, and I'll be posting it.
[21:18:38] <^demon>	sumanah: Oh I remember mentioning to you ~2 weeks ago that I have a rev I'd love for you to find a volunteer on but I never followed up on giving you the rev #.
[21:18:54] <^demon>	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/94171
[21:19:31] <hexmode>	sumanah: looks nifty
[21:19:57] <sumanah>	robla: :)  now I have to memorize your style for ghostwriting for you :D
[21:20:30] <sumanah>	^demon: so, Windows people need to test this, right? any other constraints?
[21:20:39] <^demon>	No, I fixed it for Windows.
[21:20:51] <^demon>	If you scroll down to the comments, I mentioned why my fix is insufficient.
[21:21:16] <robla>	Guillaume just has a lot more formal style.  Nothing wrong with it, but it feels ridiculous putting my name on the top of it
[21:21:19] <^demon>	It works for normal ugly urls, semi-pretty pathinfo'd urls, and rewritten urls.
[21:21:35] <^demon>	But it fails when you use the Alias directive.
[21:21:57] <^demon>	The current fix is, afaict, platform-agnostic. It's just slightly insufficient.
[21:22:02] <sumanah>	robla: the next text I write for you will be a rap
[21:22:17] <robla>	yeah, because we all know that's how I speak
[21:22:31] <robla>	yo yo yo
[21:22:40] *sumanah 	laughs aloud, possibly hurts her back
[21:22:53] <sumanah>	^demon: oh you want a volunteer to actually fix, not to test - sorry, read too fast
[21:23:21] <^demon>	Yeah, if you could find a volunteer willing to finish fixing it, that'd be great :)
[21:23:39] <^demon>	It's not a deployment blocker, but ideally I'd like to get it fixed before tar release.
[21:26:11] <sumanah>	understood
[21:27:07] *apergos 	waits to publish rob la's rap on facebook
[21:27:48] *sumanah 	rhymes "director" with "EFFector"
[21:29:28] <robla>	what rhymes with heterogenous?
[21:29:52] <^demon>	Homogenous?
[21:29:57] <^demon>	</obvious>
[21:30:21] <^demon>	Androgynous
[21:30:25] <apergos>	if tom lehrer were still around he would have a rhyme for you... and it would be funny too, bless his soul
[21:30:33] <robla>	Breader Snoj Upus
[21:30:38] <sumanah>	robla: you just nerd sniped us all
[21:30:49] <apergos>	owwowwowwwww that one hurt.
[21:41:17] <robla>	here's what we're saying about bug reporting:
[21:41:19] <robla>	To report issues in real time during the upgrade windows, [[:m:IRC|IRC]] is the best venue; please join us in #wikimedia-tech on Freenode??([http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikimedia-tech??web access]).
[21:41:19] <robla>	To provide feedback at other times, or if you don't feel comfortable using IRC, you can leave a message on the [[:m:Talk:Wikimedia maintenance notice|talk page of our announcement on meta]].?? For those of you that are more comfortable with Bugzilla and other development tools, we would love your help with confirming issues and getting appropriate issues filed in our bug tracker.
[21:42:33] <robla>	should we be more aggressive about getting people to file into Bugzilla, or does that seem about right?
[21:45:29] <^demon>	I'd mention BZ before the meta page.