[13:30:57] <guillom>	sumanah, I just got an e-mail on my personal address from a "Glass and Chemicals" company from Jaipur, India, that was starting by "Good morning Ms. Sumanah". I blame you.
[13:31:23] <sumanah>	guillom: OMG I got that email on my personal address too!  Can I blame all of Jaipur?
[13:31:47] <guillom>	Works for me.
[13:31:48] <sumanah>	guillom: I was going to fwd it into otrs
[13:32:52] <guillom>	Not sure it's worth it.
[13:33:08] <guillom>	Ah, I hadn't even seen the link with WP.
[13:33:10] <guillom>	Oh, well.
[13:33:26] <^demon|away>	I wonder if this company can help us like those electronics companies in China who want to sell us crap.
[13:34:04] <^demon|away>	(Seriously: who buys misc. electronic equipment over anonymous e-mail from China?)
[13:41:21] <guillom>	sumanah, so, if Claudia isn't joining, do we still use skype? SIP?
[13:41:33] <guillom>	Pigeons?
[13:41:36] <sumanah>	guillom: I just emailed -- SIP, I think, is easiest
[13:41:44] <guillom>	Ah, ok.
[13:42:51] <sumanah>	guillom: hm, my email to Siebrand bounced. That seems strange
[13:43:52] <guillom>	And he doesn't seem to be on IRC.
[13:45:13] *sumanah 	emails his other address
[14:36:37] <sumanah>	hexmode: we're gonna start without you in moments
[15:05:49] <sumanah>	hexmode: tell me whenever you want to talk about priorities for the week
[15:06:53] <hexmode>	sumanah: now?
[15:07:09] <sumanah>	hexmode: ok!
[15:07:14] <sumanah>	SIP, phone or IRC?
[15:07:28] <hexmode>	what's your extension again?
[15:18:47] <sumanah>	oh right, tomorrow's triage is IRC
[15:18:53] <sumanah>	so I won't actually "talk to you again tomorrow"
[15:19:02] <sumanah>	hexmode: so never mind that
[15:47:28] <sumanah>	hexmode: I have now contacted the "I'm interested in contributing to MediaWiki" folks on OpenHatch http://openhatch.org/+projects/MediaWiki to tell them about the bug triage tomorrow and ask them to come.
[15:47:47] <hexmode>	:)
[17:43:34] <Krinkle>	http://i.imgur.com/HHbGW.png
[17:48:14] <Reedy>	You broke it.
[17:49:45] <Krinkle>	I hadn't noticed ;-()
[18:30:41] <Krinkle>	etherpad 500 Service Temporarily Unavailable
[18:30:50] <guillom>	yeah
[18:30:53] <guillom>	it was restarted
[18:30:57] <guillom>	coming back up
[18:31:04] <guillom>	(supposedly)
[18:31:10] <Krinkle>	back up
[18:46:28] <kaldari>	Question about the parser tests:
[18:47:38] <kaldari>	I broke a parser test, and then updated the test to not be broken (since how I broke it doesn't actually have to do with parsing). I checked in the change (r91430), but the parser test still reports as filing in phpUnderControl.
[18:47:59] <kaldari>	Is there something else I need to do to get the change to the parser test to go into effect for phpUnderControl?
[18:48:18] <kaldari>	filing=failing
[18:48:46] <RoanKattouw>	!r 91430
[18:48:46] --elephant--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/91430
[18:48:57] <Krinkle>	!cc
[18:48:57] --elephant--	I don't know anything about "cc".
[18:48:58] <RoanKattouw>	Did you mean CruiseControl?
[18:49:09] <Krinkle>	that runs in phpUnderControl
[18:49:12] <RoanKattouw>	Ah
[18:49:14] <kaldari>	oops, wrong rev
[18:49:33] <kaldari>	oh, actually right rev :)
[18:49:43] <kaldari>	yeah, cruisecontrol
[18:50:18] <Krinkle>	kaldari: Did cruisecontrol finish it's run after that ? ie. is it failing after that rev or perhaps it's old data/status ?
[18:50:32] <kaldari>	The broken parser test is listed as #8 under citeparsertest on http://ci.tesla.usability.wikimedia.org/cruisecontrol/buildresults/mw?tab=testResults
[18:50:34] *Krinkle 	would love for cruisecontrol to remember revision numbers..
[18:51:00] <kaldari>	Krinkle: I'm not sure, how do I tell?
[18:51:47] <Krinkle>	kaldari: Did you click the "Failure > " link to the right of it ?
[18:51:59] <Krinkle>	it's easy to miss the link
[18:52:11] <kaldari>	yeah
[18:52:18] <kaldari>	that shows the diff for the failure
[18:52:29] <kaldari>	which isn't reflecting the rev
[18:52:49] <Krinkle>	right, so it's still running the old version
[18:53:01] <Krinkle>	--- Expected
[18:53:01] <Krinkle>	+++ Actual
[18:53:01] <Krinkle>	-			<div class="thumb" style="width: 150px;"><div style="margin:66px auto;"><a href="/wiki/File:Foobar.jpg" class="image"><img alt="Foobar.jpg" src="http://example.com/images/3/3a/Foobar.jpg" width="120" height="14" /></a></div></div>
[18:53:02] <Krinkle>	+			<div class="thumb" style="width: 150px;"><div style="margin:68px auto;"><a href="/wiki/File:Foobar.jpg" class="image"><img alt="Foobar.jpg" src="http://example.com/images/3/3a/Foobar.jpg" width="120" height="14" /></a></div></div>
[18:53:36] <kaldari>	how do you get it to run the new version?
[18:53:44] <Krinkle>	dunno
[18:54:01] <Krinkle>	looks like there may be a coicendence tho
[18:54:01] <Krinkle>	http://ci.tesla.usability.wikimedia.org/cruisecontrol/buildresults/mw?tab=buildResults
[18:54:11] <Krinkle>	PHP errors from within cruise-control it seems
[18:54:49] <neilk_>	Trevor: I don't know what your survey is, but mine was three pages
[18:55:25] <Krinkle>	kaldari: It's currently busy building/running a new run
[18:55:25] <Krinkle>	http://ci.tesla.usability.wikimedia.org/cruisecontrol/
[18:55:29] <kaldari>	ah, so it looks like it's been a day or 2 since the last successfu build
[18:55:30] <neilk_>	TrevorParscal: lots of essay questions on the first page, the next page is multiple-choice rate your skills, the last solicits ways the WMF could improve
[18:56:02] <kaldari>	I'll just be patient then :)
[18:56:34] <Krinkle>	the build started around 30 minutes ago. Seems rather long
[18:56:37] <kaldari>	I was expecting something with more instant gratification!
[18:56:41] <Krinkle>	(the local time is shown on the right)
[18:56:53] <Krinkle>	http://ci.tesla.usability.wikimedia.org/cruisecontrol/
[18:57:20] <RoanKattouw>	neilk_: I suppose if someone's really pissed at the length of this thing, they could pull a Schwarzenegger :)
[18:57:37] <Krinkle>	right, possible cause is the stack trace at http://ci.tesla.usability.wikimedia.org/cruisecontrol/buildresults/mw. RoanKattouw: Any clue from the strack trace on that link ?
[18:57:44] <Krinkle>	PHP Notice:  Unknown: Skipping numeric key 1 in Unknown on line 0
[18:58:05] <RoanKattouw>	That's the most useless error message ever
[18:58:11] <RoanKattouw>	And I'm not at all familiar with PHPUnit
[18:58:15] <Krinkle>	yeah
[18:59:00] <Krinkle>	OMG Notice: Something I don't know did something I didn't expect in a place I don't know. Can I haz... ?
[19:06:26] <kaldari>	Krinkle: Since you were nice enough to OK r91323, could you mark r91320 (which it fixes) as resolved?
[19:08:55] <sumanah>	Krinkle: hey, thank you for your help with http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Unit_testing
[19:09:16] <Krinkle>	you're welcome
[19:09:22] <Krinkle>	!r r91320
[19:09:22] --elephant--	http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/r91320
[19:09:53] <Krinkle>	kaldari: Done! I missed it since it wasn't showing up in ?status=new
[19:10:22] <kaldari>	Krinkle: Thanks!
[19:14:16] <kaldari>	We're doing a small deploy of WikiLove updates this afternoon, so any other WikiLove code reviews would be appreciated: http://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?path=%2Ftrunk%2Fextensions%2FWikiLove&title=Special%3ACode%2FMediaWiki
[19:24:57] <sumanah>	kaldari: hey, want me to write a note to the cultural-partners list re uploader?
[19:25:08] <sumanah>	(per Liam's email of 3 July)
[19:27:32] <kaldari>	sumanah: That would be awesome! Thank you!!
[19:27:43] <sumanah>	kaldari: ok
[19:27:57] <kaldari>	sumanah: Did I copy you on my email to Liam?
[19:28:35] <sumanah>	kaldari: you did, I think (the 1 July one Re: Bulk uploading tool)
[19:28:47] <kaldari>	cool
[23:03:59] <Krinkle>	Reedy: Wow, I just discovered something wonky. Took me 30 minutes to figure out.
[23:04:01] <Krinkle>	Look at http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdupont
[23:04:08] <Krinkle>	js messages broken, right ?
[23:04:11] <Krinkle>	<showtoc>
[23:04:14] <Krinkle>	(Chrome)
[23:04:30] <Reedy>	heh
[23:04:53] <Krinkle>	Turns out mw.messages.exists in 1.17 and 1.18 checks the wrong variable name, fixed in r80572.
[23:05:06] <Krinkle>	However this didn't matter in most cases
[23:05:22] <Krinkle>	in 1.17: mw.messages.exists: 		if ( typeof keys === 'object' ) {
[23:05:28] <Krinkle>	^ never turns true as there is no such variable
[23:05:29] <Krinkle>	BUT
[23:05:41] <Krinkle>	On http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mdupont there is a heading ==keys==
[23:05:51] <Krinkle>	<h2 id="keys'>
[23:06:03] <Krinkle>	In WebKit browsers elements by id are in the window/global namespace
[23:06:17] <Krinkle>	so (window.)  keys is a ref to <h2 id="keys"> :-/
[23:06:26] <Krinkle>	ie. an object, thus returns true and the function fails
[23:06:32] <Krinkle>	omg!
[23:12:03] <Krinkle>	Already fixed tho http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/80572