[16:07:18] <hexmode>	pdhanda: ping?
[16:12:13] <pdhanda>	hi hexmode
[16:12:35] <pdhanda>	let me do that import
[16:29:21] <hexmode>	pdhanda: you know if anyone else is in today?  I'm looking for neilk and tomaszf
[16:49:43] <pdhanda>	hexmode: neilk is here
[16:49:55] <pdhanda>	tomaszf usually comes in a little later
[16:50:02] <pdhanda>	let me ask neil to join the channel
[16:53:57] <hexmode>	neilk_: I think you talked to me before about this, but is there any update on this? https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/28466
[16:54:15] <neilk_>	hexmode: haven't worked on that
[16:54:22] <neilk_>	hexmode: next week perhaps
[16:54:36] <hexmode>	ok, but it is yours?
[16:54:59] <neilk_>	it's assigned to Reedy, but it was because I couldn't figure it out. Neither of us could.
[16:55:42] <neilk_>	Maybe we need to take it to someone else, but I don't know who.
[16:56:09] <hexmode>	hrm...
[16:56:14] <hexmode>	making a note of it
[16:56:16] <neilk_>	the problem if I recall correctly was not that it doesn't work, but that the code seems to be totally straightforward in it's non-workingness
[16:56:26] <neilk_>	that is, we aren't sure when or if it ever worked
[16:56:33] <neilk_>	but clearly it must have at some point
[16:56:51] <hexmode>	heh
[16:57:06] <hexmode>	ok so, I need to track down who wrote it?
[16:57:13] *hexmode 	pulls out svn annotate
[16:57:15] <neilk_>	I think it was magnus or something
[16:58:06] <hexmode>	k, can you be in the irc triage next tuesday?
[16:58:11] <neilk_>	ok
[16:58:23] <hexmode>	I'll try to make sure reedy is there, too
[16:58:38] <hexmode>	k, think that's it :)
[18:32:42] <hexmode>	binasher: got a sec?
[18:32:47] <sumanah>	Ryan_Lane: when is hack-a-ton New Orleans then?
[18:33:00] <hexmode>	mardi gras!
[18:33:03] <Ryan_Lane>	don't have a date yet
[18:33:08] <Ryan_Lane>	definitely not mardi gras :)
[18:33:20] <Ryan_Lane>	it would be insanely expensive, and would be kind of a PITA
[18:33:22] <hexmode>	or right after Jan 6
[18:33:29] <binasher>	hexmode: what's up?
[18:33:30] <sumanah>	ok. for people including Ryan_Lane -- http://opensourcebridge.org/2011/wiki/Inviting_Contributors_to_Open_Source_Webdev_through_Virtualization has slides & notes about an interesting Mozilla project that is sort of like Wikimedia Tools/Labs may be
[18:33:35] <hexmode>	so we can get king kcakes!
[18:34:08] <hexmode>	binasher: how hard would it be to get the info MZ talks about here: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/29153
[18:34:08] <Ryan_Lane>	we can get king cakes any time after kings day
[18:34:09] <hexmode>	??
[18:35:20] <Ryan_Lane>	"The season for king cake extends from the end of the Twelve Days of Christmas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelfth_Night_%28holiday%29 and Epiphany Day), through to Mardi Gras day."
[18:35:33] <hexmode>	Ryan_Lane: which is Epiphany, Jan 6 ;)
[18:35:39] <Ryan_Lane>	oh. is it?
[18:35:43] <Ryan_Lane>	heh
[18:35:48] <hexmode>	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphany_(holiday)
[18:36:31] <hexmode>	that is one darn useful website!
[18:36:47] <Ryan_Lane>	it's ok ;)
[18:36:55] <Ryan_Lane>	the quote I got from wikipedia too. heh
[18:37:00] <hexmode>	I wouldn't trust it
[18:37:23] <saper>	the season known as the carnival in other parts of the world btw :)
[18:38:04] <Ryan_Lane>	sumanah: vagrant basically does what openstack + my extension does
[18:38:12] <Ryan_Lane>	sumanah: except it does it for virtualbox
[18:38:24] <Ryan_Lane>	so it doesn't do clustering
[18:38:25] <sumanah>	Ryan_Lane: understood. (I think.)  You will eventually blogggggg I hope
[18:38:29] <saper>	https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=29564 <-- besides fixing the code and doing UPDATE in the db, I think that dump process should abort on something like this; where's the current dump code?
[18:38:34] <Ryan_Lane>	so it would be really useful for standalone stuff
[18:38:56] <Ryan_Lane>	I think it would be really great as a standalone environment for devs
[18:39:19] <Ryan_Lane>	and it shouldn't be too hard to extend what we are doing to this
[18:39:30] <Ryan_Lane>	I really need those labs hires :D
[18:39:58] <sumanah>	Ryan_Lane: I'm tryin' to recruit here!
[18:40:08] <Ryan_Lane>	that's a good idea :)
[18:40:19] <sumanah>	Ryan_Lane:  in fact I am arguably trying harder to recruit hires than I am trying to recruit MediaWiki devs
[18:40:24] <sumanah>	(at this conference right now)
[18:40:25] <Ryan_Lane>	I don't think the labs hires have been listed, but I'm sure we can work something
[18:40:32] *saper 	prefers jails/zones for this kind of vitualization
[18:40:40] <Ryan_Lane>	eh? why?
[18:40:48] <Ryan_Lane>	jails are worthless
[18:40:53] <Ryan_Lane>	zones are useful
[18:40:54] <saper>	why do I need a full system for that?
[18:41:12] <Ryan_Lane>	because zones are actually harder to use?
[18:41:27] <Ryan_Lane>	so are jails
[18:41:41] <saper>	yeah no single file to load & fire up?
[18:41:47] <Ryan_Lane>	yeah
[18:42:04] <Ryan_Lane>	virtual machines work similarly on every platform too
[18:42:06] <Ryan_Lane>	zones don't
[18:42:27] <saper>	yes
[18:42:33] <Ryan_Lane>	however...
[18:42:38] <Ryan_Lane>	zones are better for performance
[18:42:52] <saper>	looks like the goal is easy/portable/takeaway so I agree
[18:43:06] <Ryan_Lane>	yeah :)
[18:43:11] <Ryan_Lane>	for mysql we'll be using zones
[18:43:17] <Ryan_Lane>	in the cluster
[18:43:18] <saper>	I use jails since that's on *my* systems and not *yours*
[18:44:06] <Ryan_Lane>	since the proliferation of zones I don't see the use of jails :)
[18:44:25] <Ryan_Lane>	except maybe jails + selinux for security
[18:44:37] <hexmode>	There are no jails in my zone!
[18:44:44] <hexmode>	and I'm crime free!
[18:45:17] <saper>	Ryan_Lane: maybe because I'm using FreeBSD with ezjail which makes jails easy
[18:45:25] <Ryan_Lane>	ah.
[18:45:38] <saper>	and I do zones on Solaris :)
[18:46:09] <Ryan_Lane>	http://www.openstack.org/blog/2011/04/announcing-project-reddwarf-database-as-a-service/
[18:46:18] <Ryan_Lane>	contailers for mysql
[18:46:23] <binasher>	hexmode: just read the entire ticket. the logging stuff i've been playing with has just been for the squids and bits is behind a varnish cluster.  no idea if we collect logs from it but i'll look into it
[18:46:28] <Ryan_Lane>	*containers
[18:46:44] <hexmode>	binasher: thank you!
[18:46:53] <hexmode>	binasher: update the ticket?
[18:47:00] <Ryan_Lane>	binasher: you like writing C, right? :)
[18:47:00] <binasher>	you gots it
[18:47:07] <binasher>	Ryan_Lane: SHUN
[18:47:12] <Ryan_Lane>	muaahahaha
[18:47:34] <Ryan_Lane>	binasher: you've been looking at the squid logging?
[18:47:40] <Ryan_Lane>	I need to add that to nginx
[18:48:02] <Ryan_Lane>	I have a module that sends logs via UDP, but it's syslog style
[18:48:27] <Ryan_Lane>	I modified it to send to a port of my choosing, but am wondering how much I need to change the logging style
[18:56:11] <binasher>	ooh.. if the logging style could exactly match squids, that would be perfect
[19:19:01] <Ryan_Lane>	binasher: yeah. they need to match squid's
[19:19:20] <Ryan_Lane>	binasher: but, udp2log puts multiple logs per packet, right?
[19:19:31] <Ryan_Lane>	I need to remember that you've gone off to lunch.
[23:02:58] <neilk_>	pdhanda: $wgDefaultUserOptions['wikilove-enabled'] = 1;
[23:05:15] <neilk_>	pdhanda: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiLove
[23:12:26] <bawolff>	did WikiLove get deployed?
[23:13:49] <Krinkle>	on officewiki
[23:15:44] <Krinkle>	http://noc.wikimedia.org/conf/highlight.php?file=InitialiseSettings.php#wmgUseWikiLove
[23:16:40] <brion>	looooooooooooove
[23:18:21] <bawolff>	lol, because the office needs more love? :P