[05:55:41] morning guillom [05:56:10] moin sumanah [05:56:15] *sumanah does morning stuff so as to get going [07:13:54] http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/2011TechMeetingDay02 [07:14:23] thx guillom [07:37:33] He-Man, Scrummaster Of The Universe! [08:11:25] I'm watching now :) [08:45:28] despite the break, some are still talking/working [09:02:51] nimish_g, tomaszf etc. -- http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/2011TechMeetingDay02 [09:13:34] tomaszf, We need to find some time to talk today about your blog posts [09:13:39] (friendly reminder) [09:14:35] jorm: about? [09:14:46] si [09:15:26] 'sup? [09:15:39] nothing much [09:15:52] just been at work today, gone home to be lazy. Now: wiki work :-) [09:16:48] hooray! [09:17:10] i desperately want someone to fix that padding bug in etherpad. [09:17:38] jorm: I desperately want a table of contents/index of All Etherpads On This Server [09:17:44] jorm: yeah [09:17:48] jorm: so, want to chat moodbar? [09:17:53] sure! [09:17:57] let me know when you're ready [09:18:01] you've seen the initial design stuff? [09:18:04] i can talk now if you like. [09:18:54] RobH: Erik suggested I just ask you directly, now, for addition to the engineering alias, and to get on the Planet [09:18:59] i haven't had a chance to work on the entire dashboard stuff to publish on mw.org yet, but that's the Deep Magick. [09:19:19] sumanah: you should probably just turn around and tell him directly. [09:19:26] Does someone know of a good-quality desktop recording tool for ubuntu? [09:19:51] I need to make a video of good quality that is better than a regular, hardly readable screencast. [09:19:56] guillom: hold on..... [09:20:04] guillom: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeMarketing/Gnome3In30Seconds/HOWTO [09:20:09] (says she, sitting right next to me) [09:20:16] jorm: sure [09:20:19] I've seen the initial things [09:20:23] and I like the plan [09:20:25] sumanah, Thank you!!! [09:20:29] but yes, I want to know how you see the dashboard [09:21:00] well, have you seen the mozilla one? [09:21:14] sumanah: huh? [09:21:36] jorm: probably before, I've used GetSatisfaction before [09:21:53] getcherself a firefox and hit this: http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/ [09:23:46] ooh, I like the dashboard, but where's the input? [09:24:06] also, how do they reply to it? [09:24:10] so, in a new tab, go to help->submit feedback [09:24:14] they don't reply. [09:24:23] which is where our system will have to excell. [09:25:19] our system will have at least usernames. [09:25:27] sec. i'm switching wireless networks. [09:26:06] whee! [09:26:29] right [09:26:30] yeah [09:26:32] the replying is big [09:27:08] so, for later versions, we may want to have the user indicate "reply request" and then poll, waiting for a reply. [09:27:11] or something. [09:27:12] trying to update it [09:27:23] (FF) [09:27:33] right. you have to be most current. [09:28:40] doesn't FF auto update these days? [09:28:43] or is that just chrome? [09:29:24] FF 4's auto update is broken for me [09:29:35] I'm on 3.5 [09:29:42] It's tried and failed to go to 4.01 a bunch of times [09:29:45] Ooooh [09:29:55] Not even 3.6 let alone 4 [09:30:01] Dude FF4 is great [09:30:09] ugh, it wants me to download a file to update [09:30:13] aren't we past that? [09:30:15] RobH: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/meta/wiki/Planet_Wikimedia#Requests_for_inclusion [09:35:23] jorm: right, I've seen it [09:35:27] it's pretty bog standard [09:36:24] so, you know, fyi, i'll probably throw everything away soon and redesign (before we start implementing) as my understanding of the problem has grown. [09:37:06] excellent [09:37:08] :) [09:37:19] how are you thinking of modifying the input thing? [09:39:18] I'm not sure yet. I just know I'm not entirely happy with it right now. [09:39:59] fair enough [09:40:02] But if you want something to do, you can start thinking about the kinds of data we can or should pull/store and the ways we can slice it. [09:40:16] because the dashboard bit is the heavyweight stuff. [09:40:44] For the front end, this is probably Krinkle or Jan Paul. [10:03:56] jorm: nod [10:04:00] cheers [10:04:19] TimStarling: are you around? [10:04:28] he's in a meeting about commit access. [10:04:32] ah, okay [11:33:03] is there any one who can help me with my problem i have wiki on my localhost and i cnt log in becouse i get this message help me to fix this i need to finish my wiki and upload it i will not upload it if not finished [11:33:03] Login error [11:33:03] There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Go back to the previous page, reload that page and then try again. [11:34:02] You should ask support questions in #mediawiki [11:34:14] And as I told you before, you probably need to fix your session.save_path to point to a writable directory [11:34:53] it is point to writable dir [11:35:16] look [11:35:16] session.save_path = "c:/wamp/tmp" [11:35:31] that is writable dir [11:39:26] Are you sure that it's writable for the web server too, that you shouldn't be using backslashes instead of forward slashes etc? [11:39:32] i don't know, I've never run PHP on Windows [11:39:43] Or, I guess I have, but not since like 2008 [11:40:15] im sure that is writable dir [11:40:34] i will try to insert .txt document and put dir on it [11:41:33] nop and that not work [16:55:15] Hm.. the audio of the recordings ( http://www.livestream.com/wikimediaberlin/ ) appears to be terrible for the Friday talks (echo echo echo). eg. http://www.livestream.com/wikimediaberlin/video?clipId=pla_3be41248-5951-4a7d-a617-ae48dd4f8bb6 [16:55:22] Anyone know more about that ? [17:22:56] Krinkle, I'm guessing there was a mic in the camera, and the speakers make the echo :/ [17:23:03] yeah.. [18:31:44] Hm.. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/nv/wiki/MediaWiki:Size-kilobytes [18:31:48] funky color scheme [18:33:29] It's awful [19:24:54] hi [19:25:34] Hi [19:28:02] Krinkle: is the testswarm dashboard public or does it requires an account / hidden URL? [19:28:14] What dashboard ? [19:29:11] Ah you mean the overview of the revisions. Well, TestSwarm is exctually quite scalable. It doesn't have a general dashboard but a per-user index page. [19:29:24] http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/testswarm/user/KrinkleBot/ [19:29:34] KrinkleBot is the account that submits the MediaWiki commits. [19:29:57] Linked from http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/testswarm/scores/?action=listallusers [19:30:11] exactly what I was looking for [19:30:13] danke! [19:30:29] Right now KrinkleBot is the only user that has the 'addjob' right. [19:30:32] You're welcome [19:31:20] if you're a tester (wether or not registered) /user/name will show the names of the browsers currently connected [19:31:30] For example [19:31:33] http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/testswarm/user/Timo/ [19:32:03] :D I'm not connected right now :P [19:33:05] well my score URL just show me I am connected with opera :b [19:33:06] http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/testswarm/user/hashar/ [19:33:18] correct ? [19:33:26] http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/testswarm/user/reedy [19:33:27] xD [19:33:39] yeah, I'm spamming under your name Reedy [19:33:43] Though, I'm not sure how I'm testing OSX when I don't own a mac [19:33:46] Oh. [19:33:47] I was testing something and now it's stuck in my cookie [19:34:07] When you're logged out and anonymously join the swarm you can enter any name [19:34:10] I talked about that testing stuff to hexmode [19:34:31] maybe you could setup a virtual swarm with Ryan virtual cluster [19:34:35] *Krinkle blames John Resig [19:34:44] hashar: Sure, that's very possible. [19:35:03] However, i'm not sure to what extend that should be virtual. [19:35:28] ie. it should be under real Mac OS X, and real Windows not Wine emulation or something. [19:35:30] the only issue is that you have to restart the browsers every X hours [19:35:32] Yeah [19:35:35] to avoid memleaks [19:35:37] But run a few linux VM's etc [19:35:52] and to avoid malicious results due to differences in fake OS and real OS. [19:36:21] btw, did you manage to get a firefox 2 installed ? [19:38:40] No [19:39:04] It works locally [19:39:17] I know the engine version etc., but I haven't had the time to deploy and update to toolserver yet and to refresh the swarm [19:39:27] I'll do it tonight sometime [19:39:41] Reedy: I've cleared cookies for me: http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/testswarm/user/reedy [19:41:17] I've also fixed the table overview to account for the possibility of the browser set changing over time (previously at the time Firefox 3.5 and Opera 11.1 was added the table would fall a column short and the results would be in the wrong column) [19:42:04] Lols [19:44:59] It fetched stuff from the table and in the while() loop it would generate the table headers during the first iteration and the next iteration just spit out ... foreach(...).{ ... ... ..} .... [19:45:57] I've fixed it to do a while loop pushing all rows in an array, and then looping once to get all differrent browsers, and then a second loop to output the actual cells (and output a bright grey cell if the browser isn't in this row). [19:46:11] you might want to submit the patch upstream! [19:46:20] I am working on that right now. [19:46:24] Among many other patches. [19:46:27] The code base sucks. [19:49:03] as long as it does the job ... [19:50:08] Welll, that's the problem. It didn't do the job. [19:50:31] It worked on his server in the root for jquery in git. But not on toolserver in a subdirectory for mediawiki from svn. [20:08:48] well [20:09:02] going to bed and dreaming in german is going to be fun tonight [20:09:04] *guillom waves. [20:09:12] G??tenacht! [20:09:21] the 8am office meeting will probably be the most boring meeting ever :( [20:09:31] guillom :-) [20:09:39] Bonne nuit! [20:09:50] Bonne nuit ! [21:50:27] nn