[11:21:15] *RoanKattouw 	wonders what neilk_ is doing up at this hour
[11:21:39] <neilk_>	we just got mountain dew at the office
[11:21:50] <RoanKattouw>	haha
[11:21:56] <neilk_>	anyway i'm home now watching the daily show
[11:22:07] <RoanKattouw>	Well I seemed to be on caffeine myself today
[11:22:12] <RoanKattouw>	Slept like 3-4 hours
[11:22:25] <RoanKattouw>	Woke up not feeling tired
[11:22:53] <Reedy>	Alright for some!
[11:23:37] <RoanKattouw>	I have a strange, slightly jetlag-like feeling now
[11:24:06] <Reedy>	Usually if you're high on caffine, you don't sleep ;)
[11:24:25] <RoanKattouw>	And in a few hours I will probably get really sleepy; that happened to me in class once, causing me to miss a question on this morning's exam
[11:24:28] <RoanKattouw>	Yeah, that's right
[11:24:32] <RoanKattouw>	Caffeine = no sleep
[15:41:50] <guillom>	So, is there a Features team meeting today? 'cause apparently it disappeared from my calendar.
[15:45:54] <RoanKattouw>	hah
[15:46:00] <RoanKattouw>	There is also no Etherpad
[15:46:06] <RoanKattouw>	And no Alolita, but that's not weird
[17:02:35] <RoanKattouw>	alolita: I wanna call in but my headset has gone missing :(
[17:03:06] <RoanKattouw>	Let's see if that built-in mic really works
[17:03:08] <alolita>	RoanKattouw: thanks for the etherpad
[17:03:31] <alolita>	RoanKattouw: you still have almost an hour to make it work :-)
[17:03:38] <RoanKattouw>	Oh
[17:03:40] <RoanKattouw>	Dammit
[17:03:42] <RoanKattouw>	DST change
[17:07:07] <RoanKattouw>	At least I timed losing my headset right
[17:07:16] <RoanKattouw>	My new laptop has a built-in mic, and I've just confirmed it works
[17:54:52] *RoanKattouw 	is in 2003
[17:59:01] <guillom>	RoanKattouw, I'm there too, but we seem to be alone.
[17:59:25] <RoanKattouw>	Whee, folks are here now
[17:59:27] <guillom>	yeah
[20:18:12] <jorm>	TrevorParscal, briod, kaldari, parul:  topical: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Photoshop_release_history
[20:18:39] <TrevorParscal>	whee
[20:19:04] <TrevorParscal>	2.5 is when they did the big port
[20:19:12] <TrevorParscal>	but indeed, it started on mac originally
[20:19:14] <TrevorParscal>	nice
[20:19:20] <jorm>	yeah.  that jives with my memory.
[20:19:42] <TrevorParscal>	they were only on irix for SGI I bet
[20:19:51] <jorm>	yeah, probably.
[21:31:28] <RoanKattouw>	sumanah: Do you have access to the office wiki?
[21:31:55] <sumanah>	no
[21:32:02] <sumanah>	RoanKattouw: AFAIK no
[21:32:09] <RoanKattouw>	Well that explains why you're not on the contact list there
[21:32:22] <RoanKattouw>	hexmode was asking for your phone extension but I'm guessing you don't have one of those either
[21:32:29] <sumanah>	nope!
[21:32:42] <hexmode>	sumanah: but you're here!
[21:32:50] <hexmode>	now I know your nick
[21:33:25] <sumanah>	hexmode: I think I'm also on some meta. list
[21:33:56] <sumanah>	https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/mediawiki/wiki/Developers
[21:34:54] <sumanah>	biab
[21:38:41] <TrevorParscal>	who's the moderator of Wikitech-l ?
[21:38:59] <RoanKattouw>	Good question
[21:39:22] <TrevorParscal>	I sent my narayam UI review email to the list, and didn't really think about it when I attached 2 PDF documents
[21:39:33] <TrevorParscal>	it bounced, saying a moderator will make a decision
[21:39:38] <RoanKattouw>	The mailman interface still says it's Huib
[21:39:59] <TrevorParscal>	I don't really care to send out attachments on the list, if we want to just kill it and I will upload them somewhere and link to them that's cool too
[21:40:07] <TrevorParscal>	whatever the policy is, I'm happy to follow it
[21:40:07] <^demon>	I am too :)
[21:40:36] <TrevorParscal>	but I guess, given the message I got back, the policy is, "only if it's approved"
[21:40:54] <TrevorParscal>	and I don't know what the criteria is for such approval
[21:41:21] <^demon>	I don't think this is a firm policy, I'm pretty sure we just reject them all.
[21:41:26] <^demon>	But you're sane, I can let it through.
[21:41:28] <TrevorParscal>	ha ha
[21:41:31] <TrevorParscal>	right on
[21:42:26] <TrevorParscal>	FYI - it's like 1.1MB
[21:43:19] <^demon>	Actually, that's what held it, message size.
[21:43:26] <^demon>	Reason:	Message body is too big: 1166241 bytes with a limit of 225 KB :)
[21:43:39] <RoanKattouw>	Just put the PDFs on a wiki?
[21:43:48] <TrevorParscal>	sure
[21:43:54] <RoanKattouw>	Rather than sending a meg of stuff to hundreds of people
[21:43:54] <TrevorParscal>	like I said, I didn't really think about it atm
[21:43:58] <TrevorParscal>	for sure
[21:44:05] <^demon>	Whoops, already pressed ok.
[21:44:06] <TrevorParscal>	can we make sure it gets killed and I will resend?
[21:44:08] <^demon>	Next time then :p
[21:44:10] <TrevorParscal>	ha ha
[21:44:12] <TrevorParscal>	no worries
[21:44:32] <TrevorParscal>	ok, well it went out, without attachments
[21:44:39] <TrevorParscal>	so I will just reply to all with links :)
[21:44:44] <^demon>	Ah, it probably stripped them automagically :)
[21:45:18] <^demon>	Heh, so it bounced for the filesize which included attachments, but stripped them anyway.
[21:45:22] <^demon>	Sounds like a "feature"
[21:48:21] <Ryan_Lane>	I think the list strips all attachments
[21:48:28] <^demon>	Right, I know it does that.
[21:48:43] <^demon>	But it held it for moderation based on the e-mail size *with* attachments, which it was going to strip anyway
[21:48:55] <^demon>	Without attachments, his e-mail wasn't even close to the max e-mail size.
[21:52:48] <TrevorParscal>	yeah, that seems broken
[23:06:37] <^demon|away>	Ryan_Lane: I just found out some fantastic news.
[23:06:59] <^demon>	The european bistro around the corner has Konig Pils :D
[23:06:59] <Ryan_Lane>	oh?
[23:07:06] <Ryan_Lane>	nice
[23:16:14] <brion>	TrevorParscal, hey got time to show me the narayam state real quick?
[23:16:18] <brion>	i'm trying ot figure it out :D
[23:16:28] <TrevorParscal>	sure
[23:20:23] <sumanah>	I have successfully cleared missed calls from my office phone!
[23:20:53] <sumanah>	I feel like I just hunted a tiger