[14:20:55] any GSoC mentor here? [14:21:54] What's your question? [14:22:09] (I'm not gonna be a GSoC mentor this year, but I was one last year, FWIW) [14:22:29] nice [14:23:17] well, i'd like to know if the project ideas (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Summer_of_Code_2011) are avaliable for anyone [14:23:30] or should i create my own idea/suggestion? [14:23:40] Both are fine [14:24:27] If you come up with your own idea, it's recommended that you talk to people to see your idea isn't crazy first, though :) [14:24:44] haha ok :) [14:25:11] so the topics out there, can i pick one like Add some kind of GUI for toolbar customization at "MediaWiki core" [14:25:24] or the entire topic "MediaWiki core"? [14:34:41] You can pick anything you like [14:35:00] Ok [14:35:06] thank you very much [14:35:41] should i discuss here with the possible mentor first? [14:36:10] it's a good idea yes [14:36:12] or just apply with the proposal, with an explanation? [14:36:15] Discuss things with devs in #mediawiki , yes [14:36:17] I would chat here [14:36:23] Or here [14:36:28] But this place is kinda dead on Sundays [14:36:38] right, sorry by "here" I mean "a tech irc channel" [14:36:49] Right [14:36:57] Community devs tend to hang out in #mediawiki more [14:37:22] ok [14:37:24] The most active people in this channel tend to be staff developers, and they're not usually working at 7:43am their time :P [14:37:27] on a Sunday [14:37:37] haha [14:37:38] sorry [14:37:43] (Of course apergos and I are here...) [14:37:45] i'm brazilian [14:37:46] I'm working but I'm not in that time zone [14:37:51] nor is RoanKattouw [14:37:57] I'm also working [14:37:59] it's 11pm here :) [14:37:59] On a Sunday :) [14:38:07] and sometimes we even take a sunday and *do something else* (horrors!) [14:38:16] You're not in Brazil then, are you? [14:38:36] Oh or did you mean AM maybe [14:38:52] AM, sorr [14:38:54] *sorry [14:38:56] :) [14:38:58] ah [14:39:40] Same timezone as US East Coast then [14:39:57] well, thank you guys for the help [14:40:11] have a great day [14:40:19] see ya soon ;-) [14:40:20] appreciate [14:49:07] apergos: Since you're here anyway.... I need a root to move /etc/cron.d/l10nupdate from hume to fenari [14:49:22] fenari? [14:49:32] I wonder cron jobs like that oughta be [14:49:38] but since I don't have an opinion.... [14:50:18] Well it's broken on hume now cause I changed it [14:50:22] hume doesn't have dsh installed [14:50:25] meh [14:50:29] Nor does it have the host lists, probably [14:50:49] Hmm although [14:50:52] I guess this can wait [14:50:53] well before you cron job it do you want to run it once by hand and be sure it goes? [14:51:00] I'll post to private-l and have Mark move it [14:51:08] I already ran it by hand a few hours ago, ran fine [14:51:10] ok [14:51:33] actually if you post there then we can do things like "should it be in puppet? what host should it really live on?" etc [14:51:55] I was getting ready to "just move it' but we should start getting better about these things [14:52:19] Yeah [14:52:27] This change is needed because of ResourceLoader [14:52:32] oh ho [14:52:37] And it allows us to kill a cronjob on the apaches [14:52:51] Cause it used to be a 2am cronjob writing the files and a 3am cronjob on each Apache pulling them [14:52:58] and now? [14:53:04] Now it's 2am: write files, push to Apaches. clear RL message blob tables [14:53:21] better having it all in one place [14:53:32] less chance of fsckup in case of changes [14:53:59] Yeah, and the need to run clearMessageBlobs.php after the Apaches have the changes means we can't do the pull model any more [14:55:38] puppetizing would mean we could make sure it gets run once on redeployment of any host [14:55:59] are you just working 7/7 24/24 ? :p [14:56:04] no :-D [14:56:12] I seem to see you both online every single time I am connected! [14:56:16] I am doing these workshops some days so then I need to make up the time [14:56:40] I'm involved in them heavily for the first few til we get the material and structure down [14:56:46] then I'll likely do just one a month or whatever [14:56:54] which will be much more mangeable [15:24:11] I dunno if the one job is managed by puppet [15:24:16] it would be nice if it were :-P