[18:41:13] today's the last day to submit a talk to Open Source Bridge: http://opensourcebridge.org/call-for-proposals/ [18:41:24] I gave a talk last year and the conference was good [19:22:39] http://www.flickr.com/photos/trevorparscal/5053172749/in/photostream/ [19:25:42] TrevorParscal: pretty! [19:26:21] :) [19:27:43] I'm going to work on it tonight with another member of http://www.bayareatwostroke.com/ - maybe get to ride it for the first time ever... (i started the project in 2006) [19:30:13] Hm.. mediawiki:Filepage.css works now as of 1.17. It looks out of place though. It's the only element which uses action=raw in the DOm. [19:30:28] (on the client wiki) [19:37:32] TrevorParscal: while you're looking ... did you see my email about rawhtml? [19:38:04] Krinkle: true, I think I hacked it in before RL existed [19:38:42] lookin [19:39:01] I'm going through release-notes in REL1_17, I didn't know some of the stuff [19:39:02] krinkle@willow:~$ sql commonswiki_p "SELECT * from page_props LIMIT 10" [19:39:06] Awesome [19:39:12] page_props tracks all magic words [19:39:33] That should be in a on all pages as "new feature" P [19:40:26] hexmode: that's interesting, Roan and I have been discussing moving scripts to the top [19:40:45] someone did that prior to us branching to develop ResourceLoader, so we just stuck with it [19:40:56] k [19:40:59] it's a common "best practice" because it allows the page to load faster [19:41:12] given that scripts block [19:41:20] TrevorParscal: excellent. just another point to keep in mind. Maybe move to top only on RawHTML? [19:41:44] the difference is more noticeable on older browsers though, many modern ones start fetching things while the scripts load and run [19:42:10] well, moving there might not be as simple as that, but, we are going to explore it [19:42:33] update the bug, please? :) [19:42:35] It could be made into a module TrevorParscal and loaded like lol Apparently MediaWiki 2.13.4 was in development two years ago :P [19:46:37] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17414#c5 [19:52:07] Krinkle: that would assume the source wiki to run 1.17 [19:52:19] an assumption that i'd rather not make [19:52:24] Bryan: ? [19:52:31] The thing is introduced in 1.17 [19:52:42] oh right [19:52:44] that's true [19:54:33] Krinkle: but perhaps we can cache it via the local load.php? [19:55:20] Bryan: I'm trying to perform a query but I think I'm missing something as it's failing. I want all DISTINCT() values in a certain column + how many rows each distinct value has. [19:55:31] Bryan: yeah, like we cache description pages. [19:55:42] + option to disable such cache. [19:55:57] (again, like with thumbs/description) [19:56:01] Krinkle: GROUP BY? [19:59:00] Bryan: ah, thanks got it [19:59:00] krinkle@willow:~$ sql nlwiki_p "SELECT count(*),pp_propname FROM page_props GROUP BY pp_propname" [19:59:03] forgot about that one :) [19:59:15] works like a charm [20:21:31] http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=query&prop=pageprops&titles=Commons:Sandbox [20:21:32] Hm.. [20:22:44] broom broom [20:23:39] lol [20:23:53] the real question is if there is a table of contents on that page [20:24:10] Depends on the order of the magic words in the source code [20:24:42] scrap that [20:24:48] Forcetoc overrides notoc [20:24:50] always [20:29:30] bawolff: remind me, you're thinking of mentoring for GSoC this year? [20:29:45] no... [20:30:01] I don't really think I've been around long enough to be a mentor [20:30:35] I'd of course be willing to help out with any questions any of the students might have though [20:30:56] robla: ^ re seniority, what's your thinking? [20:31:03] bawolff: what would be long enough? maybe next year? [20:31:11] (in a meeting...sorry) [20:31:13] sure [20:31:35] maybe next year. I'm still quite new around here in many ways [20:35:58] bawolff: and you don't want to apply for GSoC as a summer internship this summer, right? [20:36:19] If you are eligible, we'd like you to apply, and we are completely fine with repeating students [20:36:23] bawolff: Jeroen repeated [20:36:37] I don't know. Spending the summer doing mediawiki stuff would be awesome [20:38:48] bawolff: don't pre-reject yourself; I think you should put a proposal together and let our mentors evaluate it. If yours is one of the best, we would want to see that [20:39:33] I'm seriously considering it. I've been spending quite a bit of time recently doing mediawiki stuff, and I really am enjoying it [20:39:53] bawolff: I predict that most of our GSoC students will be new -- one second-time-around person would be a great help to them, I bet, in showing how it's done [20:41:00] bawolff: if your only concern is that you think GSoC should be for first-timers only, please know that I as org admin don't think that, and that there is precedent in having someone GSoC with the same project twice or more, and that I'd rather have more good proposals than fewer [20:41:49] bawolff: if you want, instead of MediaWiki per se, you could do OWA [20:42:02] http://wiki.openwebanalytics.com/index.php?title=GSoC_2011 [20:42:43] I think your convincing me :) [20:42:48] *you're [20:44:02] bawolff: remind me, what is your educational status? [20:44:37] I'll be going into 3rd year of a bachlor computer science next year [20:44:42] *sumanah is recruiting for OWA, MediaWiki, & CiviCRM http://wiki.civicrm.org/confluence/display/CRM/GSoC+2011+Ideas [20:44:42] I'm in second year right now [20:45:13] bawolff: please feel free to fwd my wikitech-l email about GSoC around your school, & hang this flyer up: https://code.google.com/p/google-summer-of-code/downloads/detail?name=GSoC2011Flyer.pdf [21:59:02] robla, is that meeting in an hour? [21:59:12] now, actually [22:00:10] Says 3-4pm pacific [22:00:18] oh [22:00:24] have your clocks changed? :/ [22:00:38] yeah, you're GMT - 7 now... [22:01:09] hexmode: http://eiximenis.wikimedia.org/CodeReviewTracker [22:02:29] Hi Bryan [22:02:30] D [22:02:35] hey [22:05:17] Reedy: How to get status=new & tag=1.17wmf1 ? [22:05:39] Or not possible yet ? [22:05:48] I've no idea [22:05:56] Let me check [22:06:07] Literally just got in, and straight into a meeting :P [22:06:27] k [22:06:29] np [22:06:54] so i'm in the process of svn up'ing, emails, etc etc :)