[00:21:27] <TimStarling>	RoanKattouw: done
[00:21:38] <RoanKattouw>	Saw it, thanks
[01:58:52] <TimStarling>	you want to know why zhwiki still has a lot of OOMs?
[01:58:54] <TimStarling>	http://p.defau.lt/?_6s0ZT14bOGo73PwJGZRPw
[02:20:39] <TimStarling>	ha
[02:23:51] <TimStarling>	there was an error in the live hack for language converter caching
[02:31:02] <TimStarling>	fixed now
[02:31:12] <TimStarling>	and suddenly zhwiki is 4 times faster
[05:19:17] <Shirley>	Nice.
[11:13:53] <thedj>	wow, no new issues on WP:VP/T for over 10 hours. seems we've got most tech issues down now.
[11:14:53] <RoanKattouw>	Nice
[11:25:12] <TimStarling>	I was just saying in #mediawiki, I've isolated the OOMs that happen in replaceInternalLinks
[11:25:51] <TimStarling>	it's because replaceInternalLinks is the first thing that calls fss_prep_replace(), and fss_prep_replace() uses a *lot* of memory if you have 20,000 strip items
[11:27:12] <TimStarling>	btw in the test case, almost all of those strip items consist of "<!-- WARNING: template omitted, post-expand include size too large -->"
[11:30:00] <RoanKattouw>	Great
[11:30:08] <RoanKattouw>	Have the LangConv OOMs stopped with your new code?
[11:31:55] <TimStarling>	yes
[11:32:19] <TimStarling>	there are still OOMs from zhwiki, from this second problem I found
[11:33:59] <TimStarling>	it's kind of related to the LanguageConverter
[11:34:17] <TimStarling>	since FSS is using a lot of memory in LanguageConverter as well as in the parser
[12:45:45] <TimStarling>	http://www.tgries.de/agrep/index.html
[12:45:47] <TimStarling>	small world
[12:46:28] <TimStarling>	I was reading the paper about the multi-pattern search algorithm in agrep
[12:46:39] <TimStarling>	as a possible alternative to what we use in FSS
[12:47:32] <TimStarling>	it turns out that Thomas Gries did some work on it in 1998 and has repeatedly hassled the university trying to get it freely licensed
[18:58:46] <RoanKattouw>	alolita1: jorm: It's 11
[19:00:05] <RoanKattouw>	Hrm
[19:04:25] <RoanKattouw>	Could whoever is not muting themselves please do so?
[19:04:33] <RoanKattouw>	Their keyboard hits are interrupting the conversation for me
[19:04:55] <Krinkle>	lol
[19:06:09] <RoanKattouw>	Fixed now, thanks mdale
[19:06:17] <mdale>	;)
[19:06:34] <guillom>	mdale, are you in Mexico these days?
[19:06:42] <mdale>	yes I am in mexico right now
[19:07:58] <guillom>	mdale, I'd need to chat with you today if possible to get an update on your work for the monthly report; or if you'd like to send me a small paragraph about it, you could do that too.
[19:08:18] <mdale>	sure
[19:08:29] <mdale>	the big new thing is transcoding extension
[19:08:42] <mdale>	but mostly been busy with kaltura stuff :(
[19:09:44] <guillom>	ok; mdale , could you maybe add a short summary to http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/WMF_Engineering_Overview_March_2011#Wikimedia_Labs , and we can discuss it in details later this week or the next?
[19:10:11] <mdale>	http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/Main_Page
[19:10:28] <guillom>	eww
[19:10:32] <mdale>	black thumbnail
[19:10:48] <mdale>	but .. the important part is the little switch stream src thing at the bottom :)
[19:10:56] <guillom>	it's all garbled
[19:11:02] <mdale>	mm
[19:11:37] <mdale>	oh
[19:11:41] <mdale>	gzip.. one sec
[19:12:22] <mdale>	should work now ;)
[19:12:56] <RoanKattouw>	I love these kinds of weeks where half of the tech section in the signpost is about me :D
[19:13:10] <Reedy>	Well, you didn't find the bug fix :P
[19:13:16] <guillom>	:)
[19:13:51] <RoanKattouw>	?
[19:14:02] <guillom>	mdale, what's "the little switch stream src" ?
[19:14:33] <mdale>	bottom of the player
[19:14:50] <mdale>	"Ogg 480P"
[19:14:54] <guillom>	oh, ok
[19:15:56] <mdale>	supports webm if you have firefox 4 installed.. but more importantly .. videos will use a constant bitrate web resolution version not the HD variable bitrate source file when embedded in pages!
[19:16:35] <guillom>	mdale, I think I understand :) thanks
[19:17:05] <mdale>	"helps make open video suck less"
[19:18:41] <Krinkle>	mdale: Hm.. not sure if you know but on http://prototype.wikimedia.org/timedmedia/ I see the native HTML5 player of my webkit browser for a second and then it's replaced by something else.
[19:19:13] <mdale>	Krinkle: If i turn off debug mode resource loader fails
[19:19:23] <mdale>	so I have a 500ms manual delay
[19:19:40] <mdale>	normally it will get swapped faster
[19:19:54] <mdale>	and ofcourse the broken thumbnail is confusing.. need to recompile ffmpeg
[19:20:05] <guillom>	I see a thumbnail
[19:20:24] <guillom>	oh no
[19:20:25] <guillom>	ok
[19:20:27] <guillom>	replaced later
[19:20:30] <guillom>	nm :)
[19:23:00] <Krinkle>	md<tab fail>
[19:26:58] <Krinkle>	mdale: No need to close <source> tag in <video>
[19:27:06] <Krinkle>	{3} Unmatched </source> encountered.  Ignoring tag.
[19:27:51] <Krinkle>	I can't trace where this is done, but I guess you know the source way better than me of that extension
[19:27:54] <mdale>	doe sour xml class allow us to do that?
[19:27:57] <RoanKattouw>	mdale: Please mute yourself
[19:28:13] <mdale>	RoanKattouw: ops
[19:28:35] <RoanKattouw>	It sounds like RF interference from your keyboard into the headset cable or something
[19:28:36] <mdale>	looking at xml class see if we can do that easily
[19:28:53] <mdale>	RoanKattouw: I am mute.. am I still making noise?
[19:29:09] <RoanKattouw>	No, it's fine now
[19:29:17] <RoanKattouw>	Just describing what the noises were like when you weren't muted
[19:34:37] <mdale>	Krinkle: self closing <source /> and <track /> in r82625 ;)
[19:35:20] <Krinkle>	:)
[19:48:57] <mdale>	I need to figure out why TimedMediaHandler does not work when not in debug mode ;)
[19:50:34] <RoanKattouw>	heh
[20:45:46] <Krinkle>	RoanKattouw: I'm currently fixing up a wiki for 1.17 (Tour de Wiki), will take rouhgly 10 more minutes, then I'll go to the 'silent' room for the meeting. I maybe 1-2 minutes late FYI
[20:46:14] <RoanKattouw>	OK
[20:48:51] <Krinkle>	RoanKattouw:  By the way, the jslint-alternative I told you about last week, which I say was mentioned by the jQuery developers, of which I forgot the name.
[20:48:54] <Krinkle>	.. found it
[20:48:55] <Krinkle>	http://jshint.com/
[20:48:57] <Krinkle>	Hint*
[20:49:07] <Krinkle>	It actually can be passed within sanity
[20:49:38] <Krinkle>	All pages I touch in the tour will from now on pass JS hint, it's not even bothering me, but actually is productive and helpful.
[20:56:50] <RoanKattouw>	That's good
[20:57:32] <RoanKattouw>	Alright, it's meeting time
[20:57:41] *RoanKattouw 	fires up Skype
[21:02:04] <RoanKattouw>	This is amusing, both elephants and ChanServ just netsplit
[21:23:51] <RoanKattouw>	http://eiximenis.wikimedia.org/RL2
[22:52:38] <hexmode>	alolita1: we on in a bit?