[00:39:04] Anyone here able to svn update prototype ? Looks like there was a merge done to fix https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27085 but it's not live yet. [00:39:17] (to update the REL1.17 checkout, that is) [00:39:34] http://prototype.wikimedia.org/release-en/Special:Preferences [12:16:29] Bad, bad Alolita. [12:17:11] *guillom needs to wait for her report of mdale's work before publishing the monthly engineering report. [12:39:25] TimStarling: You still around? I'm about to revert RevisionMove in 1.17 and do another run through the 1.17 merge queue. When that's done I intend to create the 1.17wmf1 branch. Are you OK with that or do you think it's too early or that something needs to be done before it's created? [15:58:52] hi there! [15:59:08] Hi mglaser [15:59:31] hello [16:00:24] hi pdhanda and Janesh [16:00:36] Hi Rob [16:01:35] notes for this week: http://eiximenis.wikimedia.org/TestFrameworkDiscussion2011-02-03 [16:01:59] ok [16:02:57] it looks like we have most folks here (jinesh is still on the other channel) [16:03:35] let's start off with the 1.17 testing that Calcey has been doing [16:03:50] nadeesha_calcey and Janesh: how is that going? [16:04:36] pdhanda has done a lot of work on prototype, and it seems to be in pretty good shape from our perspective, but we wanted to see if you felt the same [16:04:39] We worked on Testing MediaWiki prototype against Mac/Safari [16:05:07] Smoke test MediaWiki on Mac/FF and Smoke test MediaWiki on Fedora/FF [16:05:31] robla: Jinesh is trying to log to #wikimedia-dev and he is getting an error [16:05:55] I am in now [16:06:04] Hi Jinesh [16:06:15] I gave few updates on testing [16:06:24] You can continue from there [16:06:36] Janesh:Hi, its oki, you can update [16:06:59] ok [16:07:20] We continued with bug verification and all the issues are updated to bugzilla [16:08:02] We noticed that few fixed bugs are not fixed in staging environment [16:08:34] oh, i suppose it's all probably still manually updated [16:08:43] i can update now [16:08:47] I updated a few hours ago [16:08:52] Thanks [16:08:58] And started the practice of noting the last update time on the main page [16:09:01] thought i should make sure it gets updated more often via cron or something [16:09:03] (using {{subst:CURRENTTIME}} and such) [16:09:12] thanks RoanKattouw [16:09:33] pdhanda: Also, I the fact that it was a svn+ssh checkout instead of an http checkout and owned by you was causing me problems, so I switched it over to be an http checkout [16:09:42] look at that....thanks RoanKattouw [16:10:03] The downside of shared updates is that permissions get screwed up really fast, so you have to use sudo [16:10:35] yeah, i was wondering what a good way to handle that was [16:10:46] jinesh: Janesh: and nadeesha_calcey: any time you need a prototype update, drop into this channel and ask for one [16:11:09] ok we keep a note of that ..thanks [16:11:46] given the distribution of people we have working throughout the world, *someone* will probably be awake and working no matter what time you ask [16:12:21] ok [16:12:25] not everyone here has access to do the updates, but there's a lot lot of people who do [16:13:49] ok [16:13:52] is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26827 the most important bug you've found right now? [16:13:58] ("User cannot insert any commands by clicking on the wiki buttons on toolbar in Internet explorer browser") [16:16:59] While we're waiting on that: mglaser: how are things going in your world? [16:17:26] I did some updates on the documentation [16:17:41] robla: I have verified that bug today, I will update the bug status, it should be closed [16:17:46] also, I wrote to wikitech-l [16:18:03] *robla looks for mglaser's wikitech-l mail [16:19:37] ah, right...the fgets thing you talked about earlier [16:19:38] status there is I am waiting for suggestions. in the meantime, I am looking for alternatives [16:19:43] yes [16:20:12] i have not yet documented my design ideas, so that item is still open [16:20:26] yeah, if anyone on this channel wants to weigh in on the "Issue with importing a test database" mail to wikitech-l, please do so [16:21:57] pdhanda: have you had a cnace to review Markus' work on the db/repo stuff? [16:22:08] bug26287 we reopened sice the fix was not avilable in protptype, now its updated so that we can verify it [16:22:26] hmm rolba i did a little while ago, let me check what changed [16:22:47] oh...I must not have noted it last week. I'll do that now [16:23:53] pdhanda: what other config work is left to do on prototype? [16:23:54] i have not looked at his latest change on 01/27 but i did make some follow up changes to the db stuff [16:24:29] robla: i burned a few hours yesterday trying to get lucene and search working on them [16:24:49] that would be nice to have.. i'll see whether someone can help me with that [16:25:17] i need to check in all the configs and scripts, set up a few corn jobs [16:25:33] that's about it [16:25:34] pdhanda, if you ping rainman-sr in #mediawiki he's usually pretty helpful [16:25:44] Reedy: will do [16:26:16] *Reedy can really see this as a use of Ryan_Lane's virtualisation... [16:26:19] pdhanda: cool. Leinad found that release-pl doesn't have flagged revs configured [16:26:40] see what? [16:26:50] :) [16:27:01] pdhanda: I gave Leinad bureaucrat access to release-de, which does seem to have FR just fine [16:27:07] way too much backscroll to read. heh [16:27:20] Ryan_Lane, having a replicated version of the cluster, so it can be tested all but in situ for newer releases, rather than like now [16:27:37] yeah, that's the plan [16:27:37] robla: odd, ill double check the configs??? i don't think i changed that, maybe the wiki name is different [16:28:15] will be offl for 10 mins [16:28:48] k...thanks mglaser [16:29:55] one thing that would be really nice to have as well is a dedicated spot for testing security releases like the one we just had [16:31:08] anyway, we're through the list of action items [16:31:09] robla: if we wait a week till 1.17 is deployed, that we can use prototype with existing data/configs for that :) [16:31:30] pdhanda: really good point [16:32:14] yup, let's make sure we don't dismantle that branch....the trick is going to be to make sure that we don't have a conflict between feature testing and security testing [16:32:46] true [16:32:52] anyway, I think we've talked about everything we need to talk about for now. everyone feel like they know what they need to do for the next week? [16:35:06] ok heading to work soon [16:35:30] robla: yes :) [16:36:03] nadeesha_calcey: jinesh_ you folks all set? [16:36:06] robla: do we need to continue our manual testing further? [16:36:28] robla: we will continue on testing on prototype [16:36:31] nadeesha_calcey: yes, please [16:36:45] is there anything specific to focus on?? [16:36:50] robla: okay thanks [16:37:20] jinesh_: I'd say try to hit all of the special pages if you haven't done that yet [16:37:36] ok [16:38:10] anyone else on the channel have thoughts about what areas we should focus on in the time we have left for launch? [16:39:07] file uploads maybe [16:39:28] jinesh_: also, there's an Arabic test wiki up. I know it'll probably be pretty tough to test assuming you don't have anyone who speaks Arabic, but we're mainly lookting for RTL issues there [16:40:50] oki, we will have a look in the arabic setup, just to see pages load properly, whats the URL? [16:41:04] jinesh_: you can log in and choose a different RTL language from the preferences, which would be great testing http://prototype.wikimedia.org/release-ar [16:41:06] prototype.wikimedia.org/release-ar [16:41:29] robla: ah ok, we can do some testing that way [16:41:51] robla:ok ..thanks [16:42:33] let us know when we need to have a look in live after launch [16:43:00] great! [16:44:19] the 1.17 deploy is starting at 07:00 UTC on Feb 8 [16:44:46] Janesh: jinesh_: nadeesha_calcey: what time will that be where you are? [16:45:32] 13:00 ish? [16:46:19] so, middle of business day.....great! [16:46:32] 12:30 UTC +5:30 [16:46:50] 12.30 [16:47:07] yes UTC+5.30 [16:47:16] I think one thing that we'll want to make sure we do is be ready to visit every Wikimedia wiki after we deploy [16:47:19] http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?month=2&day=3&year=2011&p1=0&p2=389&p3=-1&p4=-1 [16:47:43] robla, you realise that is over 800, right? :P [16:47:44] I suspect it'll be a couple of hours after we start the deploy that we'll be ready for testing [16:48:05] Reedy: yeah, that's why I want help :) [16:48:09] heh [16:48:56] I don't think it's more than a page load and a couple of clicks for each wiki [16:49:07] we will start as soon as its ready for testing [16:49:36] jinesh_: can you make sure someone is logged in on this irc channel during that time? [16:50:29] yes, we will log in on to this channel, at that time [16:51:14] you'll probably want to make sure you get set up with a proper IRC client, so that if we say your name in the channel you get pinged. (I'm not sure the web client works like that) [16:51:38] something like Pidgin for Windows or Linux, or Colloquy for Mac [16:52:00] ok we will try one of clients [16:53:56] great! anything else we should talk about? [16:54:26] nothin from me [16:54:51] nothing for me too [16:54:59] well, thanks everyone! [16:55:09] thanks everyone [16:55:16] thanks all! [16:55:33] brb [16:55:35] thanks all ..have a nice day [19:49:22] http://www.codesimplicity.com/post/open-source-community-simplified/ [20:56:08] ooh [20:56:20] 15 minutes to the go/no go decision [21:07:32] <^demon> Go go go! [21:08:13] I should probably phone in [21:08:20] Aye [21:08:29] brb then ;) [21:10:19] Who else is in there? [21:10:37] i've no idea [21:10:38] let's see [21:11:31] robla: Ping [21:12:12] SIP broken again [21:12:22] WFM [21:12:32] Wouldn't be surprised if it's something to do with the office firewall though [21:12:47] That screwed up my SIP for like three weeks [21:14:36] ping hexmode [21:14:37] hexmode: Could you call in? [21:15:08] I'm not in fail2ban this time, but it does look like my packets are getting dropped somewhere [21:15:16] you guys need to pay atten tion in #mw [21:15:16] Hmm [21:15:27] but I'm having trouble connecting, too [21:15:39] Do you have the thing where it lets you log in and make a call, but drops the audio both ways? [21:15:39] :) [21:16:51] <^demon> Need to call in, one moment. [21:17:30] me? I can't get connected to VOIP ... not registering.. [21:17:36] Hm [21:17:42] just rebooted, if that doesn't work, I'll call in [21:17:47] Are you using a four-digit or a three-digit extension as your login name? [21:27:51] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=26611 [21:42:19] Hmm [21:42:26] I should probably pack up tonight... [21:43:09] I should probably get a train ticket [21:43:14] haha [21:43:32] TrevorParscal: Re: alolita's request for an AFT prototype deployment: do you mind doing that? [21:43:53] what would I be doing? [21:43:55] sysadmin work? [21:44:01] Roan tempts fate [21:44:06] Just thinking I need to leave here by 10am.. Going via my parents [21:44:12] Checking out the AF extension and editing a config file to enable it [21:44:22] Right; I need to take the 11:06 train [21:44:38] Which is 10:06am GMT, so we leave at the same time :) [21:44:48] When's your flight? [21:45:20] http://missionmission.wordpress.com/2011/02/03/bomb-squad-bomb-robot-drops-bag-of-grenades-accidentally-drives-right-over-one-near-18th-and-potrero-video/ [21:45:20] 13.55, 13.25 checkin [21:45:30] *boarding [21:47:24] RoanKattouw: I will make sure pdhanda has support - will that work? [21:48:39] RoanKattouw: i bug someone else her. go! [21:48:46] here even [21:50:14] hexmode: could you tag all of the fixme's that have been reverted only in the 1.17 branch as "1.18"? [21:51:00] And you're in Brussels at 16:40ish? [21:51:03] Or right, time difference [21:51:12] sure... just look for reverts in that branch, right? [21:51:16] 16.10 [21:51:20] local time [21:51:23] Oh right [21:51:24] Before me [21:51:27] I get in 16:28 [21:51:29] hexmode: yup, that will make it so that they won't show up on the fixme list here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_roadmap/1.17/Revision_report [21:52:29] No. 16:38 [21:54:33] robla: none there? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/status/reverted?path=%2Fbranches%2FREL1_17 [21:55:17] Fixmes on phase3 before branchpoint [21:55:25] hexmode: example: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/67094 [21:55:53] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/status/reverted?offset=77974&path=/trunk/phase3 [21:56:07] you want status=fixme [21:56:21] oh, missed that vital bit :/ [21:56:37] no worries! [21:59:04] Although status-parameter doesn't work yet in the currently deployed version ;-/ . Needs to be passed via title (/status/fixme) [21:59:25] Reedy, Krinkle: thanks, too [22:07:12] <^demon|away> status parameter doesn't work via URL param in trunk either? [22:07:17] <^demon|away> Only path, author [22:07:22] <^demon|away> offset, limit [22:07:41] only 100 revs to look at! [22:07:42] w00 [22:10:31] Yay [22:10:41] I'll go back to my queue after reading that IPv6 thread [22:18:07] robla: wouldn't it be best to tag things like http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/81445 as 1.17 ? [22:18:14] ER, 1.18 [22:18:34] oh, but you want to block the fixme [22:23:35] If the rev is >77973, why tag it as 1.17? [22:24:13] heh [22:24:18] RoanKattouw: I'm just slow today. Please forgive :) [22:24:52] heh [22:24:58] I get that sometimes [22:25:08] I once tagged and tried to merge a rev in the 63000s [22:25:37] *Reedy pats RoanKattouw on the head [22:25:52] is there a reason to leave this FIXME? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/70270 [22:25:54] heh [22:26:24] hexmode, i think no, just maybe a bug upstream to do it another way [22:26:59] *Reedy closes some of his multiple CR tabs [22:27:00] Reedy: well, I took the easy way out for now. [22:27:34] heh [22:27:38] for all we care, that's fine [22:36:50] TrevorParscal: did we decide that r71465 and r71157 were ok for merging? [22:37:36] r71465 yes [22:37:43] yes to both [22:37:49] RoanKattouw: Currently writing a jquery plugin to fix bug 26888. It'll be called within mw.util.jsMessage(). [22:38:01] I think you'll like it :) [22:38:28] Great [22:39:16] I think mw.log should me used way more in code javascript. If I enable debug mode the console is empty. If I enable php debug mode there's always some information. [22:39:20] core * [22:43:48] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/tag/1.18 -- if you get a chance look over these that I've tagged 1.18 to see if you disagree [22:47:58] robla: could you run your "stats thingy" [22:59:40] heya...disappearing into a meeting, but will when I get out