[03:24:52] meh...looks like account creatoin is broken on prototype [03:28:08] *robla futzes [03:50:30] disabled captcha [15:26:00] Whoever scheduled the 1.17 rollout, thanks for putting it on my birthday [15:27:30] heh [15:27:36] Is it a nice present? ;) [15:27:52] I love it [15:27:54] Fatal error: Call to undefined method MediaWiki::getAction() in /srv/org/wikimedia/prototype/extensions/InputBox/InputBox.hooks.php on line 55 [15:28:19] Sounds deprecated [15:28:27] vvv: I remember seeing that error before.I think prototype may have an outdated version of the extension. [15:28:33] *Reedy looks [15:30:30] Refresh and try again? [15:30:52] Still broken [15:31:05] heh [15:31:14] Wonder if there's a trunk revision that needs backporting [15:32:05] Reedy: r78512? [15:32:14] Which prototype? [15:32:37] 1.17alpha (r81293) [15:32:42] is what it reckons.. [15:34:28] 1.17 branch seems to be the same as trunk Krinkle.. [15:37:05] hmmm [15:37:18] shouldn't $wgUploadStashScalerBaseUrl be part of the repo config instead of a global? [15:37:30] Reedy: http://prototype.wikimedia.org/ru.wikipedia.org/%D0%97%D0%B0%D0%B3%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0 [15:37:55] ? [15:38:04] Is it broken for you? [15:38:31] Is what? the page seems to load fine [15:38:32] r78512 is a revision that probably should be backported [15:38:38] !r 75812 [15:38:38] --elephant-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/75812 [15:38:58] Tag it/ [15:39:53] Oh wait [15:39:54] No [15:40:22] r78512 [15:40:26] !r 78512 [15:40:26] --elephant-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/78512 [15:40:53] Ah [15:40:54] Yes [15:41:50] It looks like the extension has been.. [15:41:56] Reedy: looks like part of this revision is on servers, and part is not [15:42:09] Yeah, this is slightly weird [15:44:28] !1.17 [15:44:28] --elephant-- I don't know anything about "1.17". [15:44:41] 77974 [15:44:58] There's nothing marked as followup, but that doesn't mean things haven't been merged for some other reason [15:46:24] not in a position to try and trace it back and forth at the moment [16:13:06] !1.17 is r77973 [16:13:06] --elephant-- Successfully added keyword: 1.17 [16:25:15] heh [16:57:08] I've been going through Trevors CR queue and picking off the ones I could review [16:57:38] We are going to be ready Thursday if I have anything to do with it :) [16:57:38] We'll just start beating him if he doesn't get on with it ;) [16:58:11] He's a West Coaster, so I'll give him SOME slack [17:00:06] Pfft, he has the same working day hours as most of us ;) [17:00:23] but maybe I should start looking at RoanKattouw's queue since it looks the longest [17:00:45] mainly trevors revs? [17:01:39] doesn't look like it [17:56:10] hexmode: Yeah I should start working again soon [17:56:24] God RoanKattouw, you're such a slacker. [17:56:26] I spent yesterday just recovering, and today doing random bits of paperwork that had piled up [17:56:30] I know, right [17:56:46] Apparently I owed the student load administration about $1300 [17:56:48] Anyone would think you've got other stuff to do [17:57:07] I found about that today, so I figured I'd pay them back [17:57:14] heh [17:57:28] RoanKattouw: let me know when you're done for the day and I'll go through your queue in order to clear out the mind-numbing stuff [17:57:29] I had my lanlord bitching at me about rent [17:57:30] : [17:57:33] :) [17:57:59] It's like, you wanted payment before the maintenance loan to cover it came in, I was out of the country, and then came back to exams and a funeral. Go away. [17:58:04] I don't think I'm gonna do any work today [17:58:13] Trevor's queue is down to 20 items now [17:58:20] Oh nice [17:58:24] RoanKattouw: I'll start poking at yours [17:58:34] I should be able to start tomorrow noonish my time [17:58:47] i.e. around sunrise EST [17:59:21] Maybe I'll review a few today [18:00:06] cool, just let me know ... I"m going to go look at the FIXMEs on the revision report [18:01:01] Have to get robla to update it for this morning ;) [18:01:20] robla: update your stats thingy :) [18:01:25] *robla happened to be working on exactly that [18:04:01] stats thingy update complete: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_roadmap/1.17/Revision_report [18:04:21] RoanKattouw_away: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/79345 ... obsolete replacment [18:04:26] *hexmode is looking for it [18:05:10] hexmode, ? [18:05:24] guess the next person I need to whip into shape after Roan is Chad [18:05:56] Reedy: I was just wondering what we're supposed to use in lieu of that function Roan removed [18:06:51] *werdna whips ^demon in his absence [18:08:07] thanks for stepping in, werdna! my arm was getting tired. [18:09:26] actually, fixmes are probably a bigger risk than the unreviewed at this point [18:10:03] we need to filter out some fixmes [18:10:11] any easy way to do that? [18:10:20] maybe....which ones and why? [18:12:28] r75007 ... b/c we don't care about SocialProfile [18:12:29] : [18:12:32] :) [18:13:16] Yauuie's fixme is related to SQL Server support [18:13:18] So we don't care [18:13:26] hexmode: let's start using a "nodeploy" tag for things that we don't plan to deploy [18:13:32] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/79345 b/c we don't care about YouTub extension [18:13:45] excellent [18:13:49] That's a point [18:13:52] ipv6 support... [18:14:12] *hexmode starts tagging everything nodeploy [18:14:18] ;) [18:14:33] (hopefully, people don't read that as "node ploy" [18:15:33] they won't get filtered out right away, but the change to the script shouldn't be too hard to make [18:21:08] robla, I've added another sql schema change bug onto the 1.17 deployment things... [18:24:31] robla: what about FIXME'S like r77869 ... no code change & its a commented out i18n msg [18:24:45] !r 77869 [18:24:45] --elephant-- http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/77869 [18:25:01] hexmode, it's an extension we don't care about [18:25:34] Reedy: !? its under 1.17 extensions ... :( [18:25:50] It's Distributed Semantic MediaWiki [18:26:01] "we" as in WMF don't care about it [18:26:36] ok [18:26:44] just trying to figure this out [18:26:55] gonna have to ask some more [18:27:04] hexmode: youtub? [18:27:14] youtube [18:27:21] but, youtub would be fun [18:27:27] sounds related to tubgirl [18:27:35] well... not YOURtub [18:28:17] I don't know any tubgirl ... and this is the internet. I don't think I want to. [18:33:53] robla, I've added another sql schema change bug onto the 1.17 deployment things... [18:33:55] Reedy: Which one> [18:34:09] Oh nm, I see it in -tech [18:34:14] RoanKattouw, WMF is still using VARBINARY(10) not VARBINARY(20) for ll_lang [18:34:21] It's about time we sorted that out [18:35:00] http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/81311 [18:35:06] So there's a standalone patch for it now [18:35:25] Just discussing with chad if we can find a nice way to insert it into the updaters for everyone else who might fall foul [18:36:25] Yeah, saw it and added to the RT ticket [18:36:32] Cheers [18:36:34] Need to poke Tim about doing those schema updates soonish [18:40:45] todayish :) [18:41:55] http://mediawiki.pastebin.com/X0PL7DFB [18:42:05] Reedy: what about PageObjectModel? [18:42:06] Thought fieldInfo might've told me something nice about the length of it :( [18:42:20] hexmode, you can use http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/branches/wmf/1.16wmf4/extensions/ as a rough guide :) [18:42:23] Do we care (and how do I tell)? [18:42:55] gotcha [18:43:00] If the extension is in that list, we use it [19:00:34] Updated list is in /trunk/tools/make-wmf-branch/default.conf [19:00:48] alolita: Which ext for the meeting? [19:03:43] jorm, werdna: Do you know if the features meeting has started yet, and which extension we call into? [19:04:23] It's 2003 [19:04:25] Lucky guess [19:04:32] guillom: 2003 [19:04:38] thanks Roan-meeting [19:04:42] I just tried 2002 [19:04:45] No one would tell me, so I guessed 2003 [19:06:33] robla: I won't be calling into the 1.17 meeting today, since it's at 10:15pm my time and I have to get up at 5:45am [19:06:45] robla: ...but I'll send you a status by e-mail [19:08:45] robla: Also, if you've got a shift assignment ready (even a draft), I'd like to see it [19:24:51] *robla works on shift assignments now [19:27:45] OK [19:27:59] I'm looking at this exam resit on the morning of the 9th [19:28:37] So it'd be nice if I wouldn't have post-deployment duty before 1 or 2pm CET on the 9th [19:29:14] (It's a vanity thing, I've already passed the course, but if I wanna get into a nice grad school I could use an extra few points) [19:29:47] We're not allowed resits to boost marks, only if you failed it [19:30:19] My uni doesn't care. They let you resit as many times as you want and count the highest grade [19:30:26] lol [19:30:28] nice [19:30:44] Of course there's only two chances per year, so you can't resit that many times in practice [19:30:51] Esp. for latter-year courses [19:35:00] <^demon> You can retake courses as many times as you want at VCU, but you can only drop the grade with a later one if you made a D or lower. [19:35:29] <^demon> So if you get a C or above, the university will *let* you retake a course, but there's no grade-affecting reason to do so. [19:36:03] here's the first cut: http://eiximenis.wikimedia.org/p9EzsqtJln ...I haven't yet taken into account the Roan's exam resit [19:36:33] I'm not scheduled for that day at lal [19:36:36] So it's fine [19:36:45] xlnt [19:37:12] Oh look I've got first shift [19:37:18] :) [19:37:54] Pft and you've given me the 8-16 shift twice :D [19:38:45] *robla would be delighted to see some trading around and volunteering [19:39:18] <^demon> ugh i hate timezones. [19:39:21] <^demon> and dst. [19:39:28] I'm not going to be far away from a computer on any of those days... [19:39:28] *^demon does math [19:39:34] ^demon: handy key on the bottom [19:40:05] Guess I can't complain, I have a nice 9-5 work day with those shifts [19:40:29] <^demon> robla: I think you're conflicting with one of my classes on Wednesday [19:40:45] ^demon: doh! [19:40:52] *robla looks to trade things [19:41:02] <^demon> Yup, I'm unavailable from 4-7EST on Mon/Wed [19:41:25] robla: What about ops people? Devs are powerless without ops to help them deploy [19:41:39] *some devs [19:41:41] ;) [19:41:41] With the exception of Tim (who is dev+ops) and me (cause I have shell access) [19:41:48] <^demon> And I, and Priyanka. [19:41:52] <^demon> Andrew [19:42:03] Does Priyanka have shell access to the Apaches? [19:42:06] I know Andrew does [19:42:08] I think you do [19:42:10] <^demon> As of yesterday [19:42:18] <^demon> Priyanka ^ [19:42:18] Sam also doesn't have access AFIAK [19:42:20] Oh [19:42:31] OK well but she probably hasn't deployed anything yet [19:42:39] <^demon> 18:33 RobH: updated puppet to move user pdhanda into mortals group, able to push apache config changes [19:42:47] Kinda scary to deploy a vital fix if you're not even sure how [19:42:48] I've got access to some machines, but I've no idea what rights I've got... [19:42:59] this is mainly to be dev-on-call for ops. I'm assuming ops will have a separate list [19:43:03] Right [19:43:10] priyanka and i are doing shell requests tomorrow for her to get up to speed on them [19:43:17] OK [19:43:35] Is there any left? ;) [19:44:23] There's a FlaggedRevs bug I was nagged about yesterday [19:44:29] (Enable FlaggedRevs on ..wiki [19:44:35] so jens, myself, river, mark, domas, tomas, tim, ariel, ryan, andrew, awj, roan, nimish, rfault, zak, chad, and hashar [19:44:47] are the folks who can push changes to apaches [19:44:59] (fyi) [19:45:01] And Priyanka, right? [19:45:02] heh. what a gratuitous page [19:45:04] oh, and now priyanka, yes [19:46:03] Reedy: You are in the restricted group, which means your rights are limited to a particular subset of machines. Basically any server that imports your record individually, as well as some small misc clusters. [19:46:38] <^demon> Ok, off to replace my phone, yet again. [19:47:07] <^demon|away> This is becoming like a ritual every 6 months or so. I'd like it to stop. [19:47:38] RobH, cheers [20:17:34] What to do when you're bored ? Write a script to access the last entry in a mailinglist with a permalink [20:17:39] http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/tmp/getWMML.php?list=wikitech-l&action=lastentry [20:18:04] http://toolserver.org/~krinkle/tmp/getWMML.php?list=wikitech-l&action=thismonth [20:19:00] yeah, someone proposing to fix a social problem with a technical solution! (I'm referring to the post, not your tool) [20:22:30] (moved outside /tmp now) [21:12:36] ping hexmode, TimStarling, alolita, RoanKattouw, ^demon, TrevorParscal - 1.17 scrum [21:13:45] robla: As I said before, not attending [21:13:48] I should be in bed already [21:13:54] sorry RoanKattouw: forgot [21:14:08] No worries [21:14:23] I intend to start doing 1.17 work in earnest tomorrow noonish my time [21:14:46] Priorities being: 1.17 merge queue, creating 1.17wmf1 branch, tackling review queue [21:15:40] packet loss [21:16:41] <^demon> I can't hear a thing Priyanka is saying. [21:16:46] I'm getting typing sounds but not priyanka [21:17:09] As for work done: I've been recovering from travel and handling paperwork that piled up (I got a ~$8k tax bill and found out in surprise that I owed the student loan administration $1300, fun times), so I haven't done any work since getting back from SF [21:18:32] <^demon> (I hope someone is summarizing this on Etherpad or something, cuz Rob's the only person I've heard) [21:19:20] that's better, maybe it was just gain control [21:26:41] hmmm...maybe I need to reserve a room that has a better speakerphone [21:27:48] robla: were you in the room with them? [21:28:02] yeah, I was [21:28:39] R2 and R4 don't have very good speakerphones [21:29:03] they seem to go silent when the input volume gets too low [21:29:17] I guess to reduce noise [21:29:47] Get one with a real speakerphone rather than a desk phone [21:29:47] we should move the phone meetings to the room with the good polycom [21:30:04] R5 i think [21:40:09] <^demon> Ok, I have to run to campus for a few hrs to get some work done. robla: if you guys haven't nailed down the noindex bug by the time I get back, that'll be my #1 priority. It's not a crippling issue, so it can live for a few more hours at worst. [21:40:40] ^demon: thanks for letting me know about that [21:41:10] <^demon> Thank Roan and others for pinging me :p [22:27:05] robla, 1.17 will also bring improvements in less parser cache fragmentation [22:27:07] I don't know if users will notice that or not [22:27:19] maybe those with odd preferences will [23:51:45] for my controversial content designs, i'm going to use the page "pokemon" [23:52:02] and I'm going to put the page in the category of "Gladiator Movies" [23:56:43] Roan?