[00:23:50] TrevorParscal: Neat. :-) [00:23:55] Oh, he left. [00:23:58] Well, still neat. [01:55:35] The husband was a hard working man 'till a mile and a half from here. His head was found in a driving wheel and his body never was found. [02:01:53] > study for class? nah, I don't read that media, just flex my wikipedia. FREE WEEZY [07:26:18] uhhuh [16:25:00] pdhanda: Which channel is that IRC meeting in? [16:25:34] mediawiki [16:26:01] OK [18:47:25] RoanKattouw: I appreciate the thoughtfulness of your wikitech-l post [18:47:47] Thanks [18:47:55] You previously said not to change a thing, so I didn't :) [18:50:10] :) [18:50:40] how's it going? [18:50:57] what are you poking at today? [18:51:11] Catching up on a few days of absence mostly [18:51:17] right on [18:51:23] bug+SVN backlog grew to ~200 [18:51:31] Gotta catch up on some of Neil's CR [18:51:58] This morning, I got Brandon his survey data, and was in half of the Selenium meeting on Priyanka's request [18:52:04] I mostly spent that half hour reviewing her code [18:52:42] yes, thanks for that! [18:52:45] and for the email. [18:52:52] i'm not sure the survey has a lot of value, though. [18:53:02] there are many obvious "haters" in there. [18:54:52] jorm: maybe if you change the name they will start liking it [18:55:05] s/change the name/change the name again/ [18:55:11] and again! [18:55:25] I'll call it the Article Awesomeness Indexer! [18:58:28] Brought to you by the Pan-wiki Perfection Initiative? [19:02:21] hells yeah. [19:02:29] ugh, pending changes. [19:02:49] i am writing this documentation and possibly putting a noose around my neck doing so. [19:03:58] :( [19:04:16] Hey so what was Danese talkng about yesterday as to the layout of those hotel rooms? [19:04:33] There was something about a division and one person being in the other's walkway [19:04:42] But the call quality kinda failed on me and I was sleept [19:04:44] *sleepy [19:04:59] yeah, that's how they are. [19:05:39] (the document i'm working on is on officewiki, if you wanna read what i mean. i'm basically saying "the community consensus is totally, completely wrong and retarded" but trying to be nice about it.) [19:05:45] haha [19:05:59] and it is totally, completely wrong and retarded. [19:06:29] i can only imagine trying to explain the behavior to my mom and i'm shuddering just thinking about it. [19:06:32] So what did I hear about sleeping on sofas/couches? [19:06:50] there's a bedroom with a closing door, and then a pull out bed on the couch. [19:07:08] whoever is on the couch may be bothered by people moving around. [19:07:11] which reminds me. [19:07:13] OK [19:07:27] TrevorParscal: i'll just take the sofa. i take sleeping pills so tend to go out like a rock. [19:07:40] So each 2-person room consists of a shared room with a pull-out bed and a separate bedroom? [19:09:00] Hm so I'll have to fight JP over that too. Might be able to convince him to take the sofa arguing he goes to sleep like 2 hours later than me during weekends [19:09:05] jorm: thanks! I don't sleep well when I travel, so that might help [19:09:47] s/when I travel/except in rare cases/ is my understanding :) [19:09:57] well, i'll have a pharmacy, so if you have a problem sleeping i can hook you up. i know that your body is a temple and all, but you've not slept until you've tried military grade valium. [19:10:14] ha ha [19:10:16] i have near crippling insomnia. [19:10:23] I have mild insomnia [19:10:28] it's basically a side-effect of my hyper aggressive ADD. [19:10:33] I think sleeping pills are overkill for me [19:10:35] It's a hackathon, we /expect/ Trevor to stay up coding until at least 3 [19:10:41] I just need to do yoga before bed or something [19:10:45] you mean until 6. [19:10:53] he stays up until 3 anyway. but that's SF-local. [19:10:54] 6am ET = 3am PT so yes [19:11:01] let's be honest, I'm not going to be sleeping very much [19:11:13] No one does [19:11:17] let's be honest, i'm going to be totally blitzed. [19:11:18] But our definitions of 'not much' vary [19:11:28] yeah... [19:11:41] I always feel like I get little sleep at Wikimanias and Berlin confs [19:11:49] I used to be nocturnal prior to getting married [19:11:50] cripes. i think this feature just needs to be pared down to the bone and rebuilt, steve austin style. [19:11:54] But compared to you or some other people it's a lot [19:12:07] a couple years ago, i had the "Fight Club" conversation with my doctor. [19:12:25] *RoanKattouw is too young to get that [19:12:29] jorm: steve austin... wow... that just happened.. [19:12:36] i was having these really weird heart palpitation things going on. just crazy heart beats. [19:13:00] doctor checked me out; i had all the monitors, blood work, etc. [19:13:19] diagnosis: i have a super healthy liver and stuff. i could survive on beer and butter for years. but i had a lot of stress. [19:13:39] and then he says "You need to get some sleep. Like, for real. I don't know that you've actually been to sleep in several years." [19:14:04] because my natural cycle is "sleep for 2 hours, awake for 4, sleep for 2, etc." Makes me nocturnal. [19:14:15] so he gave me some stuff to knock me out and holy crap what a difference. [19:14:24] I'm totally the reverse of that [19:14:31] you're young. [19:14:40] when i was your age, i was sleeping 14 hours a day. [19:14:47] My natural cycle is significantly longer than 24 hours [19:14:53] i was also living in west virginia, where we don't have city noise. [19:14:55] Like in the XKCD about the 19/9 schedule [19:15:14] i tried to do that 20 hours/4 hours thing for a while but that didn't work out so much. [19:15:19] That's why I can deal with 6- or 9-hour westbound jetlag no problem [19:15:27] RoanKattouw: I'm with you on that schedule [19:15:30] Oh I couldn't do that. My body wants to stay up long, then sleep long [19:15:42] if I get to bed early, I wake up at a normal time, then stay up all night the next day [19:15:56] So when I fly to SF, I get a 33-hour day and I'm happy. OK maybe 33 is overkill, but it feels better than 24 [19:16:16] I'm not as extreme as you, Trevor [19:16:33] But I do tend to shift my schedule a lot between weekends and work days [19:16:46] On school days, I basically sleep 11-6 [19:16:49] me, extreme, you're crazy! [19:16:58] As opposed to, say, 1-10 if I could choose [19:17:41] I also can't really sleep before 10 at the very very earliest, so I cannot get enough sleep when I have to get up at 6:15 [19:18:04] So I build up lots of sleep debt (that term is for real, actually) and weeks with 4 or 5 of those 6:15 days kill me [19:19:34] b [21:13:06] robla: ping? [21:13:22] what did you want me to name the page where i'm putting my comps and design documentation? [21:13:27] (for pc november) [21:15:30] jorm: any subpage of http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pending_Changes_enwiki_trial is fine [21:15:54] *robla is just at keyboard for sec [21:16:59] gonna put it at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Pending_Changes_enwiki_trial/NovemberReleaseDesignChanges [21:17:01] then. [21:18:38] it's there now, with comps. [21:18:46] i probably cut too many, but i'm comp-happy.