[02:23:53] 10Growth-Team, 10English-Wikipedia-New-Pages-Patrol, 10PageCuration: Page Creation Toolbar cannot be enabled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265112 (10JavaHurricane) Looks like someone has added a new "Open Page Curation" option under the "Tools" header of the left-side menu. Thanks to whoever has added... [02:24:45] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10DiscussionTools, 10Editing-team: Take the users to the exact location of the comment when clicking on a mention notification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253082 (10ppelberg) >>! In T253082#6271002, @Esanders wrote: > As we move from just adding reply links to addin... [02:28:38] 10Growth-Team, 10English-Wikipedia-New-Pages-Patrol, 10PageCuration: Page Creation Toolbar cannot be enabled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265112 (10JJMC89) 05Open→03Invalid The link was renamed in {f431ab61aa83} for {T207982}. [05:45:59] 10Growth-Team, 10DBA, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link engineering: Determine format for accessing and storing link recommendations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261411 (10Marostegui) >>! In T261411#6536246, @kostajh wrote: >> And the plan is to roll that out everywhere after Q2? > > Well, we cu... [10:35:36] (03PS11) 10Kosta Harlan: Convert node-qunit to qunit [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/632440 [10:43:31] (03PS1) 10Kosta Harlan: SuggestedEdits: Center blue dot on desktop [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633708 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265262) [10:49:56] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link: Engineering tasks for intial release - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261396 (10kostajh) [10:50:07] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks, 10Patch-For-Review: Add a link engineering: Prototype using VisualEditor's data model libraries for rendering sections of wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261398 (10kostajh) 05Open→03Stalled Until we finalize the ideas about using offsets or not, let... [10:54:08] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Move mwaddlink-api from github to gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261403 (10kostajh) @MGerlach how does the following sound to you: 1. take https://github.com/martingerlach/mwaddlink-query and move utility methods from https://github.com/dedcode/mwaddlink... [11:04:09] 10Growth-Team, 10DBA, 10Operations: Move echo tables from local wiki databases onto extension1 cluster for mediawikiwiki, metawiki, and officewiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119154 (10LSobanski) 05Open→03Declined We consider this task to be very risky and with the limited gain suggest against g... [11:07:33] 10Growth-Team, 10DBA, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link engineering: Determine format for accessing and storing link recommendations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261411 (10kostajh) >>! In T261411#6537727, @Marostegui wrote: >> Good to know. Do we have the same problem if we use the denormalized... [11:10:41] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link: Engineering tasks for intial release - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261396 (10kostajh) [11:10:45] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link: Set up link recommendation testing environment with Cloud VPS and existing notebook code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261401 (10kostajh) 05Stalled→03Declined Let's focus on the production environment instead. [11:15:08] 10Growth-Team, 10DBA, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link engineering: Determine format for accessing and storing link recommendations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261411 (10Marostegui) Thanks for the comment. Then, I reckon we do need to think about the denormalized approach as the only approach w... [11:21:43] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, and 3 others: "Notices" hitbox overlaps "alerts" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264339 (10ovasileva) p:05Triage→03High [11:24:22] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments-NewcomerTasks: Calculate estimated requests per second to mwaddlink-query - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265345 (10kostajh) [11:51:16] 10Growth-Team, 10DBA, 10Data-Persistence, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link engineering: Determine format for accessing and storing link recommendations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261411 (10Marostegui) [12:23:08] 10Growth-Team-Leftovers, 10GrowthExperiments, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint): [Leftovers] Newcomer homepage: Visual design improvements to the homepage layout on Desktop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264462 (10kostajh) a:05RHo→03kostajh [12:39:21] (03PS1) 10Kosta Harlan: [WIP] Refactor desktop layout for homepage [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633734 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264462) [12:42:39] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: My wikidata watchlist is impossible to be emptied - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265347 (10Bugreporter) [12:47:44] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Refactor desktop layout for homepage [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633734 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264462) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [13:31:30] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikibaseClient, 10Wikidata: New watchlist/recent changes: Have an option to hide Wikidata edits by experienced and/or flood-flagged users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T187680 (10GoEThe) [13:35:17] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Move mwaddlink-api from github to gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261403 (10MGerlach) @kostajh > 1. take https://github.com/martingerlach/mwaddlink-query and move utility methods from https://github.com/dedcode/mwaddlink into it > 1. maybe that involves... [13:42:26] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Move mwaddlink-query from github to gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261403 (10MGerlach) [13:52:44] (03CR) 10Rho: [C: 03+2] SuggestedEdits: Center blue dot on desktop [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633708 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265262) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [14:01:07] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: SuggestedEdits: Center blue dot on desktop [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633708 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265262) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [15:54:34] (03Abandoned) 10Urbanecm: Allow autoconfirmed to execute Special:ClaimMentee [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/573331 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) (owner: 10Urbanecm) [15:56:55] (03PS1) 10Urbanecm: Allow people who are not "fulltime mentors" to use Special:ClaimMentee [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) [16:00:34] 10Growth-Team-Leftovers, 10GrowthExperiments-MentorshipModule, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint), 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Urbanecm_WMF: Allow anyone to claim a mentee - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639 (10Urbanecm_WMF) I talked about this one with @MMiller_WMF at my last meeting. He said that th... [16:04:57] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Allow people who are not "fulltime mentors" to use Special:ClaimMentee [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) (owner: 10Urbanecm) [16:05:17] (03PS2) 10Urbanecm: Allow people who are not "fulltime mentors" to use Special:ClaimMentee [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) [16:06:24] (03PS3) 10Urbanecm: Allow people who are not "fulltime mentors" to use Special:ClaimMentee [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) [16:15:02] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Allow people who are not "fulltime mentors" to use Special:ClaimMentee [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) (owner: 10Urbanecm) [17:43:47] 10Growth-Team, 10DBA, 10Data-Persistence, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link engineering: Determine format for accessing and storing link recommendations - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261411 (10Tgr) We are going to have separate tables for each wiki, right? And, at least with the current approach... [17:48:22] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link: Set up link recommendation testing environment with Cloud VPS and existing notebook code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261401 (10Tgr) We might want to do this for deployment-prep (beta cluster) at least. The way ORES does it is they have a testing mo... [18:31:05] (03CR) 10Nray: [C: 03+2] "Note the text that is part of the notifications icon ever so slightly overlaps the talk page link:" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633244 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264339) (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [18:41:15] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GettingStarted, 10JavaScript, 10Wikimedia-production-error: Uncaught TypeError: $.throttle is not a function in displayToolbar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T263897 (10Jdlrobson) [19:34:01] 10Growth-Team, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10VisualEditor, 10Wikimedia-production-error: "TypeError: surface is null" on Flow page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134992 (10Jdlrobson) Not just Flow pages. https://logstash.wikimedia.org/app/kibana#/doc/logstash-*/logstash-2020.10.13/clienterror/?id=AXUi-... [19:36:22] 10Growth-Team, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10VisualEditor, 10JavaScript, 10Wikimedia-production-error: "TypeError: surface is null" on Flow page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134992 (10Umherirrender) [19:42:17] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Revert "Make variant D the default, and remove variant A" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633756 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265372) [19:43:18] (03CR) 10Kosta Harlan: [C: 03+2] Revert "Make variant D the default, and remove variant A" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633756 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265372) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [19:50:03] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10serviceops: Move mwaddlink-query from github to gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261403 (10kostajh) > if you help me with requesting a gerrit-repo that would be great (no experience with that yet). also Pinging #release-eng... [19:51:42] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10serviceops: Move mwaddlink-query from github to gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261403 (10Dzahn) >>! In T261403#6538868, @MGerlach wrote: > if you help me with requesting a gerrit-repo that would be great (no experience wit... [19:55:11] 10Growth-Team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Change Growth features parameters on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265214 (10Catrope) > would it be possible to increase the wgGEHelpPanelHelpDeskTitle for ptwiki to 100%? I'm assuming you mean `wgGEHomepageNewAccountEnablePercentage`, whic... [20:01:46] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Nit: would be nice to have a less technical variable/method/concept name. Optional mentors? Reserve mentors?" (031 comment) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) (owner: 10Urbanecm) [20:02:25] 10Growth-Team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Change Growth features parameters on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265214 (10Catrope) Related task: {T265404} [20:16:02] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Drop text indent in modern Vector [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633244 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264339) (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [20:16:32] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Hm, did this get stuck?" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633756 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265372) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:16:50] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 03+2] "Per Kosta" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633756 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265372) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:20:56] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Make variant D the default, and remove variant A" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633756 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265372) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:21:56] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 03+1] Convert node-qunit to qunit (031 comment) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/632440 (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [20:21:58] (03PS2) 10Jdlrobson: Drop text indent in modern Vector [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633244 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264339) [20:23:51] (03PS1) 10Catrope: Revert "Make variant D the default, and remove variant A" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] (wmf/1.36.0-wmf.13) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633757 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265372) [20:35:14] (03CR) 10Urbanecm: Allow people who are not "fulltime mentors" to use Special:ClaimMentee (032 comments) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) (owner: 10Urbanecm) [20:36:16] (03PS4) 10Urbanecm: Allow people who are not "fulltime mentors" to use Special:ClaimMentee [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) [20:37:10] (03CR) 10Urbanecm: "> Patch Set 3:" (031 comment) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) (owner: 10Urbanecm) [20:44:50] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Allow people who are not "fulltime mentors" to use Special:ClaimMentee [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) (owner: 10Urbanecm) [20:48:55] 10Growth-Team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Change Growth features parameters on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265214 (10MMiller_WMF) @Trizek-WMF can help sort this out and explain how the Growth team is thinking about this. [20:53:08] (03CR) 10Jdlrobson: [C: 03+2] Drop text indent in modern Vector [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633244 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264339) (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [20:57:20] 10Growth-Team-Leftovers, 10Growth-Team (Current Sprint): Redirects should be followed when posting to help desk - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265404 (10MMiller_WMF) [21:12:30] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Drop text indent in modern Vector [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633244 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264339) (owner: 10Jdlrobson) [21:56:07] 10Growth-Team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Change Growth features parameters on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265214 (10Albertoleoncio) >Setting it to 100% is possible, but having 20% of new users not get the homepage is deliberate, so as to create a control group for the experiment.... [22:05:29] (03PS1) 10Catrope: Help panel: Add a pending effect on the "Post" button [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633839 [22:33:01] (03PS2) 10Catrope: Help panel: Add a pending effect on the "Post" button [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633839 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265422) [22:33:55] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Vector, and 3 others: "Notices" hitbox overlaps "alerts" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T264339 (10Jdlrobson) This should be fixed. @ovasileva @MMiller_WMF we should QA this and potentially backport it, but it would be good to be clear which te... [22:41:35] (03PS3) 10Catrope: Help panel: Add pending effect when submitting question [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633839 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265422) [22:53:59] 10Growth-Team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Change Growth features parameters on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265214 (10Catrope) >>! In T265214#6540686, @Albertoleoncio wrote: >>Setting it to 100% is possible, but having 20% of new users not get the homepage is deliberate, so as to c... [22:57:44] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments-Homepage, 10GrowthExperiments-NewcomerTasks: [mobile] variant C - make transition between overlays smoother - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265427 (10Etonkovidova) [23:00:46] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 03+2] Revert "Make variant D the default, and remove variant A" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] (wmf/1.36.0-wmf.13) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633757 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265372) (owner: 10Catrope) [23:05:58] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks, 10Release-Engineering-Team, 10serviceops: Move mwaddlink-query from github to gerrit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261403 (10thcipriani) >>! In T261403#6540180, @kostajh wrote: >> if you help me with requesting a gerrit-repo that would be great (no experienc... [23:08:09] (03PS4) 10Catrope: Help panel: Add pending effect when submitting question [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633839 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265422) [23:12:24] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Revert "Make variant D the default, and remove variant A" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] (wmf/1.36.0-wmf.13) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/633757 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265372) (owner: 10Catrope) [23:24:14] 10Growth-Team, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10Patch-For-Review: Change Growth features parameters on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T265214 (10Catrope) I ended up reaching @Albertoleoncio on IRC, and we successfully moved the help desk together.