[07:13:12] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: Allow autoconfirmed to execute Special:ClaimMentee (031 comment) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/573331 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245639) (owner: 10Urbanecm) [09:13:49] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Demian) >>! In T261133#6441236, @Ladsgroup wrote: >>>! In T261133#6441217, @Demian wrote: >> And [[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Ladsgroup|Ladsgroup]] declining the tas... [10:22:17] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GettingStarted, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt: Improve GettingStarted data storage strategy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158239 (10jijiki) [12:33:51] (03PS1) 10Kosta Harlan: Add isUserinVariant method [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625888 [12:33:53] (03PS1) 10Kosta Harlan: [WIP] Suggested Edits: Variant C, add info icon [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625889 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258020) [12:34:06] (03PS2) 10Kosta Harlan: Utils: Add isUserinVariant method [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625888 [12:34:08] (03PS2) 10Kosta Harlan: [WIP] Suggested Edits: Variant C, add info icon [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625889 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258020) [12:36:03] (03PS3) 10Kosta Harlan: [WIP] Suggested Edits: Variant C, add info icon [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625889 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258020) [12:47:48] 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 10Growth-Team, 10Google-Summer-of-Code (2020), 10User-notice: Add Reverted filter to RecentChanges Filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164307 (10Trizek-WMF) When this will be ready for release, it would worth a li... [12:53:23] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Polish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254239 (10Trizek-WMF) [12:53:30] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Polish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254239 (10Trizek-WMF) a:03Catrope Ok, let's go with it. :) I'm assigning this task to @Catrope, who will do the configuration. He will let you know when everything will be ready to set a release date. >>! In T2542... [13:09:47] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: The Echo extension personalUrl hook should use a string and not an array for css class - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262160 (10Ammarpad) You should provide stack trace as well as versions of Echo and MW that you're using. [14:24:17] (03PS4) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested Edits: Variant C, add info icon [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625889 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258020) [14:28:25] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Suggested Edits: Set filter icon max width to 20px [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625919 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262018) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [14:40:26] (03PS1) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested Edits: Footer fills flush to bottom [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625923 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262032) [14:40:29] (03PS1) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested edits: Decrease space between pager and card [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625924 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262032) [14:44:26] (03PS2) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested Edits: Set filter icon max width to 20px [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625919 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262018) [14:44:28] (03PS2) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested Edits: Footer fills flush to bottom [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625923 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262032) [14:44:30] (03PS2) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested edits: Decrease space between pager and card [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625924 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262032) [14:46:16] (03PS3) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested Edits: Footer fills flush to bottom [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625923 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262032) [14:46:18] (03PS3) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested edits: Decrease space between pager and card [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625924 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262032) [14:46:20] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Suggested Edits: Footer fills flush to bottom [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625923 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262032) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [14:46:46] (03PS3) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested Edits: Set filter icon max width to 20px [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625919 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262018) [14:46:48] (03PS4) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested Edits: Footer fills flush to bottom [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625923 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262032) [14:46:51] (03PS4) 10Kosta Harlan: Suggested edits: Decrease space between pager and card [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625924 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262032) [14:51:23] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255027 (10Trizek-WMF) Hello Anything new here? How can I help you? [14:55:56] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255027 (10GoEThe) Eleven people signed up as interested last time I checked. Is that enough to start a trial? [15:13:54] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255027 (10Trizek-WMF) >>! In T255027#6443111, @GoEThe wrote: > Eleven people signed up as interested last time I checked. Is that enough to start a trial? You mean some people volunteered to be mentors? To set e... [15:17:42] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255027 (10GoEThe) Hmm, OK. I will check how to set that up next week. I am on my phone at the moment. [15:18:51] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Portuguese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255027 (10Trizek-WMF) No problem! :) Maybe someone else could assist you? [15:48:01] (03PS1) 10Jgiannelos: Normalize eps_topic [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625928 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261756) [15:49:49] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Normalize eps_topic [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625928 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261756) (owner: 10Jgiannelos) [17:01:51] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] eslint cleanup [extensions/WikiLove] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/622888 (owner: 10Esanders) [17:54:32] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Darwinius) >>! In T261133#6412345, @Tgr wrote: > Suggesting changes to founding principles, or asking that a certain project be exempted from them, is a valid discussion for... [18:18:44] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Ladsgroup) Request of enabling CAPTCHA for IP edits in ptwiki was similarly declined on 2013 by Deputy Director of WMF at the time on similar grounds: T51860#589243 ptwiki is... [18:24:10] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 04-1] "This is OK, but IMO it would be nicer to do the caching in a decorator class (similar to" (031 comment) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/623768 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260758) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [18:32:34] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Aklapper) >>! In T261133#6443731, @Darwinius wrote: > I don't recall anyone from wiki.pt being forced to ask the "global community" if we could implement the local upload of... [18:32:50] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: Task suggester: Add parameter for emptying cache (031 comment) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625611 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260758) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [18:32:53] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Darwinius) >>! In T261133#6443814, @Ladsgroup wrote: > Request of enabling CAPTCHA for IP edits in ptwiki was similarly declined on 2013 by Deputy Director of WMF at the time... [18:37:05] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 04-1] Newcomer tasks: Warm cache for variant C users (031 comment) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/623776 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260758) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [18:37:09] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Majavah) >>! In T261133#6443878, @Darwinius wrote: > Another very alarming, dangerous and worrisome thing: Anyone editing unregistered at wiki.pt both through the Wikipedia a... [18:40:18] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Darwinius) >>! In T261133#6443906, @Majavah wrote: >>>! In T261133#6443878, @Darwinius wrote: >> Another very alarming, dangerous and worrisome thing: Anyone editing unregist... [18:44:02] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Majavah) >>! In T261133#6443911, @Darwinius wrote: >>>! In T261133#6443906, @Majavah wrote: >> [...] > > No, it does not. I just tested (again), and nothing of that sort app... [18:45:57] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Darwinius) >>! In T261133#6443939, @Majavah wrote: >>>! In T261133#6443911, @Darwinius wrote: >>>>! In T261133#6443906, @Majavah wrote: >>> [...] >> >> No, it does not. I ju... [18:51:55] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Darwinius) >>! In T261133#6443939, @Majavah wrote: >>>! In T261133#6443911, @Darwinius wrote: >>>>! In T261133#6443906, @Majavah wrote: >>> [...] >> >> No, it does not. I ju... [18:52:49] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Urbanecm) Keep in mind the only way to get sysadmins to deploy this is to present an approval from the Board - there is no sense in discussing validity of IP editing in this... [19:00:04] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Aklapper) Please split potentially non-working IP exposure warnings into a separate conversation not in this ticket. Thanks a lot. [19:07:43] (03PS1) 10Catrope: Add special page aliases for Polish (pl) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625958 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254239) [19:28:54] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Dcljr) >>! In T261133#6443731, @Darwinius wrote: > This is not a "policy" debate. This is about a (still eventual, though probable) community decision. That's the problem: y... [19:35:24] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 04-1] Cache newcomer tasks per user (032 comments) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/623768 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260758) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [19:38:44] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 04-1] "The linked task says "When the user requests tasks, use a DB query to validate that the relevant maintenance templates are still present i" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/623768 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260758) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [19:39:52] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments-Help panel, 10GrowthExperiments-Homepage, 10Wikimedia-production-error: UserNotLoggedIn exception: ⧼User must be logged-in.⧽ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261710 (10Krinkle) [19:41:24] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 04-1] "Typically we use the growthtasks API as a generator. Generators are pretty expensive, they query all the pages returned by the underlying " [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/623768 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T260758) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [19:43:02] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 03+2] Add special page aliases for Polish (pl) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625958 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254239) (owner: 10Catrope) [19:46:28] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Darwinius) >>! In T261133#6444121, @Dcljr wrote: >>>! In T261133#6443731, @Darwinius wrote: > You have suggested that several things need to be improved (e.g., the things th... [19:52:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add special page aliases for Polish (pl) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/625958 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254239) (owner: 10Catrope) [20:25:28] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments-Help panel, 10GrowthExperiments-Homepage, 10Wikimedia-production-error: UserNotLoggedIn exception: ⧼User must be logged-in.⧽ - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261710 (10Tgr) In a web context, UserNotLoggedIn is handled automatically and does not reach Logstash. I guess... [20:35:07] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Tgr) For background on captchas at registration, see {T241921}. It's an unfortunate situation, but there is no easy way to improve it. [20:48:05] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Darwinius) >>! In T261133#6444390, @Tgr wrote: > For background on captchas at registration, see {T241921}. It's an unfortunate situation, but there is no easy way to improve... [21:08:02] (03PS4) 10DannyS712: Merge PageTriageExternalDeletionTagsOptions into ExternalTagOptions [extensions/PageTriage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/604843 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221269) [21:08:32] 10Growth-Team, 10PageCuration, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Performance-Team (Radar), 10User-DannyS712: Reduce module registrations from PageTriage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221269 (10DannyS712) >>! In T221269#5168439, @JTannerWMF wrote: > This isn't within scope right now but we may work on it later... [21:10:54] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Tgr) The captcha conditions for IP editors and non-autoconfirmed editors are identical (inserting external links). Admins can manually confirm new users, that might be a wort... [21:46:54] 10Growth-Team, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Ban IP editions on pt.wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T261133 (10Darwinius) >>! In T261133#6444511, @Tgr wrote: > The captcha conditions for IP editors and non-autoconfirmed editors are identical (inserting external links). Admins can manu... [22:10:28] 10Growth-Team, 10Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, 10Research (FY2020-21-Research-July-September): Image suggestion proof-of-concept - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256081 (10MMiller_WMF) @Miriam -- I added a comment about the results of the evaluation here: T260857#6444769. Please check them out! Next,... [23:34:03] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10Wikimedia-production-error: TypeError: item.getID is not a function in RCFilters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262356 (10Jdlrobson) [23:34:44] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes: Recent Changes/Watchlist - click on empty 'Saved filters" give "item.getID is not a function" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256923 (10Jdlrobson) [23:34:49] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10Wikimedia-production-error: TypeError: item.getID is not a function in RCFilters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T262356 (10Jdlrobson) [23:35:22] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10Wikimedia-production-error: Recent Changes/Watchlist - click on empty 'Saved filters" give "item.getID is not a function" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256923 (10Jdlrobson) https://logstash.wikimedia.org/app/kibana#/doc/logstash-*/logstash-2020.09.08/client...