[00:28:15] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: homepage layout changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258005 (10Catrope) [00:28:40] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: homepage layout changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258005 (10Catrope) [00:42:36] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: smaller start module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258008 (10Catrope) [00:43:10] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: smaller start module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258008 (10Catrope) @RHo could you address this question? > What should the start module look like in each of the three email states? The mockups show the "email set but unconfirmed" state, but what should... [00:43:31] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: smaller start module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258008 (10Catrope) [00:43:58] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: smaller start module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258008 (10Catrope) [00:45:35] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: homepage layout changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258005 (10Catrope) [00:45:37] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant tests: "initiation part 2" test (C vs. D) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246533 (10Catrope) [00:45:42] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant tests: "initiation part 2" test (C vs. D) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246533 (10Catrope) [00:45:44] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: smaller start module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258008 (10Catrope) [00:59:45] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C (desktop): welcome popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258009 (10Catrope) [01:04:09] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C (mobile): welcome peek drawer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258010 (10Catrope) [04:29:54] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C (desktop): welcome popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258009 (10Catrope) [04:36:15] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant D: welcome banner - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258015 (10Catrope) [04:37:02] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C (mobile): welcome peek drawer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258010 (10Catrope) [04:37:11] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C (desktop): welcome popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258009 (10Catrope) [04:37:33] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant D: welcome banner - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258015 (10Catrope) [04:44:22] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C: onboarding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258016 (10Catrope) [04:47:09] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C: onboarding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258016 (10Catrope) [04:48:11] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C: onboarding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258016 (10Catrope) [06:12:34] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant D: onboarding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258017 (10Catrope) [06:12:48] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant D: difficulty overlay in onboarding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258017 (10Catrope) [06:12:57] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant D: difficulty overlay in onboarding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258017 (10Catrope) [06:13:43] 10Growth-Team, 10Cognate, 10ContentTranslation, 10DBA, and 10 others: Upgrade x1 databases to Buster and Mariadb 10.4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254871 (10Marostegui) Switchover was done successfully. We had 69 read-only errors only. RO started at 06:01:26 RO stopped at 06:01:45 Total read-only... [06:21:15] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant D (desktop): embed onboarding dialog into suggested edits module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258019 (10Catrope) [06:21:53] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant D: difficulty overlay in onboarding - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258017 (10Catrope) [06:39:36] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C: Info icon in suggested edits module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258020 (10Catrope) [06:39:48] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C: Info icon in suggested edits module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258020 (10Catrope) [06:51:38] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C: mobile preview for suggested edits module with first suggested edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258021 (10Catrope) [06:54:45] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant D: mobile preview for suggested edits module with call to action - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258022 (10Catrope) [06:55:01] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: mobile preview for suggested edits module with first suggested edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258021 (10Catrope) [06:56:52] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C: pre-initiate suggested edits module on account creation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258023 (10Catrope) [06:57:19] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C: pre-initiate suggested edits module on account creation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258023 (10Catrope) [06:57:21] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C (mobile): welcome peek drawer - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258010 (10Catrope) [06:57:34] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C: pre-initiate suggested edits module on account creation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258023 (10Catrope) [07:08:08] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: support consistent suggested edits queue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258024 (10Catrope) [07:09:44] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612768 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [07:13:57] (03CR) 10Raimond Spekking: [V: 03+2 C: 03+2] "false positive" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612768 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [08:25:52] 10Growth-Team, 10Cognate, 10ContentTranslation, 10DBA, and 10 others: Upgrade x1 databases to Buster and Mariadb 10.4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254871 (10ops-monitoring-bot) Script wmf-auto-reimage was launched by marostegui on cumin1001.eqiad.wmnet for hosts: ` ['db1120.eqiad.wmnet'] ` The log... [08:43:14] 10Growth-Team, 10Cognate, 10ContentTranslation, 10DBA, and 10 others: Upgrade x1 databases to Buster and Mariadb 10.4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254871 (10ops-monitoring-bot) Completed auto-reimage of hosts: ` ['db1120.eqiad.wmnet'] ` and were **ALL** successful. [08:48:25] 10Growth-Team, 10Cognate, 10ContentTranslation, 10DBA, and 10 others: Upgrade x1 databases to Buster and Mariadb 10.4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254871 (10Marostegui) [10:27:10] 10Growth-Team, 10Cognate, 10ContentTranslation, 10DBA, and 10 others: Upgrade x1 databases to Buster and Mariadb 10.4 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T254871 (10Marostegui) 05Open→03Resolved All done, x1 fully running Buster and MariaDB 10.4 [10:33:04] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown: Notification emails repeated every day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257766 (10Aklapper) [10:33:06] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: User is receiving the same notification over and over again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714 (10Aklapper) [10:33:42] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown: Notification emails repeated every day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257766 (10Aklapper) 05duplicate→03Open Oh, this might not be exactly the same issue I see now, hence reopening. [10:34:02] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: User is receiving the same Echo web notification over and over again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714 (10Aklapper) [12:52:17] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments-Help panel, 10Patch-For-Review, 10Technical-Debt: Refactor help panel code - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255425 (10Tgr) One thing that would be nice IMO is making the code more debugging-friendly - expose all the classes via some means (like `mw.libs`), and maybe t... [14:08:24] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Handle CodeMirror in HelpPanelLogger.getEditor [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612872 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257627) [14:21:01] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Handle CodeMirror in HelpPanelLogger.getEditor [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612872 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257627) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [14:42:58] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Scaling, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Serbian-Sites: Scale: ORES topic models for uk, hu, hy, eu, sr (needed as soon as available) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249382 (10Halfak) a:05Halfak→03HAKSOAT [14:43:38] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Scaling, 10Scoring-platform-team (Current), 10Serbian-Sites: Scale: ORES topic models for uk, hu, hy, eu, sr (needed as soon as available) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249382 (10Halfak) We've managed to compress our vectors and reduce the memory footprint of ORES. That mean... [15:40:51] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Handle CodeMirror in HelpPanelLogger.getEditor [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612872 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257627) [15:51:13] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Handle CodeMirror in HelpPanelLogger.getEditor [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612872 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257627) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [16:16:33] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: User is receiving the same Echo web notification over and over again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714 (10Stryn) There is an user from the Finnish WIkipedia who said that they got mentioned 5 days in a row on Polish Wikipedia: https://fi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title... [16:19:49] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: ChangeMentorTest: Key "MaxNameChars" not found in input sources - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258083 (10Tgr) [16:21:44] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "CI error is T258083" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612872 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257627) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [17:53:08] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Growth-Team, 10Parsoid, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10Parsoid-Rendering: LInks: Add support for self-links - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69486 (10ssastry) [17:59:14] 10Growth-Team, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10VisualEditor: Flow: display of templates different from display in wikitext - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T100921 (10ssastry) [18:14:39] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown: Notification emails repeated every day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257766 (10Tgr) [18:16:45] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown: Notification emails repeated every day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257766 (10Tgr) >>! In T257714#6304076, @Tufor wrote: > Two Polish Wikipedia users reported that they receive the same notifications day after day about events that happe... [18:17:47] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: User is receiving the same Echo web notification over and over again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714 (10Tgr) @Tufor @Stryn the "X days in a row" issue is {T257766} (which might be the same issue, but more likely isn't). [18:31:24] (03PS1) 10Base: Fixing typo in apihelp-echopushsubscriptions+delete-example [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612930 [18:34:56] (03CR) 10Base: "Please disregard the topic tail, a c&p error" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612930 (owner: 10Base) [18:37:13] (03CR) 10Base: "> Patch Set 1:" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612930 (owner: 10Base) [19:41:05] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: homepage layout changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258005 (10Catrope) > Open question: should this only apply to variant C/D (but not variant A), or should we make this change globally? @MMiller_WMF says that the larger size of the suggested edits modu... [19:44:45] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Variant C/D: smaller start module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258008 (10Catrope) > Should this only apply to variant C/D (but not variant A), or should we make this change globally? @MMiller_WMF points out that this change is incongruent with variant A, because it w... [20:20:09] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: User is receiving the same Echo web notification over and over again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714 (10MBq) Today a dewiki user complained about recurring notifications which seem to be triggered by a 2008 (!) edit ( https://pl.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipe... [20:46:13] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: User is receiving the same Echo web notification over and over again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714 (10Tgr) [20:47:48] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: User is receiving the same Echo web notification over and over again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714 (10Tgr) [20:48:06] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown: Notification emails repeated every day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257766 (10Tgr) >>! In T257714#6310034, @MBq wrote: > Today a dewiki user complained about recurring notifications which seem to be triggered by a 2008 (!) edit ( https:/... [20:51:57] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10Core Platform Team, 10DBA: Purge unused watchlist rows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258098 (10MusikAnimal) [20:54:16] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: User is receiving the same Echo web notification over and over again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714 (10Tgr) > On fawiki, User:Telluride moved a page (here) and mentioned User:Amir smt in the edit summary; consequently, Amir smt received a notification. Apparently t... [20:58:57] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Accessibility: Activating links for alerts or notices does not move the focus to the new content for screen reader users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257753 (10Aklapper) [20:59:41] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown: Notification emails repeated every day - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257766 (10Tgr) All the edits mentioned here (the fiwiki report is the only one which did not specify the edit) are the latest revision of the respective page. One was a... [21:01:48] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: User is receiving the same Echo web notification over and over again - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257714 (10Tgr) Seems different after all: {T257766} is about old edits which are the last edit on the given page, starting to send notifications (mention or talkpage message... [21:13:18] (03PS1) 10Isarra: Move Vector-specific top:-5px badge offset to Vector style file [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/612954 [21:13:20] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist: Turn off auto-watchlist preferences for bots - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258108 (10MusikAnimal) [21:14:02] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10Core Platform Team, 10DBA: Purge unused watchlist rows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T258098 (10MusikAnimal) Other ideas... make use of #expiring-watchlist-items automatically. Say, when a page is deleted, MediaWiki can set the watchlist expiry to 5 years. We c... [21:38:13] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Accessibility: Activating links for alerts or notices does not move the focus to the new content for screen reader users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257753 (10Volker_E) @K1767 Thanks for the report. Both `a` elements currently feature ARIA `role="button"`, so the ta...