[00:03:53] 10Notifications, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Modern, 10MonoBook, and 2 others: Clean up the technical debt and inconsistencies of notification icon (Echo badge) positioning in different skins - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257143 (10Amorymeltzer) Re: modern, see also T246931 [01:17:14] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10Chinese-Sites, 10I18n, 10Patch-For-Review: Enhanced RC "new page" indicator causes misalignment in fullwidth character languages: replace nbsp? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135575 (10Shizhao) [01:50:22] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10Accessibility: Watchlist popup dialog for changes and date limit button is clicked is not accessible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257171 (10Tam-edwin-microsoft) [01:51:51] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10Accessibility: Watchlist popup dialog for changes and date limit button is clicked is not accessible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257171 (10Tam-edwin-microsoft) a:03Tam-edwin-microsoft [05:17:58] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07), 10User-DannyS712: Thanks activities should be logged by CheckUser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252226 (10Marostegui) Which wikis have it currently enabled? [06:01:03] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07), 10User-DannyS712: Thanks activities should be logged by CheckUser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252226 (10DannyS712) >>! In T252226#6280463, @Marostegui wrote: > Which wikis have it currently enabled? All wikis wit... [08:00:59] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609683 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [08:02:33] (03CR) 10Raimond Spekking: [V: 03+2 C: 03+2] "false positive" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609683 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [10:40:32] (03CR) 10Kosta Harlan: [C: 04-1] "I'm not sure about this; the way this is implemented ends up penalizing the user for looking at the Talk page (in that they cannot return " [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609212 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256955) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [10:41:16] (03CR) 10Kosta Harlan: "Is there a phab task for this?" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609223 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [11:16:45] (03PS1) 10Kosta Harlan: WelcomeSurvey: Update learn more copy text [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609766 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252572) [11:19:11] 10Growth-Team, 10GrowthExperiments: Post-edit dialog box - icon/label alignement - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255613 (10Tgr) This isn't specific to the post-edit panel (the homepage cards for example have the same issue), and I'm not aware of an easy way to fix it, although that might just be a reflect... [12:07:38] (03PS1) 10Gergő Tisza: Post-edit panel style fixes [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255825) [12:09:54] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 03+2] WelcomeSurvey: Update learn more copy text [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609766 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252572) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [12:59:52] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: WelcomeSurvey: Update learn more copy text [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609766 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252572) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [13:06:15] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07), 10User-DannyS712: Thanks activities should be logged by CheckUser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252226 (10Huji) [[ https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%98%D9%87:%D8%B3%DB%8C%D8%A7%D9%87%D9%87%E2%80%8C%D9%87... [13:33:33] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Not that I know. T255514#6275544 is the context for the patch (but it has been a problem before we had the edit switch link, is was just h" [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609223 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [13:56:40] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07), 10User-DannyS712: Thanks activities should be logged by CheckUser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252226 (10DannyS712) >>! In T252226#6281693, @Huji wrote: > [[ https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D9%88%DB%8C%DA%98%D9%87:%... [14:14:58] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: "Good point, will update the patch." [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609212 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256955) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [14:21:27] (03PS2) 10Gergő Tisza: Newcomer tasks: do not show post-edit dialog on talk page [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609212 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256955) [14:22:47] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07), 10User-DannyS712: Thanks activities should be logged by CheckUser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252226 (10Marostegui) I would like to see how much the tables grow per week on the biggest wikis (enwiki, commons, wiki... [14:25:03] (03PS2) 10Kosta Harlan: [WIP] WelcomeSurvey: Add language question [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609430 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232410) [14:27:35] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] WelcomeSurvey: Add language question [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609430 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232410) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [14:33:41] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Italian Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255037 (10Trizek-WMF) 05Stalled→03Open The community has apparently a lot of questions. [[ https://it.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Bar/Discussioni/Strumenti_per_i_nuovi_utenti&diff=prev&oldid=11418580... [14:33:43] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Scaling: Scale: Group 1: community engagement for deployment on fr, pt, pl, fa, sv, da, it, id, he Wikipedias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250481 (10Trizek-WMF) [14:35:26] (03PS3) 10Kosta Harlan: [WIP] WelcomeSurvey: Add language question [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609430 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232410) [14:37:58] (03CR) 10jerkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] WelcomeSurvey: Add language question [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609430 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T232410) (owner: 10Kosta Harlan) [15:09:49] 10Growth-Team, 10CommRel-Specialists-Support (Jul-Sep-2020), 10Goal: [goal] Deploy Growth features on wikis requesting them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T228980 (10Trizek-WMF) [15:16:49] (03PS6) 10Matěj Suchánek: Use custom LogFormatter for mentor changes [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609528 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245500) [15:38:41] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Swedish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257220 (10Trizek-WMF) [15:38:53] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Scaling: Scale: Group 1: community engagement for deployment on fr, pt, pl, fa, sv, da, it, id, he Wikipedias - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T250481 (10Trizek-WMF) [15:48:53] (03PS2) 10Jforrester: styles: Stop setting pending .oo-ui-toolbar-bar to 'transparent' [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609127 [15:49:01] (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 03+2] styles: Stop setting pending .oo-ui-toolbar-bar to 'transparent' [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609127 (owner: 10Jforrester) [15:56:48] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10DBA: Monitor the growth of CheckUser tables after the addition of Thanks data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257223 (10Huji) [15:57:18] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10DBA: Monitor the growth of CheckUser tables after the addition of Thanks data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257223 (10Huji) [15:57:21] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07), 10User-DannyS712: Thanks activities should be logged by CheckUser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252226 (10Huji) [15:59:40] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10DBA: Monitor the growth of CheckUser tables after the addition of Thanks data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257223 (10Huji) 05Open→03Stalled Stalled until T252226 actually reaches production servers. This would be a good time for the DBA team to come up w... [16:01:28] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10DBA, 10User-DannyS712: Monitor the growth of CheckUser tables after the addition of Thanks data - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257223 (10DannyS712) [16:12:54] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: styles: Stop setting pending .oo-ui-toolbar-bar to 'transparent' [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609127 (owner: 10Jforrester) [16:24:39] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications: Incorrect link to section in syntaxhighlight tag - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257224 (10Sunpriat2) [16:40:01] 10Notifications, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Modern, 10MonoBook, and 2 others: Clean up the technical debt and inconsistencies of notification icon (Echo badge) positioning in different skins - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257143 (10Demian) >>! In T257143#6280112, @Amorymeltzer wrote: > Re: modern, see... [16:40:16] 10Notifications, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Modern, 10MonoBook, and 2 others: Clean up the technical debt and inconsistencies of notification icon (Echo badge) positioning in different skins - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257143 (10Demian) [16:40:40] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Modern, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Demian: Modern echo icons too high up - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246931 (10Demian) a:03Demian [16:41:59] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Modern, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Demian: Modern echo icons too high up - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246931 (10Demian) Patch [[ https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/skins/Modern/+/609806/ | 609806 ]] (counter color not the actual): {F31918768} [16:45:18] 10Notifications, 10Desktop Improvements, 10Modern, 10MonoBook, and 2 others: Clean up the technical debt and inconsistencies of notification icon (Echo badge) positioning in different skins - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257143 (10Demian) [16:46:15] 10Notifications, 10Desktop Improvements, 10MonoBook, 10Technical-Debt, 10User-Demian: Clean up the technical debt and inconsistencies of notification icon (Echo badge) positioning in different skins - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257143 (10Demian) [16:56:14] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Modern, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Demian: Modern echo icons too high up - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246931 (10Amorymeltzer) Looks great to me! Not sure about usability, etc., but then again it's modern not vector so might be fine. It looks like there's an une... [16:56:35] 10Notifications, 10Desktop Improvements, 10MonoBook, 10Technical-Debt, 10User-Demian: Clean up the technical debt and inconsistencies of notification icon (Echo badge) positioning in different skins - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257143 (10Amorymeltzer) (replied there) [17:08:20] 10Growth-Team, 10Notifications, 10Modern, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Demian: Modern echo icons too high up - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246931 (10Demian) >>! In T246931#6282507, @Amorymeltzer wrote: > It looks like there's an uneven overlap on the bell and inbox, is there a chance that'd be even... [19:03:36] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Swedish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257220 (10Ainali) We don't use the Help namespace on svwiki, all help articles are in the Wikipedia namespace. [19:17:41] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend, and 3 others: Remove 'mediawiki.ui.anchor' module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235961 (10Krinkle) @Volker_E If re-use of the functions is considered useful, those could be moved more or less for free to mediawiki.mixins (possibl... [19:19:15] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Swedish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257220 (10Ainali) [19:21:33] 10Growth-Team, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07): Deploy Growth features on Hebrew Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255020 (10Themacintosher) [19:26:57] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10Accessibility: Watchlist_Settings: Settings control must have a label - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T246178 (10matmarex) 05Open→03Resolved [19:37:37] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Scaling, 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10drafttopic-modeling: Add articletopic model to testwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257248 (10Tgr) [19:37:55] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Scaling, 10ORES, 10Scoring-platform-team, 10drafttopic-modeling: Add articletopic model to testwiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257248 (10Tgr) [20:15:17] (03PS5) 10Catrope: Help panel: Make the CTA button a toggle [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/608509 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255255) [20:16:47] (03CR) 10Catrope: "Turns out the invisible label didn't work because I misunderstood how invisibleLabel is supposed to be used; fixed in the latest patchset." (032 comments) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/608509 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255255) (owner: 10Catrope) [20:18:35] (03PS2) 10Catrope: Help panel: Transitions for the CTA button [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609245 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255255) [20:18:40] (03CR) 10Catrope: Help panel: Transitions for the CTA button (031 comment) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609245 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255255) (owner: 10Catrope) [20:19:59] (03PS3) 10Catrope: Help panel: Transitions for the CTA button [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609245 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255255) [20:22:29] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 03+2] Newcomer tasks: do not show post-edit dialog on talk page [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609212 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256955) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:23:18] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 03+2] Post-edit panel: work around VE triggering postEdit and then reloading [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609223 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:24:17] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 03+2] Post-edit panel style fixes [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255825) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:26:41] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07), 10User-DannyS712: Thanks activities should be logged by CheckUser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252226 (10Huji) @DannyS712 one more thought: should we do a #user-notice for this change? [20:29:55] (03CR) 10Kosta Harlan: [C: 03+2] Help panel: Transitions for the CTA button [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609245 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255255) (owner: 10Catrope) [20:30:29] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks: Clarify if thank feature is publicly visible if logging is disabled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257251 (10FellTiger) [20:32:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Newcomer tasks: do not show post-edit dialog on talk page [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609212 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T256955) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:32:21] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Post-edit panel: work around VE triggering postEdit and then reloading [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609223 (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:32:40] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Post-edit panel style fixes [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609777 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255825) (owner: 10Gergő Tisza) [20:38:59] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 03+2] Use custom LogFormatter for mentor changes [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609528 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245500) (owner: 10Matěj Suchánek) [20:40:23] (03CR) 10Kosta Harlan: "> Patch Set 5:" (032 comments) [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/608509 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T255255) (owner: 10Catrope) [20:47:34] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Swedish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257220 (10Ainali) Where are the aliases supposed to be translated? In the Mediawiki namespace on svwiki? [20:48:20] 10Growth-Team, 10Thanks, 10CheckUser, 10MW-1.35-notes (1.35.0-wmf.40; 2020-07-07), and 2 others: Thanks activities should be logged by CheckUser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T252226 (10DannyS712) >>! In T252226#6283196, @Huji wrote: > @DannyS712 one more thought: should we do a #user-notice for this... [20:48:58] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Use custom LogFormatter for mentor changes [extensions/GrowthExperiments] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609528 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T245500) (owner: 10Matěj Suchánek) [20:54:56] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link: backtesting protocol - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257254 (10MMiller_WMF) [20:58:36] 10Growth-Team, 10Growth-Structured-Tasks: Add a link: backtesting protocol - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257254 (10MMiller_WMF) [21:01:51] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend, and 3 others: Remove 'mediawiki.ui.anchor' module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235961 (10Volker_E) @Krinkle For the code, a bigger conversation would be if MW core plans/needs to carry UI classes and we should “only” deprecate a... [21:06:51] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Maintenance-system, 10Wikidata, 10Core Platform Team Workboards (Clinic Duty Team), and 3 others: DatabaseUpdater: protect methods for direct database modification - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T249603 (10Addshore) [21:06:56] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Maintenance-system, 10Performance-Team, 10StructuredDiscussions, and 5 others: sql.php must not run LoadExtensionSchemaUpdates - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157651 (10Addshore) [21:24:22] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend, and 3 others: Remove 'mediawiki.ui.anchor' module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235961 (10Jdlrobson) So the suggestion is to avoid code duplication by using a mixin like https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/resource... [21:29:49] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend, and 3 others: Remove 'mediawiki.ui.anchor' module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235961 (10Krinkle) @Volker_E I have no good answers there other than that it seems like a simpler and more minimal change to keep this task scoped to... [21:38:47] 10Growth-Team: Deploy Growth features on Swedish Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T257220 (10Ainali) [21:44:27] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend, and 3 others: Remove 'mediawiki.ui.anchor' module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235961 (10Volker_E) >>! In T235961#6283389, @Jdlrobson wrote: > So the suggestion is to avoid code duplication by using a mixin like https://github.c... [21:58:36] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend, and 3 others: Remove 'mediawiki.ui.anchor' module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235961 (10Jdlrobson) > Remember, every page loads the mediawiki.ui modules right now. Not following this. MobileFrontend loads mediawiki.anchor. modu... [23:47:13] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend, and 3 others: Remove 'mediawiki.ui.anchor' module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235961 (10Volker_E) >>! In T235961#6283506, @Jdlrobson wrote: >> Remember, every page loads the mediawiki.ui modules right now. > Not following this.... [23:51:31] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 03+2] Add 'anchors.less' [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/609272 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235961) (owner: 10VolkerE) [23:57:53] 10Growth-Team, 10MediaWiki-Interface, 10MinervaNeue, 10MobileFrontend, and 4 others: Remove 'mediawiki.ui.anchor' module - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T235961 (10Jdlrobson) Pretty widely. Not gonna happen in time for 1.35. I think we're going to be living with the CSS for some time, so to me the mixi...