[07:18:47] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), 10User-notice-collaboration: Document how to create, move and delete Structured Discussions boar... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176107#3613742 [08:01:37] 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10MediaWiki-Patrolling, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10Wiktionary: Unable to patrol edits to translation pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151172#3613986 (10Nikerabbit) [08:03:36] 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10MediaWiki-Patrolling, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10Wiktionary: Unable to patrol edits to translation pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151172#2809605 (10Nikerabbit) There is a list of whitelisted actions for translatable pages in `PageTranslationHooks::preventD... [08:05:01] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist: Take appropriate action for existing overrides of watchlist messages we are changing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175807#3614013 (10Trizek-WMF) >>! In T175807#3611154, @Mat... [08:39:58] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Revision-Slider, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10TCB-Team: RevisionSlider does not work on Flow history / diff pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175833#3614063 (10Trizek-WMF) [08:40:05] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), and 2 others: Document how to create, move and delete Structured Discussions boards on wikis where... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176107#3614066 [11:09:43] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10StructuredDiscussions: Create a Special:DisableFlow which works opposite to Special:EnableFlow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176132#3614402 (10MarcoAurelio) [11:19:13] 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10MediaWiki-Patrolling, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10Wiktionary: Unable to patrol edits to translation pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151172#3614422 (10MarcoAurelio) @Nikerabbit You mean [[ https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/diffusion/ETRA/browse/master/Transla... [11:35:23] 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10MediaWiki-Patrolling, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10Wiktionary: Unable to patrol edits to translation pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151172#3614452 (10Nikerabbit) No, that is not enough. That code is there to prevent the patrol links from appearing. [11:41:35] 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10MediaWiki-Patrolling, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Translate, 10Wiktionary: Unable to patrol edits to translation pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151172#3614460 (10MarcoAurelio) Then it should be better if someone else takes care of that as it exceeds my knowledges. [13:00:11] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Notifications, 10User-notice-collaboration: Special:Notifications is too slow to open - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T153011#3614643 (10Trizek-WMF) Hi @Samat Concerning your first point, do you use any gadgets or scripts? Have you tried [[ ht... [13:07:03] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Community-Liaisons, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10Goal: Support Structured discussions features developments for FY 2017-2018 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175678#3614658 (10Trizek-WMF) [13:26:01] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Patch-For-Review: Tweak UI for main filtering entry point - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175217#3614699 (10Petar.petkovic) a:03Petar.petkovic [13:31:17] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Petar.petkovic: Tweak UI for main filtering entry point - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175217#3614707 (10Petar.petkovic) [13:47:22] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-Cache, 10StructuredDiscussions: Flow kept a link red after the page was created - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176036#3614745 (10Trizek-WMF) It may be conflict between parenthesis and Farsi language, written left-to-right. @Mooeypoo may know more about this case. [13:55:51] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10StructuredDiscussions: Create a Special:DisableFlow which works opposite to Special:EnableFlow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176132#3614402 (10Trizek-WMF) You mean a page that does [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Structured_Discussions/Activation#If_Structured_Discu... [14:07:14] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10AbuseFilter, 10Analytics, 10Analytics-EventLogging, and 30 others: Possible WMF deployed extension PHP 7 issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173850#3614768 (10Reedy) >>! In T173850#3542522, @Anomie wrote: > I'm not impressed with the false positive rate for this tool.... [14:19:10] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10User-Petar.petkovic: Move New Filters opt-out preference to its own section on the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175765#3614782 (10Petar.petkovic) a:... [14:56:02] (03CR) 10Sbisson: [C: 032] Consistently use the message when updating count [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/375482 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173970) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [15:00:41] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-extensions-Newsletter, 10Patch-For-Review: Don't hide the View newsletter link? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174927#3577185 (10SBisson) I've asked on the patch.. but I'll ask again here: It looks like it's alwa... [15:08:18] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Consistently use the message when updating count [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/375482 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173970) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [15:16:12] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep 2017), 10User-notice: Announce and follow up with communities about the New Filters for Recent changes by default deployme... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T164489#3614965 [16:29:55] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters: Regression: Old interface appearing alongside New Filters on Watchlist (on Beta) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176155#3615234 (10jmatazzoni) [16:30:18] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters: Regression: Old interface appearing alongside New Filters on Watchlist (on Beta) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176155#3615247 (10jmatazzoni) p:05Triage>03Unbreak! [16:38:41] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters: Regression: Old interface appearing alongside New Filters on Watchlist (on Beta) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176155#3615271 (10jmatazzoni) [16:42:48] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters: Regression: Old interface appearing alongside New Filters on Watchlist (on Beta) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176155#3615286 (10SBisson) a:03SBisson [17:04:16] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10StructuredDiscussions, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), 10Patch-For-Review: Rename Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174137#3551973 (10Framawiki) Just a few questions on the API client side : what about mw... [17:12:33] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10StructuredDiscussions, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), 10Patch-For-Review: Rename Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T174137#3615451 (10Jdforrester-WMF) >>! In T174137#3615416, @Framawiki wrote: > Just a few... [17:18:07] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Epic, 10Patch-For-Review: Graduate New Filters UX out of beta on Recent Changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157642#3615483 (10jmatazzoni) [18:09:12] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), 10Patch-For-Review: Cannot set my default to see all results (no filters) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172387#3615688 (10Mooeypoo) Bringing... [18:48:53] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters: Regression: Old interface appearing alongside New Filters on Watchlist (on Beta) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176155#3615791 (10SBisson) p:05Unbreak!>03Normal The faulty patch (https://gerrit.w... [19:17:45] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters: Translate deprecated edit review search parameters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176172#3615967 (10jmatazzoni) [19:18:04] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters: Translate deprecated edit-review search parameters so they work in the new UX - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176172#3615983 (10jmatazzoni) [19:24:44] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters: Translate deprecated edit-review search parameters so they work in the new UX - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T176172#3615995 (10jmatazzoni) [19:34:15] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), and 2 others: Move New Filters opt-out preferenc... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175765#3602670 [19:43:19] 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10Commons, 10Contributors-Team, 10Wikidata, and 6 others: "2062 Read timeout is reached" DBQueryError when trying to load specific users' watchlists (with +1000 articles) on several wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T171027#3616027 (10SamanthaNguyen) [19:44:51] JOIN [19:45:07] pong [19:45:12] :) [19:45:42] Pl217, meet Volker_E, volker, meet Petar, our new full time team member who's rockin' our LESS and CSS [19:46:23] Thanks Moriel, I already know Volker :) [19:46:32] Pl217: finally I found out, where in the 150+ IRC channels you're hiding [19:46:35] ;) [19:46:42] :D [19:46:48] Awesomesauce, making sure [19:46:51] So, I merged the patch, we can do a followup to use the existing mixin in core, but you two should see if there's a need to add anything to the core mixin or not, etc etc. [19:48:05] Thank you Moriel for linking the two of us :D [19:48:28] so for the ::ms-input-placeholder isn't needed, as Edge also supports Webkit prefix [19:49:40] Pl217: Moriel was talking about the differences btw the mixin in OOUI and the just merged RCFilters: https://github.com/wikimedia/oojs-ui/blob/master/src/styles/common.less#L116 [19:50:03] I'd pledge for amending the OOUI one and not reinvent the mixin ;) [19:50:34] I would use it, but didn't know it was there :) [19:50:57] Ok, we can drop vendor prefix for Edge [19:51:07] Volker_E, oh, I didn't notice I was looking at oojs-ui build -- I was actually wondering if this shouldn't go to the base core mediawiki mixins. This is good for non-js styling too [19:51:35] What do you suggest about specificity for Firefox? [19:51:54] Other browsers don't need that kind of opacity reset [19:52:00] Also, Volker_E, side note, is there a place where all mixins are documented? [19:52:08] (might be good to add; core and ooui mixins to use) [20:00:57] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10User-Petar.petkovic: Make icons size more consistent for Recent Changes filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168835#3616068 (10Mooeypoo) Moving this to blocked, as per @Volker_E's comment. This... [20:01:15] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters: Make icons size more consistent for Recent Changes filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168835#3616071 (10Mooeypoo) [20:05:09] Pl217: yeah, opacity was kind of a compromise. The mixin wasn't written by myself ;) [20:06:02] mooeypoo: there's currently several places for mixins, but I don't know how you want to improve documentation [20:06:12] mooeypoo: as nobody reads it anyways ;P [20:06:49] I know that, git blame is useful, but naming is poor :D [20:07:01] mooeypoo: joke aside, OOUI comes with mixins and when they are useful to be upstreamed to core mixins, we go for it [20:07:25] mooeypoo: mixins don't cost a dime, as they don't appear in the output anyways. [20:07:45] mooeypoo: what we need to be careful about is more long-term maintenance [20:08:25] which then might be better with core mixins over product mixins as they are exposed to more people [20:08:35] I just cleaned up old mixins in Echo [20:09:11] on the other hand we shouldn't make every vendor prefixed property a mixin, otherwise mediawiki.mixins gets less consumable [20:09:56] so long story short, I think placeholder could deserve a core mixin, I wouldn't want to make `font-weight` a default output property [20:11:10] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Support-and-Safety, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10User-Urbanecm: Limiting thanks for new users at pl.wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169268#3392766 (10greg) >>! In T169268#3581101, @TBolliger wrote: > From {T174191} we can see that on pl.wik... [20:11:28] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Anti-Harassment, 10Support-and-Safety, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 10User-Urbanecm: Limiting thanks for new users at pl.wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T169268#3616100 (10greg) [20:15:56] Volker_E: Should I upstream placeholder mixin to core mixins? [20:16:32] Pl217: I try to remember what Ed's reservations about it was [20:16:53] if I don't recall, we can just give it a shot [20:17:12] oh wait [20:17:14] sorry [20:17:27] I got confused by thinking about this for too long [20:17:41] we HAVE it in core as well already [20:18:18] Ed wanted to have an OOUI version as well, because there might be usages of OOUI outside of core [20:18:36] and you can do whatever [20:18:48] it's in this case even more flexible than the OOUI one [20:19:04] I'd rely on core mixin for the RCFilters patch and revert the patch [20:19:12] I usually check for core mixins, but this time I missed it [20:35:17] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10Patch-For-Review: Put an opt-out for the New Filters onto the current (unconsolidated) RC Preferences page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T168376#3616152 (1... [20:35:19] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), and 2 others: Move New Filters opt-out preferenc... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175765#3616151 [20:40:34] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), 10Patch-For-Review, 10User-Petar.petkovic: Tweak UI for main filtering entry point - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175217#3616186 (... [20:41:15] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Epic, 10Patch-For-Review: Graduate New Filters UX out of beta on Recent Changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157642#3616188 (10jmatazzoni) [21:14:34] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences: Consolidate preferences: Migrate and convert user preferences to the new UX - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172757#3616307 (10Catrope) Clarification: this is asking for... [21:19:18] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences: Migrate and convert user preferences to the new UX - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T172757#3616311 (10jmatazzoni) [21:24:37] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10Chinese-Sites, and 3 others: Give the right to sysops to create, move and delete Structured Discussions boards on wikis where they ar... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175934#3608450 [21:26:31] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10Chinese-Sites, and 3 others: Give the right to sysops to create, move and delete Structured Discussions boards on wikis where they ar... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175934#3616328 [21:26:50] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10Stewards-and-global-tools, 10StructuredDiscussions, and 2 others: Define a process to attribute Flow creator rights to (a group of) users on wikis where Flow ... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T165305#3616331 [21:26:52] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10StructuredDiscussions, 10Chinese-Sites, and 3 others: Give the right to sysops to create, move and delete Structured Discussions boards on wikis where they ar... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T175934#3608450 [21:35:05] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Epic, 10Patch-For-Review: Graduate New Filters UX out of beta on Recent Changes - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T157642#3616340 (10jmatazzoni) [21:37:16] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10StructuredDiscussions: Moving topics between boards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88140#3616346 (10Cpiral) >>! In T88140#1005044, @Nemo_bis wrote: > Thanks for filing this report. I didn't expect such a feature to be missing, it would be nice to have a comparison table bet... [21:39:54] stephanebisson: in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173613 Status Code:204 is indeed returned when there is no updated content, but it's still doing it every 3 sec [21:40:01] stephanebisson: is it OK? [22:02:56] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), 10Patch-For-Review, 10Performance: Make "live update" not download the entire RC pag... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173613#3616399 [22:03:51] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10MW-1.30-release-notes (WMF-deploy-2017-09-19 (1.30.0-wmf.19)), 10Patch-For-Review, 10Performance: Make "live update" not download the entire RC pag... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173613#3616417 [22:03:53] 10Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q1-Jul-Sep-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Integrated-Filters, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes: Graduate Live Update out of beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T173614#3616418 (10Etonkovidova) [22:18:46] etonkovidova: Sounds fine to e [22:18:57] Once there are new edits it should stop though [22:19:06] Unless live update is on [22:19:24] RoanKattouw: right - it looked ok to me too; just double checking :)