[00:23:00] (03PS7) 10GeoffreyT2000: Add mainspace pages moved from other namespaces outside of Special:MovePage to page curation queue [extensions/PageTriage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/341113 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155289) [00:55:14] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Provide ORES scores on hover for pages with RC Filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159196#3170254 (10Halfak) Yes! Probably. When I finish T162217, we should be able to show the user some good approximation... [01:07:36] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Provide ORES scores on hover for pages with RC Filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159196#3170260 (10Catrope) Hmm, so T162217 will give us information like "at threshold 0.650 the precision is 87%", which me... [11:05:35] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 05MW-1.29-release (WMF-deploy-2017-03-28_(1.29.0-wmf.18)), 13Patch-For-Review: Review ORES prediction visibility on wikis where they are enabled by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161706#3140186 (10SB... [11:28:14] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 07Design: Design ways to facilitate repetitive use for the new Recent Changes filters - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151994#3170905 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T151994#2947925, @jmatazzoni wrote: > I like this concept and think users would find... [11:49:25] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 07Epic: Extend the filter capabilities for edit review - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162675#3170940 (10Pginer-WMF) [12:58:35] stephanebisson: ready for the deployment? [12:58:48] Trizek: bien sur! [12:59:13] Parfait. Quand tu veux. :) [13:02:04] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 07User-notice-collaboration: Make ORES prediction disappear when the edit is reviewed with Flagged Revisions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161888#3171222 (10Trizek-WMF) [13:36:26] * Trizek vient de se souvenir que le déploiement était à 15:00 UTC. [13:54:25] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Tracking: Launch ERI RC page features as a Beta Feature to all wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144458#2600352 (10zeljkofilipin) ``` zfilipin@terbium:~$ mwscript initUserPreference... [13:54:51] hey matt_flaschen, I added you to https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/346915/2 only to ask about the Flow test that Jenkins thinks is broken, of course a review is welcome if you have time [13:55:17] (the Flow test appears to have been broken before my change but I'm not sure how to test that) [14:01:48] Trizek: RC filters now deployed to fawiki, ruwiki, trwiki, and frwiki [14:01:59] Cool, thanks stephanebisson [14:15:50] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Guided tour for the New Filters mentions ORES predictions on wikis where they are not available - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162693#3171465 (10Trizek-WMF) [14:30:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun 2017), and 3 others: Announce and follow up with communities group 2 about the New Filters for... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158332#3171496 [16:07:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: When you search for a filter and add it, then click on an already active filter, the filter list is not updated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162709#3172051 (10Trizek-WMF) >>! In T162709#3172019, @Aklapper wrote: > Hi @Trizek-WMF. Please a... [16:29:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: [wmf.17] RC page - 'Fatal exception of type "DBQueryError" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162714#3172151 (10Etonkovidova) [17:04:22] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: [wmf.17] RC page - 'Fatal exception of type "DBQueryError"' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162714#3172314 (10Etonkovidova) [17:40:30] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review: Activate Flow as a Beta feature on French Wikiversity - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162022#3172517 (10Catrope) Scheduled for Tuesday April 11 (today) around 23:00 UTC. [17:50:21] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review: Activate Flow as a Beta feature on French Wikiversity - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162022#3172554 (10Trizek-WMF) Message sent to the community. [17:56:51] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: When you search for a filter and add it, then click on an already active filter, the filter list is not updated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162709#3172592 (10Catrope) To clarify, what you need to do to reproduce this bug is: - Make sure... [17:58:08] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 07Epic, 07Tracking: Extend the filter capabilities for edit review - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162675#3172594 (10jmatazzoni) [18:04:50] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Flow, 07Regression: [regression pre-wmf.7] Using VE Help shortcut displays multiple windows after invoking the popup in Flow board description - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154626#3172648 (10Etonkovidova) I closed the bug - and I was wrong.... [18:10:58] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: internal_api_error_Flow\Exception\UnknownWorkflowIdException when click on 'Edit' topic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156956#3172656 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [18:14:27] RoanKattouw, did you push the idealWidth fix to clippable? [18:14:35] I want to make sure it's merged before the release [18:14:37] Not yet [18:14:43] I'm halfway through writing the commit message [18:14:47] It's a definite blocker for the RCFilters refactoring [18:14:51] ok let me know, I'll review [18:16:23] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): [betalabs] minor: 'Mark as resolve' and 'Reopen topic' have checkmark icon black - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132648#3172660 (10Catrope) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Catrope @Etonkovidova says this is mysteriously fixed now [18:20:00] bd808, vagrant keeps flaking out on SSH auth :((((( aaaaaaa [18:21:19] mooeypoo: starting the VM? I've had a lot of that lately too [18:21:26] Yeah [18:21:29] It seems to be timing out [18:21:47] I've searched online, some suggest it might be that the VM is asking for some approval/"hit enter" type thing [18:21:51] * RoanKattouw is not updating to Jessie until this is fixed [18:22:00] yeah. I don't know if it's a VirtualBox issue or a Vagrant issue [18:22:00] It only started happening to people who upgraded [18:22:01] they recommended adding gui to the Vagrantfile [18:22:06] So my laziness seems to be paying off [18:22:08] so I'm going to try that [18:22:21] mooeypoo: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/347658 [18:22:31] mooeypoo: if you can track it down I'll buy you a beverage of your choice [18:22:42] bd808, it works and fails intermittently. Seems to fail immediately after I pull from the vagrant repo and go 'vagrant up' [18:22:56] the it sometimes work if i "insist" (vagrant reload / vagrant halt + vagrant up ) [18:25:16] I've had it a lot when testing patches and my workflow there is vagrant destroy && vagarnt up [18:26:08] yeah I"d rather not constantly destroy though [18:26:15] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Add proper message when user group expiry is changed [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/347144 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159301) (owner: 10TTO) [18:27:30] ok I am attempting a solution from the 'net but I am running into issues... bd808 they're suggesting I add vb.gui = true to see if the machine is waiting for some confirmation - but when I add that, I get an error: [18:27:31] Command: ["startvm", "a749e95e-5738-4a33-80be-753f56aabf06", "--type", "gui"] [18:27:46] bd808, is there a better way to add gui=true ? [18:28:01] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): Delete old instances that are no longer used - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129389#2104124 (10Catrope) @Mattflaschen-WMF What remains to be done here? [18:29:35] mooeypoo: that looks like the right way -- https://www.vagrantup.com/docs/virtualbox/configuration.html#gui-vs-headless [18:29:41] bd808, got it [18:30:03] there was a commented-out gui=true in Vagrantfile that I missed, I think I initially called it too soon or something [18:30:04] it works [18:30:23] but now it just goes into the VM, asks for user/pass and then just greets me with a shell [18:30:30] while it waits for SSH auth method: private key [18:30:31] weird [18:32:23] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Wikimedia-Extension-setup: Add NewUserMessage to kabwiki, for Flow, if community agrees - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145230#3172698 (10Trizek-WMF) 05Open>03declined No updates since a while, and the user who made the request appears not t... [18:32:26] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons, and 3 others: Enable Flow on all kab.wikipedia talk pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140588#3172700 (10Trizek-WMF) [18:33:15] bd808, I managed to capture a brief error, but I don't think that has anything to do with it... http://imgur.com/a/dVbwX [18:33:29] it quickly refreshes that into a shell asking login credentials [18:34:32] hmmm... 'recovering journal'. I wonder if we are getting bad shutdowns that lead to corrupt fs images [18:35:18] the jessie image is using ext4 as the default file system. I don't now what trusty was using [18:35:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add proper message when user group expiry is changed [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/347144 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159301) (owner: 10TTO) [18:36:06] RoanKattouw: can you check what file system is used for your VM's root partition? Is it ext3 or ext4? [18:36:44] /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered) [18:37:02] Oh for my VM [18:37:11] thanks. so they are both ext4. red herring [18:37:20] /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw) [18:37:20] [18:37:26] Sorry, that first one was the host FS [18:37:36] But yeah the VM root FS is also ext4 for me [18:37:43] bd808, there seems to be a lot of complaints about this regardless of jessie [18:37:56] I'm seeing tickets about vagrant failing to SSH after 'vagrant up' from 2014 [18:37:59] I also don't always vagrant suspend/halt cleanly, and I still haven't had that issue [18:38:20] Maybe all that means is I'm the proverbial 95yo chain smoker [18:39:40] RoanKattouw, remind me, how do I get the output of a command to be saved into a file? [18:40:03] tee something [18:40:22] foo | tee file_to_write_to [18:40:36] or tee -a to append to an existing file [18:41:29] or `foo > file_to_write_to` if you don't want to see the output on screen too [18:41:43] welp. I went "VAGRANT_LOG=debug vagrant up | tee vagrant_boot_log_debug.log" [18:41:47] And guess what? [18:41:49] It loads. [18:42:00] perfect. always do that [18:42:21] bd808, btw, will it override that file or do I need to clean it [18:42:39] it will overwrite by default [18:42:40] mooeypoo: It will overwrite unless you use -a (for append) [18:42:50] ok so I am wondering if I should take a chance and do it again [18:42:55] I removed 'gui' from the settings [18:43:01] seemed to have been irrelevant [18:43:07] should I retry.... [18:43:20] do you have the time to waste? [18:43:24] if not move on [18:43:32] if so keep trying :) [18:43:36] My fear is that this will happen when you're *not* around :P [18:43:49] that's what pastes are for :) [18:44:07] yeah... but then if I want to do some work over the weekend, I'm stuck [18:44:13] not that I work on the weekends, RoanKattouw. Ever. [18:44:25] I'm going to retry. [18:44:49] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Add proper message when user group expiry is changed [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/347144 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T159301) (owner: 10TTO) [18:44:57] I won't have much internet access this weekend, so I will never know [18:45:09] mooeypoo: I *certainly* don't work over the weekend either. Never look at the teimstamps on my git commits. They are all lies. [18:45:22] bd808, IT WORKED AGAIN [18:45:35] that makes me think its a race in Vagrant [18:45:40] I was going to say the same thing [18:45:49] turn up the logging == slow things down == avoid race [18:46:09] Want me to try with > so it's not printing? [18:46:32] might be a tad faster [18:49:34] bd808, it's dying! it's dying! INTO MY LOG! \o/ [18:49:40] ... I should not be this happy about this [18:51:08] * mooeypoo is wondering if she should ctrl-C it, now that it's clearly stuck in repetitive loops of doom [18:51:15] yeah [18:51:31] I can let it run while I get coffee, but from quick glance it looks like it just repeats [18:52:00] oh wait, it is now dying in a new way [18:52:05] mooeypoo: https://tools.wmflabs.org/bash/quip/AVteW6igQMK9DA-FLEiM [18:52:19] I'm'a let it run a bit longer [18:52:27] I'm hoping it actually prints into my file, btw. Ha. [18:52:35] rofl [18:52:56] important milestones must be recorded! [18:53:06] bd808, nooooooo my file only has the "echoed" stuff!!!! [18:53:07] AAAA [18:53:13] ok I'll copy/paste whatever's left in my terminal [18:53:22] but I apparently did things wrong :\ [18:53:35] oh.. you didn't get stderr I bet [18:53:50] cmd 2>&1 | tee foo.log [18:54:58] bd808, https://pastebin.com/cknEMEgn [18:55:06] Whatever I could salvage from my terminal buffer [18:55:43] I tried the | tee xx thing but that didn't make it crap out, so I wanted to try and see if I can output to the file without outputting to the screen, using: "VAGRANT_LOG=debug vagrant up > vagrant_boot_log_debug_sshthing.log" [18:55:48] but that clearly didn't work :( [18:56:45] *nod* that would send stdout to the file but stderr to the screen still. so if you saw it on screen it wasn't in the file [18:56:54] meh [18:57:10] Time for 2>&1 ? [18:57:28] Is that code? [18:57:36] * mooeypoo is a newbie linux person, speak English [18:58:03] It's $FILE_DESCRIPTOR>&$OTHER_FILE_DESCRIPTOR [18:58:17] in this case 2 == stderr; 1 == stdout [18:58:23] ah. Want me to retry? [18:58:42] so send all stderr to stdout and then >file.log sends all stdout to a file [18:59:26] mooeypoo: our could try. if you still need a coffee set it running and wlak away [18:59:34] yup will do [19:00:13] let me verify that I got the command right, though [19:00:14] VAGRANT_LOG=debug vagrant up 2>&1 > vagrant_boot_log_debug.log [19:00:15] ? [19:00:28] yeah, that should work [19:00:40] I still see stuff [19:00:49] on the screen [19:00:53] huh [19:01:06] Didn't work; the file has only the things I see without the debug [19:01:12] maybe put the 2>&1 at the end [19:01:27] (also, I forgot to 'vagrant halt' first, so this was quick) [19:01:45] after the filename? [19:01:50] yes [19:02:26] ok that works [19:02:43] * mooeypoo is running it again [19:03:32] * mooeypoo goes to get coffee [19:04:09] Yeah the order is backwards, sorry [19:04:21] You have to do command > file 2>&1 , that works, but command 2>&1 > file doesn't work [19:04:25] You'd expect the reverse to be true [19:04:45] But it's 1970s/80s tech that's essentially unchanged, so uphill through the snow both ways etc [19:25:20] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 07Mobile: Mobile splitted notifications do not show numbers properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125321#3173004 (10IKhitron) Hi, @Catrope, I have some time to reread all the tasks I ever filed. I believe we should close this one. I didn't see the problem... [19:26:00] bd808, ok, I'm back, I have a 230kb log file, but I have no idea if it failed or not [19:26:04] let me see if it connects [19:26:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: RC ORES filters do not force a changed state to 'r': it displayed black until page reloaded - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T161060#3173012 (10Etonkovidova) @SBisson yes, it seems the bug is not relevant anym... [19:26:19] ... bd808 it's up [19:26:22] [19:26:26] well [19:26:34] move on with your day [19:26:45] we will try some other time [19:26:50] bd808, I'm going to try and do this every time I load vagrant, so when it DOES fail, I have a log [19:27:02] sweet [19:27:07] * mooeypoo will try to remember [19:27:30] bd808, I think it's afraid of you [19:27:31] 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10CatWatch, 06TCB-Team: Some users are recognized as bots in recent changes and watchlists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130504#3173030 (10IKhitron) Hi everyone. I didn't see this problem at least six months. Should we close the task? [19:29:45] 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, 07I18n, 07Mobile, 07RTL: English edit summaries are reversed in rtl wikis in Android built-in browser - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133506#3173039 (10IKhitron) Hi @Amire80. It's ok at least six months. Should we close the task? [19:30:41] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10Notifications: Open flow link from notification popup doesn't affect watchlist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138236#3173041 (10IKhitron) Hi. What's up? [19:34:29] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Timestamp discrepancy for cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140580#3173059 (10IKhitron) Hi, @Etonkovidova. Shouldn't this task be closed? [19:36:05] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10Notifications: Marking notifications about Flow topics/boards as read should also unbold them on Special:Watchlist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144179#3173070 (10IKhitron) Hi, @Quiddity, what's up? [19:36:38] 10MediaWiki-Recent-changes, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 10CatWatch, 06TCB-Team: Some users are recognized as bots in recent changes and watchlists - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130504#3173074 (10Addshore) 05Open>03Invalid [20:04:32] mooeypoo: :) heisenbugs [20:08:15] haha [20:13:08] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Timestamp discrepancy for cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140580#3173225 (10Etonkovidova) @IKhitron I agree that the issue should be closed. There were some backend improvements that made timestamps more responsive to updates. I co... [20:14:18] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Timestamp discrepancy for cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140580#3173227 (10Etonkovidova) 05Open>03Resolved p:05Triage>03Lowest [20:53:17] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/347711 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [21:44:48] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: internal_api_error_Flow\Exception\UnknownWorkflowIdException when click on 'Edit' topic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156956#3173434 (10Etonkovidova) I checked the history of https://www.mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Sandbox&topic_postId=rsg1m81vskkdywgk&wor... [22:02:49] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: [minor]: 'Mark as resolve' and 'Reopen topic' have checkmark icon black - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132648#3173473 (10Etonkovidova) 05Resolved>03Open p:05Triage>03Lowest [22:03:18] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: [minor]: 'Mark as resolve' and 'Reopen topic' have checkmark icon black - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132648#3173481 (10Etonkovidova) Re-checked - the issue is not present in Safari. FF and Chrome still have the bug. Re-opening with 'Lowest' priority and assigning... [23:19:10] etonkovidova, I'm trying to run browser tests for Echo, I'm getting an error in "given I am logged in" with "Incorrect or missing CAPTCHA" -- do you know how to solve this? [23:20:29] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q4-Apr-Jun-2017), 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review: Activate Flow as a Beta feature on French Wikiversity - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162022#3173765 (10Catrope) 05Open>03Resolved [23:29:54] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, 07Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016: New User Landing Page - Article Creation Workflow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156442#3173772 (10srishakatux) [23:36:56] RoanKattouw: Can I explicitly specify what number I want shown on the Echo alerts icon? It shows the number of bundled messages but since I have a non-expandable bundle, it's confusing to see "5" on the icon and then 1 unread alert. [23:37:13] Unfortunately you can't :( [23:37:44] Any point filing a ticket? :P [23:38:14] Hmm, yeah maybe [23:38:26] I did ask Stephane about this once and he just mumbled that it would be complicated [23:38:30] He didn't actually say that we couldn't do it [23:38:54] Now that I understand this code better, I think we'd be able to do this, actually [23:42:49] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Create a param to explicitly specify the number that shows up on the icon(s) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T162757#3173782 (10Niharika) [23:43:54] Niharika: Wait, why are there 6 attempts rather than 3? [23:44:13] Are there 3 unread notifications that somehow each represent pairs of failed attempts? [23:44:24] Or are there 6 unread notifications and did our counter just break? [23:44:50] RoanKattouw: It does represent each pair of failed attempts. [23:44:59] how? [23:45:10] There's a threshold for how many attempts can take place before we issue a notification. [23:45:13] Do you have bundling inside bundling somehow? [23:45:15] ooh, I see [23:45:21] OK that makes sense [23:45:24] Kind of. [23:51:24] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 06TCB-Team, 07Community-Wishlist-Survey-2016, 07German-Community-Wishlist: Notification: Your file was used - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77154#3173820 (10srishakatux) [23:59:49] hee hee browser test triggered the automatic username blacklist for "wmf" http://imgur.com/a/a9Emz