[00:00:58] eh, I linked to the wrong task [00:27:21] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 05MW-1.29-release-notes, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2017-01-17_(1.29.0-wmf.8): Build user interface for the Filter Search Bar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149435#2974853 (10jmatazzoni) @Mooeypoo w... [00:32:59] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 05MW-1.29-release-notes, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2017-01-17_(1.29.0-wmf.8): Build user interface for the Filter Search Bar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149435#2974897 (10Mooeypoo) I want to poi... [00:34:21] jmatazzoni_, I spoke to RoanKattouw now before his flight, he gave me code-permission ("unlicked the cookie", as they say) to fix up his AJAX commit and merge it. There's a small issue to resolve in it, but I'll try to do that ASAP and get that merged by tomorrow hopefully -- that should at least give us a correct view of what the user sees in a session and make a decision about what the behavior and normalization should be. [00:34:55] jmatazzoni_, does that sound okay? Can we pause the discussion for a moment? I fear we're going to go back and forth on decisions we've already made, just for having a temporary UI that emphasizes the *wrong* aspects of the behavior. [00:39:25] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10UI-Standardization, 10VisualEditor, and 2 others: VE+NWE: Move Omega button into Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156349#2974942 (10Volker_E) 05declined>03Open Re-open through ongoing questions apart from flawed proposal on moving it to dialog… [00:40:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Design: VE+NWE: Move Omega button into Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156349#2974952 (10Volker_E) [00:40:10] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Community-Engagement, and 3 others: Change how the notification count is displayed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152457#2974955 (10bmansurov) Got it. [06:48:44] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 05MW-1.29-release-notes, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2017-01-17_(1.29.0-wmf.8): Build user interface for the Filter Search Bar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149435#2975363 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T149... [07:19:19] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 05MW-1.29-release-notes, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2017-01-17_(1.29.0-wmf.8): Build user interface for the Filter Search Bar - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149435#2975377 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T149... [07:22:20] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): RC - Selecting all filters in a group makes them grey out - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156429#2975378 (10Pginer-WMF) [07:23:19] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): RC - Selecting all filters in a group makes them grey out - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156429#2974392 (10Pginer-WMF) I tried to update the ticket title to better capture what to do. I think @Mooeypoo has already a clear idea, so feel free to add... [08:26:12] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 06Language-Team, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences: Echo uses Gregorian calendar regardless of user preferences - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154679#2975452 (10Nikerabbit) @jmatazzoni The Language team is not planning to wo... [08:36:43] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-extensions-TranslationNotifications: Use server-side MessagePoster in TranslationNotifications to fix Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154736#2975489 (10Nikerabbit) p:05Triage>03High I'm removing the team tag. As per our published maintenance resp... [09:13:45] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-ReviewStream, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Newcomer-friendly edit-review tools: help imagine what that looks like - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150078#2773431 (10Legoktm) Can someone please move the notes over to mediawiki.org? [09:30:32] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Tools for curating and organizing editing work: what has been done and where to go next - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T148088#2714557 (10Legoktm) The notes were moved to https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Developer_Summit/2017/tools-... [09:46:38] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 06Developer-Relations (Jan-Mar-2017), 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Hacking Session: Learn to make new notification types - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149246#2746503 (10Legoktm) https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/devsummit17-new-notification-types... [10:41:11] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 06Developer-Relations (Jan-Mar-2017), 10Wikimedia-Developer-Summit (2017): Hacking Session: Learn to make new notification types - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149246#2975883 (10Qgil) 05Open>03Resolved Thank you very much, @Legoktm. I think this is al... [13:37:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/334599 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [13:38:49] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Localisation updates from https://translatewiki.net. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/334602 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [14:20:12] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Mention triggeres while using templates for reporting users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156485#2976386 (10Ugog_Nizdast) [14:41:28] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 07Mobile: Cannot switch to VE on Flow post in mobile view - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156201#2976459 (10SBisson) >>! In T156201#2974226, @jmatazzoni wrote: > @SBisson, I think the right functionality is for this to work the same as desktop. Elena doesn't think it's overly... [15:15:49] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10Mail, 10Developer-Wishlist (2017): Provide an easy to use HTML mail system - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156231#2976566 (10Qgil) [15:21:35] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: No way to remove heading (and other structural formatting) in Flow posts other than changing to edit source - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119600#2976605 (10QuimGil) >>! In T119600#2972223, @Trizek-WMF wrote: > I think users who want to clear styling because they have... [16:33:41] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-Email, 10Developer-Wishlist (2017): Provide an easy to use HTML mail system - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156231#2976840 (10Aklapper) [17:06:45] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 06Language-Team, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences: Echo uses Gregorian calendar regardless of user preferences - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154679#2976965 (10jmatazzoni) My understanding is that the calendar is not really... [17:20:51] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): RC - Selecting all filters in a group makes them grey out - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156429#2976995 (10Etonkovidova) @Pginer-WMF So it seems that the previous ticket title was referring to a different bug? Selecting one filter in a group, make... [17:33:30] (03CR) 10Anomie: [C: 032] Remove 'text' as a valid notifications output format [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/334133 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155874) (owner: 10Sbisson) [17:41:46] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Remove 'text' as a valid notifications output format [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/334133 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155874) (owner: 10Sbisson) [17:43:28] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: Remove 'text' as a valid notifications output format [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/334133 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T155874) (owner: 10Sbisson) [17:46:29] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Design: VE+NWE: Move Omega button into Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156349#2977136 (10Esanders) We used the button as a toggle because vertical space is at a premium and it seems wastef... [17:49:38] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): RC - Selecting all filters in a group makes them grey out - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156429#2977157 (10Mooeypoo) Yes, Elena, that's not a bug, that's the spec. When you select one filter out of the group, the rest are **not applying to the list... [18:06:28] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Design: VE+NWE: Move Omega button into Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156349#2977182 (10Nirzar) @Esanders horizontal space is at premium on the toolbar and it seems wasteful to throw away... [18:42:20] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2977334 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [18:53:47] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10MobileFrontend, 10Reading-Community-Engagement, and 3 others: Change how the notification count is displayed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152457#2977364 (10bmansurov) a:05bmansurov>03Nirzar [19:04:21] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 06Language-Team, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, 10MediaWiki-User-preferences: Echo uses Gregorian calendar regardless of user preferences - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154679#2977384 (10Aklapper) Potentially interesting tasks: https://phabricator.wi... [19:07:29] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2977393 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [19:14:25] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2859076 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [19:16:35] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Mention triggeres while using templates for reporting users - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156485#2977448 (10Legoktm) 05Open>03declined > Is it possible to exclude mentions from triggering due to userpage links being from templates rather than the post al... [19:19:39] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2977456 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [19:20:38] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2859076 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [19:23:12] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2977459 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [19:27:46] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2977478 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [19:30:26] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2977494 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [20:24:12] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Design: VE+NWE: Move Omega button into Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156349#2977656 (10Esanders) I wasn't saying there weren't better solutions. Just explaining the decision. [20:31:35] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Design: VE+NWE: Move Omega button into Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156349#2977697 (10Nirzar) just questioning that decision because I see a false logic. it's a choice between **40px ve... [20:49:30] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Design: VE+NWE: Move Omega button into Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156349#2977739 (10Nirzar) furthermore, as this is an unique panel, we can have a close inside the panel {F5378501}... [20:53:20] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Design: VE+NWE: Move Omega button into Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156349#2977749 (10Volker_E) I'd see a panel like proposed in the comment above by @Nirzar as favorable, actually had... [20:59:33] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 10VisualEditor-MediaWiki-2017WikitextEditor, 07Design: VE+NWE: Move Omega button into Insert menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156349#2977761 (10Nirzar) moving symbol out of toolbar has added advantage of that icon with a label. right now the i... [21:12:32] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2977804 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [21:19:08] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2977812 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [21:21:28] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page: Configure filters in a single extensible place - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T152754#2977818 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [21:54:21] matt_flaschen: another question on logic :) In betalabs rc_bot=1 only for 'Flow talk page manager user', yet Bot filter (both old and new) ignore it [21:55:12] matt_flaschen: ok, I'l try to find it out from the code [21:58:34] matt_flaschen: found it - 'rc_bot' => 1 rc_type != '6' [22:00:46] matt_flaschen: argh, still does not make much sense. Probably should save this question for stephanebisson [22:02:54] etonkovidova: where do you see "rc_type != '6'" ? [22:03:09] matt_flaschen: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/321479/3/tests/phpunit/includes/specials/SpecialRecentchangesTest.php [22:03:56] ok, that's a unit test [22:04:00] matt_flaschen: I see now that rc_type=3 and rc_bot=1 refer to Restore archived discussion board action [22:05:22] etonkovidova: what do you mean "both filters ignore it"? [22:05:46] stephanebisson: a sec [22:08:19] stephanebisson: Bot(not human) and Unregistered won't show Flow talk page manager action. But I still need to try the "Restore archived discussion board" action [22:09:53] Flow talk page manager is registered [22:10:18] if you select "unregistrered", which is anons, you are hiding this account [22:12:22] stephanebisson: yes, I know :) Ok, seems like nit picking on my part, but when 'Flow talk page manager' restores Flow board, it's considered as Bot action [22:12:49] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): RCFilters UI: Split ResourceLoader modules - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156532#2978050 (10Mooeypoo) [22:13:20] stephanebisson: anyway, not important, I was sidetracked a little bit with those Bot vs Human action and Flow manager [22:22:00] etonkovidova, I don't know what you mean "Restore archived discussion board action". [22:22:08] Undeletions are done by users, not by Flow talk page manager. [22:23:28] matt_flaschen: when a user switch from Flow talk user page to wikitext via beta features and then back again; recentchanges will store it as "rc_comment: Restore archived discussion board." [22:24:44] matt_flaschen: and it'd be rc_type=3 and, out of curiosity, I checked if RC filter bot=1 filters it as a bot action - it does [22:25:06] matt_flaschen: it's not important - for now, I guess :) [22:26:19] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017): RCFilters UI ViewModel: Create group models in the ViewModel and attach to FilterGroupWidgets - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156533#2978657 (10Mooeypoo) [22:32:32] etonkovidova, okay, I forgot that was the comment we used for opt-in. [22:32:53] matt_flaschen: yup :) [22:33:10] Restore sometimes means undeletion, so I misunderstood. [22:49:29] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage: RC filters - some filter selections create misleading display in Active Filter Display Area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156534#2978740 (10Etonkovidova) [22:53:00] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage: RC filters - some filter selections create misleading display in Active Filter Display Area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156534#2978764 (10Etonkovidova) [22:53:03] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 05MW-1.29-release-notes, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2017-01-31_(1.29.0-wmf.10): Build user interface for Active Filter Display Area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149391#2978763 (10Etonkovidova) [23:08:44] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage: RC filters - some filter selections create misleading display in Active Filter Display Area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156534#2978740 (10jmatazzoni) I suppose it's quite possible that bots do not create category changes. Shoot. Is this another Conflict state? [23:09:33] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 05MW-1.29-release-notes, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2017-01-24_(1.29.0-wmf.9): Build user interface for the Dropdown Filter Panel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149452#2753115 (10Etonkovidova) **(1)... [23:13:39] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage: RC filters - some filter selections create misleading display in Active Filter Display Area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156534#2978788 (10jmatazzoni) Although, I'm not sure I'd necessarily include Bot/Category as a formal Conflict state (with a specialized error message and... [23:19:37] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage: RC filters - some filter selections create misleading display in Active Filter Display Area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156534#2978740 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) "No changes during the given period matching these criteria" means there are no changes in the time period matching the... [23:20:58] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage: RC filters - some filter selections create misleading display in Active Filter Display Area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156534#2978810 (10jmatazzoni) Thanks Matt. Glad to hear this isn't a new Conflict State. [23:21:19] etonkovidova, I think part of T156534 is a misunderstanding. But there does seem to be a real bug, "No active filters. All contributions are shown", when there *are* active filters. Is that filed somewhere? [23:21:20] T156534: RC filters - some filter selections create misleading display in Active Filter Display Area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T156534 [23:29:47] My Firefox right-click stopped working (again). [23:58:26] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q3-Jan-Mar-2017), 10Edit-Review-Improvements-RC-Page, 05MW-1.29-release-notes, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2017-01-31_(1.29.0-wmf.10): Build user interface for Active Filter Display Area - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T149391#2978866 (10Etonkovidova) (1)...