[00:12:39] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 06Analytics-Kanban, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): EL alarms raw/validated 20160926 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146674#2683339 (10Nuria) 05Resolved>03Open [00:18:07] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 06Analytics-Kanban, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): EL alarms raw/validated 20160926 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146674#2683342 (10Nuria) We are still getting tons of events not valid from the C... [00:43:50] (03PS1) 10Legoktm: Make 'flow-skip-summary' clearer [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313773 [01:12:14] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Wikidata, 05MW-1.28-release-notes, and 2 others: Flow\Exception\InvalidInputException displayed after enable/disable Flow talk page beta feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147122#2683381 (10bd808) [10:50:11] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Regression, and 2 others: Flow as a Beta feature: enable, disable and reenable doesn't seem to work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138310#2683891 (10SBisson) [10:50:13] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Wikidata, 05MW-1.28-release-notes, and 2 others: Flow\Exception\InvalidInputException displayed after enable/disable Flow talk page beta feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147122#2683893 (10SBisson) [11:51:20] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 06Analytics-Kanban, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): EL alarms raw/validated 20160926 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146674#2668022 (10Milimetric) quick reminder: User Agents and browsing activity to... [13:29:16] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Thanks, 07Community-Wishlist-Survey: Opt out of Thanks feature - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120753#2684302 (10Aklapper) >>! In T120753#1863188, @Legoktm wrote: > What does "opt-out" mean? You can turn off receiving thanks notifications in your preferences... @The_Quixo... [15:28:33] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Regression, and 2 others: Flow as a Beta feature: enable, disable and reenable doesn't seem to work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138310#2684622 (10bd808) >>! In T138310#2679069, @Mattflaschen-WMF wrote: > Please let me know if any are st... [16:53:34] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Flow wikitext area doesn't respect text formatting option (monospace, sans-serif, etc.) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95831#2684932 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [16:56:46] stephanebisson: on review/sbisson/flow-cache-multi-dc branch Mentions from wikitext pages are not sent nor received. Was it somewhat intentional to disable Mention stuff or it's not important in the context of the branch? :) [16:56:58] stephanebisson: Mention form Flow pages are fine [16:57:32] etonkovidova: Mentions should not be affected. I'll test. [16:57:49] stephanebisson: thx [17:12:18] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 06Analytics-Kanban, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): EL alarms raw/validated 20160926 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146674#2685104 (10Mooeypoo) The fix that was submitted (and that will make sure th... [17:16:12] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 06Analytics-Kanban, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): EL alarms raw/validated 20160926 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146674#2685122 (10Mooeypoo) >>! In T146674#2684070, @Milimetric wrote: > quick rem... [17:22:13] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 06Analytics-Kanban, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): EL alarms raw/validated 20160926 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146674#2668022 (10Catrope) @Nuria The patch has been merged, but could not be depl... [17:46:14] Going to get lunch, then go into the coworking space. [18:00:31] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Parsoid, 10VisualEditor: Flow with VisualEditor adding nonsense on the messages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147115#2685309 (10Esanders) [18:18:32] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 06Analytics-Kanban, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): EL alarms raw/validated 20160926 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146674#2685441 (10Nuria) @Catrope: nah, it doesn't. My mistake, I was under the im... [18:32:59] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Wikipedia logo in Notification popup is not high-density ready - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147219#2685469 (10Volker_E) [18:34:48] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Wikipedia logo in Notification popup is not high-density ready - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147219#2685490 (10Volker_E) [18:38:21] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Wikipedia logo in Notification popup is not high-density ready - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147219#2685507 (10Volker_E) [18:39:17] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration: Remove the "Possible issues" section from PageTriage, if it is empty - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147220#2685514 (10Quiddity) [18:41:03] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow: [minor]'Comments' vs 'posts' terms discrepancy - when posts get deleted/suppressed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144630#2685534 (10jmatazzoni) A discussion about terms in the team meeting today enables me to offer some general language guidance: - **"Post"** is... [18:41:16] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Flow: [minor]'Comments' vs 'posts' terms discrepancy - when posts get deleted/suppressed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144630#2685535 (10jmatazzoni) [18:42:35] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Flow: [minor] Change Flow confirmation message to say "post" instead of 'comments' (when posts are deleted/suppressed) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144630#2605692 (10jmatazzoni) [18:42:59] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Flow: [minor] Change Flow confirmation message to say 'post' instead of 'comments' (when posts are deleted/suppressed) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144630#2605692 (10jmatazzoni) [18:44:12] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Vertical alignment of logos and text in Notifications popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147221#2685548 (10Volker_E) [18:45:32] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Vertical alignment of logos and text in Notifications popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147221#2685564 (10Volker_E) [18:54:41] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] NewPagesFeed should say it does not work in browsers older than IE9 [extensions/PageTriage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313764 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130804) (owner: 10Anantprsd5) [18:56:59] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: NewPagesFeed should say it does not work in browsers older than IE9 [extensions/PageTriage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313764 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130804) (owner: 10Anantprsd5) [18:58:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Wikipedia logo in Notification popup is not high-density ready - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147219#2685469 (10Catrope) Because of technical limitations, this image is not an SVG but a 30x30px PNG rendering of the source SVG. See https://phabricator.wikimedi... [19:02:03] (03PS1) 10VolkerE: ToggleReadCircleButtonWidget: Make circle perfectly round and align color [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313860 [19:13:32] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 031] "LGTM but I'm not fully sold on the hover color change, deferring to Pau on that one" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313860 (owner: 10VolkerE) [19:19:43] (03PS2) 10VolkerE: ToggleReadCircleButtonWidget: Make circle perfectly round and align color [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313860 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141504) [19:20:16] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Wikipedia logo in Notification popup is not high-density ready - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147219#2685685 (10Volker_E) @Catrope That could be still `2x` PNGs that are scaled down then?! The file size shouldn't be a huge difference. [19:20:43] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Wikipedia logo in Notification popup is not high-density ready - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147219#2685686 (10Catrope) Yeah, we can put in 60x60px PNGs scaled to 30x30, that shouldn't be an issue. [19:21:58] etonkovidova: Mentions seem to be ok on my end with the Flow caching patch. If there's a specific scenario that's consistently failling, please send me the steps. [19:23:12] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Vertical alignment of logos and text in Notifications popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147221#2685548 (10Catrope) Do you have a screenshot with non-special things in it? All three things in this screenshot are special: the globe icon is a cross-wiki bundl... [19:24:15] jmatazzoni, quiddity: A screenshot that Volker just sent me reminded me that the footer notice ("Try the redesigned Notifications page") is still enabled. It's probably been up long enough that we can take it down now/soon? [19:24:32] +1 [19:24:45] yes. Any time. Do I need to make a ticket for that? [19:25:02] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 031] "LGTM but asking Pau and Joe for their opinions too" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313773 (owner: 10Legoktm) [19:25:17] I'll just do it right now [19:25:24] It'll take me less time than for you to write a ticket :) [19:26:11] jmatazzoni: Meanwhile, what do you think of https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/313773/1 (changing the "Skip summary" button to just say "Skip")? [19:26:38] This is in Flow so I don't know if you're familiar with that interface; I'll also ask Pau for his input (I think he came up with it in the first place) [19:26:45] and quiddity while he's around [19:28:39] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 03Community-Tech-Sprint: Update PageTriage maintenance tag list to match Twinkle's - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147224#2685748 (10Quiddity) [19:29:13] You're right: i don't see where the "skip summary" button comes into play. Asking Pau is a good idea. [19:29:29] It appears when you resolve a topic [19:29:51] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Wikipedia logo in Notification popup is not high-density ready - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147219#2685750 (10Volker_E) That's from my experience a quite good compromise that also works not only on 1.25+ pixel ratio screens, but 2.25+ ones. I've just learn... [19:30:02] Meanwhile, I've scheduled disabling the footer notice for 4pm today [19:31:03] BTW, it's a good week to kill the special page invitation. I ALMOST made my goal of getting to a 2k pv day last week (1,976). Quit while we're ahead! [19:31:08] And with that I'll go get lunch and walk into the office [19:31:13] haha [19:31:45] RoanKattouw, "skip" seems a bit less clear, but, it avoids confusing it with edit-summary, so I guess it's ok. [19:31:53] ditto lunch [19:32:29] Hmm crap I can't actually be around for the SWAT, I have a conflicting meeting [19:32:47] matt_flaschen: Will you be around for the evening SWAT today? [19:33:12] matt_flaschen: Actually never mind, I'll just bump it to tomorrow [19:34:30] jmatazzoni, quiddity: Small change of plans, we'll take down the footer notice tomorrow at 11am instead of today at 4pm [19:34:37] * RoanKattouw actually leaves now [19:35:08] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Vertical alignment of logos and text in Notifications popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147221#2685760 (10Volker_E) Thanks for the remarks. I've forgotten to draw a line on the right side. The timestamp is not aligned with the read marker nor the close ic... [19:58:17] RoanKattouw, yeah, I'll definitely be here. Should I move the SWAT back to today? [19:58:53] Sure [20:10:42] My recursion bug now only mildly recurses, in that it no longer crashes the wiki but only every single "seenTime" API call. This I call progress. [20:20:30] stephanebisson: so Mentions work on wikitext pages? Hmm... I tried again - cannot make it work [20:21:43] etonkovidova: So it works on master but when you switch to the flow caching patch it doesn't work with the same steps? [20:22:17] stephanebisson: right. Also my preference Notifications have very reduced set - no Failed/Successful mentions, for example [20:22:56] etonkovidova: What are the exact steps? (user, page, edit content... ) [20:24:13] stephanebisson: on a wikitext page watched by user A, enter [[User:A]] ~~~~ as the first line ; user A won't receive any notifications [20:25:12] note to self: When checking why a logging schema is not logging, it might be a good idea to define it as "enabled". [20:25:14] (03PS1) 10VolkerE: Add `box-sizing` mixin [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313888 [20:31:08] stephanebisson: just checked - master does not send mention from wikitext pages either; was different on Fri [20:31:22] stephanebisson: I still think that I should properly update my vagrant [20:34:13] etonkovidova: yes, make sure you're up to date [20:35:40] etonkovidova: if it still doesn't work, try with generateSampleNotifications.php, it's a way to make sure we're doing the same thing [20:38:12] stephanebisson: yes, I am sure it's just my vagrant problem :) I'll run the the script too [21:14:29] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Special:Notifications takes me to desktop view when I'm on the mobile website - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146376#2686084 (10Catrope) [21:14:32] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-Redirects, 06Operations, and 2 others: Flow notification links on mobile point to desktop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107108#2686087 (10Catrope) [21:16:42] matt_flaschen, are you by any chance free for a few minutes to help me with a really weird bug in my code regarding the logging schema and vagrant? [21:17:24] mooeypoo, sure. Hangout call now? [21:17:38] yup [21:18:44] Let me know when or just call [21:22:46] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 13Patch-For-Review: Create rspec tests for Echo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146916#2686108 (10Catrope) [21:23:03] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 07Spike: Investigation: Number of unreviewed pages on English Wikipedia skyrocketing in last few months - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146959#2686110 (10Quiddity) Do we have other dashboards or stats available for tracking: * how many pa... [21:27:55] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016), 07Documentation: Document how to add a new Notification type created by an extension to the Help pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141884#2686121 (10jmatazzoni) [21:27:57] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 07Documentation: Document how to create a new notification type - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136372#2686122 (10jmatazzoni) [21:27:59] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Create a Phabricator form for New Notification types creation request - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146971#2686118 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved a:03jmatazzoni @Trizek-WMF marking as closed. Let me know if you think there's more to do. [21:34:36] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: "There are no notifications" although the page has a notification counter of "1" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147138#2682396 (10Catrope) What's also weird about this screenshot is that the numbers of notifications for the pages don't add up to the total (3+... [21:35:45] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage: Notification items should be real links when possible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147139#2682420 (10Catrope) We could do this with fragments or query strings, and would probably do at least part of it as part of {T135877}. [21:42:05] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 07Regression: [production] Regression: 'Welcome to Wikipedia' notification message has W icon misaligned - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132198#2191239 (10jmatazzoni) This is related to another ticket about the logo T147219 [21:42:28] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 06Collaboration-Team-Triage: Notification items should be real links when possible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147139#2686183 (10Catrope) 05Open>03declined I misunderstood the bug, it sounds like you want a link to the actual page. That wouldn't make sense, because cli... [21:42:37] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Wikipedia logo in Notification popup is not high-density ready - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147219#2685469 (10jmatazzoni) This is related to another ticket about the logo T132198 [21:43:44] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Vertical alignment of logos and text in Notifications popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147221#2686190 (10Catrope) [21:43:47] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 07Regression: [production] Regression: 'Welcome to Wikipedia' notification message has W icon misaligned - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132198#2686193 (10Catrope) [21:45:22] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Vertical alignment of logos and text in Notifications popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147221#2685548 (10Catrope) 05duplicate>03Open Sorry, I should really dupe this in the other direction because this bug documents additional misalignments. [21:45:35] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Vertical alignment of logos and text in Notifications popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147221#2686201 (10Catrope) [21:45:37] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 07Regression: [production] Regression: 'Welcome to Wikipedia' notification message has W icon misaligned - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132198#2191239 (10Catrope) [21:57:39] (03PS4) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Store the number of pageviews users have before seeing notifs [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) [22:02:48] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip] Store the number of pageviews users have before seeing notifs [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [22:19:27] (03PS5) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Store the number of pageviews users have before seeing notifs [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) [22:23:31] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip] Store the number of pageviews users have before seeing notifs [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [22:24:32] (03PS6) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Store the number of pageviews users have before seeing notifs [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) [22:28:40] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip] Store the number of pageviews users have before seeing notifs [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [22:29:47] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Notifications Popup is underlying Hovercards, should be on top - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147237#2686322 (10Volker_E) [22:30:46] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Notifications Popup is underlying Hovercards, should be on top - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147237#2686335 (10Volker_E) [22:31:03] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10Hovercards: Notifications Popup is underlying Hovercards, should be on top - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147237#2686322 (10Volker_E) [22:44:29] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Notify editors that they are now eligible for the Wikipedia Library program - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132084#2686343 (10jmatazzoni) [22:45:47] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Notify editors that they are now eligible for the Wikipedia Library program - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132084#2187762 (10jmatazzoni) Samwalton9, I updated the notification details above and copied that into the task Descripti... [22:46:05] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Notifications, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Notify editors that they are now eligible for the Wikipedia Library program - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132084#2686346 (10jmatazzoni) [22:47:37] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Notifications, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Notify editors that they are now eligible for the Wikipedia Library program - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132084#2187762 (10jmatazzoni) @Pginer-WMF, can you please weigh in on what icon this notificati... [22:48:13] (03PS1) 10Mattflaschen: BoardMover: don't try to save a null edit [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.28.0-wmf.20) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313930 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138310) [22:52:11] mooeypoo, if you want to set up Emacs as a PHP debugger, let me know. [22:55:18] RoanKattouw, added the BoardMover/Flow opt-in fix to the SWAT: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/313930/ [22:55:32] Yeah I saw the cherry-pick and figured that was going to happen [22:55:47] I'm in a meeting till 4:30pm Pacific but if you're around for it then go bonkers [22:57:04] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Add `box-sizing` mixin [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313888 (owner: 10VolkerE) [22:57:54] Yeah, sorry I didn't think to do this earlier. Might have been on Friday, but probably would have been worth it. [22:58:34] matt_flaschen: article-linked event - I do not see it at all in betalabs hmm... [22:58:59] etonkovidova, did you check your preferences. [22:59:42] matt_flaschen, I might take you up on it when I (and you) get back [22:59:51] though I have to say I am not very comfortable with emacs [22:59:54] but that can change [23:00:16] matt_flaschen: well, I cannot check preferences now - error page on betalabs [23:00:49] mooeypoo, yeah, I don't claim it's an Eclipse debugging feel, but it's quite usable if you just want to debug through PHP once in a while. Just schedule a meeting if you decide you want to set it up. [23:01:19] matt_flaschen: I was just surprised not see such events in betalabs echo_event [23:01:56] etonkovidova, the event type is 'page-linked', not to be confused with the category name. [23:02:43] etonkovidova, I acknowledge that is arbitrary (if anything, the category should be page-linked if there were more than one notification type), don't know how that happened. [23:02:46] etonkovidova, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:DisplayNotificationsConfiguration . [23:02:53] Same page is available on Beta Cluster when it's not completely down. [23:03:17] Regarding this, note how it shows which notification types are in each category (categories are in bold here, and show in preferences). [23:03:41] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add `box-sizing` mixin [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313888 (owner: 10VolkerE) [23:04:02] Also note that article-linked is enabled by default only for new users. [23:04:06] (Also shown on that special page). [23:05:43] matt_flaschen: echo_event has both: page-linked and article-linked [23:06:04] matt_flaschen, out of curiosity - what do you usually use to write code? [23:06:13] mooeypoo, also Emacs. [23:06:19] emacs? Or a client-- ah [23:06:24] you're one of *thosssseeee* [23:06:25] :p [23:06:33] jk I never got into writing code in the terminal [23:06:57] mooeypoo, yep. I use the GUI version, though (granted, a relative term when it comes to Emacs). [23:06:59] But whenever I do (like when I work with git -i or stuff like that) I totally feel like the 90s version of a hacker [23:07:19] I should check into that. [23:07:27] Speaking of, I want to try out https://blogs.atlassian.com/2013/05/git-tig/ [23:07:35] I might use it later today for my deployment planning update [23:07:44] I like sublime's two-screen experience (and 4-screen is awesome when i need it) and the ctrl-P opens a file [23:07:57] also, sublime just added popup references which is amazing [23:08:10] mooeypoo, if you just install emacs on a desktop, it should show the X/GUI version, unless you install emacs-nox (or whatever it's called), or specifically run the terminal version. [23:08:48] * mooeypoo shall try [23:08:56] I should use emacs even just for the nerd cred [23:09:25] It's like back in the 90s when "developers" (read: HTML writers) signed their websites with "Written in Notepad!" [23:09:40] Oh, the good ol' days [23:09:41] Still better than "Works best in IE6" [23:09:48] rofl [23:09:58] I bet some sites like that still exist [23:10:11] I found hebrew-flipping sites, so these are probably not hard to find [23:10:49] matt_flaschen: 'article-linked' event is mentioned in "Allow "article-linked" notifications for pages in a user defined list" https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T66090 [23:11:36] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 07Spike: Investigation: Number of unreviewed pages on English Wikipedia skyrocketing in last few months - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146959#2686381 (10kaldari) For the Page Curation/PageTriage interface, it looks like reviews per days... [23:11:50] etonkovidova: Yeah, but that's not its proper name, it's page-linked. But then article-linked is the name of the category that contains page-linked, which is silly [23:11:55] etonkovidova, well, it's a fine distinction, and that report is from a user anyway, not a developer. [23:12:30] etonkovidova, so you found both 'article-linked' and 'page-linked' as event_type (I thoguht you said there were no 'article-linked' before)? I guess it changed at some point. [23:12:36] Oh yeah as a user you would only see article-linked, not page-linked [23:12:39] Wait, what?! [23:12:48] There shouldn't be any rows with event_type='article-linked' [23:12:56] But I also don't see where etonkovidova said that [23:12:57] matt_flaschen: and I was trying to find out the fathom notificaiton reported in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147138 [23:13:05] As a user, you would only see 'Page link' in preferences. [23:13:14] matt_flaschen: yes [23:13:18] matt_flaschen: echo_event has both: page-linked and article-linked [23:13:22] ^ RoanKattouw [23:13:52] RoanKattouw: in mediawikiwiki article-linked is what happened in https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147138 [23:14:12] wtf [23:14:28] RoanKattouw: matt_flaschen : I was surprised to see that betalabs does not have 'article-linked' event s at all [23:15:00] RoanKattouw: but mediawikiwiki has article-linked [23:16:44] etonkovidova: Are any of them non-ancient? [23:16:58] Like, 2014 or later [23:17:02] etonkovidova, that makes sense if it was changed, since MW.org was an early Echo deploy (see wmgEchoCluster in InitialiseSettings.php). [23:17:02] RoanKattouw: ancient, yes [23:17:46] RoanKattouw: hmm... it just could not be that the 2013 notificaiton appears on Special:Notificaitons page. Or could it be? :) [23:19:58] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 07Spike: Investigation: Number of unreviewed pages on English Wikipedia skyrocketing in last few months - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146959#2686398 (10kaldari) It looks like page patrolling levels remained relatively steady throughout... [23:32:18] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 07Spike: Investigation: Number of unreviewed pages on English Wikipedia skyrocketing in last few months - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146959#2686431 (10kaldari) According to https://stats.wikimedia.org/EN/TablesWikipediaEN.htm, the numb... [23:38:00] (03CR) 10Thcipriani: [C: 032] "SWAT" [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.28.0-wmf.20) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313930 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138310) (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [23:41:18] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: Vertical alignment of logos and text in Notifications popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147221#2686471 (10Mooeypoo) Also, let's check what the svg images actually are -- some of the SVGs have spacing already and some don't; the code can't recognize that, s... [23:43:25] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 06Community-Tech, 07Spike: Investigation: Number of unreviewed pages on English Wikipedia skyrocketing in last few months - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146959#2686476 (10DannyH) [23:44:31] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: BoardMover: don't try to save a null edit [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.28.0-wmf.20) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313930 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138310) (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [23:44:54] RoanKattouw, I'm confused. You merged T132198 into T147221 but now T147221 doesn't show the comments from T132198... O.o [23:44:54] T147221: Vertical alignment of logos and text in Notifications popup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147221 [23:44:55] T132198: [production] Regression: 'Welcome to Wikipedia' notification message has W icon misaligned - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132198 [23:47:28] mooeypoo: "merging" doesn't mean merging [23:47:33] It doesn't show comments from one task on another, evert [23:47:35] *ever [23:47:42] "Merging" merely means "marking as duplicate" [23:48:11] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 06Community-Tech-Tool-Labs, 10DBA, and 5 others: Enable Flow on wikitech (labswiki and labtestwiki), then turn on for Tool talk namespace - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127792#2686484 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) We should either: * Update wikitech-static scripts immediat... [23:50:39] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 06Community-Tech, 07Spike: Investigation: Number of unreviewed pages on English Wikipedia skyrocketing in last few months - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146959#2686495 (10kaldari) In order for new code to have affected the PageTriage r... [23:54:28] RoanKattouw, ah [23:54:39] okay because the other task answered some of the question of this one, I thought [23:54:45] anyways, I'm off to prepare for Road Tripping [23:54:51] Have a great week everyone, see you next week! [23:55:45] mooeypoo, Shanah Tovah, and have a good holiday, except the one that isn't supposed to be good. ;) [23:55:55] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 13Patch-For-Review: Enable Flow as a Beta feature in Greek Wikipedia (elwiki) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144384#2597830 (10Etonkovidova) Checked on elwiki - `wmf.20-1.28.0 ` Users(old and... [23:56:06] hehe same to you :) [23:57:00] We need to turn off the Flow Beta Feature on MediaWiki.org. [23:57:14] I tried to test the SWAT and was really confused (why didn't it create an empty Flow board? Oh yeah...) [23:58:15] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Flow: Turn off Flow Beta Feature on wikis with Flow on user talk by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T147241#2686503 (10Mattflaschen-WMF)