[00:02:41] Exactly [00:02:41] :\ [00:02:50] so ... we could try and invalidate the data otherwise, but... [00:03:16] I mean, we could get 'max' instead of 'min' and check > instead of !== when comparing counter seenTime validation [00:03:26] but... yeah, we need to really make sure we're doing things consistenyly and that they make sense [00:04:05] Going to break for dinner. I'll be back on late. [00:04:13] bon apetit, matt_flaschen [06:01:57] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Flow Talk Page unable to show Correct Username using [[subst:PAGENAME]] Function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146868#2673206 (101233thehongkonger) [06:02:24] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Flow Talk Page unable to show Correct Username using {{subst:PAGENAME}} Function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146868#2673219 (101233thehongkonger) [06:03:13] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Impossible to access to a Flow talk page after enabling/disabling Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146617#2673220 (101233thehongkonger) [06:03:47] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Flow Talk Page unable to show Correct Username using {{subst:PAGENAME}} Function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146868#2673206 (101233thehongkonger) p:05Triage>03Normal [07:06:49] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 06Community-Liaisons, 07Documentation: Create an help page about Flow history system - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113581#2673257 (10Qgil) Oh sorry, now I realize that this task is blocked by three other tasks that have been inactive for a long time. @Trizek-WMF,... [07:08:48] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 06Community-Liaisons, 07Documentation: Create a page about (more) advanced Flow features - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111529#2673258 (10Qgil) Oh sorry, now I realize that this task is blocked by three other tasks that have been inactive for a long time. @Trizek-... [07:16:41] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons, and 3 others: Create a general public documentation for Flow (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111367#1602419 (10Qgil) This Stalled task is blocked by other Stalled tasks that have been inactive f... [07:56:12] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 06Community-Liaisons, 07Documentation: Create an help page about Flow history system - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113581#2673331 (10Trizek-WMF) a:05Trizek-WMF>03None [07:56:24] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 06Community-Liaisons, 07Documentation: Create a page about (more) advanced Flow features - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111529#2673332 (10Trizek-WMF) a:05Trizek-WMF>03None [07:56:39] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons, and 3 others: Create a general public documentation for Flow (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111367#2673334 (10Trizek-WMF) a:05Trizek-WMF>03None [08:19:03] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GuidedTour: Create a guided tour about Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112757#2673406 (10Trizek-WMF) a:05Trizek-WMF>03None Nope. I think it can be an interesting and triv... [08:27:17] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Oct-Dec-2016), 05Goal: Help to define next steps concerning Flow development, based on the Flow Satisfaction Survey - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137796#2379110 (10Qgil) [08:54:02] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2673479 (10Trizek-WMF) Would it be possi... [09:30:57] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2673539 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T146333#26... [09:33:38] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2673588 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T146333#26... [09:48:27] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2673633 (10Qgil) [10:35:40] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Regression: Flow as a Beta feature: enable, disable and reenable doesn't seem to work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138310#2673747 (10SBisson) [10:35:42] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Impossible to access to a Flow talk page after enabling/disabling Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146617#2673749 (10SBisson) [11:00:42] (03CR) 10Sbisson: [C: 04-1] Add proper QUnit tests (032 comments) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/311063 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [11:07:05] (03CR) 10Sbisson: [C: 04-1] "$cache->merge() is what we're trying to get rid of in Flow. It might be better to use WANObjectCache for this." [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [11:14:13] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Flow Talk Page unable to show Correct Username using {{subst:PAGENAME}} Function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146868#2673772 (10Aklapper) Hi @1233thehongkonger, thanks for taking the time to report this! Unfortunately this report lacks some information. If you have... [11:21:18] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2673777 (10Aklapper) Note that the specific comment was created by [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:MediaWiki_message_delivery | MediaWiki m... [11:37:47] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Flow: Create a lockdown configuration for Flow on Enwiki to prevent anyone at all from creating new Flow boards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146727#2673782 (10Aklapper) [11:57:02] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Flow: Create a lockdown configuration for Flow on Enwiki to prevent anyone at all from creating new Flow boards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146727#2669485 (10Alsee) What is the point of re-opening this task? It was created based on a miscomm... [12:03:36] (03PS4) 10Aklapper: Parse feedback as wikitext. [extensions/MoodBar] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/49474 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/32018) (owner: 10Nischayn22) [13:54:10] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2673633 (10Johan) It's probably a good thing you can't thank the MediaWiki message delivery bot (if nothing else, it means you're told the person... [14:25:26] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016), 07Documentation: Document how to add a new Notification type created by an extension to the Help pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141884#2674208 (10Trizek-WMF) [14:25:42] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2674209 (10Qgil) Ah, at least I understand the problem now. [14:30:36] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 07Documentation: Document how to create a new notification type - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136372#2674229 (10Trizek-WMF) On {T141884}, I'm working on creating https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Notifications/Create_a_new_notification-type. @Mooeypoo... [14:40:48] (03CR) 10Sbisson: [C: 032] Used parsed section titles for anchors [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313136 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134216) (owner: 10Catrope) [14:41:38] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." when trying to thank a bot - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2674246 (10Trizek-WMF) [14:42:07] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." when trying to thank a bot - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2673633 (10Trizek-WMF) Then, the idea behind that task would be th have a clearer message? [14:46:16] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016), 07Documentation: Document how to add a new Notification type created by an extension to the Help pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141884#2674273 (10Trizek-WMF) Draft done: ht... [14:46:48] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Used parsed section titles for anchors [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313136 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134216) (owner: 10Catrope) [15:42:05] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." when trying to thank a bot - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2674389 (10Johan) I'd say that is the best solution – thanking the message system isn't going to be very useful, and ev... [16:09:41] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Flow Talk Page unable to show Correct Username using {{subst:PAGENAME}} Function - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146868#2674538 (10Catrope) [16:09:43] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Flow: magic words (e.g., {{PAGENAME}}) don't work in board header and posts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T56892#2674541 (10Catrope) [16:13:43] (03CR) 10Catrope: "My understanding is that because $cache is a stash in this case, calling merge() is not an issue. But I'll ask Aaron to take a look." [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [16:23:22] matt_flaschen: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313052 [16:28:04] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." when trying to thank a bot - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2673633 (10Quiddity) It should not be possible to thank a bot. Those "Thank" links are already removed from History/Dif... [16:30:30] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." when trying to thank a bot - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2674634 (10Quiddity) [16:33:36] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage: Create rspec tests for Echo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146916#2674646 (10Etonkovidova) [16:41:19] (03PS1) 10Etonkovidova: WIP RSpec test for Mention notificationon [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313221 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146916) [16:45:24] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP RSpec test for Mention notificationon [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313221 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146916) (owner: 10Etonkovidova) [16:57:20] (03PS2) 10Etonkovidova: WIP RSpec test for Mention notificationon [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313221 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146916) [16:58:18] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons, and 2 others: Update Help:Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119713#2674739 (10Trizek-WMF) [16:58:20] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016), 07Documentation: Create a glossary about Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141429#2674736 (10Trizek-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved That glossary was left as a draft too long. [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/He... [16:58:55] (03PS3) 10Etonkovidova: WIP RSpec test for Mention notificationon [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313221 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146916) [17:02:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] WIP RSpec test for Mention notificationon [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313221 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146916) (owner: 10Etonkovidova) [17:11:57] (03CR) 10Mooeypoo: Add proper QUnit tests (032 comments) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/311063 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [17:48:43] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2674868 (10Trizek-WMF) >>! In T146333#26... [18:04:32] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2674898 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) >>! In T146... [18:16:02] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2674944 (10jmatazzoni) Benoit writes: >... [18:17:11] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2674948 (10Halfak) I use "most obvious"... [18:21:14] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 04-1] Add mention failure notifications to Flow (031 comment) [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/308555 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144614) (owner: 10Addshore) [18:23:04] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2674980 (10Halfak) I meant to leave a no... [18:26:49] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 06Analytics-Kanban, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): EL alarms raw/validated 20160926 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146674#2674986 (10Nuria) 05Open>03Resolved [18:43:46] (03CR) 10Krinkle: [wip] Store the number of pageviews users have before seeing notifs (031 comment) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [19:04:05] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Thanks: "Thank action failed (error code: invalidrecipient). Please try again." when trying to thank a bot - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146883#2675101 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [19:05:25] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 07Documentation: Document how to create a new notification type - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136372#2332510 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) It needs to be merged into or replace https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Notifications/Developer_guide . [19:06:18] ^ mooeypoo Trizek [19:06:30] Breaking for lunch [19:11:32] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2675140 (10jmatazzoni) @Halfak points ou... [19:37:52] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2675197 (10Halfak) It's at least confusi... [19:53:43] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 07Documentation: Document how to create a new notification type - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136372#2675229 (10jmatazzoni) @Benoit, this page is looking good. I have one suggestion for improvement: users will definitely want to consult the glossary on... [19:56:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Flow: Create a lockdown configuration for Flow on Enwiki to prevent anyone at all from creating new Flow boards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146727#2675236 (10Quiddity) @Alsee I wrote this to address the concerns that @BethNaught mentioned at... [20:02:08] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow: Compare selected revisions for Flow history - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108407#1520217 (10Alsee) Highlighting new posts only works for the narrow use case. After a Flow board had been messed up by a series of edits then fixed, I had to open it in two tabs side-by-... [21:18:20] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 07Technical-Debt: Standardize the naming of Echo's "panel" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110158#2675645 (10Quiddity) [21:44:40] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2675775 (10Catrope) >>! In T146333#26749... [22:02:30] test [22:02:47] ping jmatazzoni_____ [22:04:56] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Regression, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): [betalabs] Notification about Mention on wikitext pages does not link to the section where Mention occurred if links, templates e... - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134216#2675801 [22:05:16] ping jmatazzoni [22:07:44] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Revision-Scoring-As-A-Service, 10rsaas-editquality: Research how to present ORES scores to users in a way that is understandable and meets their reviewing goals - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146333#2675817 (10Halfak) I generally agree, bu... [22:07:50] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 07Regression: [regression-betalabs] Notifications from deleted topic displayed on Special:Notifications page and in the notification panel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146328#2675822 (10Etonkovidova) [22:09:46] jmatazzoni_____, [22:09:59] jmatazzoni_____, ping [22:10:35] jmatazzoni_____, ping [22:11:58] jmatazzoni_____, ping ping ping [22:13:51] (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: [C: 032] "Looks good, works locally." [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313052 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138310) (owner: 10Sbisson) [22:19:46] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 07Regression: [regression-betalabs] Notifications from deleted topic displayed on Special:Notifications page and in the notification panel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146328#2675848 (10Etonkovidova) Thanks, @SBisson - seems that all is fine now. Re-check... [22:19:58] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 07Regression: [regression-betalabs] Notifications from deleted topic displayed on Special:Notifications page and in the notification panel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146328#2675849 (10Etonkovidova) 05Open>03Resolved [22:20:26] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: BoardMover: don't try to save a null edit [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313052 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138310) (owner: 10Sbisson) [23:05:50] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 04-1] (re)Add JavaScript hooks to Notifications (037 comments) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/312940 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146296) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [23:30:40] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 06Analytics-Kanban, 10MediaWiki-extensions-WikimediaEvents, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-10-04_(1.28.0-wmf.21): EL alarms raw/validated 20160926 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T146674#2668022 (10Etonkovidova) no "clientValidated":false" was found in vagrant l... [23:31:07] jmatazzoni: Yay! [23:54:06] (03CR) 10Aaron Schulz: "Any write to the main stash on GET will involve cross-DC I/O for some users and thus high overhead." [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/313148 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114841) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)