[00:58:05] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications: The Great Echo Database Cleanup of 2016 - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143963#2635516 (10Halfak) [01:37:15] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-09-13_(1.28.0-wmf.19): Remove etp_user from echo_target_page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143959#2584705 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in betalabs as general regression testing. Dropped indexes are not seemed to be u... [04:12:17] Put up the NewUserMessage patch: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131957 [04:12:23] Have a good night, everyone. [05:49:00] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage (Collab-Team-Q2-Oct-Dec-2016), 10Edit-Review-Improvements: Evaluate need to productize ERI model-training software - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145568#2635713 (10Trizek-WMF) Ping @Johan, who has plans to work on ORES support. [05:58:16] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016): Create a distribution list for Flow satisfaction survey and distribute it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144547#2635719 (10Trizek-WMF) At the moment, 17.47% of recorded answers are from MediaWiki wiki, despite the fact that no... [06:12:38] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016), 07Surveys: Work on a satisfaction survey concerning Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125632#2635723 (10Trizek-WMF) >>! In T125632#2634467, @egalvezwmf wrote: > How many responses... [06:17:21] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Thanks, 07User-notice: Allow thanks of log entry - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T60485#2635724 (10Trizek-WMF) I have a [[ https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_utilisateur:Trizek_(WMF)/Archive_1#Bonjour | new feedback ]] from a user, to thank an admin for a blocking act... [06:23:09] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016), 07Surveys: Work on a satisfaction survey concerning Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125632#2635728 (10Trizek-WMF) [06:23:11] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016): Create a distribution list for Flow satisfaction survey and distribute it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144547#2635726 (10Trizek-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved [06:23:57] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 06Community-Liaisons (Jul-Sep-2016): Create a distribution list for Flow satisfaction survey and distribute it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144547#2603185 (10Trizek-WMF) I've posted announcements on Mediawiki.org community discussion pages. I consider that dist... [06:44:48] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Pywikibot-Flow, 10Thanks, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, and 3 others: Pywikibot support for Thanks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129049#2635777 (1001tonythomas) [06:44:51] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Thanks, 10Pywikibot-Thanks, 10Pywikibot-core, 05Google-Summer-of-Code-2016: Pywikibot Support for Thanks (GSoC Proposal) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130585#2635775 (1001tonythomas) 05Open>03declined End of project timeline. Closing it down. Thank you for all th... [08:52:05] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-09-13_(1.28.0-wmf.19): Make the notification highlights work better across wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855#2636087 (10Pginer-WMF) I had a quick related conversation with @Mooeypoo about the highlight on... [09:23:14] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Feed: Add New User calculation and flag to the ERI feed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145159#2636227 (10Pginer-WMF) > But it sounds like Pau has something different in mind. Pau, what is your scenario? And what would the definition be? I think... [09:39:00] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 10Design Research and product team collaboration, 06Design-Research, and 2 others: [Epic] New editor support strategies research - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137987#2636273 (10Pginer-WMF) [09:39:04] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 07Design: Explore design solutions for finding users to help reviewing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T137783#2636274 (10Pginer-WMF) [09:39:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Edit-Review-Improvements, 06Design-Research: Page Curation user workflows and Edit Review prototype concept validation - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140161#2636271 (10Pginer-WMF) 05Resolved>03declined I think that "declined" captures better the final state of this ti... [09:57:36] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Send mentions when editing multiple sections in between sections. [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/304198 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141863) (owner: 10WMDE-Fisch) [10:06:37] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Send mentions when editing multiple sections in between sections. [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/304198 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T141863) (owner: 10WMDE-Fisch) [10:26:11] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 04-1] "Needs a manual rebase!" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/308562 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138938) (owner: 10Jakob) [10:37:12] (03PS3) 10Jakob: Send notification for mentions on changes [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/308562 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138938) [10:40:59] (03CR) 10Addshore: [C: 032] Send notification for mentions on changes [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/308562 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138938) (owner: 10Jakob) [10:47:48] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Send notification for mentions on changes [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/308562 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138938) (owner: 10Jakob) [11:35:25] (03PS1) 10Addshore: Count the number of success & failure notifs sent [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310524 [13:34:19] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Feed: Add New User calculation and flag to the ERI feed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145159#2636696 (10Halfak) > Editors with 100 edits per month or more. The 'per month' of this makes it strangely defined. This seems to conflate activity lev... [14:18:02] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Feed: Add New User calculation and flag to the ERI feed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145159#2636815 (10Halfak) I'm thinking that it might be best to associate with community consensus definitions that are baked into the software. If we use the... [14:55:30] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "check experimental" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310408 (owner: 10L10n-bot) [14:58:23] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Notify editors that a new Wikipedia Library database is available to them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131210#2636932 (10Trizek-WMF) Mmmh. Good point, but there is potentially the same expectation from some other initiatives: I on... [14:58:41] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Notify editors that a new Wikipedia Library database is available to them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131210#2636933 (10Trizek-WMF) Mmmh. Good point, but there is potentially the same expectation from some other initiatives: I on... [15:11:52] stephanebisson: yesterdays looking into https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T143959 "Remove etp_user...", I noticed that mysql:research@x1-analytics-slave [(none)]> SELECT * FROM INFORMATION_SCHEMA.INDEX_STATISTICS; [15:12:24] stephanebisson: returns empty set. Indexes are not used in echo_tables? All other indexes seems to be fine... [15:12:59] etonkovidova: Indexes are not used in any echo tables? [15:13:17] stephanebisson: that's what I saw with the query above [15:13:48] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Feed: Add New User calculation and flag to the ERI feed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145159#2637024 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T145159#2636696, @Halfak wrote: >> Editors with 100 edits per month or more. > > The 'per month' of this makes it strange... [15:13:50] stephanebisson: the same empty set for echo tables in betalabs Maybe, it [15:13:53] etonkovidova: that would be very surprising that no index at all is used [15:14:14] stephanebisson: yeah, that's why I am asking :) [15:14:46] stephanebisson: all other indexes are used - at least the same query shows numbers for many other indexes [15:15:55] Maybe the Echo tables are used from a different database? [15:16:47] stephanebisson: hmmm... yes, I think there is something like that. Not sure [15:17:20] stephanebisson: ok, I guess, I'll ask Roan ... [15:17:41] stephanebisson: with postgresql I'd believe that it [15:17:49] Or Matt may know [15:17:49] d be the case [15:18:10] stephanebisson: but mysql show index usage in straightforward way [15:25:13] stephanebisson: never mind :) it's just that I do not have user privilege in production db to SET GLOBAL userstat=1; to view statistics on x1 slave where echo tables are stored [15:39:19] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Feed: Add New User calculation and flag to the ERI feed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145159#2637161 (10Halfak) The measurement needs of analysis differ from the needs of a user doing reviewing work. In the case of analysis, we often choose to... [16:30:16] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Feed: Add New User calculation and flag to the ERI feed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145159#2637330 (10Trizek-WMF) >>! In T145159#2636815, @Halfak wrote: >* Experienced == Extended confirmed (enwiki: 30 days tenure and at least 500 edits) You c... [16:42:47] (03PS1) 10Aaron Schulz: Various cleanups to onArticleDeleteComplete() [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310581 [17:04:50] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Edit-Review-Improvements-Feed: Add New User calculation and flag to the ERI feed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145159#2637550 (10Halfak) > Communities are not considering [people come back after a substantial wikibreak] as experienced That seems extreme. Can you point... [17:47:00] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Regression: "TypeError: moment is undefined" when using Echo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145382#2628211 (10Etonkovidova) The page [[ https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilfe:Echo | Hilfe:Echo]] allows to click on the notification ba... [18:00:30] mooeypoo: re https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144538 "New Echo messages do not support {{GENDER:}}" - those new types of notifications are not in UI yet? [18:04:38] (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: [C: 032] Various cleanups to onArticleDeleteComplete() [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310581 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz) [18:06:44] etonkovidova, they're not new notifications. They're enhancements to existing ones, to allow watching and unwatching from the notification itself. [18:07:03] Getting lunch tnen going into the coworking space. [18:07:51] matt_flaschen: thx [18:08:03] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, and 2 others: Remind me of this article in X days - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T2582#2637742 (10Sumit) @Mattflaschen-WMF , @Mvolz , @SBisson , @jmatazzoni what do you think? can we chalk something... [18:12:22] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Various cleanups to onArticleDeleteComplete() [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310581 (owner: 10Aaron Schulz) [18:44:48] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, and 4 others: New Echo messages do not support {{GENDER:}} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144538#2602917 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in betalabs. With the setting " (When mentioning you, the software will use gen... [19:02:57] (03PS2) 10Mooeypoo: Convert 'seenTime' to a global property [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310460 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855) [19:03:20] etonkovidova, what do you mean they're not in the UI yet? [19:04:02] mooeypoo: never mind ... I just mixed it up with something else. matt_flaschen told me [19:04:59] etonkovidova, I think there are 2 messages that are "base" messages (unwatching a page) that actually don't appear in the UI -- they are being replaced by Flow's "unwatch" messages, and we only have flow unwatch topic/boards right now [19:05:09] if we ever have 'unwatch this page' in *general* those two general messages will appear [19:05:26] but testing with the Flow messages should be enough to verify -- and I looked at the Hebrew messages you posted, they look good gender-wise [19:05:27] mooeypoo: right [19:06:03] And I think the base seenTime change is ready for review [19:06:14] I'm going to add the removal of flashing in the special page on top of it [19:06:36] and now that we have seen time as global, I'll try to get the badge to render as gray when you visit the special page itself [19:06:53] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Convert 'seenTime' to a global property [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310460 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [19:07:05] mooeypoo: btw, I checked russian and deutsch - those messages are gender neutral. But they also depends on the phrasing I guess, not only on the grammar features of languages [19:07:12] * mooeypoo has a convoluted idea RoanKattouw will hate, but RoanKattouw is not here... muaha [19:07:37] etonkovidova, hm we need to check if the translators put in a m/f message in there, too [19:07:57] the original english message didn't have the {{GENDER}} tag, so some translators may have just played on neutral without gender'izing the message [19:08:26] in Hebrew "neutral" is weird, so the translators probably made the effort to properly translate despite my oversight of not explicitly tagging "gender" in there, and then found the issue [19:08:44] Now that I changed the base message, though, it *should* flag it for translators to re-translate [19:08:48] so hopefully that will be better in a few days [19:08:55] mooeypoo: oh, can you take a look at the screenshots I added to https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144538? It's in Hebrew and I am not sure if they actually captured the gender difference [19:09:25] Yep, I looked -- the first screenshot is "neutral" (no such thing in Hebrew, but close enough) and the second is female-form [19:09:30] so it seems to be correct [19:09:53] mooeypoo: hurray! [19:10:05] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-Internationalization, and 4 others: New Echo messages do not support {{GENDER:}} - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144538#2637931 (10Mooeypoo) Verified in Hebrew -- these two messages look correct. The first is "neutral" and the second... [19:10:11] mooeypoo: thx [19:10:23] np! glad it works [19:10:39] it's a weird bug, I still think something's wrong in MW's language behavior here [19:18:22] o/ jmatazzoni___ [19:18:36] yes? [19:18:37] Was wondering if we could talk more about what the MVP for filtering would look like. [19:18:47] Happy to. Is now good? [19:18:56] Yup! [19:19:03] Want to hangout me? [19:19:11] I think that the issues about what we test were wrapped up in confusion about what would be in the MVP. [19:19:41] Oh... sure. That works too [19:24:43] (03PS3) 10Mooeypoo: Convert 'seenTime' to a global property [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310460 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855) [19:29:13] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Convert 'seenTime' to a global property [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310460 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [19:30:20] (03PS4) 10Mooeypoo: Convert 'seenTime' to a global property [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310460 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855) [19:34:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Convert 'seenTime' to a global property [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310460 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [19:43:15] (03PS5) 10Mooeypoo: Convert 'seenTime' to a global property [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310460 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855) [19:46:23] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Regression: "TypeError: moment is undefined" when using Echo - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T145382#2628211 (10greg) resolved? (just checking open UBN!s) [19:47:56] mooeypoo, I'm going to take a quick look at the {{GENDER:}} thing. [19:50:34] That syntax is even used in MW core. [19:53:01] matt_flaschen, yes, and yet it didn't work here. I looked at the code, it seems to take into account the ui user -- I am wondering if in our case it was some sort of context issue [19:53:25] like, the messages were created without the proper reference to the viewing user, or something? Because they came from the API? Could that be the disconnect? [19:53:27] mooeypoo, yeah, I understand, trying to track it down with fileexists (which uses the syntax as an English example) [19:53:56] mooeypoo, what do you mean "they came from the API"? I would expect it to use $wgUser if there is no ContextSource user. [19:55:06] matt_flaschen, I was trying to think what's different about these messages as opposed to all other messages, but I think that's actually not quite right -- all of the messages that the UI uses come from the API built by presentation models, same as these ones [19:55:14] Hm now I'm wondering if any of them works [19:55:18] * mooeypoo tests with "welcome" [19:56:00] what the [19:56:08] ... my xwiki bundles opens-and-closes immediately [19:56:11] what the hell [19:57:20] mooeypoo, I tested with a core message, and it works. [19:57:40] I will put it up just to show you, I need a broken example to test further. [19:59:03] matt_flaschen, the "broken" example can be just taking out the user parameter from the echo 'unwatch' messages [19:59:10] that didn't work :( [19:59:48] (03PS6) 10Mooeypoo: Convert 'seenTime' to a global property [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310460 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855) [20:00:17] ^ mooeypoo, core demo: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/310624/ [20:01:55] mooeypoo, in general I think this is what getViewingUserForGender is for, but I would still like to know why it's not working. [20:02:58] yeah [20:05:56] (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: [C: 04-2] "Need to test then put up a small fix." [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/307464 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123522) (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [20:07:43] this is weird. Why is it not working... [20:07:47] brb [20:09:02] mooeypoo, reproduced. [20:21:03] matt_flaschen, with the fileexists message or the echo message? [20:21:32] mooeypoo, Echo (well, the Flow override). [20:21:44] mooeypoo, it's really weird, the parser doesn't think it's an interface message. Still debugging through. [20:22:21] Hmm [20:22:34] so it's not context of the presentation model, but this specific message? [20:22:56] mooeypoo, no, I didn't check other messages. [20:23:23] Yeah I'm just wondering if it's something in the presentation model or something with specific type or something in message [20:24:22] Yeah, inconclusive. [20:28:49] mooeypoo, apparently, because we set the language, fix coming. [20:29:01] What do you mean? [20:36:24] mooeypoo, it's a bit weird, for some reason (which I didn't take the time to fully ->inLanguage resets "is this a UI(-language) message" to false, which in turn means the default-user is no longer available. [20:37:18] I'm not sure why we use inLanguage anyway, but we might need to. [20:39:57] (03PS1) 10Mattflaschen: Fix GENDER without explicit parameter [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310667 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144538) [20:40:22] ^ mooeypoo [20:43:16] wow [20:43:23] I had no idea about this flag [20:43:56] also why is inLanguage even touching this flag [20:44:10] Me neither, but I'm sure there's some reason. (There's a lot of weird things that based on what I skimmed might be relevant, like how you can use {{int:}} in content pages, transclude special pages into content, etc.) [20:44:40] yeah, the flag seems reasonable, but I'm not sure why inLanguage would change that flag at all [20:44:49] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 06Discovery, 10Kartographer, 06Maps: is not visible in Flow (blank frame) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T140920#2638331 (10Yurik) [20:45:06] (03CR) 10Mooeypoo: [C: 032] Fix GENDER without explicit parameter [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310667 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144538) (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [20:51:35] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix GENDER without explicit parameter [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310667 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T144538) (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [20:57:41] (03PS6) 10Mattflaschen: Add a server-side MessagePoster for Flow [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/307464 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123522) [20:57:58] (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: "Ready for review" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/307464 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123522) (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [21:08:42] mooeypoo, you were saying Vagrant was slow a little while ago. Did you have the trick enabled disable logging? When I first did it, I got a big speed boost from that. ^ stephanebisson, etonkovidova [21:08:44] $wgDebugLogFile = ''; [21:09:12] Of course, I thought of this after wondering a few days ago why logging isn't working... But logs for specific channels still work, and you can just comment it out the times when you do want logging. [21:09:15] we need to make it easy to move the logs into the VM [21:09:23] matt_flaschen: I never complained :) but I can try your suggestion [21:09:42] matt_flaschen, let me try [21:09:52] writing files in the VM is much faster than over nfs/vmbox shares [21:10:06] Yeah [21:10:10] matt_flaschen, I have that in my local settings [21:10:34] mooeypoo, yeah, I told you about it before, just wondering if you still had it. Oh well. [21:11:36] yeah, I didn't remember, but apparently I did [21:11:37] :\ [21:11:41] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Notifications: read-only mode for Notifications/Flow does not display user-friendly message - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129925#2638466 (10Etonkovidova) [21:17:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10Notifications: read-only mode for Notifications/Flow does not display user-friendly message - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129925#2638479 (10Etonkovidova) [21:20:23] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 05Language-Engineering July-September 2016: PageTriage does not support Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85030#2638507 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) a:03Mattflaschen-WMF [21:20:57] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration: PageTriage does not support Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85030#2638510 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [23:36:06] (03PS1) 10Mooeypoo: Update the badges' seen state when Special:Notifications is visited [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/310698 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134855) [23:36:20] matt_flaschen, nothing like RoanKattouw being away for testing things he will probably cringe at... ^^ [23:36:57] I cringe at this, but I don't think there's a much better way except for creating some global model.. which we might want to do at some point, but there's no real need for that complexity. [23:39:04] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10The-Wikipedia-Library: Notify editors that a new Wikipedia Library database is available to them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131210#2638928 (10Quiddity) >>! In T131210#2636932, @Trizek-WMF wrote: > I think there is two things to consider before we move... [23:40:14] matt_flaschen, though in this case, since I'm using a widget to manipulate an external item in the DOM, I think "how bad does stephane twitches at this" will be the better measure [23:41:07] mooeypoo, will take a look in a few minutes. [23:41:42] matt_flaschen, yeah, not urgent, it also depends on the global seentime commit [23:42:12] I was testing out a bunch of ways to get the badges to get updated when the special page updates the "seen" time.. this was the least complicated way to go [23:43:24] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, and 2 others: Remind me of this article in X days - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T2582#31795 (10jmatazzoni) A question: I know Collab Team manages the Notification system, but I don't want us to be... [23:47:40] 06Collaboration-Team-Triage, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown, 10Possible-Tech-Projects, and 2 others: Remind me of this article in X days - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T2582#31795 (10Mooeypoo) It's probably not for our triage column, but it might be a good Outreachy/GSoC internship pr...