[08:34:34] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 10Wikidata, 07Need-volunteer, and 2 others: [Story] Notification: Add notification when page is being connected to Wikidata - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110604#2446655 (10Lydia_Pintscher) Hey Echo team :) Can someone fromm your side give this the f... [08:51:35] 10Notifications, 06TCB-Team, 03TCB-Team-Sprint-2016-06-29: Update mention sending information - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138918#2413920 (10Addshore) We probably shouldn't add each part until it has actually been merged! [09:39:17] (03CR) 10WMDE-Fisch: "I think grouping on the SpecialPage generally not available." (032 comments) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/295351 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136326) (owner: 10WMDE-Fisch) [10:59:55] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant, 13Patch-For-Review: Split Flow role - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133629#2237725 (10SBisson) a:03Mattflaschen-WMF [11:41:38] 10Notifications, 10Thanks: Blocked users cannot send "thank you" notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139929#2446963 (10Matthiasb) [11:42:11] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10Dumps-Generation, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, and 3 others: Add Flow to database dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89398#2446976 (10ArielGlenn) May I close this task then as done, and the followup work can go on the two tasks you linked above? [11:58:44] 10Thanks: Blocked users cannot send "thank you" notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139929#2447008 (10Legoktm) [11:59:16] 10Thanks: Blocked users cannot send "thank you" notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139929#2446963 (10Legoktm) 05Open>03declined This is intentional, it's one of the (many) things blocked users are not allowed to do, to prevent abuse. [12:00:21] 10Flow: Flow non-JavaScript issues - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T85967#2447015 (10Danny_B) [12:00:54] (03CR) 10Addshore: Echo notifications for simple mention failures (031 comment) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/295351 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136326) (owner: 10WMDE-Fisch) [12:17:41] (03PS18) 10WMDE-Fisch: Echo notifications for simple mention failures [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/295351 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136326) [12:18:15] (03CR) 10WMDE-Fisch: Echo notifications for simple mention failures (031 comment) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/295351 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136326) (owner: 10WMDE-Fisch) [13:17:34] (03CR) 10Sbisson: [wip] Add a mark-all-read button and a settings menu to Special:Notifications (032 comments) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/296674 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115528) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [13:39:00] (03CR) 10Sbisson: "I have tested some more and:" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/296674 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115528) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [13:54:59] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4: Notification page side panel: sorting order of pages is incorrect - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139642#2447228 (10Pginer-WMF) > @Pginer-WMF, does that sound right? Yes. Regarding the talk pages, the main goal was to surface your own one since... [15:07:21] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4: Notification page side panel: sorting order of pages is incorrect - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139642#2447576 (10jmatazzoni) > Regarding the talk pages, the main goal was to surface your own one Yes, that's what I meant. Thanks. [15:16:41] (03CR) 10Sbisson: [C: 032] Make sure sidebar titles are under one another in Special:Notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/298107 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139807) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [15:23:15] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Make sure sidebar titles are under one another in Special:Notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/298107 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139807) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [16:45:10] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: Adjust the styling of excerpts inside bundled notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139960#2448070 (10Pginer-WMF) [16:57:16] (03PS6) 10Sbisson: Cleanup old notification formatting system [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/296641 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121612) [17:31:26] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow: "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'model' of undefined" on clicking 'Edit description' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139972#2448561 (10Etonkovidova) [17:49:31] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications: Adjust the styling of excerpts inside bundled notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139960#2448627 (10jmatazzoni) [18:48:48] 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review, 07User-notice, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Opt-in for Flow on your own user talk page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98270#2449184 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [18:48:50] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10Dumps-Generation, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, and 3 others: Add Flow to database dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89398#2449182 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved Yep, thanks again. [18:57:05] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications: Add 'seenTime' values for alert/message in the API when fetching list of notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139993#2449229 (10Mooeypoo) [18:57:13] matt_flaschen, ^^ added the ticket [18:59:21] Thanks, mooeypoo. [18:59:51] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications: Add 'seenTime' values for alert/message in the API when fetching list of notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139993#2449249 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) a:03Mattflaschen-WMF [19:00:24] matt_flaschen, sure, just making sure you've seen[time] it. [19:00:28] So it doesn't go unseen [19:01:09] and gets read [19:01:13] .... I'll stop while I'm ahead [19:01:17] [19:03:09] mooeypoo, sorry it took so long for me to check out your task. First, I had to see all other tasks filed in the meantime. [19:03:28] Unrelatedly... [19:03:30] Darn it. [19:04:10] They restarted terbium Friday for a security update. There was a warning of this on Wednesday, but I didn't see it. [19:04:18] So my screen sessions died, and I have to resume backfillUnreadWikis. [19:05:55] quiddity, so let's talk patrolling. [19:06:08] ya [19:06:37] We should distinguish between rights and groups to speak more precisely. [19:07:29] So IIUC, the ability to use NPP is currently based on the user-right "patrol". That right is currently given to the user-group autoconfirmed, per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ListGroupRights [19:08:38] quiddity, yes, that's correct. Since it provides another interface for patrolling, and core use the 'patrol' right for that. [19:10:19] A few Enwiki editors would like to start a discussion about raising the requirements for using NPP, to cut down on the amount of poor-patrolling currently done. I'm suggesting that they should consider re-using the "review" user-right, which is currently given to the "Pending changes reviewers" user-group (of which there are 7,000+). [19:11:01] quiddity, I disagree with that approach for a couple reasons: [19:11:49] 1. The 'patrol' right is defined by core, and in addition to the fancy stuff (adding templates and what not), PageCuration does ultimately do the actual 'patrol' action. To do that patrol action, you need the 'patrol' right. [19:12:59] 2. 'review' is not just used by PendingChanges/FlaggedRevisions, but actually defined by that extension. I don't think we should use one right for both, and I'm not even sure about using one group for both (do we trust the same users to publish unpublished text (PendingChanges) and to just review already-published text (patrol)?) [19:14:48] quiddity, Pending changes reviewers already has the 'patrol' right, so if you take 'patrol' away from Autoconfirmed, the real question is, is "Pending changes reviewers" too narrow a group of people. [19:14:52] And if so, how to resolve that: [19:15:00] 1. Create a separate Patrollers group with only 'patrol'. [19:15:30] 2. Add more peopel to the Pending Changes Reviewers group (bearing in mind they can also publish unpublished pending changes). [19:15:31] 3. Other. [19:16:34] matt_flaschen, nod. I'll add that to the thread where we've just started disussing it, at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Topic:T7bfjv9rhjybw333 [19:20:37] quiddity, thanks, I've watched it. I have a backlog, though, so if it particularly needs a response from me, ping me on IRC or hangouts, and I'll go back to it promptly. [19:20:47] nod, ty :) [19:51:00] stephanebisson, group 1 and group 2 wikis are resuming. I didn't redo any wikis that were entirely done, but there is no within-wiki resume support, so I have to restart metawiki (which I know is going to take a long time) and eswiki (probably similar though not quite as bad), since it was in the middle of those. [19:51:26] matt_flaschen: thanks [19:51:58] No problem. This is for backfillUnreadWikis. backfillReadBundles is done everywhere. [20:07:26] (03CR) 10Sbisson: "The old formatting system is in a non-working state." [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/296641 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121612) (owner: 10Sbisson) [20:08:50] stephanebisson: re your comment on "wikitext pages: Mention notifications prepend section title to text excerpts" (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134922) [20:09:01] etonkovidova: yes [20:09:22] stephanebisson: in fact, the section title is still prepending the text excerpt - for new Mentions also [20:10:02] stephanebisson: and should be there another ticket to get wiki Mention in synch with specs onthe spreadsheet? [20:11:25] stephanebisson: of course, it's not an urgent issue :) I can ask @jmatazzoni___ for feedback... [20:11:36] etonkovidova: there was a ticket (T134922) to add the excerpt, it was accepted by you and Joe [20:11:36] T134922: wikitext pages: Mention notifications prepend section title to text excerpts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134922 [20:11:49] I don't really care for the spreadsheet [20:12:05] stephanebisson: me neither [20:12:29] stephanebisson: argh ... I just saw https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121817 [20:12:38] stephanebisson: sorry [20:12:59] I'll see what I can do for the section title [20:13:13] stephanebisson: ok - thanks [20:13:24] etonkovidova: we all agree that it should NOT be at the beginning of the excerpt, right? [20:14:06] stephanebisson: yes - the bug was basically about it [20:14:20] ok, let me test [20:15:48] etonkovidova: I just tested and the section title was not in the excerpt [20:16:17] etonkovidova: but that only works for NEW notifications. The old ones still have the same excerpt that was captured at the time of the event. [20:16:41] stephanebisson: hmm... I tested it too - and for NEW notifications [20:16:45] etonkovidova: if you have a new one that has it, I would need to look at the edit [20:16:51] stephanebisson: how you create a new section? [20:17:16] == section title ==\n\n section content [20:17:31] stephanebisson: yup Interesting... [20:17:41] or with the button "Add topic" [20:18:03] stephanebisson: yup - checked it too hmm... And i]you did it in betalabs? [20:18:21] etonkovidova: no, locally. I'll try betalabs [20:18:29] stephanebisson: ok [20:20:31] (03CR) 10Reedy: [C: 04-1] "Needs rebasing" [extensions/PageTriage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230016 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T87954) (owner: 10Jforrester) [20:20:33] etonkovidova: could you mention me in betalabs? I'm User:Sbisson-beta [20:20:51] stephanebisson: will do [20:22:35] stephanebisson: done - on wikitext page and on the flow board [20:23:38] etonkovidova: I did not received the wikitext mention [20:23:59] stephanebisson: doing it again [20:24:51] don't forget to sign it [20:25:00] stephanebisson: got it? [20:26:00] etonkovidova: yes! and it's ok, it doesn't repeat the section title [20:26:24] stephanebisson: really? Let me try again for my user [20:26:50] stephanebisson: so do not see the word Heading in front of the text excerpt? [20:27:59] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-07-05_(1.28.0-wmf.9): wikitext pages: Mention notifications prepend section title to text excerpts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134922#2449906 (10SBisson) {F4263315} Mention received. [20:28:00] stephanebisson: it's a miracle I do not see the section titles anymore! [20:28:07] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134922#2449906 [20:28:29] etonkovidova: yes, it's a miracle, that's what I do. [20:29:10] stephanebisson: I have some suspicions of such miracles - but it's unrelated to the bug we were talking about :)) [20:29:38] stephanebisson: I will try couple of things but the bug is ersolved. [20:36:30] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Flow, 07Regression: Flow as a Beta feature: enable, disable and reenable doesn't seem to work - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T138310#2449978 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [20:38:43] stephanebisson: ok, the confusion solved: from the point of editing the presence/absence of white space(s) after double-equal sign is not important ==[white space]section title[white space]== [20:39:26] stephanebisson: but for sending correctly formatted notifications - the white space(one) should be present == section title == [20:39:36] oh [20:39:55] stephanebisson: not important :) at least not now [20:40:32] so the EchoDiscussionParser has different rules about what makes a section title [20:40:47] stephanebisson: more strict rules [20:41:03] const HEADER_REGEX = '^(==+)\s*([^=].*)\s*\1$'; [20:41:09] I can't tell if this is ok or not [20:41:52] stephanebisson: 'Contents' gets displayed for any section titles: == section title == , ==section title== etc [20:42:15] stephanebisson: I still think it's fine...ish [20:52:47] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-07-05_(1.28.0-wmf.9): wikitext pages: Mention notifications prepend section title to text excerpts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134922#2449997 (10Etonkovidova) Thx, @SBisson - Re-checked in betalbs. All works acco... [21:01:22] matt_flaschen: are you joining bug triage? [21:03:51] etonkovidova, yes, sorry. [21:05:29] matt_flaschen: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139993 [21:22:29] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 07Browser-Support-Apple-Safari: [iOS] Notifications 'Mark as read/unread' not displayed properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130244#2450200 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [21:22:31] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications: [iOS] The dotdotdot menu does not work properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132393#2450201 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [22:04:43] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 10ArchCom-RfC, 10MediaWiki-Watchlist, 07RfC: RfC: Need to merge Notifications and Watchlist or lack thereof - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128352#2450369 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) >>! In T128352#2420291, @RobLa-WMF wrote: > There's certainly a fear of go... [22:06:05] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-07-12_(1.28.0-wmf.10): "Special:Notifications" has a display problem in some languages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139807#2443252 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in betalabs - 'Recent activity' - zhwiki a... [22:12:20] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-07-12_(1.28.0-wmf.10): "Special:Notifications" has a display problem in some languages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139807#2450389 (10Guycn2) >>! In T139807#2450371, @Etonkovidova wrote: > Checked in b... [22:18:34] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4: Special:Notifications: the filtered 'Unread' page needs to be refreshed after messages were marked as read - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T136891#2450426 (10Etonkovidova) @Mooeypoo according to the specs in {T132738: Mark groups of notifications... [22:19:24] 10Flow, 07Regression: Unstyled mw-plusminus text on Flow history pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139503#2450433 (10Krinkle) [22:20:32] (03PS2) 10Mooeypoo: [wip^2] Add a SeenTimeModel to handle seenTime in sources [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/298105 [22:22:25] (03CR) 10Mooeypoo: "I can change the push/pending state, but I don't know if there's a reason to prevent (or make it difficult) for the user to click the othe" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/296674 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115528) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [22:24:39] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip^2] Add a SeenTimeModel to handle seenTime in sources [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/298105 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [22:33:27] 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Writing any posts through the mobile Flow interface is completely impossible - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110485#2450482 (10Danny_B) [23:07:14] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications: Special:Notifications not showing all my notifications in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139696#2450670 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) With no-JS, there are 482 (determined by checking the number of .mw-echo-notification), going back to 3 May 2013. (Also... [23:07:36] 03Collab-Team-Q1-July-Sep-2016, 10Notifications: Special:Notifications not showing all my notifications in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139696#2450671 (10Mattflaschen-WMF) [23:19:06] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-Redirects, 06Operations, and 2 others: Flow notification links on mobile point to desktop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107108#2450759 (10Etonkovidova) Testing **betalabs** for the scenarios described in the ticket: |** Notification** |**Mobile pa... [23:22:32] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-Redirects, 06Operations, and 2 others: Flow notification links on mobile point to desktop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107108#2450763 (10Jdlrobson) @Etonkovidova in case it's useful information it's worth noting that you should run these tests on... [23:25:03] (03PS1) 10MaxSem: Fix E_NOTICE due to event_deleted missing on foreign psuedo-notification [extensions/Echo] (wmf/1.28.0-wmf.9) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/298400 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139536) [23:25:59] (03CR) 10MaxSem: [C: 032] Fix E_NOTICE due to event_deleted missing on foreign psuedo-notification [extensions/Echo] (wmf/1.28.0-wmf.9) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/298400 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139536) (owner: 10MaxSem) [23:27:05] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-Redirects, 06Operations, and 2 others: Flow notification links on mobile point to desktop - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107108#2450778 (10Etonkovidova) thx @Jdlrobson - it's certainly requires more exhaustive testing. The table in my comment is from... [23:29:00] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 06Editing-Department, 10MobileFrontend: Edit pencil icon displayed as protected unnecessarily when viewing Flow page in MobileFrontend - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130322#2450783 (10Jdforrester-WMF) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Jdforrester-WMF This appears to n... [23:34:21] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix E_NOTICE due to event_deleted missing on foreign psuedo-notification [extensions/Echo] (wmf/1.28.0-wmf.9) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/298400 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T139536) (owner: 10MaxSem) [23:35:37] 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration: Unable to mark certain articles as patrolled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52023#2450802 (10Danny_B) [23:35:39] 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration: "Old" is broken: Error: mw.Title: Could not parse title ".digamma" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T54683#2450801 (10Danny_B) [23:35:42] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration: PageCuration: curation toolbar appearing at the bottom of the screen with additional "position: relative;" in element's CSS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51027#2450803 (10Danny_B) [23:35:45] 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 07Tracking: Page Curation Tracking Bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55504#2450800 (10Danny_B) [23:35:50] 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 07Tracking: Page Curation Tracking Bug - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55504#569799 (10Danny_B) [23:37:31] 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 07Tracking: [DO NOT USE] Page Curation (tracking) [superseded by #MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration] - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T55504#569799 (10Danny_B) 05declined>03Invalid p:05High>03Lowest [23:57:02] (03CR) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Add a mark-all-read button and a settings menu to Special:Notifications (032 comments) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/296674 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115528) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)