[00:03:04] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications: Notification panel: Clearer use of notification badges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115845#2287801 (10jmatazzoni) [00:03:06] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 13Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: Revise Sorting of Notifications on the Fly-Out Menus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123018#2287800 (10jmatazzoni) [00:05:28] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 13Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: Revise Sorting of Notifications on the Fly-Out Menus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123018#2287803 (10jmatazzoni) User feedback and results from the [[ https://meta.wikimedia.org/wi... [00:05:52] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 13Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: Revise Sorting of Notifications on the Fly-Out Menus - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123018#2287806 (10jmatazzoni) a:05jmatazzoni>03None [00:10:59] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Notify users who are editing protected flow content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108762#2287826 (10Etonkovidova) 1) There are two cases when Reason field if left blank will be displ... [00:34:46] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 06Editing-Department, 10MobileFrontend, and 2 others: [mobile] JSON displayed when editing Flow page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134206#2287852 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in betalabs and media.m.mediawiki.org - the link for editing flow content is removed; ot... [00:42:04] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications: Notification panel: Clearer use of notification badges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115845#2287855 (10jmatazzoni) I talked this over with Volker and am convinced there's no magic idea out there waiting for us to hit on. The in-box works well enough for me... [00:56:36] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): On protected Flow pages, remove/replace action links, and/or inform users without sufficient rights to use them - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127774#2053561 (10Etonkovidova... [01:08:14] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Editing-Analysis: Identify top users of Huggle - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134540#2287884 (10Krenair) Using analytics databases is not what I'd call direct but they're probably more accurate than the public labs replicas. I don't think query difficulty/intensity should... [01:21:51] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Editing-Analysis: Identify top users of Huggle - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134540#2287928 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF) Yeah, I didn't say it was a //good// guess :) I filed the weird results as T135087. [02:50:27] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016: Problems encountered when enabling Flow on Chinese Wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118567#2288092 (10Shizhao) [03:43:49] (03PS1) 10Catrope: Rename MentionPresentationModel::getType() to avoid conflict with I4eceaf521315 [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.23) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288340 [03:44:41] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Rename MentionPresentationModel::getType() to avoid conflict with I4eceaf521315 [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.23) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288340 (owner: 10Catrope) [03:52:01] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Rename MentionPresentationModel::getType() to avoid conflict with I4eceaf521315 [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.23) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288340 (owner: 10Catrope) [08:55:06] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications: Provide items inside a bundle with a more concise text copy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127813#2288425 (10Pginer-WMF) [08:55:27] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications: Provide items inside a bundle with a more concise text copy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127813#2054765 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T127813#2287531, @jmatazzoni wrote: > Here's my proposal for which types will benefit most from being expandable. Looks good to... [09:32:07] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Documentation: Create or gather interactive animations to illustrate how to use Flow features - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130913#2288471 (10Trizek-WMF) [11:48:05] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications: Notification panel: Clearer use of notification badges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115845#2288807 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T115845#2287855, @jmatazzoni wrote: > I talked this over with Volker and am convinced there's no magic idea out there waiting for us t... [12:57:50] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Regression: [Regression] No notifications received when you are mentionned on Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135123#2288916 (10Trizek-WMF) [13:04:49] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Regression: [Regression] No notifications received when you are mentionned on Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135123#2288916 (10SBisson) The screenshot shows `Alerts` but Flow mention... [13:08:11] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: "Mute" button on Echo items that you don't want to hear about anymore (was: Allow excluding pages from the link notifications) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46787#2288976 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T46787#2231560, @Quiddity wrote: > I vaguely recall discussin... [13:09:56] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow: Copy/pasting links on Flow has multiple unexpected behaviors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135126#2288980 (10Trizek-WMF) [13:10:39] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow: Copy/pasting links on Flow has multiple unexpected behaviors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135126#2288993 (10Trizek-WMF) p:05Triage>03High Triaged as High: it is a very basic functionality with a big impact. [13:24:44] 10Notifications: Send notifications data before an explicit request to make them available offline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135130#2289059 (10Dereckson) [13:28:12] (03CR) 10Sbisson: HTML email formatter using presentation model (038 comments) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/287078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121067) (owner: 10Sbisson) [13:30:23] (03PS5) 10Sbisson: HTML email formatter using presentation model [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/287078 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T121067) [13:53:08] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 07User-notice: Provide items inside a bundle with a more concise text copy - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127813#2289140 (10Trizek-WMF) [13:58:21] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Regression: [Regression] No notifications received when you are mentionned on Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135123#2289153 (10Trizek-WMF) p:05High>03Normal ...shame on me. Two... [13:58:40] ^ I'm tired today... [14:24:37] 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Give a way for users to opt-out Cross-wiki Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129077#2289210 (10Trizek-WMF) I would have think it about that before: is it possible to release that opt-out option before the release? We may have p... [14:51:04] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Regression: [Regression] No notifications received when you are mentionned on Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135123#2289282 (10SBisson) I think it illustrates that those 2 buckets ar... [14:59:52] 10Flow, 10Notifications: Email notification about "someone edited the description on Flow board" should point to the diff, not the page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135136#2289307 (10Trizek-WMF) [15:14:13] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement: No notifications received when you are mentionned on Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135123#2289345 (10Trizek-WMF) [15:30:30] 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Give a way for users to opt-out Cross-wiki Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129077#2289406 (10jmatazzoni) @Trizek-WMF, I see this task is shown as Resolved. And it is listed as a blocker for Enable X-wiki by default. So I it l... [15:34:44] 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Give a way for users to opt-out Cross-wiki Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129077#2289416 (10Trizek-WMF) That's my question actually. Imagine a user who hates the idea of receiving Notifications from other wikis. We have an... [16:09:38] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Notify users who are editing protected flow content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108762#2289561 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T108762#2287337, @Etonkovidova wrote: > - when the board desc... [16:18:34] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Notify users who are editing protected flow content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108762#2289586 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T108762#2289561, @Mattflaschen wrote: >>>! In T108762#2287337... [16:19:47] 10Flow: Confusing "reply" under last post in a topic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135142#2289588 (10jeblad) [16:39:43] 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Give a way for users to opt-out Cross-wiki Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129077#2289689 (10Catrope) Unfortunately with the way the preferences system works in MediaWiki, providing an opt-out ahead of time when changing a pr... [16:45:53] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Notify users who are editing protected flow content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108762#2289735 (10Etonkovidova) @Mattflaschen "You currently are not able to participate. You can t... [16:46:26] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 13Patch-For-Review: Set up Flow-specific External Store cluster on Beta (secondary to the main one) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128417#2289738 (10Mattflaschen) There was a minor problem with that patch, so I had to do {1317ae266... [17:11:31] (03PS1) 10MarkAHershberger: Add tmp emacs file to gitignore [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288433 [17:17:18] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Design-Research, and 2 others: Use of Notifications survey - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127257#2289893 (10jmatazzoni) [17:19:13] 10Notifications: Echo prefs don't recognise editmyprivateinfo restrictions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135152#2289899 (10Aklapper) [17:19:43] (03PS1) 10MarkAHershberger: Respect editmyprivateinfo for email [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288434 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135152) [17:23:49] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Respect editmyprivateinfo for email [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288434 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135152) (owner: 10MarkAHershberger) [17:36:48] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4: Timestamps in mobile flyout can differ from desktop Special:Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131733#2176438 (10Etonkovidova) Confirmed in betalabs - not specific to mobile, but specific to discrepancy of the timestamps on Notificatio... [17:40:34] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: Styling adjustments for the Notification Panel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119374#2290036 (10jmatazzoni) [17:40:36] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-10_(1.28.0-wmf.1): [minor] mouse-hover over 'Mark as read/unread' displays grey background only partially - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130677#2290034 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved a:03jmatazzoni [17:42:01] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Deleted wikitext Talk page cannot be restored after EnableFlow creates the same page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104591#2290055 (10jmatazzoni) Reposting this request for comment: @matthiasmullie @Mattflaschen... [17:42:34] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Performance, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-10_(1.28.0-wmf.1): Cache foreign notification count in memcached - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133623#2290059 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [17:42:37] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Epic, and 3 others: Enable cross-wiki notifications by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130655#2290060 (10jmatazzoni) [17:43:03] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 06Editing-Department, 10MobileFrontend, and 2 others: [mobile] JSON displayed when editing Flow page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134206#2290061 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [17:43:17] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Run Flow External Store migration in dry-run mode on Beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119567#2290062 (10Mattflaschen) @jcrespo said he would like to: 1. Take a backup. 2. Add more (non-Flow) pages to Beta Cluster (these will go... [17:46:47] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-03_(1.27.0-wmf.23): Add topic button disabled - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134060#2290069 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [17:47:21] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 07I18n, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-10_(1.28.0-wmf.1): [[MediaWiki:Notification-header-flow-topic-renamed-user-talk/nb]] i18n issue - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132252#2290071 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [17:47:47] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Regression, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-10_(1.28.0-wmf.1): [betalabs] Regression: asynchronous update for cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134533#2290075 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [17:47:49] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Performance, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-10_(1.28.0-wmf.1): Cache foreign notification count in memcached - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133623#2290076 (10jmatazzoni) [17:55:15] 10Notifications, 07Beta-Feature: Enable Enhanced notifications by default on Meta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135160#2290124 (10Archi38) [18:19:15] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Add tmp emacs file to gitignore [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288433 (owner: 10MarkAHershberger) [18:21:25] (03PS2) 10Catrope: Respect editmyprivateinfo for email [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288434 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135152) (owner: 10MarkAHershberger) [18:25:48] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Run Flow External Store migration in dry-run mode on Beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119567#2290252 (10greg) I'm working half-time right now (parental leave), so IRC is really laggy on my end :) What should I know about the scri... [18:26:19] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add tmp emacs file to gitignore [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288433 (owner: 10MarkAHershberger) [18:30:15] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 13Patch-For-Review, 07User-notice, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Add "mark as read" buttons for each day on the no-JS Special:Notifications page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134204#2257927 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in betalabs -... [18:33:55] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement: No notifications received when you are mentionned on Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135123#2288916 (10Catrope) Another good argument for {T123018} :) and we've already decided that we'll... [18:35:01] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: Send notifications data before an explicit request to make them available offline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135130#2290268 (10Catrope) [18:35:57] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement: No notifications received when you are mentionned on Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135123#2290270 (10Trizek-WMF) 05Open>03Invalid Yep. The sonner, the better. [18:39:38] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 13Patch-For-Review, 07User-notice, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Add "mark as read" buttons for each day on the no-JS Special:Notifications page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134204#2290278 (10jmatazzoni) I have a question about... [18:51:22] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Epic, and 3 others: Enable cross-wiki notifications by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130655#2290318 (10Trizek-WMF) Messages distributed on main Wikipedias VP's, wikidata, commons, wikivoyage, wikispecies. [18:57:12] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 13Patch-For-Review, 07User-notice, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Add "mark as read" buttons for each day on the no-JS Special:Notifications page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134204#2290330 (10Etonkovidova) To add to the previou... [18:59:53] 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Give a way for users to opt-out Cross-wiki Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129077#2290334 (10Trizek-WMF) That's really unfortunate. :/ [19:05:05] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Respect editmyprivateinfo for email [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288434 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135152) (owner: 10MarkAHershberger) [19:19:53] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun-2016), 07User-notice: Prepare and review announcements concerning Cross-wiki Notifications as a by-default feature on all wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129643#2111549 (10jmatazz... [19:20:11] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: Send notifications data before an explicit request to make them available offline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135130#2289059 (10Mattflaschen) This would require preloading the popup content on every view. [19:20:49] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Respect editmyprivateinfo for email [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288434 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135152) (owner: 10MarkAHershberger) [19:25:15] 10Flow: Confusing "reply" under last post in a topic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135142#2289588 (10Mattflaschen) This is by design, but you are not the only person who would prefer other behavior. [19:25:24] 10Flow: Confusing "reply" under last post in a topic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135142#2290393 (10Mattflaschen) [19:25:27] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow: Allow indenting comment while replying the last comment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95084#2290395 (10Mattflaschen) [19:26:45] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston (Burnup-Support), 15User-JAufrecht: Collab recently closed Phlogiston report has 1000s of invalid items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133172#2290399 (10jmatazzoni) Thanks for the explanation. Can we close this now? [19:29:27] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: Send notifications data before an explicit request to make them available offline - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135130#2289059 (10SBisson) >>! In T135130#2290373, @Mattflaschen wrote: > This would require preloading the popup content on every view. Yeah... [19:34:48] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston (Burnup-Support), 15User-JAufrecht: Collab recently closed Phlogiston report has 1000s of invalid items - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133172#2290408 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03declined Closing; no change needed. [19:34:58] 10Flow: More accurate UI text when you start doing a disallowed undeletion (over a Flow board) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135166#2290417 (10Mattflaschen) [19:35:02] 10Flow: More accurate UI text when you start doing a disallowed undeletion (over a Flow board) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135166#2290432 (10Mattflaschen) [19:35:31] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Deleted wikitext Talk page cannot be restored after EnableFlow creates the same page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104591#1421736 (10Mattflaschen) Most of the things she mentioned are areas for possible improveme... [19:35:39] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 06Team-Practices, 10Phlogiston (Burnup-Support), 15User-JAufrecht: Collab Phlogiston velocity chart doesn't match recently closed list - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T133173#2290437 (10JAufrecht) 05Open>03Invalid Reviewed with @jmatazzoni; closing. Charts don't matc... [19:38:17] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Run Flow External Store migration in dry-run mode on Beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119567#2290447 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T119567#2290252, @greg wrote: > I'm working half-time right now (parental leave), so IRC is really laggy... [19:40:12] 10Notifications, 07Beta-Feature: Enable Enhanced notifications by default on Meta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135160#2290448 (10Archi38) 05Open>03Resolved Because they will be installed in all wiki today [19:40:14] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun-2016), 07User-notice: Prepare and review announcements concerning Cross-wiki Notifications as a by-default feature on all wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129643#2290450 (10Trizek-... [19:40:42] RoanKattouw, regarding the opt out preference, I understand that MW only stores preferences different from default (so right now it is only storing the opt-ins, and when it is on by default it will only store the opt-outs, and initially there will be no opt outs). [19:41:23] RoanKattouw, but couldn't we still roll out the preference before the feature into Special:Preferences. Not sure this is actually a good idea (it's actually somewhat confusing except for the tiny minority that read Tech News), but in theory I don't understand why that wouldn't work. [19:41:33] Yes, we could [19:41:51] 10Notifications, 07Beta-Feature: Enable Enhanced notifications by default on Meta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135160#2290489 (10Trizek-WMF) [19:41:53] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Epic, and 3 others: Enable cross-wiki notifications by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130655#2290491 (10Trizek-WMF) [19:42:00] But you'd have to add a second preference, and you'd then have to either keep it around forever or write a maintenance script to roll it back into the main preference [19:42:54] Yeah. Plus I'm not convinced it's good UX anyway. [19:43:03] VE did this kind of thing at one point. Alex wrote a patch for it that James and I then spent hours hashing out if it was correct or not and how it should work [19:43:43] (In the VE case they ensured that those not opted in before the switch would automatically be opted out at the time of the switch, which is different from our case, but it was already a pain) [19:51:57] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4: List wikis and pages with unread notifications in the Notification Page left nav - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129366#2290528 (10jmatazzoni) @Pginer-WMF , I have two comments/requests about this design: {F3579568} 1) I don't think the word "C... [19:54:20] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 06Community-Liaisons (Apr-Jun-2016), 07User-notice: Prepare and review announcements concerning Cross-wiki Notifications as a by-default feature on all wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129643#2290535 (10jmatazz... [20:06:30] etonkovidova, "You currently are not able to participate. You can try logging in" is not the only message that appears for logged out users. That is the catch-all message, but there is also a specific message for logged out users when only admins can edit, and another specific message when only autoconfirmed can edit. [20:08:24] matt_flaschen: ok then :) I was thinking that the wording should be improved - that's all. It's not a bug to have such a message :))) [20:09:07] etonkovidova, yeah, I am open to improvements. [20:09:59] 10Flow: Confusing "reply" under last post in a topic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135142#2290573 (10jeblad) Tell me who and I will smack them! ;) Actually, I thought I was the only one noticing this, but several have pointed this out to be the wrong behavior. [20:12:46] matt_flaschen: I usually delegate such stuff to others. My concerns about the phrasing are 1) does not inform me that the page is protected 2) does not give specifics that it's protected for specific user categories 3) and 'try to login' phrase does not make much sense since what I, as a user, can get gain after login? [20:15:58] Is anyone else having problems with VisualEditor on Flow locally? [20:16:12] It is working for me in debug mode, but not regular mode. [20:16:44] Never mind, it's working now. [20:16:52] I updated it before, but I think forgot to clear the cache. Maybe that was it. [20:20:15] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow: Allow indenting comment while replying the last comment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T95084#2290608 (10jeblad) The present model is simply wrong. There are two different types of targets in a discourse; the main topic and the topic as expressed by of a specific s... [20:21:57] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 13Patch-For-Review, 07User-notice, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Make "mark as read" an explicit action on current no-JS version of Special:Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115528#1726587 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in b... [20:24:35] (03PS26) 10Paladox: Make VisualEditor support truly optional [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/279957 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131055) [20:25:23] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant: Redis notices locally on MediaWiki-Vagrant - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135172#2290620 (10Mattflaschen) [20:33:32] RoanKattouw, I'm looking at how to get the mw.flow.ui.VisualEditorWidget from the mw.flow.ve.Target. [20:33:47] We already have a switchable property, but it isn't actually being used by VE. [20:37:01] I think I can just pass it to create. [20:39:41] I don't think you can currently [20:39:58] It used to be that the widget managed the target rather than the other way around [20:40:29] Also there's probably just one target per page but potentially multiple widgets/surfaces [20:40:41] RoanKattouw, ... are you IRCing from your bike?! [20:40:58] wait, your laptop is here... how .... ghost in the machine [20:41:02] Byron and I are walking back to the bikes with food [20:41:20] We're picnicking over by the bow and arrow thing on the Embarcadero [20:41:31] ... Your laptop is *HERE* [20:41:51] I don't think you're real. [20:41:51] And my phone is here ;) [20:42:46] RoanKattouw, it has: [20:42:47] widget.target = ve.init.mw.targetFactory.create( 'flow' ); [20:43:07] Ha so still one target per widget, OK [20:43:34] I think that's semi-naughty but I don't know if Ed ever put in a patch to fix it or if he decided it was OK [20:44:04] RoanKattouw, okay, I'll just inject the switchable boolean into the target. That way, if this is ever changed, we just need to change how that boolean is determined. [20:44:08] Instead of injecting the whole widget. [20:47:20] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Deleted wikitext Talk page cannot be restored after EnableFlow creates the same page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104591#2290665 (10jmatazzoni) Thanks Matt. Closing this now. [20:47:27] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Deleted wikitext Talk page cannot be restored after EnableFlow creates the same page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104591#2290666 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [20:49:35] Okay, disregard everything I said. It's a static property, so I have to static-ize everything. [21:06:29] (03PS27) 10Luke081515: Make VisualEditor support truly optional [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/279957 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131055) (owner: 10Paladox) [21:14:51] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 07Persona-Active-Editor: Adjust notification badge prominence for cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130363#2290808 (10jmatazzoni) In reading this over, I think this is something we can save for next quarter. It's possible, for exampl... [21:14:59] (03PS1) 10Mattflaschen: Hide editor switcher button on VE when switching is disabled [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288515 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108762) [21:15:12] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 07Persona-Active-Editor: Adjust notification badge prominence for cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130363#2290810 (10jmatazzoni) [21:15:43] etonkovidova, fixed the issue you noticed with the VE->wikitext switch button being visible on protected boards. [21:16:43] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 07Persona-Active-Editor: Adjust notification badge prominence for cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130363#2133785 (10jmatazzoni) [21:16:48] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 07Epic, 07User-notice, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Notifications Panel: Support cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114350#2290814 (10jmatazzoni) [21:16:49] matt_flaschen: thanks! I am thinking to move the ticket for Product Review - there are no bugs [21:17:04] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 07Persona-Active-Editor: Adjust notification badge prominence for cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130363#2133785 (10jmatazzoni) [21:17:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: Styling adjustments for the Notification Panel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119374#2290816 (10jmatazzoni) [21:18:47] etonkovidova, let's wait until that bug fix is merged. [21:18:56] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288515 [21:19:13] matt_flaschen: ah, yeh - that's what I meant :) [21:21:46] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Run Flow External Store migration in dry-run mode on Beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119567#2290847 (10greg) go ahead from me [21:38:04] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant: RedisBagOStuff does not handle negative integers correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135172#2290878 (10Mattflaschen) a:03Mattflaschen [21:38:19] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant: RedisBagOStuff does not handle negative integers correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135172#2290620 (10Mattflaschen) [21:39:10] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 13Patch-For-Review, 07User-notice, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Add "mark as read" buttons for each day on the no-JS Special:Notifications page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134204#2290884 (10jmatazzoni) @Mooeypoo, please see E... [21:51:20] matt_flaschen: I fixed that yesterday (using Brad's code), see engineering-l [21:51:51] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant: RedisBagOStuff does not handle negative integers correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135172#2290922 (10Catrope) [22:00:17] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4: Timestamps in flyout can differ from Special:Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131733#2290931 (10Quiddity) [22:00:23] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant: RedisBagOStuff does not handle negative integers correctly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135172#2290934 (10Catrope) [22:03:26] Eh, I was thinking whether I should check, but decided to Just Do It. [22:04:49] RoanKattouw, oh, well, at least I can still add my test. [22:04:52] matt_flaschen: need your help. I do not see in my vagrant the fix: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/282841/ Make FlowReplies slightly work [22:05:48] matt_flaschen: ~/Documents/gerrit/vagrant/mediawiki/extensions/Flow$ git pull gives me Already up-to-date. [22:07:14] Oh yeah a test would be good [22:07:14] (03PS28) 10Paladox: Make VisualEditor support truly optional [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/279957 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131055) [22:08:01] RoanKattouw, very convenient since I forgot to commit the fix anyway (since I stashed it to verify the test). Mine used filter_var( $data, FILTER_VALIDATE_INT ) but it's basically equivalent. [22:08:02] matt_flaschen: wow - it worked again - as soon as I asked you- all is working. Sorry :) [22:09:20] RoanKattouw, oh, this is the thing you mentioned in standup. [22:09:39] Yes :) [22:09:48] Sorry, if I had been able to attend in person it might have been clearer [22:10:05] Yeah I was going to use is_numeric() but then I saw Brad's suggestion and went with that instead [22:10:40] (string)intval($x) === $x is clearer than "wth does is_numeric() do again, let me look that up on php.net" [22:10:54] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-05-17_(1.28.0-wmf.2): Cancel button for moderation broken, only locally - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132414#2197691 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in vagrant - Cancel action for moderation actions (delete, hide, supress) works.... [22:12:07] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ExtensionDistributor: flow_post.partial.handlebars appears after posting a message - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702#1396907 (10Paladox) Please note symbolic links do not work on windows. Which means kinda of flow doesn't support windo... [22:12:17] RoanKattouw, yeah, is_numeric is not quite right since it will accept '2.0'. Which *shouldn't* be in Redis. Shouldn't :). [22:12:29] Oh, right [22:12:30] I actually worked on this code with Krinkle a while back. [22:14:07] I saw in the docs that it accepted 2.3e+4 and slowly backed away [22:14:40] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: "Mute" button on Echo items that you don't want to hear about anymore (was: Allow excluding pages from the link notifications) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46787#2290999 (10Quiddity) >>! In T46787#2283682, @Mattflaschen wrote: >>>! In T46787#2231560, @Q... [22:15:23] (03PS1) 10Paladox: Use flow_post.partial.handlebars file instead of flow_post.handlebars [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288526 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702) [22:17:24] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: Allow the user to mark individual remote wikis as read inside a cross-wiki bundle - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135182#2291009 (10Mooeypoo) [22:17:41] jmatazzoni___, https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135182 [22:21:38] 10Notifications: Design research: How will expandable bundles behave inside cross-wiki bundles? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135183#2291031 (10jmatazzoni) [22:24:52] matt_flaschen: I see in betalabs now :( [FLOW] Error in component handler: interactiveHandler Error: Unknown dependency: schema.Undefined [22:25:20] matt_flaschen: functionality is fine [22:25:58] etonkovidova, please file a bug, and specify when it happens. [22:26:01] Thanks for finding that. [22:26:23] matt_flaschen: ok [22:29:06] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications: "Mute" button on Echo items that you don't want to hear about anymore (was: Allow excluding pages from the link notifications) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46787#2291057 (10Quiddity) Oh, and a simple "plaintext list in a user-subpage" implementation of... [22:32:25] 10Notifications: Design research: How will expandable bundles behave inside cross-wiki bundles? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135183#2291066 (10jmatazzoni) Pau, you may already have an answer in mind for this. If the answer is that bundles inside x-wiki bundles should continue to behave as they do now (no... [22:32:49] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications: Design research: How will expandable bundles behave inside cross-wiki bundles? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135183#2291072 (10jmatazzoni) [22:33:57] (03Abandoned) 10Mattflaschen: Use flow_post.partial.handlebars file instead of flow_post.handlebars [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288526 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702) (owner: 10Paladox) [22:41:45] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow: [betalabs] Flow: click 'Cancel' for moderation actions - "Error in component handler..." is displayed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135185#2291129 (10Etonkovidova) [22:50:16] (03PS1) 10Mattflaschen: Add CONTRIBUTING doc to help new contributors [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288532 [22:50:36] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow: Copy/pasting links on Flow has multiple unexpected behaviors - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135126#2288980 (10Catrope) It looks like the blank space issue may be the following round-trip issue: - User pastes link to `https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foo` - Parsoid ht... [23:05:00] (03PS1) 10Catrope: Correctly update locally cached seenTime [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288537 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134854) [23:05:16] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review: Cross-wiki notifications get highlighted even when they have been already seen - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T134854#2291296 (10Catrope) a:03Catrope [23:17:37] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Epic, and 3 others: Enable cross-wiki notifications by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130655#2291340 (10Catrope) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Catrope Deployed by @Dereckson (thanks!) at 23:06 UTC. [23:17:40] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 07Epic, 07User-notice, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Notifications Panel: Support cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114350#2291344 (10Catrope) [23:17:58] (03Restored) 10Paladox: Use flow_post.partial.handlebars file instead of flow_post.handlebars [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288526 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702) (owner: 10Paladox) [23:18:08] (03PS2) 10Paladox: Use flow_post.partial.handlebars file instead of flow_post.handlebars [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288526 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702) [23:19:56] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 07Epic, 07Tracking: Better organization for the Notification panel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113228#2291353 (10Catrope) [23:19:59] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 07Crosswiki, 07Epic, 10MediaWiki-Email: Please add cross-wiki talk page notification. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3066#2291354 (10Catrope) [23:20:03] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 07Epic, 07User-notice, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Notifications Panel: Support cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114350#2291351 (10Catrope) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Catrope [23:20:11] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4: [betalabs] Notifications page - the cog and 'more info' icons disappeared - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T135192#2291355 (10Etonkovidova) [23:20:53] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Notifications, 07Crosswiki, 07Epic, 10MediaWiki-Email: Please add cross-wiki talk page notification. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3066#51280 (10Catrope) 05Open>03Resolved a:03Catrope With today's deployment of cross-wiki notifications (now enabled by defau... [23:21:08] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use flow_post.partial.handlebars file instead of flow_post.handlebars [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288526 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702) (owner: 10Paladox) [23:23:23] (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: [C: 04-2] "I don't see how running make compile-lightncandy could result in this." [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288526 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702) (owner: 10Paladox) [23:27:44] (03PS3) 10Paladox: Use flow_post.partial.handlebars file instead of flow_post.handlebars [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288526 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702) [23:28:03] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GlobalBlocking, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Add role for GlobalBlocking - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T69104#2291392 (10Mattflaschen) I think that's since been fixed (to correctly treat it as HTML). [23:30:37] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use flow_post.partial.handlebars file instead of flow_post.handlebars [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288526 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702) (owner: 10Paladox) [23:38:11] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ExtensionDistributor, 13Patch-For-Review: flow_post.partial.handlebars appears after posting a message - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702#2291396 (10Mattflaschen) a:03Mattflaschen [23:38:33] (03Abandoned) 10Mattflaschen: Use flow_post.partial.handlebars file instead of flow_post.handlebars [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/288526 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702) (owner: 10Paladox) [23:40:47] 06Collaboration-Team-Interested, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ExtensionDistributor, 13Patch-For-Review: flow_post.partial.handlebars appears after posting a message - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702#1396907 (10Mattflaschen) Something @Paladox said gave me the idea to use a partial for this, as... [23:41:05] 03Collab-Team-2016-Apr-Jun-Q4, 10Flow: flow_post.partial.handlebars appears after posting a message - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103702#2291415 (10Mattflaschen)