[00:04:17] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Enable GuidedTour extension on sq.wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132412#2197675 (10Krenair) Did your community discuss it? [00:06:29] 10Flow: Cancel button for moderation broken - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132414#2197691 (10Mattflaschen) [00:06:59] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow: Cancel button for moderation broken - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132414#2197703 (10Mattflaschen) [00:13:30] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow: Cancel button for moderation broken, only locally - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132414#2197716 (10Mattflaschen) a:03Mattflaschen [00:19:08] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Enable GuidedTour extension on sq.wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132412#2197737 (10Olsi) No. I thought that normal users wouldn't be interested on discussing about that, but I'm going to open a discussion on Village Pump. [00:48:23] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow: Cancel button for moderation broken, only locally - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132414#2197769 (10Mattflaschen) [00:48:25] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: [FlowReplies] Missing or empty schema - on beta cluster and locally - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104215#2197770 (10Mattflaschen) [00:48:27] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: FlowReplies is not firing in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96620#2197771 (10Mattflaschen) [00:48:51] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: [FlowReplies] Missing or empty schema - on beta cluster and locally - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104215#1410228 (10Mattflaschen) The reason it was only broken completely locally is that there were *other* schemas in production, so it correctly bailed there. [01:06:17] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests: Enable GuidedTour extension on sq.wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132412#2197508 (10Dereckson) Yeah, a discussion is better to get input. Especially as you've also work to do on wiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:GuidedTour/Wr... [01:19:25] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow: Cancel button for moderation broken, only locally - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132414#2197826 (10Mattflaschen) 05duplicate>03Open [01:19:37] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: FlowReplies is not firing in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96620#2197827 (10Mattflaschen) [01:24:58] (03PS1) 10Mattflaschen: WIP: Make FlowReplies slightly work [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282841 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96620) [01:26:42] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review: FlowReplies is not firing in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96620#2197840 (10Mattflaschen) @jmatazzoni @Catrope @Pginer-WMF @Neil_P._Quinn_WMF Is this data still being used, or planned to be used? I think we... [01:34:02] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 07Regression: topic-title-wikitext conversion error when non-privileged user edits deleted topic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119157#2197850 (10Mattflaschen) Reply is fixed: I get "You cannot reply because this topic has been deleted." For edit-topic-title or edit-post... [01:34:17] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 07Regression: topic-title-wikitext conversion error when non-privileged user edits deleted topic - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119157#2197851 (10Mattflaschen) [01:34:19] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Delete topics/board while another user tries to edit - a user gets confusing error messages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119156#2197852 (10Mattflaschen) [01:36:38] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Delete topics/board while another user tries to edit - a user gets confusing error messages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119156#2197854 (10Mattflaschen) I don't see the topic-title-wikitext message. (I didn't know exactly how to reproduce since it just says "a no... [01:40:08] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Delete topics/board while another user tries to edit - a user gets confusing error messages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119156#2197855 (10Mattflaschen) [01:50:11] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review: FlowReplies is not firing in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96620#2197860 (10Catrope) >>! In T96620#2197840, @Mattflaschen wrote: > @jmatazzoni @Catrope @Pginer-WMF @Neil_P._Quinn_WMF Is this data still being... [05:01:19] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Thanks, 13Patch-For-Review: Notifications: Getting multiple "Thank"s from one user for the same edit is possible (double/duplicate) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53303#2197936 (10MZMcBride) Hmmm, I just received a duplicate thanks on Meta-Wiki: 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Thanks, 13Patch-For-Review: Notifications: Getting multiple "Thank"s from one user for the same edit is possible (double/duplicate) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T53303#2197941 (10MZMcBride) ``` MariaDB [metawiki_p]> select * from logging_userindex where log_type = 'than... [05:23:36] 10Notifications: Setting default global preferences for cross-wiki notifications somewhere at meta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132410#2197960 (10Billinghurst) [05:24:28] 10Notifications: Setting default global preferences for cross-wiki notifications somewhere at meta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132410#2197430 (10Billinghurst) Apologies for shorthand approach. Hopefully now expanded and clarified. [05:53:31] 10Notifications: Setting default global preferences for cross-wiki notifications somewhere at meta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132410#2197430 (10AuFCL) Isn't this just a special case/suggested implimentation of T130655? [06:06:25] 10Notifications: Setting default global preferences for cross-wiki notifications somewhere at meta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132410#2198008 (10Billinghurst) They are related, one is the on/off switch for the functionality, whereas this is the settings for the switch. If a user just wants the default... [08:31:59] 10Notifications: Setting default global preferences for cross-wiki notifications somewhere at meta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132410#2198123 (10AuFCL) @Billinghurst O.K. Pardon my confusion but how, then is this proposal not a re-statement of (nominally already resolved T129077)? Unless I misunderstand... [09:03:57] 10Flow: User don't receive email notifications concerning its Flow talk page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132426#2198182 (10Trizek-WMF) [09:30:35] 10Flow: User don't receive email notifications concerning its Flow talk page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132426#2198272 (10Superjuju10) Screen of my notification preferences {F3864650} [10:05:14] (03PS4) 10Mooeypoo: [wip^n] Refactoring Echo's front end for MVC [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282677 [10:05:32] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip^n] Refactoring Echo's front end for MVC [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282677 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [10:44:46] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Wikimedia-Site-requests, 07Community-consensus-needed: Enable GuidedTour extension on sq.wikipedia - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132412#2198347 (10Luke081515) 05Open>03stalled (adding this tag and setting the task to stalled till the poll is finished) [11:09:37] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 10Dumps-Generation, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, and 3 others: Add Flow to database dumps - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89398#1103144 (10ArielGlenn) I've got a gerrit changeset which needs testing (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/282883/). I expect to be able to pas... [12:29:54] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 10WMF-Product-Development-Process, and 2 others: Cross-wiki notifications - announcements planning - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123570#2198554 (10Qgil) [12:43:28] (03PS2) 10Darthbhyrava: Add thank links to Special:Watchlist and Special:Contributions [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282616 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51541) [12:47:48] (03CR) 10Darthbhyrava: Add thank links to Special:Watchlist and Special:Contributions (034 comments) [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282616 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51541) (owner: 10Darthbhyrava) [12:59:03] 10Notifications: Setting default global preferences for cross-wiki notifications somewhere at meta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132410#2198674 (10Billinghurst) What I am proposing is that at meta that every account can set for every WMF wiki the notification preferences that the account name wants for al... [13:17:53] 10Flow: User don't receive email notifications concerning its Flow talk page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132426#2198182 (10Peachey88) Check they receive emails via Special:EmailUser or other email alerts such as watchlists [13:20:34] (03PS5) 10Mooeypoo: [wip^n] Refactoring Echo's front end for MVC [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282677 [13:20:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [wip^n] Refactoring Echo's front end for MVC [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282677 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [13:22:28] (03PS2) 10Matthias Mullie: [WIP] server-side crosswiki requests [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282738 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130636) [13:26:55] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] server-side crosswiki requests [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282738 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130636) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [13:40:29] (03PS3) 10Matthias Mullie: [WIP] server-side crosswiki requests [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282738 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130636) [13:45:56] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] server-side crosswiki requests [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282738 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130636) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [14:45:41] stephanebisson, step 1 complete: Things stopped exploding! They "just" don't work now. PROGRESS! [14:48:00] safety first [15:43:59] (03PS1) 10Anomie: Recreate test users for every test [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282954 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132411) [16:04:14] (03PS11) 10Sbisson: [WIP] Moderate notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/275049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93673) [16:08:50] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Moderate notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/275049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93673) (owner: 10Sbisson) [16:18:35] (03PS12) 10Sbisson: [WIP] Moderate notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/275049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93673) [16:46:18] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Thanks, 13Patch-For-Review: Add thanks links on Special:Watchlist and Special:Contributions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51541#2199602 (10darthbhyrava) Made some changes in accordance with @matej_suchanek 's views. Please take a look at the [[ https://gerrit.wikimedia.... [16:50:47] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Thanks, 13Patch-For-Review: Add thanks links on Special:Watchlist and Special:Contributions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T51541#2199610 (10matej_suchanek) [16:53:36] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Flow board move requiring allowCreation fails on zh.wp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127693#2199627 (10Etonkovidova) Checked move pages/Flow boards on zh.wikipedia.beta.wmflabs.org; also checked the case with moving sub-... [16:57:52] i'll be a few mins late to standup [17:08:11] (03CR) 10Gergő Tisza: [C: 032] Recreate test users for every test [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282954 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132411) (owner: 10Anomie) [17:19:28] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Recreate test users for every test [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/282954 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132411) (owner: 10Anomie) [17:20:58] hey ebernhardson i saw you guys are using setTOCEnabled in CirrusSearch [17:21:20] I'm hitting some issues with Wikivoyage and it seems related to this code path: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/281995/ [17:22:03] I was curious if you know much about the ParserOutput getTOCEnabled() function and why it would return false randomly [17:22:19] jdlrobson: wrong room :) but no i'm not really sure, i inherited the bit that disables TOC and it's "just worked" so far [17:22:44] lemme head to wikimedia-discovery - max may know too [17:25:42] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Retest all FlowReplies logging paths and make sure they validate - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78578#2199753 (10Mattflaschen) [17:25:44] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review: FlowReplies is not firing in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96620#2199754 (10Mattflaschen) [17:26:11] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review: FlowReplies is not firing in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T96620#1222641 (10Mattflaschen) [18:09:34] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review: Invite French users to take the Notification Survey (using the Notifications panel) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131893#2199906 (10Mattflaschen) Sorry for not updating here. I had this reverted because rendering problems became apparent aft... [18:22:20] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Flow board move requiring allowCreation fails on zh.wp - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127693#2199940 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [18:29:05] matt_flaschen: In case you didn't receive a notification, I've replied at https://gom.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic:T1wzzdworsdh8dpd [18:30:42] The_Discoverer, very interesting. Yeah, it is a feature that you don't have to load a talk page separately in view and post mode. [18:30:56] However, as mentioned byte size across the wire is not the only measure. [18:31:54] The_Discoverer, also, Flow has infinite scroll, which means you don't have to worry about talk pages getting big and having to archive them (automatically if you can get a bot to run on your wiki and configure it, or manually). [18:33:47] Yes I know.. infact the decison to implement Flow in gomwiki came out of a discussion about setting up an auto-archiving system for our main community page that was getting too long :) [18:37:37] matt_flaschen: I didn't get a notification for your reply [18:39:40] * ebernhardson keeps hoping one day we can fix titles in the Topic namespace to be more sane :( [18:40:26] The_Discoverer, are you sure. Maybe it got auto-marked-read because you visited the talk page. Check the read messages. [18:42:37] ebernhardson, yeah, we need to. But there's a lot of more urgent Flow tech debt (and also "we changed something. Please change Flow so the world doesn't break." which I don't know if counts as debt debt) unfortunately. [18:44:34] understandable, i had plenty of time to fix it as well but other things kept getting in the way... [18:45:40] 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016: EnableFlow should fail gracefully (or, just work!) if the user tries to enable Flow on a page that doesn't exist - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122780#2200073 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [18:46:30] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 07Availability, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Spike: Avoid use of merge() in Flow caches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94029#2200080 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [18:47:29] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10DBA: Replicate Echo tables to analytics-store - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115275#2200094 (10jmatazzoni) [18:48:20] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10DBA: Replicate Echo tables to analytics-store - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115275#1719744 (10jmatazzoni) @Catrope, this is a reminder to nudge Jaime on this ticket. [18:49:15] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Convert LQT -> Flow on pt.wikibooks - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113682#2200104 (10jmatazzoni) [18:49:36] 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Flow\Exception\FlowException from line 159 of Flow/includes/Formatter/ChangesListQuery.php: Revision not found in revisionCache - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T122329#2200107 (10jmatazzoni) 05Open>03Resolved [18:50:04] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 13Patch-For-Review: Beta Cluster Special:Contributions lags by a long time and notes slow Flow queries - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T78671#2200108 (10jmatazzoni) [18:50:42] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 10Datasets-General-or-Unknown, 13Patch-For-Review, and 2 others: Create XML Schema for Flow dump format(s) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112799#2200110 (10jmatazzoni) [18:50:58] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Collaboration-Team-Sprint-E-Everywhere-2015-07-14, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review, 07WorkType-Maintenance: Migrate Flow content to new separate logical External Store - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106363#2200111 (10jmatazzoni) [18:57:26] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 06Editing-Analysis, 13Patch-For-Review: Notification dashboards miscount time-to-read - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131206#2200164 (10jmatazzoni) [18:57:45] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Create a blog post about cross-wiki notifications feature release - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131112#2200165 (10jmatazzoni) [18:58:08] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07Epic, 07Tracking: Enable cross-wiki notifications by default - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130655#2200166 (10jmatazzoni) [18:58:32] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 05WMF-deploy-2016-04-12_(1.27.0-wmf.21): [Regression wmf.18] Messages badge sometimes shows negative number - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130853#2200173 (10jmatazzoni) [18:58:57] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Figure out if the Echo API with format=html is being used - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130661#2200174 (10jmatazzoni) [18:59:26] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10ArchCom-RfC, 10MediaWiki-ContentHandler: RfC: Content model storage - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105652#2200175 (10jmatazzoni) [19:00:13] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10MediaWiki-extensions-GuidedTour, 05MW-1.27-release-notes, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Technical-Debt: GuidedTour: Remove use of sync XHR - use mw.Api and async for parsing - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T46925#2200176 (10jmatazzoni) [19:00:46] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4: Delete old instances that are no longer used - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129389#2200182 (10jmatazzoni) [19:01:16] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 10Thanks: Flow failure with Thanks 'check experimental' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128628#2200186 (10jmatazzoni) [19:01:35] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10Thanks: Flow failure with Thanks 'check experimental' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128628#2080976 (10jmatazzoni) [19:01:59] 10Flow, 06Mobile-Apps, 06Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, 06Wikipedia-iOS-App-Product-Backlog: Mobile apps - Flow issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73754#2200188 (10jmatazzoni) [19:02:34] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure: Set up second External Store cluster on Beta - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128417#2200189 (10jmatazzoni) [19:02:59] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor: default VE makes board description/post blink when opening for Edit - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128013#2200204 (10jmatazzoni) [19:03:25] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Fix disabled Flow browser tests - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128051#2200205 (10jmatazzoni) [19:03:47] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Pagination for the Notification Page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129363#2200206 (10jmatazzoni) [19:04:52] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4: Accessibility of diff pages from Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131631#2200209 (10jmatazzoni) [19:05:04] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow: [betalabs]: Permalink for a topic directs to Flow Archive page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T128431#2200210 (10jmatazzoni) [19:05:14] (03Abandoned) 10Legoktm: With more feelings this time [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/280961 (owner: 10Legoktm) [19:12:18] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 06Mobile-Apps, 06Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, 06Wikipedia-iOS-App-Product-Backlog: Mobile apps - Flow issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73754#2200272 (10jmatazzoni) [19:13:10] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 06Mobile-Apps, 06Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, and 2 others: Mobile apps - Flow issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73754#760836 (10jmatazzoni) [19:15:53] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 06Mobile-Apps, 06Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, and 2 others: Mobile apps - Flow issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73754#2200315 (10Josve05a) Who i this a tracker for? I see no tasks it is tracking (only one tasks which is in the description). Nwit... [19:18:54] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4: Pagination for the Notification Page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129363#2200339 (10jmatazzoni) [19:21:11] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Cross-wiki notifications on mobile show separate bundles for alerts and messages, should be one bundle - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131683#2200370 (10jmatazzoni) [19:21:51] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10UI-Standardization, 10VisualEditor, 07Design: Come up with a better re-usable UI concept for a button to switch editor-mode; the current one is confusing, and hard to discover - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116417#2200373 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [19:23:13] (03PS13) 10Sbisson: [WIP] Moderate notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/275049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93673) [19:25:21] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Make 'your page' bold in Notifications for bundled edits from User talk wikitext pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131476#2200423 (10jmatazzoni) [19:25:54] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4: Notifications - the whole page is bold - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131073#2200429 (10jmatazzoni) [19:26:27] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Add tooltips for "X" and "..." icons - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T130831#2200431 (10jmatazzoni) [19:27:04] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Project labels inside the cross-wiki bundle should link to the target wiki Notification Page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127419#2200435 (10jmatazzoni) [19:27:43] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review, 07user-notice: Make "mark as read" an explicit action on current no-JS version of Special:Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115528#2200444 (10jmatazzoni) [19:28:01] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review: compare-post-revisions page displays numeric character reference in topic titles - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131628#2200450 (10jmatazzoni) [19:29:02] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review, 07Schema-change: Delete notifications that are disabled in preferences and maybe uninstalled/non-existent ones. - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129727#2200460 (10jmatazzoni) [19:29:20] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07user-notice: Prepare and review announcements concerning Cross-wiki Notifications as a by-default feature on all wikis - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129643#2200462 (10jmatazzoni) [19:29:48] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10MediaWiki-General-or-Unknown: Implement a server-side mw.MessagePoster equivalent - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123522#2200463 (10jmatazzoni) [19:33:17] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Moderate notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/275049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93673) (owner: 10Sbisson) [19:36:24] (03PS14) 10Sbisson: [WIP] Moderate notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/275049 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93673) [20:04:04] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 06Mobile-Apps, 06Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, and 2 others: Mobile apps - Flow issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73754#2200669 (10JMinor) This is in our tracking column so we can monitor if this picks back up or is worked on by any other teams. I... [20:05:37] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 06Mobile-Apps, 06Wikipedia-Android-App-Backlog, and 2 others: Mobile apps - Flow issues (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73754#2200672 (10Josve05a) As I see it, this task has never had any tasks associated (blocked/blocking) with it. (only a depricated t... [20:51:14] 10Flow: User don't receive email notifications concerning their Flow talk page when "Talk page message" is on, but "Flow" is off - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132426#2200933 (10Mattflaschen) [20:57:59] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 07Availability, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Spike: Avoid use of merge() in Flow caches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94029#2200965 (10aaron) Was this closed by mistake? [20:59:59] 10Flow: User don't receive email notifications concerning their Flow talk page when "Talk page message" is on, but "Flow" is off - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132426#2198182 (10Mattflaschen) Right now, flowusertalk is just a message variant (adding -user-talk). If they were separate notification types (p... [21:07:13] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 07Availability, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Spike: Avoid use of merge() in Flow caches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94029#1153047 (10Mattflaschen) [21:07:15] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 07Availability: Use WAN cache delete() and slave populations to avoid merge() - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120009#1842549 (10Mattflaschen) [21:07:45] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 07Availability: Use WAN cache delete() and slave populations to avoid merge() - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120009#1842549 (10Mattflaschen) [21:07:47] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 07Availability, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Spike: Avoid use of merge() in Flow caches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94029#1153047 (10Mattflaschen) [21:08:21] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 07Availability: Flow: Use WAN cache delete() and slave populations to avoid merge() - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120009#1842549 (10Mattflaschen) [21:08:40] 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 07Availability, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Spike: Avoid use of merge() in Flow caches - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94029#1153047 (10Mattflaschen) Updated the dependencies. [21:10:45] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow: Remove in-process Memcached wrapper or find an appropriate solution for cross-DC world - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120008#2201028 (10Mattflaschen) [21:10:47] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 07Availability: Flow: Use WAN cache delete() and slave populations to avoid merge() - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120009#2201027 (10Mattflaschen) [21:12:05] 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Collaboration-Team-Sprint-E-Everywhere-2015-07-14, 10Flow, 13Patch-For-Review, 07WorkType-Maintenance: Migrate Flow content to new separate logical External Store in production - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106363#2201034 (10Mattflaschen) [21:16:13] Getting food [21:18:08] 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4: Notifications - the whole page is bold - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131073#2201061 (10Etonkovidova) Resolving topics sends notifications where topic titles are parsed (true for 
, , ,  tags in titles).   Steps to reproduc...
[21:29:45] 	 Out for errands. Back in ~2 hrs.
[21:57:37] 	 matt_flaschen: I am checking https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129439  and the topic title is not treated as a plain text for resolved topic notifications 
[21:57:43] 	 matt_flaschen: which is https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131073 
[21:57:55] 	 matt_flaschen: do you think those tickets are related?
[22:04:42] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: topic-title-plaintext content format to treat topic-title-wikitext as plain text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129439#2201344 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in betalabs -the only problem is with Resolved topic notifications whi...
[22:17:45] 	 hmm, my flow 'switch to wikicode' button is too high on mediawiki.org. It no longer aligns with the bottom of the textarea
[22:20:05] 	 matt_flaschen: https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-vagrant/role/globalblocking.html is empty - shuold somebody add info for globalblocking vagrant role ?
[22:25:21] 	 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Notifications, 07Epic: Echo: Provide the new bundling system replacing the existing hacky one - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120153#2201428 (10Catrope) a:03SBisson Assigning to Stephane as this is essentially what he's been doing.
[22:25:47] 	 thedj: it's filed as https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T127244 - pls check if it's the same issue that you see 
[22:26:21] 	 "topic title is not treated as a plain text for resolved topic notifications" may be related to T131073.
[22:26:21] 	 T131073: Notifications - the whole page is bold - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131073
[22:26:23] 	 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Notifications, 07Epic: Change bundling system to allow individual treatment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120153#2201430 (10Catrope)
[22:26:55] 	 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Notifications: Echo: Allow un-bundling of Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T61005#2201446 (10Catrope)
[22:26:57] 	 etonkovidova: thx !
[22:26:57] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review: Notifications panel: Easily explore bundled notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114356#2201447 (10Catrope)
[22:27:03] 	 same indeed
[22:27:05] 	 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Notifications, 07Epic: Change bundling system to allow individual treatment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120153#1846581 (10Catrope)
[22:27:07] 	 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Notifications: Echo: Allow un-bundling of Notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T61005#623974 (10Catrope)
[22:27:29] 	 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Implement expandable notification groups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115423#2201454 (10Catrope)
[22:27:31] 	 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Implement compressed rendering of notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115422#2201455 (10Catrope)
[22:27:33] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review: Notifications panel: Easily explore bundled notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114356#1692910 (10Catrope)
[22:27:35] 	 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Implement compressed rendering of notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115422#1723904 (10Catrope)
[22:27:37] 	 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review, 07WorkType-NewFunctionality: Implement expandable notification groups - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115423#1723912 (10Catrope)
[22:27:38] 	 matt_flaschen: thx - should add it as a blocking task
[22:27:39] 	 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Notifications, 07Epic: Change bundling system to allow individual treatment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120153#1846581 (10Catrope)
[22:28:01] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Change bundling system to allow individual treatment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120153#1846581 (10Catrope)
[22:28:07] 	 etonkovidova, I'll take a quick look at the globalblocking one, since I worked on that.
[22:28:55] 	 matt_flaschen: there is no description for the role - that's all
[22:29:46] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Change bundling system to allow individual treatment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120153#2201462 (10Catrope)
[22:29:48] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 10Notifications, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: Remove Notifications about posts/topics that have been Moderated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93673#2201461 (10Catrope)
[22:30:03] 	 etonkovidova, yeah.  There should be, since there is in the source code.
[22:30:15] 	 matt_flaschen: yup
[22:31:13] 	 matt_flaschen: vagrant roles info globalblocking gives info from the code, but it's not like other roles description. And mediawiki does not have anything
[22:31:29] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07user-notice: Revise Sorting of Notifications on the Fly-Out Menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123018#2201464 (10Catrope)
[22:31:31] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Notification panel: Clearer use of notification badges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115845#2201463 (10Catrope)
[22:33:49] 	 10Collab-Notifications-Page, 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4: Notifications - the whole page is bold - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131073#2201471 (10Etonkovidova)
[22:33:51] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow, 03Collab-Archive-2015-2016, 13Patch-For-Review: topic-title-plaintext content format to treat topic-title-wikitext as plain text - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129439#2201472 (10Etonkovidova)
[22:34:35] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Remove automatic mark-as-read - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132525#2201485 (10Catrope)
[22:34:47] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Collaboration-Community-Engagement, 07user-notice: Revise Sorting of Notifications on the Fly-Out Menu - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T123018#1919410 (10Catrope)
[22:34:49] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Remove automatic mark-as-read - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132525#2201500 (10Catrope)
[22:36:59] 	 etonkovidova, a lot of them seem to be broken.  I found https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-vagrant/role/elk.html which seems right and has both class description and param docs.
[22:37:49] 	 matt_flaschen: hmm... ok 
[22:38:40] 	 etonkovidova, it looks like a pain to get the doc-generator running locally so I'm guessing a little bit.
[22:39:03] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Thanks: Bundle "Thanks" notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120152#2201506 (10Catrope)
[22:39:22] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications: Change bundling system to allow individual treatment - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120153#2201511 (10Catrope)
[22:39:24] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review: Notifications panel: Easily explore bundled notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114356#2201512 (10Catrope)
[22:39:26] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 10Thanks: Bundle "Thanks" notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T120152#1846553 (10Catrope)
[22:39:43] 	 matt_flaschen: I  just was not sure about our role documentation policy :) If it's not critical - let it be like that 
[22:40:45] 	 etonkovidova, I am not going to spend a long time on it.  Hopefully https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/283095/ works.
[22:41:08] 	 matt_flaschen: I see - ok
[22:43:37] 	 RoanKattouw, jmatazzoni__, et al, anything I should flag at scrum of scrums tomorrow?
[22:44:41] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 06Editing-Analysis, 13Patch-For-Review: Notification dashboards miscount time-to-read - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131206#2201517 (10mforns) @Neil_P._Quinn_WMF   The configuration for the dashboard: http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/enwiki-features lives in: https://gi...
[22:48:33] 	 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Notifications: Use smart quotes in notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T126719#2201534 (10Catrope) 05Open>03declined Closing this task because notifications should not be treated differently than other UI messages. The general task is {T12352}
[22:48:35] 	 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Notifications: Styling adjustments for the Notification Panel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119374#2201536 (10Catrope)
[23:05:21] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Notifications, 13Patch-For-Review: Notifications panel: Easily explore bundled notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114356#2201581 (10Catrope) Today Stephane and I discussed his patch for T93673/T120153, which addresses a lot of the backend problems. With his patch, bun...
[23:13:15] 	 06Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10Parsoid: When I'm typing in wikitext in Flow, it should not send my wikitext through Parsoid - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T131090#2201601 (10Arlolra) p:05Triage>03Normal
[23:44:46] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4: [betalabs]  'Update summary' on blank summary will create an empty view-topic-summary page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132531#2201676 (10Etonkovidova)
[23:54:38] 	 03Collab-Team-2016-Q4, 10Flow: [betalabs]  'Update summary' on blank summary will create an empty view-topic-summary page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T132531#2201733 (10Mattflaschen)