[10:05:53] (03CR) 10Hashar: "@Paladox that is pending dependent change https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/255561/" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/246424 (owner: 10Paladox) [11:10:51] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Echo, 7Browser-Support-Apple-Safari, 5Patch-For-Review: The messages panel cannot be closed anymore on iOS - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T113881#1837934 (10Aklapper) @Mooeypoo: This task has been "Unbreak Now" priority for two months. The Gerrit change has not seen any... [11:18:20] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow, 10WMF-Server-Backports, 5Patch-For-Review, 7WorkType-NewFunctionality: History pagination does not work properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112230#1837962 (10Aklapper) The Gerrit change has not seen any updates for six weeks. Are there any news / progress t... [11:20:41] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow: Same topic displayed twice on a board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117973#1837972 (10Aklapper) This task has been "Unbreak Now" priority for three weeks. Are there any news / progress to share? [[ https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Phabricator/Project_management#Priori... [11:21:31] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow: Main topic list pagination can only paginate at most 500 topics - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114456#1837975 (10Aklapper) >>! In T114456#1777438, @SBisson wrote: > Will resume work on this once {T108291} (https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/245621) is merged That tas... [11:34:43] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow: Main topic list pagination can only paginate at most 500 topics - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114456#1837990 (10SBisson) p:5Unbreak!>3Normal [12:33:46] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Echo, 10MobileFrontend, 3Google-Code-In-2015, 7Mobile: There is no way to distinguish old and new notifications in mobile - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119597#1838026 (10bmansurov) [13:09:58] (03PS19) 10Sbisson: Flow notification presentation models [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251512 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116845) [13:13:48] (03CR) 10Sbisson: "Ic64688253d0a96d5160bf10c1cfc1269e4df3857 uses this." [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255701 (owner: 10Sbisson) [13:59:28] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow: Same topic displayed twice on a board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117973#1838125 (10Trizek-WMF) I haven't seen any other cases like this one, and the affected Board didn't display two topics the day after. I leave the decision to Matt. [14:22:29] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Echo, 7Documentation: Create a page about Special:Notifications page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119873#1838142 (10Trizek-WMF) 3NEW a:3Trizek-WMF [15:13:02] (03PS9) 10Sbisson: Presentation model for edit-user-talk [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253599 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116843) [16:17:15] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Undo of a flow topic edit throws exception - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119881#1838333 (10Luke081515) 3NEW [17:15:28] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: View and undo of board description diffs at testwiki:talk:sandbox throws InvalidDataException - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119881#1838738 (10Quiddity) [17:18:44] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant: Preload MediaWiki-Vagrant with Flow boards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119485#1838778 (10Mattflaschen) [17:19:04] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10MediaWiki-Vagrant: Preload MediaWiki-Vagrant with Flow boards - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119485#1827438 (10Mattflaschen) [17:24:42] (03PS12) 10Mattflaschen: Fix history pagination and give user the number of entries they requested [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245621 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112230) [17:42:47] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: No way to remove format in Flow posts other than changing to edit source - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119600#1838920 (10Mattflaschen) VisualEditor's "Clear styling" button can not be used to change headings to normal text currently. When editing an article in VE, t... [17:43:42] matt_flaschen: Not just currently. :_) [17:46:23] James_F, thanks. I was resisting the temptation to assume current behavior is always the intended/best UX. In that case, a toolbar button for this use case is pretty much out. Clear styling is a maybe for Flow VE toolbar, heading menu is right out. [17:46:36] * James_F nods. [17:46:50] We intentionally do clear-styling only for styling, not formatting. [17:47:20] James_F, formatting meaning structure? [17:48:10] stephanebisson, could you retest https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/245621/ ? I haven't changed anything except rebasing, but I can't reproduce the bug. [17:48:27] matt_flaschen: Yeah, H*, *L, Blockquote are 'formatting' (block-level). [17:49:14] matt_flaschen: sure [17:49:29] (H1/H2/H3/H4/H5/H6, UL/OL/DL, blockquote) [17:49:40] Possibly something else I've forgotten. [17:49:42] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: No way to remove heading (and other structural formatting) in Flow posts other than changing to edit source - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119600#1838964 (10Mattflaschen) [17:50:22] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: No way to remove heading (and other structural formatting) in Flow posts other than changing to edit source - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119600#1830673 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T119600#1838920, @Mattflaschen wrote: > VisualEditor's "Clear styling" button can not be u... [17:50:29] 
[17:50:47] 	 Aha, yeah. Thanks, RoanKattouw.
[17:50:52] 	 I should have looked at the drop-down. :-)
[17:56:15] 	 matt_flaschen: Same issue. when I scroll down the board it triggers 'load more' the first 2 times. The third time nothing happens.
[18:01:08] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, 7Database, 7Schema-change: Create "echo_unread_wikis" table on wikishared database for Echo cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119525#1839032 (10Catrope)
[18:02:35] 	 stephanebisson, thanks for retesting.  I just tested on a 41-topic board.  There are four "load mores", and it works for me in both recently active and newest orderings.
[18:02:47] 	 stephanebisson, does it fire the AJAX request, but get an error in the response, or not fire it at all?
[18:03:00] 	 matt_flaschen: does not fire at all
[18:03:01] 	 Also, how many topics are on the board.  Maybe an XML dump would help.
[18:03:43] 	 stephanebisson, and did you delete any topics and stuff like that?
[18:03:56] 	 matt_flaschen: my local Talk:Flow_QA has *a lot* of topics
[18:04:18] 	 matt_flaschen: some deleted, some suppressed since I run the browser tests on it
[18:04:35] 	 stephanebisson, okay.  (So did mine until I destroyed it to do dump test).  I'll create a lot of topics then retest.  Are you testing with recently active ordering?
[18:05:12] 	 matt_flaschen: newest topics first, I'll try with the other ordering
[18:06:27] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Echo: Add filtering for unread notifications only to meta=notifications API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119890#1839072 (10Catrope) 3NEW
[18:06:56] 	 matt_flaschen: the issue is only with 'newest topics' sorting
[18:10:20] 	 stephanebisson, okay, thanks.  That one also works on the current board I'm using, but will focus on that first when I retest with thousands.
[18:12:36] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Flow with MediaWiki message delivery - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119630#1839085 (10Mattflaschen)
[18:13:08] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Flow with MediaWiki message delivery - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119630#1831399 (10Mattflaschen) Using the topic page as PAGENAME is intended (see {T59154}, though), so I removed that part.
[18:13:17] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Flow with MediaWiki message delivery goes into RecentChanges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119630#1839096 (10Mattflaschen)
[18:13:36] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Flow with MediaWiki message delivery goes into RecentChanges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119630#1831399 (10Mattflaschen) This is probably a duplicate of {T73197}.
[18:13:58] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Flow with MediaWiki message delivery goes into RecentChanges - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119630#1839100 (10Mattflaschen)
[18:13:59] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10Pywikibot-Flow: Flow should support making actions as a bot and set rc_bot accordingly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73197#758231 (10Mattflaschen)
[18:15:37] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Anchors are broken when you copy/paste a link on visual mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119635#1839106 (10Mattflaschen)
[18:16:13] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Wikimedia-General-or-Unknown, 7Database, 7Schema-change: Create "echo_unread_wikis" table on wikishared database for Echo cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119525#1839112 (10Catrope) 5Open>3Resolved a:3Catrope I've created the table
[18:25:52] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Echo: Add filtering for unread notifications only to meta=notifications API - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119890#1839135 (10Catrope) p:5Triage>3High
[18:26:59] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Unable to manage flow discussions - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119690#1839142 (10Mattflaschen) Please don't file 4-5 different bugs combined into one.  I'll make it just about 1-2 (not sure if we want to change that, but I don't know if there's specifically a bug ab...
[18:27:47] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Flow topic pages are made inaccessible when board is deleted, but the topic pages are not deleted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119690#1839156 (10Mattflaschen)
[18:37:13] 	 RoanKattouw: fighting with hangout, will join standup when/if I win
[18:37:35] 	 OK :)
[19:02:28] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 6Community-Liaison, 7Documentation: Create a page about the different notifications you can receive (messages panel) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119730#1839327 (10Mattflaschen)
[19:02:36] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 6Community-Liaison, 7Documentation: Create a page about the different notifications you can receive (messages panel) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119730#1834187 (10Mattflaschen) The Messages panel also includes messages left on your user talk page, even if it is non-Flow...
[19:04:29] 	 RoanKattouw, we should probably also invite Trizek if it's a feasible time for him.
[19:04:30] 	 Good call, I'll invite him as optional
[19:07:06] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor: Insert a mention in any Flow editor (in VE mode) is broken (on master) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119773#1839371 (10Mattflaschen)
[19:07:53] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Flow: Come up with preliminary idea of data mapping for ElasticSearch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65492#1839374 (10Mattflaschen)
[19:08:02] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Flow: Come up with preliminary idea of data mapping for ElasticSearch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65492#686569 (10Mattflaschen) 5Open>3Resolved
[19:08:47] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Flow: Come up with preliminary idea of data mapping for ElasticSearch - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T65492#686569 (10Mattflaschen) This seems to be done.  The backend for the board search feature is done.
[19:10:10] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow, 10WMF-Server-Backports, 5Patch-For-Review, 7WorkType-NewFunctionality: History pagination does not work properly - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112230#1839381 (10Mattflaschen) I've started working on it again.
[19:11:45] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow: View and undo of board description diffs at testwiki:talk:sandbox throws InvalidDataException - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119881#1839382 (10Mattflaschen)
[19:13:42] 	 (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: "Per IRC, this happens just for newest ordering. The AJAX request is not fired at all (indicating the previous pagination information is p" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245621 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112230) (owner: 10Mattflaschen)
[19:58:57] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Analytics-Cluster, 7Database: Replicate Echo tables to analytics-store - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115275#1839508 (10Neil_P._Quinn_WMF)
[20:06:49] 	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Get bundled notifications count [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255701 (owner: 10Sbisson)
[20:12:41] 	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Get bundled notifications count [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255701 (owner: 10Sbisson)
[20:41:25] 	 I'll be leaving 5-ish Pacific today, but I'll be on a little bit more late.
[20:59:49] 	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 04-1] Presentation model for edit-user-talk (032 comments) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253599 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116843) (owner: 10Sbisson)
[21:09:39] 	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Hide thanks button for botedits if bots are not allowed to receive thanks in mobile as well [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255143 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118686) (owner: 10Glaisher)
[21:13:48] 	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Hide thanks button for botedits if bots are not allowed to receive thanks in mobile as well [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255143 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118686) (owner: 10Glaisher)
[21:14:50] 	 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Wrong message dates in Flow on certain OS/architectures - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T109528#1839638 (10Mattflaschen) Thanks for doing this research.  We could also look at using BCMath where helpful.  We're already using bcadd in one place.
[21:20:50] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow: Same topic displayed twice on a board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117973#1839639 (10Mattflaschen) p:5Unbreak!>3High
[21:21:38] 	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 04-1] Flow notification presentation models (033 comments) [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251512 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116845) (owner: 10Sbisson)
[21:26:24] 	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Special:Notifications formatter [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253643 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[21:30:08] 	 (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Special:Notifications formatter [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253643 (owner: 10Legoktm)
[21:34:11] 	 RoanKattouw, my vacation is entirely out of range of the spreadsheet... I can add columns if you want, though.
[21:35:32] 	 matt_flaschen: Yeah maybe add a week, because both you and Moriel will be out
[21:35:39] 	 Will do
[21:40:49] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Echo, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 5Patch-For-Review: Set up and enable cross-wiki Echo database backend on beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119522#1839683 (10Catrope) a:5Legoktm>3Catrope
[21:43:20] 	 RoanKattouw, also, I might be off-grid for part, but I don't know for sure yet.  Will update the spreadsheet as soon as I know if it's going to happen.
[21:43:27] 	 OK
[21:43:46] 	 The definition of red and yellow keeps changing
[21:43:56] 	 Just this morning red meant "leave me alone"
[21:44:48] 	 But yeah I've made red the days that I'm either flying, or catching up on sleep, or spending the day with relatives without much if any internet access
[21:45:52] 	 RoanKattouw, for this vacation, the *possible* off-grid part will mean, "hiking somewhere between Philadelphia and Lancaster with my cell phone but it probably ran out of battery by then"
[21:46:05] 	 hah
[21:46:19] 	 Having just spent hours on highways with no reception just yesterday, I know what you mean
[21:46:51] 	 Even the rest stops on I-5 didn't have working data, or maybe that was just because of how crowded it was
[21:50:56] 	 Yeah, probably overloaded. I've heard NYC was like that on an ongoing basis when smartphones started rolling out.
[21:53:02] 	 matt_flaschen: Can I grab a quick +2 on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/256120/ ?
[21:54:08] 	 stephanebisson, I ran a script in the background to create 2000 topics on Talk:Flow_QA.  No sign of issues so far, so I probably need to mess with deleting and suppressing topics.  Let me know if you have any thoughts on it.
[21:55:59] 	 Thanks
[21:57:10] 	 (03PS6) 10Catrope: Presentation model for page-linked [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253634 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116843) (owner: 10Sbisson)
[22:05:35] 	 I can reproduce the history pagination patch now (well, I have a board that demonstrates it).
[22:08:56] 	 (03PS66) 10Mooeypoo: Add OOUI widgets for cross-wiki bundled notifications [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/247017 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115419) 
[22:54:42] 	 lol, turns out my global user ID on the beta cluster is 12
[22:54:52] 	 Even though my local user ID on enwiki beta is 1374
[22:54:55] 	 Not sure how that happened
[22:55:32] 	 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Echo, 10Beta-Cluster-Infrastructure, 5Patch-For-Review: Set up and enable cross-wiki Echo database backend on beta cluster - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119522#1839883 (10Catrope) 5Open>3Resolved
[23:02:49] 	 re: my microphone problems, I believe I've found the solution in http://www.xkyle.com/disabling-microphone-auto-gain-sensitivity-for-google-plus-hangouts/
[23:12:37] 	 (03PS7) 10Catrope: Presentation model for page-linked [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253634 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116843) (owner: 10Sbisson)
[23:12:40] 	 (03PS1) 10Catrope: Allow grouping for getBundleCount() [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/256132 
[23:15:49] 	 (03PS10) 10Catrope: Presentation model for edit-user-talk [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253599 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116843) (owner: 10Sbisson)
[23:16:06] 	 (03CR) 10Catrope: "PS10: Rebased onto https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/256132" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253599 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116843) (owner: 10Sbisson)
[23:18:26] 	 mooeypoo: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114237
[23:33:25] 	 (03PS1) 10Mooeypoo: [wip] Add cross-wiki as a beta feature [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/256138 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114237) 
[23:38:15] 	 (03CR) 10Mooeypoo: "Might be an irrelevant question, but I am making sure: why do we even include composer.lock in the repo at all? Isn't the usual way we do " [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255561 (owner: 10Hashar)
[23:39:13] 	 uhm legoktm your input here? composer.lock? should we not have it *untracked* ? wasn't sure if I should -2 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/255561/
[23:43:57] 	 (03PS11) 10Catrope: Presentation model for edit-user-talk [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253599 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116843) (owner: 10Sbisson)
[23:44:55] 	 (03PS1) 10Mooeypoo: Stop tracking composer.lock [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/256141 
[23:46:17] 	 (03CR) 10Mooeypoo: [C: 04-2] "After verifying with Roan and James, we are removing composer.lock file." [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/255561 (owner: 10Hashar)
[23:51:09] 	 (03CR) 10Jforrester: [C: 031] Stop tracking composer.lock [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/256141 (owner: 10Mooeypoo)
[23:52:29] 	 (03PS8) 10Catrope: Presentation model for page-linked [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253634 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116843) (owner: 10Sbisson)
[23:53:07] 	 Really hope we can drastically simplify the moderation DB/index queries as part of implementing RevDel.
[23:53:37] 	 Would probably require big schema changes, but might well be worth it.
[23:54:06] 	 (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 04-1] Presentation model for edit-user-talk (031 comment) [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/253599 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116843) (owner: 10Sbisson)