[10:12:13] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1792767 (10Aklapper) [12:09:27] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Echo, 7Design, 5Patch-For-Review, 7WorkType-NewFunctionality: Allow marking Echo notifications as unread - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T73564#1793060 (10Pginer-WMF) As I proposed in T115581 (and was copied to the description of this ticket), my idea was to use the sec... [12:52:45] (03PS15) 10Hashar: Recurse into sub folders for jshint and jscs [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250186 (owner: 10Paladox) [12:57:15] (03CR) 10Hashar: [C: 032] Recurse into sub folders for jshint and jscs [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250186 (owner: 10Paladox) [13:01:32] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Recurse into sub folders for jshint and jscs [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250186 (owner: 10Paladox) [13:04:40] (03CR) 10Paladox: "Thanks" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/250186 (owner: 10Paladox) [14:42:42] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10MediaWiki-extensions-PageCuration, 7Browser-Tests, 7Ruby: Update PageTriage mediawiki_selenium Ruby gem to version 1.x - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117979#1793436 (10zeljkofilipin) [14:43:43] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7Browser-Tests: Fix or delete failing Flow browsertests Jenkins jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94153#1793444 (10zeljkofilipin) [14:43:49] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Echo, 7Browser-Tests: Fix or delete failing Echo browsertests Jenkins jobs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T94152#1793445 (10zeljkofilipin) [15:12:59] (03CR) 10Sbisson: [C: 04-1] "Now I don't see the DB error but when I scroll down, it loads new topics but when I scroll down again it doesn't load anything." [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/245621 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112230) (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [16:07:35] (03CR) 10Alex Monk: [C: 032] Follow-up 715e950bd33: also activate EditPostWidget in nojs form code path [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251560 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118006) (owner: 10Catrope) [16:12:06] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Follow-up 715e950bd33: also activate EditPostWidget in nojs form code path [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.27.0-wmf.5) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251560 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118006) (owner: 10Catrope) [16:22:58] (03CR) 10Matthias Mullie: "I thought I was using something else that already stripped out moderated stuff, but turns out that was not the case (anymore?)" (0315 comments) [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/242569 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89398) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [16:25:18] (03PS11) 10Matthias Mullie: Dump Flow data [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/242569 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T89398) [16:28:11] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Cannot paste category into editor in VE mode (master, beta, mw.org) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118191#1793817 (10SBisson) 3NEW [16:30:59] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata.org, and 2 others: Enable the Flow personal talk opt-in Beta Feature on Wikidata.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116611#1793832 (10Mattflaschen) Enabled. Tested on my page at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:Mattflaschen-WMF . I... [16:36:24] matt_flaschen: Thank you, BTW. :-) [16:36:45] James_F, you're welcome. [16:37:08] * James_F has Flow-nabled both his accounts' Wikidata talk pages. [16:37:42] As I said in ops, although the edit patch sort of works in prod, there are some issues (I never worked on or tested that one locally). I'll confirm then fix. [16:38:18] * James_F nods. [16:38:25] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor: Cannot paste category into editor in VE mode (master, beta, mw.org) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118191#1793855 (10Mattflaschen) [16:43:12] Found it, I think it's been broken for a while. [16:46:28] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10UI-Standardization, 10VisualEditor, 7Design: Come up with a better re-usable UI concept for a button to switch editor-mode; the current one is confusing, and hard to discover - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116417#1793877 (10Pginer-WMF) >>! In T116417#1770006,... [16:50:01] (03PS1) 10Mattflaschen: Fix JS exception on dedicated (no-JS) edit post page. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251985 [16:55:37] (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Added Rakefile [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251990 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) [16:55:40] (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Added Rakefile [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251991 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) [16:55:56] (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Added Rakefile [extensions/PageTriage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251997 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) [16:56:14] (03PS1) 10Zfilipin: Added Rakefile [extensions/WikiLove] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252006 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) [16:58:15] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1793940 (10Mattflaschen) I would prefer it be faster too as a developer, but debug mode is not for normal usage. Also, this is... [17:03:01] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1793956 (10Mattflaschen) We might be able to not load (though a lot is accessible through keyboard shortcuts even though it app... [17:05:02] stephanebisson, re the history patch, so you have like 21+ topics, and infinite scroll works the first time (to show 11-20), but not the second, to show 21+? [17:14:42] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] "Oooops" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251985 (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [17:15:31] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] getTopicList: Specify vtlsortby to avoid falling back on default [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251798 (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [17:21:34] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Fix JS exception on dedicated (no-JS) edit post page. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251985 (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [17:22:07] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: getTopicList: Specify vtlsortby to avoid falling back on default [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251798 (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [17:27:57] matt_flaschen: right [17:28:44] I did see a bug report last week about how the TOC behaves that way [17:28:50] infinite scroll only working the first time [17:31:31] RoanKattouw, yeah, I filed that one. [17:36:18] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "check experimental" [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251990 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [17:36:20] There is also https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118108 but that is not the same thing. [17:36:21] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "check experimental" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251991 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [17:36:33] It's probably my patch, I'll track it down later. [17:36:39] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "check experimental" [extensions/PageTriage] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/251997 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [17:36:46] Unrelatedly, http://tools.wmflabs.org/hashtags/ is interesting. [17:37:09] (03CR) 10Zfilipin: "check experimental" [extensions/WikiLove] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/252006 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T117993) (owner: 10Zfilipin) [18:21:27] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Echo, 7Design: Notification panel: Control notification volume - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115264#1794245 (10MGChecker) I agrre options like you told would be really useful, so you have more control over the Noatifiaction volume, but I think it's important o have a ove... [18:39:46] we're running late [18:39:50] joining now... [18:49:38] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 6WMF-Legal: Flow should allow users to respect CC-BY-SA license by citing the authors in the history of a topic when copying content - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118115#1794306 (10He7d3r) [18:49:39] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7Design: Flow: Editing existing content should give the editor a dialog requesting an edit-summary - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59894#1794307 (10He7d3r) [18:59:37] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1794350 (10He7d3r) Well, how else can I find the source of bugs such as T110182 if not using debug mode? An URL like https://pt... [19:02:45] legoktm: the huge spike in notifications in march & april was ‘edit-user-talk’ notifications [19:02:54] any chance those were related to SUL? [19:03:27] anyway, seems like the spike is legit :p [19:08:48] mlitn: yep, that would be it [19:08:59] mlitn: is there a link where I can see this spike? :) [19:09:08] http://ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/dashboards/enwiki-features [19:09:15] bottom 3 charts [19:09:22] (that was enwiki) [19:10:34] loool [19:24:34] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Echo, 7Epic, 7WorkType-NewFunctionality: Notifications Panel: Support cross-wiki notifications - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114350#1794399 (10Pginer-WMF) [19:24:36] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Echo: Minimal exposure of cross-wiki notifications in the Notification Panel - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T114354#1794396 (10Pginer-WMF) 5Open>3declined a:3Pginer-WMF As per the different meeting discussions, it seems the first iteration can already achieve what is d... [19:33:51] legoktm: And almost all of them unread! [19:36:30] :( [20:08:52] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Echo, 7Accessibility, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-11-10_(1.27.0-wmf.6): Mark as read 'x' button is very small - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T112217#1794528 (10Etonkovidova) Checked in betalabs with Chrome 46, FF 41, and Safari 9.0.1 The closing/read button -... [20:36:44] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow, 10Wikidata, 10Wikidata.org, and 2 others: Enable the Flow personal talk opt-in Beta Feature on Wikidata.org - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116611#1794552 (10Etonkovidova) Checked with my User talk page on wikidata. [21:10:20] 3Collaboration-Team-Current, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor: Cannot paste category into editor in VE mode (master, beta, mw.org) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118191#1794577 (10Etonkovidova) The same problem with non-Flow page - checked in betalabs. [21:21:59] (03PS5) 10Legoktm: [WIP] Track what wikis a user has unread notifications on [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248905 [21:24:33] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] [WIP] Track what wikis a user has unread notifications on [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/248905 (owner: 10Legoktm) [22:27:18] matt_flaschen: a question - I saw upon converting User page to Flow - all existing templates are moved and displayed(!) in the Board description. Is it correct? [22:28:29] User talk page (pet peeve). [22:28:44] Yes, it's by design. [22:30:32] matt_flaschen: thx [22:30:39] iirc we were going to try to exclude templates that had "welcome" (and local variations) in them. Although that's difficult if the templates are subst:d... :/ [22:31:20] Yeah, there is an exclude list. [22:31:26] Let me check if it applies to opt-in. [22:32:07] quiddity: moving&preserving&displaying templates in Board description looks weird... [22:33:39] etonkovidova, the principle makes more sense for certain instances... eg article talkpages, at wikis that use a talk page banner system. or for people like me who put "introductory material" at the top of their user talk page... (e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Quiddity [22:33:40] etonkovidova, why? They have the same purpose as on the original page. [22:33:58] quiddity, are you sure we spec-ed that. There is a "do not convert" template (not the same thing). [22:33:59] it would make a good "option", but options are complicated.... [22:34:23] It is an option. [22:34:30] If you don't like it, you can remove them afterwards. ;) [22:34:44] But seriously, that's pretty easy and we don't have anywhere to ask them with the current UI. [22:35:31] matt_flaschen: so "filtering" my user talk wiki text selectively - and put only templates(without informing me) as a Board description- hmm... [22:39:46] matt_flaschen, hmm, it's at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T110261 [22:40:16] * quiddity gets lunch, and fresh air. [22:40:37] quiddity, ah, so we specced it... [22:48:15] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 10VisualEditor, 7Performance: VE preview on Flow pages take too long (1min+) to load in debug mode - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118090#1794739 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T118090#1794350, @He7d3r wrote: > Well, how else can I find the source of bugs such as T110182... [23:03:38] Are we having pre-deployment meeting? [23:03:40] mooeypoo? [23:03:45] RoanKattouw_away is at an appointment? [23:06:07] matt_flaschen: oh I see that RoanKattouw_away ran out to the appointment [23:08:26] mooeypoo: https://doc.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/js/#!/api/mw.language-method-convertNumber [23:19:56] LOL at duploktm [23:24:59] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Investigate echo_notification identical timestamps (notification_timestamp and notification_read_timestamp) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118220#1794836 (10Etonkovidova) 3NEW a:3Legoktm [23:26:59] matt_flaschen, sorry, I am holding RoanKattouw_away here ... he canceled that meeting, said he emailed [23:27:41] mooeypoo, yeah, etonkovidova told me after I already made the lists, so we held it anyway. [23:27:45] *mutiny is afoot* [23:28:52] matt_flaschen: since we are entirely self-managed team, we can do it :) [23:31:09] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Investigate echo_notification identical timestamps (notification_timestamp and notification_read_timestamp) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T118220#1794846 (10Etonkovidova) [23:54:49] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow, 7Tracking: Bots and Flow living in harmony (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107093#1794876 (10Quiddity) [23:54:50] 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Flow: Documentation for Flow bots usergroup - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T93250#1794874 (10Quiddity) 5Resolved>3Open a:5DannyH>3None