[19:07:02] This should go into the logs. [19:08:59] RoanKattouw_away, it's working (http://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/browser/index.php?display=%23wikimedia-collaboration). Can you change the topic to note it's publicly logged? It has to be done by a chanop. [19:09:37] Bah, how do I not have chanops here? [19:09:50] RoanKattouw_away: "/topic The Collaboration team is currently working on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow and https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Echo | Channel is publicly logged: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23wikimedia-collaboration/" [19:11:25] I forgot, people with voice can op themselves, but it's supposed to be done only temporarily. [19:11:40] matt_flaschen: No, you have to have +o to op yourself. [19:11:55] "9 matt_flaschen +ARVefiorst [modified 13w 5d 21h ago] ' [19:12:01] You're even +f. [19:12:02] RoanKattouw_away, James_F is the one who told me about it [19:12:08] James_F, oh, okay. [19:12:18] James_F, do you have that ticket you talked about regarding the Graph extension being broken? [19:12:39] mooeypoo: It's https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107976 [19:14:05] James_F, thanks! RoanKattouw_away ^^ [19:16:23] Yeah same one [19:16:32] Timo says it only affects edit preview [19:16:39] And Ori has already written a patch [19:22:04] RoanKattouw_away, oh, excellent [19:23:09] OK, awesome. [19:23:18] Performance team are excellent. [19:26:30] Breaking for lunch [19:27:27] matt_flaschen, lunch unbreak now! [19:27:33] :) [19:27:35] I mean, bon apetit [19:27:36] :) [19:32:05] mooeypoo: [12:28] ori ...which yurik just merged [19:35:29] (03CR) 10Ori.livneh: [C: 032] "I'll deploy" [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.26wmf17) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229768 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108145) (owner: 10Florianschmidtwelzow) [19:38:01] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Follow up ConfirmEdit change of SimpleCaptcha::getForm() [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.26wmf17) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229768 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108145) (owner: 10Florianschmidtwelzow) [19:39:27] (03CR) 10Florianschmidtwelzow: "Great, thanks!" [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.26wmf17) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229768 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108145) (owner: 10Florianschmidtwelzow) [20:08:37] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current, 10MediaWiki-extensions-ConfirmEdit-(CAPTCHA-extension), and 3 others: Flow CAPTCHA integration broken - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108145#1515783 (10ori) 5Open>3Resolved [20:13:09] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Flow loading overlay does not disappear after load - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107596#1515815 (10Ckoerner) Ah, yes. That might be helpful. Here's what I'm seeing at the moment. {F648990} [20:20:48] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current, 10VisualEditor: F8. Run LQT conversion script on mediawiki.org VE/Feedback - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106613#1515904 (10Jdforrester-WMF) [20:57:02] (03PS3) 10Mooeypoo: Create a new topic widget [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229614 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107915) [20:58:51] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Create a new topic widget [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229614 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107915) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [20:58:57] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current: Add width-expanding toggle on Topic pages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103584#1516022 (10Mooeypoo) a:3Mooeypoo [21:00:56] 10Echo, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Surface new notifications in a way alerts and messages can be anticipated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108190#1516027 (10DannyH) I thought that we would separate the panels, and have two dropdowns -- Alerts and Messages. I think that would help people understand the... [21:24:28] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-04_(1.26wmf17): Hyperlinks without title disappear in flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106684#1516112 (10TomerA) Please ignore my last comment. Bug is fixed. [21:24:38] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 5Patch-For-Review, 5WMF-deploy-2015-08-04_(1.26wmf17): Hyperlinks without title disappear in flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106684#1516113 (10TomerA) 5Open>3Resolved [21:48:03] jayvdb, meeting time today works for you, right? [21:50:28] 10Echo, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Surface new notifications in a way alerts and messages can be anticipated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108190#1516253 (10Quiddity) +1 to two separate panels/dropdowns. Otherwise editors still have to click twice, to see their new Flow messages, if they also have ale... [21:55:03] matt_flaschen: yes [21:55:32] jayvdb, cool, see you then, re-reviewing new topic now. Seems fine, just blocked on the other one. [22:05:25] (03PS1) 10Ori.livneh: Use correct wrapping for the JSON blob inline script [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.26wmf17) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229977 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107945) [22:05:31] (03CR) 10Ori.livneh: [C: 032] Use correct wrapping for the JSON blob inline script [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.26wmf17) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229977 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107945) (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [22:10:17] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Use correct wrapping for the JSON blob inline script [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.26wmf17) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229977 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107945) (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [22:10:36] (03CR) 10Ori.livneh: "recheck" [extensions/Flow] (wmf/1.26wmf17) - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229977 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107945) (owner: 10Ori.livneh) [22:15:06] 10Echo, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Surface new notifications in a way alerts and messages can be anticipated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108190#1516350 (10DannyH) Splitting Echo notifications further is out of scope for this ticket. Anything related to the "orange bar" notification is also out of sc... [22:15:29] 10Echo, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Surface new notifications in a way alerts and messages can be anticipated - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108190#1516353 (10DannyH) p:5Triage>3High [22:17:35] 10Echo, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current: Echo notifications should show the page name instead of [No page] if the page was deleted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52829#1516363 (10DannyH) [22:18:51] 10Echo, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Echo notifications should show the page name instead of [No page] if the page was deleted - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T52829#549275 (10DannyH) [22:21:32] 10Echo, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 7Crosswiki, 7Tracking: Echo: Support cross-wiki notifications (tracking) - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T67661#1516392 (10DannyH) p:5Low>3High [22:36:11] (03PS1) 10Legoktm: Add some type-hinting and doc fixes [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229991 [22:39:43] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Add some type-hinting and doc fixes [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229991 (owner: 10Legoktm) [22:42:03] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Add some type-hinting and doc fixes [extensions/Echo] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229991 (owner: 10Legoktm) [22:42:35] (03PS1) 10Mooeypoo: Allow for expanding/collapsing single topic view [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229996 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103584) [22:48:06] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Return replies for view-post? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108260#1516506 (10Mattflaschen) 3NEW [22:49:01] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Return replies for view-post? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108260#1516519 (10Mattflaschen) [22:49:22] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Return replies list for view-post? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108260#1516521 (10Mattflaschen) [22:49:51] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Return replies list for view-post? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108260#1516506 (10Mattflaschen) [22:52:45] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Change the location of Flow's timestamps within posts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108096#1516535 (10DannyH) I think this is a good idea; I'm happy to make this change if @Pginer-WMF agrees. [22:53:36] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: wikitext preview message overlapping with Switch to VisualEditor button - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108261#1516537 (10Quiddity) 3NEW [22:54:18] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Text wrap issues in board description - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108262#1516548 (10Quiddity) 3NEW [22:58:30] RoanKattouw, another thing we might want to discuss at the skunkworks meeting: subprojects (E.g. Flow-Workflows). [22:58:36] Right, yes [22:58:45] Also dependencies on other teams (e.g. VE/Parsoid bugs) [22:58:54] 10Echo, 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Create a Timer based reminder for workflows - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T88781#1516564 (10Mattflaschen) Perhaps it could use business days to avoid things happening on the weekend (though different cultures have different work days during the week). Is th... [22:59:07] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Reduce title font size and footprint of topic header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108263#1516567 (10DannyH) 3NEW [22:59:18] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Reduce title font size and footprint of topic header - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108263#1516575 (10DannyH) a:3Pginer-WMF [23:00:07] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Change the location of Flow's timestamps within posts - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108096#1516578 (10DannyH) p:5Normal>3High a:3Pginer-WMF [23:01:59] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Collapsed topic header: Make it easier to tell that it can be clicked and uncollapsed - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108264#1516589 (10DannyH) 3NEW a:3Pginer-WMF [23:08:23] Can someone look at https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/228437/ before it gets stale? [23:10:56] I will [23:12:05] (03CR) 10Catrope: [C: 032] Standardize modified/updated terminology. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/228437 (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [23:14:05] tropicalkitty, yeah, Flow is in a bunch of places (e.g. a namespace on Catalan Wikipedia, various places elsewhere), but MediaWiki.org is one of the biggest (if not the biggest) rollout so far. [23:14:20] ok [23:15:14] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: Standardize modified/updated terminology. [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/228437 (owner: 10Mattflaschen) [23:15:46] do I have to be a dev or something? [23:16:30] tropicalkitty, nope. [23:16:42] Just ask dannyh. [23:20:52] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current: Guided tour for Flow opt-in on user talk for first visit to new page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108266#1516670 (10DannyH) 3NEW [23:21:36] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current: Opt-in: guided tour on user talk for first visit to new Flow board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108266#1516684 (10DannyH) [23:22:20] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current: Opt-in: guided tour on user talk for first visit to new Flow board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108266#1516670 (10DannyH) [23:22:20] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current: Opt-in for Flow on your own user talk page - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T98270#1516691 (10DannyH) [23:22:37] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current: Opt-in: Guided tour on user talk for first visit to new Flow board - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108266#1516670 (10DannyH) [23:23:08] matt_flaschen, tropicalkitty: There's a requests page that quiddity set up somewhere where you can add a request for your user talk page to be converted to Flow [23:23:15] are the various Wikimedia newsletter subscriptions going to be a problem? [23:23:47] tropicalkitty, if they use MassMessage they should work. [23:24:32] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Flow's Action menu rows are not clickable, only the text within is clickable - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108267#1516696 (10Quiddity) 3NEW [23:25:13] Okay, I just set up tropicalkitty's page on Mediawiki :) [23:25:27] (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: "> A first change, table separation must be code-aware" [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/226544 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106363) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [23:26:05] (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: "> As long as the old clusters config still exists ($wgExternalServers), all existing data can still be read." [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/226544 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106363) (owner: 10Matthias Mullie) [23:26:17] tropicalkitty, for usertalkpages, please add your name to the list at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Flow/Request_Flow_on_a_page [23:26:44] tropicalkitty, for newsletters, anything handled by MassMessage will work correctly. Other bots are a work-in-progress. [23:27:03] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog: Board description is not sufficiently visually distinguished from the buttons that let you edit it - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T102014#1516709 (10DannyH) Good point -- @Pginer-WMF, I think this is worth another look. [23:27:14] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Schema-change: Separate reference tables by wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107204#1516710 (10Mattflaschen) [23:28:02] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Schema-change: Separate reference tables by wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107204#1489595 (10Mattflaschen) [23:29:31] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current, 5Patch-For-Review, 7Schema-change: Separate reference tables by wiki - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107204#1516723 (10Mattflaschen) [23:30:38] (03PS2) 10Mooeypoo: Allow for expanding/collapsing single topic view [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/229996 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T103584) [23:31:41] (03PS27) 10Mooeypoo: Output the board description as an ooui widget [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/216038 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101278) [23:31:48] (03PS28) 10Mooeypoo: [WIP] BoardDescriptionWidget.js [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219208 [23:32:24] (03PS29) 10Mooeypoo: Create an OOUI widget for board description [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219208 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101278) [23:33:36] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Output the board description as an ooui widget [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/216038 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101278) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [23:34:42] (03CR) 10jenkins-bot: [V: 04-1] Create an OOUI widget for board description [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/219208 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T101278) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [23:34:47] quiddity OK thank you [23:36:48] thanks all! [23:42:43] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 5Patch-For-Review: Migrate Flow content to new separate logical External Store - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106363#1516757 (10Mattflaschen) [23:45:07] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team Backlog, 6operations: Setup separate logical External Store for Flow - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T107610#1516765 (10Mattflaschen) >>! In T107610#1506876, @jcrespo wrote: > My suggestion is to separate it logically, but not physically for 2 reasons: I think this should be... [23:48:28] 10Echo, 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog: Overlapping messages in the notifications flyout in non-English languages - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T108270#1516774 (10Quiddity) 3NEW [23:49:24] 10Echo, 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog: "You have new messages" stuck after all messages are 'Mark as read' - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106033#1516782 (10Quiddity) Users very much appreciate the extra-loud notice (orange bar) for new messages on their own usertalkpages. Please do not change tha... [23:55:10] (03PS1) 10Mooeypoo: 'About this board' instead of 'About this discussion' [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230012 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104775) [23:55:15] 10Flow, 6Collaboration-Team-Backlog, 10Collaboration-Team-Current, 5Patch-For-Review: Change "About this discussion" in side rail to "About this board" - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104775#1516799 (10Mooeypoo) a:3Mooeypoo [23:57:09] (03PS3) 10Mattflaschen: Add pre-commit hook script [extensions/Thanks] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/207286 (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [23:57:43] (03CR) 10Mattflaschen: [C: 032] 'About this board' instead of 'About this discussion' [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230012 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104775) (owner: 10Mooeypoo) [23:59:53] (03Merged) 10jenkins-bot: 'About this board' instead of 'About this discussion' [extensions/Flow] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/230012 (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T104775) (owner: 10Mooeypoo)