[01:39:10] <sparr>	 I'm giving up for the evening, I can't figure out how to get the tree output format to work
[05:55:18] <robolobster>	 Hi. Do you know of any private wiki hosting websites that have Semantic MediaWiki?
[05:55:27] <robolobster>	 If so, please let me know?
[05:55:54] <robolobster>	 That was meant to be an exclamation mark, not a question mark :)
[08:06:28] <Nikerabbit>	 robolobster: what do you mean with private?
[08:09:30] <robolobster>	 Hi Nikerabbit, I mean a hosted wiki only I and my team can access
[08:09:40] <robolobster>	 Or I personally can access. Like Google Drive
[08:11:59] <robolobster>	 Nikerabbit, I basically want to have an open source version of Personal Brain from TheBrain.com
[08:12:13] <Nikerabbit>	 robolobster: but you don't want to setup the wiki yourself, right?
[08:12:25] <robolobster>	 Nikerabbit I'd be happy to do the setup myself
[08:12:45] <Nikerabbit>	 but you don't want to pay for hosting?
[08:12:47] <robolobster>	 As long as it's free hosting
[08:12:52] <Nikerabbit>	 right
[08:12:58] <robolobster>	 Yes. I have no idea how reasonable that is
[08:13:03] <robolobster>	 or isn't
[08:14:14] <robolobster>	 But there are free wiki hosting sites, and free source hosting sites like bitbucket. So I figure that it's not impossible that there exists a private, free host for wikis supporting Semantic Mediawiki
[08:14:47] <robolobster>	 alternatively Nikerabbit, I might just host it on my laptop if I understand if doing so might affect my battery life and security
[08:14:48] <Nikerabbit>	 it's not impossible indeed, though I don't know any offhand
[08:15:00] <robolobster>	 Thanks for replying though Nikerabbit
[08:15:24] <robolobster>	 Should I worry about battery life and security if I install apache, mysql, etc on my laptop?
[08:16:53] <Nikerabbit>	 robolobster: battery life should be okay, of course there is some impact; security is also okay if you configure them to only listen on localhost
[08:17:16] <robolobster>	 Thanks for the info
[08:17:27] <robolobster>	 One more thing, will I be able to sync with Google Drive? to keep a backup
[08:17:45] <robolobster>	 I mean sync the entire mediawiki folder
[08:18:10] <Nikerabbit>	 the database is more important than mediawiki folder
[08:18:28] <Nikerabbit>	 and unless you use sqlite where you can define where the database is, it is going to be in different place
[08:19:07] <robolobster>	 Hmm so would it be possible for me to automatically backup my wiki's contents with something like Google Drive?
[08:19:58] <Nikerabbit>	 robolobster: it's possible
[08:20:20] <robolobster>	 It wouldn't mess the database up like it did with PersonalBrain?
[08:20:26] <robolobster>	 (Apologies for my lack of expertise)
[08:39:17] <Nemo_bis>	 robolobster: have you checked referata? is it for-pay when it's private?
[08:42:09] <robolobster>	 Thanks Nemo_bis ! I'll check it  out now.
[12:55:11] <robolobster>	 I vaguely recall an autocomplete feature for linking in the Semantic Mediawiki editor... can someone remind me how to enable that?
[16:37:02] <sparr>	 Can someone tell me why the middle query on this page doesn't produce any output? I expect to see a tree with some content: http://olywiki.asciiking.com/wiki/index.php/Sandbox
[16:45:15] <Yaron>	 sparr: it looks like the "parent=" parameter is case-sensitive on the first letter.
[16:45:47] <sparr>	 oh no
[16:45:52] <sparr>	 http 500 errors
[16:46:21] <sparr>	 if I change "used" to "Used" then I get an http 500
[16:46:24] <sparr>	 can't save, can't preview
[16:53:20] <Yaron>	 That's... strange.
[16:59:37] <sparr>	 and by "http 500 errors" I mean "entirely blank page", since the wiki is configured not to tell users about internal server errors
[17:04:44] <sparr>	 [Tue Feb 11 16:47:27 2014] [error] [client 146.115.36.254] PHP Catchable fatal error:  Argument 2 passed to SRFTree::printElement() must be an instance of SRFTreeElement, instance of stdClass given, called in /home/olywiki/public_html/wiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/formats/tree/SRF_Tree.php on line 156 and defined in /home/olywiki/public_html/wiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/formats/tr
[17:05:01] <sparr>	 defined in /home/olywiki/public_html/wiki/extensions/SemanticResultFormats/formats/tree/SRF_Tree.php on line 162, referer: http://olywiki.asciiking.com/wiki/index.php?title=Sandbox&action=edit
[17:05:26] <sparr>	 I am suspecting that SRFTree doesn't like subobjects
[19:03:37] <sven^>	 is there any "good" way to make #ask give you no results if one of the parameters is empty?
[19:04:26] <sven^>	 #ask: .... [[Foo:{{{SomeFieldOnThatPage}}}]]
[19:04:49] <sven^>	 if that field is empty, I just get every page as a result
[19:17:19] <Yaron>	 sven^: you might need to put an #if around the #ask.
[19:35:33] <Saruman>	 sven^: you can put a default in that field that is guaranteed to not get hits
[19:35:50] <Saruman>	 {{#ask: .... [[Foo:{{{SomeFieldOnThatPage|ImpossibleDefault}}}]]}}
[19:36:53] <grrrit-wm>	 (PS1) Yaron Koren: New version: 2.7 [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112754
[19:37:17] <Yaron>	 Oh yeah, that would work too.
[19:40:39] <grrrit-wm>	 (CR) Yaron Koren: [C: 2 V: 1] New version: 2.7 [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112754 (owner: Yaron Koren)
[19:40:41] <grrrit-wm>	 (Merged) jenkins-bot: New version: 2.7 [extensions/SemanticForms] - https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/112754 (owner: Yaron Koren)
[20:00:00] <sven^>	 Saruman: that sounds like a workaround... I am considering it
[20:00:50] <sven^>	 Yaron: yeah, thought about that, but it'll just make the syntax a bit more ugly. Since I am maintaining the templates in php I am happy about each little simplification
[20:01:51] <sven^>	 thanks guys