[00:20:05] <SamanthaNguyen>	 ashley: https://phabricator.shoutwiki.com/T114#2363
[00:21:05] <ashley>	 EasyTimeline is -- AFAIK -- unmaintained but not deprecated
[00:21:15] <ashley>	 (also the name EasyTimeline is soooooooo misleading)
[00:22:13] <SamanthaNguyen>	 ah idk, just posted since i thought it might be useful
[00:22:17] <SamanthaNguyen>	 maybe you could ask hashar about it?
[00:22:34] <SamanthaNguyen>	 also really? I haven't tried using EasyTimeline before
[00:23:56] <ashley>	 HardTimeline or SlightlyEasierToUseTimelineThanManuallyDoingItYourselfInPloticus would be more appropriate IMHO :p
[00:24:14] <SamanthaNguyen>	 lmao
[00:24:30] <SamanthaNguyen>	 I'll install it on my test wiki and mess around with it
[00:25:45] <ashley>	 good luck!
[00:26:46] <ashley>	 (EasyTimeline is literally a MediaWiki extension (written in PHP) to a Perl script which passes output into Ploticus and generates the desired image based on the data. said perl script was written like in 2003 or 2004 and hasn't been maintained that much since that.)
[00:27:23] <SamanthaNguyen>	 ew
[00:27:32] <ashley>	 that came out somewhat awkward nevertheless. anyway, EasyTimeline is not pretty nor easy to use and were it written today, there's no chance it'd hit WMF prod servers anytime soon, if ever
[00:27:54] <ashley>	 but it has been there for literally over a decade so people are used to it so undeploying it isn't as easy as it should be
[00:28:36] <SamanthaNguyen>	 surely a timeline could be autogenerated with say, d3.js or using an html5 canvas
[00:29:21] <ashley>	 mhm
[00:29:29] <ashley>	 but those didn't exist back in 2004 :p
[00:29:37] <SamanthaNguyen>	 of course :P
[00:34:08] <ashley>	 here's an example page which uses EasyTimeline (and is bugged): http://fi.starwars.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Naboon_monarkki#Aikajana_tunnetuista_hallitsijoista
[00:35:29] <SamanthaNguyen>	 oof
[00:35:33] <SamanthaNguyen>	 doesn't look very nice
[00:35:53] <SamanthaNguyen>	 the colors looks like an accessibility issue as well
[00:39:10] <SamanthaNguyen>	 found a neat gem https://github.com/NUKnightLab/TimelineJS3
[00:52:10] <SamanthaNguyen>	 hmm ashley, do you know who hands is? before georgebarnick re-set the topic, it used to say the topic was set by hands
[01:00:05] <SamanthaNguyen>	 not really important, just wondering :P if you don't know though that's fine
[01:40:57] <ashley>	 no idea, sorry
[01:44:07] <SamanthaNguyen>	 ah that's OK
[01:44:45] <SamanthaNguyen>	 still scratching my head on the picture game upload special page..for some reason it seems to require a specified magic number height while the quiz game doesn't
[01:45:17] <SamanthaNguyen>	 Like I mentioned earlier, I could just slap on a height, but I want to figure out the why; why it's happening
[01:46:30] <ashley>	 you're like me, for better or for worse ;-) sometimes that leads to understanding how things work and learning something...sometimes it leads to an epic headache :P
[01:47:22] <SamanthaNguyen>	 haha :P
[02:18:05] <SamanthaNguyen>	 ashley: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T59772#2942092
[02:18:51] <ashley>	 commented
[02:20:55] <SamanthaNguyen>	 thanks, just closed it
[02:24:42] <SamanthaNguyen>	 hey seaside o/
[02:24:48] <seaside98>	 Hey! o/
[02:25:47] <SamanthaNguyen>	 ashley: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T37120#2942099 (if you want to comment on it)
[16:29:03] <SamanthaNguyen>	 ashley: hey o/ sorry for suddenly leaving last night, there was a storm going on
[16:29:09] <SamanthaNguyen>	 how are ya? :P
[16:41:44] <SamanthaNguyen>	 oops sorry, had te restart
[16:41:49] <SamanthaNguyen>	 !logs
[16:41:50] <wm-bot2>	 Channel logs available at http://wm-bot.wmflabs.org/browser/index.php?display=%23brickimedia
[17:27:21] <SamanthaNguyen>	 !help
[17:27:44] <SamanthaNguyen>	 !commands
[17:28:24] <SamanthaNguyen>	 @config
[17:29:21] <SamanthaNguyen>	 hmm, oh well
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[20:45:21] <ashley>	 hey SamanthaNguyen, sup? :)
[20:46:53] <SamanthaNguyen>	 hey! :) just doing the same stuff as usual, really :P
[20:46:59] <SamanthaNguyen>	 how are you? :D
[20:50:58] <ashley>	 been busy, then slept for a while and woke up not that many minutes ago :P
[20:52:50] <SamanthaNguyen>	 haha :P today i woke up at 7, slept again, woke up at 8 did some stuff and decided i needed an extra nap, then woke up at 10 :P
[21:00:57] <ashley>	 tomorrow I have to wake up at 10AM :/ I'm not used to that! (the best thing about not being in elementary/middle/high school is that uni's so irregular and classes are very rarely at 8AM, so you don't need to wake up at an ungodly hour in general :P)
[21:01:48] <SamanthaNguyen>	 ah, that sounds so much better than having to wake up at 5-6 am :P
[21:04:01] <ashley>	 too many years I woke up at 6 or 7AM...I'd say "never again" but if I ever get a job (or rather, the job I want) it'll mean waking up at such hours once again >.<
[21:05:57] <SamanthaNguyen>	 such is reality unfortunately
[21:09:19] <ashley>	 or at least conventional jobs, that's for sure
[21:12:25] <SamanthaNguyen>	 yep yep
[21:12:41] <SamanthaNguyen>	 it'll be a while before I get a job as well (of course, since I'm still 16.. :P )
[21:18:11] <ashley>	 getting a job is easy; now getting one that pays (enough) on the other hand... >.>
[21:23:38] <SamanthaNguyen>	 un/fortunately i haven't experienced that yet, still got some years to go!
[21:57:42] <SamanthaNguyen>	  ashley: hmm, have you asked anyone about whether or not HTMLForm class is being deprecated yet?a
[22:00:24] <ashley>	 I haven't; thanks for the reminder, I'll go ask now :)
[22:01:29] <SamanthaNguyen>	 alright :) I hope my memory is false, because HTMLForm is used almost everywhere
[22:01:36] <SamanthaNguyen>	 (it's also quite useful!)