[20:29:00] RhinosF1: Good evening! [20:38:42] hi [20:41:08] Ah, how are you? [20:43:16] Good [20:46:33] Ah, what was your day like today? [20:49:55] Busy [20:51:44] Ah, with? [20:52:41] Everything [20:53:49] Ah, like? :) [20:53:54] I'd love to hear about it and see! [20:54:29] Everything could mean you landed on the moon 5 hours ago, or traveled via camel across the Serengeti, or the marine expeditions in every coastal ocean, studying sharks! [20:54:30] :) [21:00:05] Wikimedia, schoolwork, grandads [21:01:57] Ah, I see, you visited grandads? [21:01:59] Interesting :) [21:02:10] How was that? Something fun? [21:04:18] No, dealing with him breaking his pc [21:06:48] Ah, I see, how so? [21:07:06] I've also experienced that though, technical help and all :D [21:09:29] He wiped his pc for some reason [21:10:52] Oh, how? Like he damaged it? [21:11:00] Aaaahhhh, data wise then! [21:11:05] XD [21:11:37] No deliberately trying to fix something [21:11:43] Completely unneeded [21:12:41] It sounds like hes only done the application only reset [21:12:49] Oh [21:12:51] But he lost lots of license keys [21:13:06] so wasted money & time [21:13:23] :O [21:13:33] Computer license keys? [21:13:48] Is it resolvable then? [21:14:14] Yes and no in that order [21:14:30] It’ll cost at least £30 [21:14:34] Ooooh, wow! [21:14:38] And so what now? [21:14:45] He’s already spent nearly £200 on breaking things before [21:14:56] He’ll have to pay [21:15:09] :O [21:15:19] Wow, and what good is that computer to him? Hahaha [21:15:45] 30 pounds isn't a lot though, only 36 US dollars here, not too different [21:21:16] Not much good [21:21:28] Oh [21:21:44] So the plan is he'll pay the 30 pounds? [21:21:56] He’ll have to [21:21:59] I'm guessing he's likely retired no perhaps looking for affordable options [21:22:00] Oooh! [21:22:20] I don’t have any freebies I can sneak for him this time [21:22:24] What subjects were the homework? [21:22:38] Just maths today to do [21:23:03] Ah, yes! [21:23:20] And tomorrow's plans? [21:24:51] Make sure everything is submitted, deal with a few personal things, tidy up wikimedia phabricator [21:25:03] Ah, yes! [21:25:16] May I ask what the personal things are? Ah, self-confessed nosy, yes, I know! :) [21:25:23] Hoping not something serious though, hahaha! :) [21:26:26] StormyWaves: just make sure a friend is okay, speak to one i haven’t since lockdown [21:27:28] Ah, yes! [21:27:30] :) [21:28:34] By make sure a friend is okay, I know the answer already. It’s more making sure they know we look out for them and we have the latest info to support them best. [21:35:55] I see [21:36:06] How far is the person? [21:36:21] Close or far? [21:38:29] StormyWaves: not too far but we’re still in lockdown [21:39:42] Ah, yes, so you will still visit though, as you mentioned? [21:40:01] StormyWaves: only text, i said [21:40:12] meant* [21:40:26] everything remote now [21:40:37] Oh, I see [21:40:49] A friend from school, I imagine? [21:40:55] Ye [21:41:27] Ah [21:45:47] StormyWaves: This friend is not in a good place [21:46:30] Oooooh, health? [21:46:31] :O [21:47:15] StormyWaves: mental with physcial impacts [21:48:21] :O [21:48:25] Something highly serious then? [21:48:31] How serious? [21:49:33] StormyWaves: he's pretty high risk. To be truly honest, he's pretty close to breaking in the opinion of me and some friends. We don't think he can sustain things much longer without intervention. [21:49:52] :O [21:49:57] Alcohol or drugs? [21:50:25] Hell, I'd intervene with you guys myself if I was there, if it's that serious [21:51:22] Mental Health issues [21:51:36] :O I see [21:51:43] Anxiety mainly but it's had a big physical impact [21:51:45] Hmm, self-endangering too then? [21:51:49] Ooooh, I see [21:52:07] He lives with family or no? [21:52:39] I'd be there along if it wasn't a flight takes 15 hours XD [21:54:06] He lives with family [21:54:30] He doesn't deliberately self endanger but he doesn't see the long term impact of things [21:54:36] Ah, but I'd imagine it's still tense, oooh [21:55:03] StormyWaves: you sound like Zppix. Zppix has said they would be on long flights to help people before. [21:55:18] it's nerve wracking and fustrating at times [21:55:26] but I am very calm with him [21:56:04] Ah, interesting, yes, I would be too [21:56:21] you've got to be [21:56:26] Yes [21:56:31] It takes skill to do it well [21:56:56] I agree [21:57:02] How long have you known him? [21:57:10] School as in secondary or before? [21:57:23] As sometimes, you have to be extremely careful in how you word things to make sure you get the best outcome. I've known him quite a few years. [21:57:59] Ah [21:58:33] And it's not enough that he's occupied with things, as it only temporarily hides it, I'd imagine? [21:59:17] StormyWaves: occupying himself doesn't really last long. He tires very easily because he doesn't sleep properly because of it [21:59:26] Yes [21:59:28] Hmm, serious [21:59:47] Tires easily? Hmm, I have to imagine mental development is a concern too then [22:00:13] Sleep is one thing, but still, hmm [22:00:21] StormyWaves: when you have an average school attendance around 70% like him, it makes things a lot harder. [22:01:19] Oooh, I see [22:01:39] Hmm, and has the school intervened? [22:01:48] StormyWaves: in a very crap way [22:02:38] Oh, I see, surprising, hmm [22:02:45] What are the measures they took? [22:03:08] StormyWaves: attendance monitoring and a bit of extra time in exams [22:03:45] Oh, yes [22:03:55] Attendance Monitoring is the most stupid system anyway as they don't act to improve things and yes they've been asked to. [22:04:00] I see [22:04:20] He's asked multiple times for things and they don't act [22:04:39] There's no intervention counselling there? [22:04:44] What are the things? [22:05:01] StormyWaves: not that's ever turned up. [22:05:47] He's asked for a more balanced school timetable, he's asked for counselling/therapy, he's been to his GP to get support [22:06:18] Oh [22:06:30] And why have they refused if it's clearly shown he needs it? [22:07:03] That's surely when the school board has to be notified and why this isn't happening sooner [22:07:18] StormyWaves: they are lazy to put it plainly, they could but the school don't have to and his GP can get away with doing the minimum possible. [22:07:32] Oh [22:07:37] Hmm, sad [22:07:55] Is the family not concerned enough to contact any necessary agencies? [22:08:04] The school have been in court once over another student they didn't act soon enough with. Let's just hope this ends a better way [22:08:12] Ooooh, I see [22:08:16] What happened with the other student? [22:08:17] StormyWaves: GP + School they've told but they don't act [22:08:22] StormyWaves: suicide [22:08:35] Ooooooh! [22:08:42] I see, damn, that's hard [22:08:45] How long was that? [22:09:02] And what happened with the court case? You'd think that would shake some sense somewhere down the bones [22:09:29] I'm imagining the previous student was the same story though [22:09:32] StormyWaves: a few years back and the coroner picked some very clear words. [22:09:45] Oooh! [22:10:41] Hmm, so how's this looking in say, the near future's time? [22:11:03] In the near future, extremely challenging [22:11:04] I know it closely myself, I knew a student several years ago down in South England, and the school board took it quite seriously though [22:11:05] Oh [22:11:28] And because there are, like here, special schools too [22:12:00] Sadly, I myself am part of several groups at Facebook, and there was also 1 instance recently of someone who clearly needed to be offline and seek help, but hmm, clearly the health system is different in their area [22:13:57] StormyWaves: our health system varies [22:14:35] Yes [22:14:46] In this second one's case though, he was in Hungary, far from UK [22:15:17] ah [22:15:24] The UK are not that good [22:15:41] Worse here in the US, as we have better resources but still higher cases [22:15:54] Oooh, I recall hearing about it before, hmm [22:16:28] And you personally knew the previous student or he wasn't at your school? [22:18:55] They were at the same school but didn't know of them [22:46:17] Good night then [22:46:38] * RhinosF1 has SWAT window today in 15 mins