[22:18:46] <wikibugs>	 (03Draft1) 10Paladox: Rename puppet-paladox3 to puppet-paladox [labs/icinga2] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/397644
[22:18:48] <wikibugs>	 (03PS2) 10Paladox: Rename puppet-paladox3 to puppet-paladox [labs/icinga2] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/397644
[22:18:56] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: [C: 04-2] "To be done after the recreation." [labs/icinga2] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/397644 (owner: 10Paladox)
[22:23:21] <wikibugs>	 (03CR) 10Paladox: [V: 032 C: 032] Rename puppet-paladox3 to puppet-paladox [labs/icinga2] - 10https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/397644 (owner: 10Paladox)
[22:45:12] <Zppix>	 drewmutt: how are you
[22:45:25] <drewmutt>	 Good man! Forgot this channel was still around :)
[22:46:05] <Zppix>	 Im not going to look in at -en anytime soon
[22:46:13] <Zppix>	 I would but yeah
[22:46:17] <Zppix>	 I have followers
[22:46:23] <drewmutt>	 You gunna miss all the keks.
[22:47:08] <Zppix>	 Blame c drewmutt
[22:47:34] <Zppix>	 He makes it impossible for me to have fun anymore on irc
[22:47:42] <drewmutt>	 Meh, people have bad days, months, or even years.
[22:49:26] <Zppix>	 I just hope we get new GCs
[22:49:39] <Zppix>	 All new
[22:50:10] <drewmutt>	 You propose they should be elected?
[22:51:01] <Zppix>	 I honestly could care less how it happens just im fed up with the gcs taking their personal problems and using their power on irc and such to force their side of things
[22:51:25] <Zppix>	 Or atleast have the diginty to say something privately
[22:51:37] <Zppix>	 Not yell at someone openly in -en or #freenode
[22:51:51] <Zppix>	 (And yes C yelled at me in #freenode)
[22:52:45] <Zppix>	 I used to love to chat on irc in public channels now i have to worry about if that message will get me globally banned from wikimedia channels.
[22:53:03] <Zppix>	 It just ruins it
[22:53:14] <Zppix>	 Its just like onwiki
[22:53:33] <drewmutt>	 Well, I'm not sure of the history there, sure there's two sides.
[22:54:16] <Zppix>	 No none of the other group contacts have acted towards me this way, only c.
[22:54:40] <Zppix>	 C's issue is purely personal towards me
[22:55:30] <drewmutt>	 Maybe you should ask him why.
[23:02:45] <Zppix>	 Idk
[23:02:55] <Zppix>	 Hell probably just ban me or something
[23:04:52] <Zppix>	 Drewmutt
[23:08:45] <drewmutt>	 If your civil and ask him in private, I can't imagine him doing that.
[23:11:47] <Zppix>	 He yelled at me for telling him thanks!
[23:12:01] <Zppix>	 I mean... tf
[23:12:19] <drewmutt>	 I'm sure there's some history there. He seems a reasonable guy.
[23:13:04] <Zppix>	 Thats what people say about kudpung, and look at what he does
[23:13:35] <drewmutt>	 Heh, it's funny I read that in a much different way than you probably meant it.
[23:13:55] <Zppix>	 Im sick and tired of group contacts thinking their powers are a free ride to do whatever the hell they want
[23:14:32] <Zppix>	 They act in their own interest and not the communities
[23:15:04] <Zppix>	 C has gone to the point WHERE he wrote a script to stop me from pinging him!
[23:15:10] <Zppix>	 And then mocks me about it
[23:15:18] <drewmutt>	 Heh, gotta give him cred for that.
[23:15:24] <Zppix>	 No
[23:15:27] <drewmutt>	 If nothing else the inginuity.
[23:15:46] <drewmutt>	 Like I said, msg him, see what's up.
[23:15:48] <Zppix>	 The credit he gets is for being the reason i can never have fucking fun in wikimedia channels
[23:16:42] <Zppix>	 Hes the only person on IRC I cant stand
[23:16:59] <Zppix>	 And thats hard to achieve
[23:17:15] <drewmutt>	 Depdning on what you call fun, he might be in the right.
[23:17:28] <drewmutt>	 Not that I see you doing anything overtly bad, but I dunno.
[23:17:33] <Zppix>	 drewmutt: anything even remotely unprofessionally
[23:18:16] <Zppix>	 Ever notice why i changed the way i chatted in -en after my cloak was removed?
[23:18:21] <Zppix>	 Hes why
[23:18:50] <Zppix>	 Know why im hesitent to help in -help?
[23:18:53] <Zppix>	 Hes why
[23:19:11] <Zppix>	 Cause idk what msg will be my last
[23:19:49] <Zppix>	 The only place i feel able to be open is my own channel
[23:19:57] <Zppix>	 And thats just barely
[23:20:38] <Zppix>	 If you would of told me when i first joined irc this would end up happening id laugh in your face
[23:20:45] <Zppix>	 Now
[23:20:54] <Zppix>	 I wish i wouldve been told
[23:20:55] <drewmutt>	 I highly doubt he doing it simply spite you.
[23:21:38] <Zppix>	 Really? He sure felt the need to tell me that i should shut up in two different channels within 2 mins (one channel was #freenode where he has no power)
[23:22:19] <Zppix>	 Im going to talk to probably freenode staff next and complain about c and see what they can do
[23:23:04] <Zppix>	 Otherwise i may just stop coming to wikimedia channels which sucks because i love the development community
[23:23:04] <drewmutt>	 Again, I don't know him that well, but there has to be reasons behind this, he's a smart dude.
[23:23:45] <Zppix>	 Maybe 1 year ago but now its just him being a petty asshole
[23:24:23] <drewmutt>	 I would wildly disagree with you.
[23:25:01] <Zppix>	 Why?
[23:26:20] <Zppix>	 drewmutt: you know nothing scares me, i yell at admins onwiki ffs, but the fact im scared to chat on Internet Relay CHAT must mean something
[23:27:07] <drewmutt>	 Zppix: If I'm honest, my guess is, he's involved with tech, and there seems to be a feeling of you overstepping your bounds in that area along with ops.
[23:27:33] <Zppix>	 Im overstepping my bounds?
[23:27:36] <Zppix>	 How?
[23:28:27] <drewmutt>	 I have no specific examples, I'm not all that involved in it, but just my read on it.
[23:30:46] <Zppix>	 I have a team leader for one of the tech teams that is willing after i make some more meaningful contribs to offically make me apart of the team, so if thats why then the tech community doesnt seem to mind my presence
[23:37:00] <drewmutt>	 Yeah, like I said, I'm sure a convo between you and him would give you a lot more info than just my observations.
[23:38:37] <Zppix>	 Im talking to a freenode staffer
[23:44:50] <Zppix>	 Fuckkk
[23:44:55] <Zppix>	 Hes untouchable
[23:45:03] <Zppix>	 God damn