[07:14:51] It would be awesome if folks just upfront explicitly said that they are going to share random hallucinated stuff [08:31:01] Krinkle: yes, {{done}} archived the gitlab paws repo [08:31:24] !log paws archive outdated https://gitlab.wikimedia.org/repos/cloud/paws in favor of github repo [08:31:26] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Paws/SAL [13:21:50] !log lucaswerkmeister@tools-bastion-15 tools.wd-image-positions deployed c3f6d784d6 (l10n updates: kea, wal) [13:21:51] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.wd-image-positions/SAL [13:22:21] !log lucaswerkmeister@tools-bastion-15 tools.lexeme-forms deployed f0983e0fcf (l10n updates: kea) [13:22:22] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.lexeme-forms/SAL [13:46:43] godog: thx! [15:56:52] @GergesShamon: as you may have figured out by now, chatbots are likely to give you a mix of real information and completely fabricated lies when asked how to perform complex actions in the Wikimedia and Toolforge environments. There are a lot of humans here who would like to help you, but few or none who want to reverse engineer your real question from paste of AI hallucination. [15:57:43] @GergesShamon: The official secrets management tool in Toolforge is https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Toolforge/Envvars [15:58:40] Blubber is a tool for building docker containers built by the WMF. There is no reasonable way today to use Blubber with Toolforge today. [16:01:17] Thanks @bd808 [16:01:21] `envFrom` is not a Blubber directive. It is instead an LLM lie created by the LLM mixing information about YAML documents used to configure Kubernetes and YAML documents used to configure Blubber into a pile of garbage. [16:21:54] bd808: it's basically a non-ironic version of https://thedoomthatcametopuppet.tumblr.com/ [16:22:48] Krinkle: The wikibugs posts for WMCS stuff go to #wikimedia-cloud-feed. We made that switch quite a while ago in an attempt to keep this channel less noisy for discussion. [16:25:43] dhinus: yeah. :/ I think this is the darkest pattern in LLM chatbot things. The tools are do no think so they cannot say "I do not know." as an answer. Instead the token search vector finds semi-random pools of content and selects from them without distinction or disclosure. [16:46:56] This was an older version but ChatGPT once hallucinated an entire C++ developer named Dennis Sprenkels. Very plausible name [17:52:28] Is anyone around who can help me with a infoleak security task? [17:53:27] the actual security issue has been fixed, but I'd like a second opinion. [17:55:25] chuckthebuck: if you want to involve Security you can open a security issue on phab using this form: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/maniphest/task/edit/form/75/ [17:56:10] it's been dealt with. (unfortunatly, the task was opened on my behalf regarding one of my tools, and i wanted a second opinion before resolving) [17:56:23] sure [17:56:31] (I’m the one who opened the task, right? ^^) [17:56:34] yep [17:56:38] * lucaswerkmeister waves [18:30:36] !log jeanfred@tools-bastion-15 tools.integraality Deploy 55f1132 (Switch to Python 3.11 as default interpreter) [18:30:39] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.integraality/SAL [18:32:26] !log jeanfred@tools-bastion-15 tools.integraality Recreated Python 3.11 virtual environment using 'toolforge webservice python3.11 shell' / 'webservice-python-bootstrap --fresh' / '/data/project/integraality/www/python/venv/bin/pip install -r /data/project/integraality/integraality/requirements.txt' [18:32:28] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Tools.integraality/SAL [21:38:22] !log extdist rm -rf /var/log/extdist T418469 T253588 [21:38:27] Logged the message at https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Nova_Resource:Extdist/SAL [21:38:28] T418469: latest Elastica release does not include Elastica\Client? - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T418469 [21:38:28] T253588: extdist is not rotating logs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253588 [21:47:37] Reedy: that probably could use a logrotate rule [21:47:53] taavi: just a bit [21:48:13] I don't quite believe it's lasted ~5 years since it last broke according to T253588 [21:48:13] T253588: extdist is not rotating logs - https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T253588 [21:49:54] Do we have a nice way to do it via puppet? [21:50:00] logrotate::rule? [21:59:08] would that be via heira in horizon these days? [22:01:31] no, something like https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/1249417 [22:02:10] I forgot we like to hide non production config in production puppet <3 [22:04:42] merged, I guess we'll see in a week if it worked [22:05:27] we've got a few years [22:06:00] a.ndre will yell at me if I leave the task open for that long