[08:43:42] greetings [09:14:36] morning [16:46:33] bd808: regarding that blubber refactor of wikitech-static-docker, is there an easy pitch for why I should prefer a blubber file over a docker file? [17:02:32] how do I find the "gid" to add a new project here? https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/g/operations/puppet/+/b8e126cbf9cb8cf9948e5fd89ffab79aadabbc76/modules/cloudnfs/data/projects.yaml [17:15:04] found the answer :) https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Portal:Data_Services/Admin/Runbooks/Enable_NFS_for_a_project#Find_out_the_GID_for_the_project [17:24:32] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/operations/puppet/+/1229159 [17:26:59] * dhinus off [17:46:27] andrewbogott: I'd say "Blubber exists so that it is harder to make bad Docker containers" would be my answer. It is not perfect and you can have legitimate reasons that Blubber's syntax limitations make it useless for a project. [17:47:01] it cleans up after the mess of using apt in a container as one example of how it is helpful [17:47:34] that's fair! I'll give your build a try and see if it fits on the workers. [17:48:30] it also enforces a build time/runtime user separation by default that is nice