[00:10:53] [1/2] mediawiki itself does its business almost exclusively in random special pages and expects you to read the docs and/or Special:SpecialPages to locate them, and the rest is hidden away in localsettings.php or even more obscure places - last bits are what managewiki bundles into a neat block, while the random pages are otherwise built in. The admin links extensi [00:10:53] [2/2] on unifies some things but is very incomplete imo. I've mulled about mocking up something more robust but I am totally incompetent on that level of tech [00:11:26] short of a better and perhaps enabled by default admin links extension thing, the next best bet might be a reference on meta or even a new introduction page listing notable useful ones [00:12:05] It's not so bad, I can bookmark pages in my browser, but yes it'd be helpful to have them all in one place. [00:12:31] otherwise in the end miraheze is providing a more or less stock mediawiki with some extensions enabled and some things preconfigured, but to truly unify the experience essentially changes mediawiki in core ways miraheze is not prepared to take on I think [00:13:42] the extension I mentioned, https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Admin_Links [00:15:00] will pin this, thanks! It's as it says. basically need a control panel [00:15:22] its extra neat because its literally always there in the interface once enabled [00:55:11] Like Fandom's AdminDashboard? [01:13:46] isn't there a user sidebar extension you can enable that let's you add links to your sidebar? that's what we use on our wiki and it's super useful [01:16:09] checked our settings and it's DynamicSidebar: [01:16:14] How can I remove hardcoded styles like `width=50` on the `img.mw-logo-icon` in the header? [01:17:17] append `!important` [01:18:03] if you mean width="50" and not style="width:50" that's not really a hardcoded style though [01:18:26] Hm for some reason I was misremembering that !important had a lesser specificity - ah yeah that's what I was thinking of [01:18:35] it is width=50 so that's fine you're right [01:19:04] [1/2] I'm not sure if it's tied to skin or that extension, but this page lets me add to the sidebar: [01:19:04] [2/2] https://threeskies.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Sidebar [01:19:18] oh yeah that's admin only [01:19:26] ah gotcha [01:19:27] and is a mediawiki feature [01:19:34] apologies [01:19:49] the extension i linked lets anyone create their own individual sidebar links viewable only by them [01:20:07] ohhh, sorry i misread. forgive me. being silly [01:20:10] no, it's fine! just thought I'd mention it since it's a nice extension, in case you didn't know it existed! [01:20:11] you should be able to set a width with CSS without requiring`!important` in that case [01:20:21] unless something else is taking precedence [01:45:39] Urgh... Does Common.css not affect the header bar or something? [01:46:10] Oh, no.. just taking its sweet time [01:47:57] https://shouldiblamecach.ing/ [02:11:26] Has anyone used Template:Column, and know how to change the styles.css so the columns are centred, rather than floating left? Removing the default float:left just stacks everything in one column, and trying `margin: auto`, `align-items`, `align-content` and such does the same [04:37:12] how much time does it take to get an account from the request account thing? because its been 5 days since i sent the request [04:40:42] [1/2] can anyone help me in placing this template in the space i outlined [04:40:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500718790575653085/image.png?ex=69f974c9&is=69f82349&hm=d450185e62ad24bba6b9a4f06bff755d4eac2d9fbcb701a719e0d27778e14602& [04:40:45] dont know why its doing that [04:40:55] https://itemasylum.miraheze.org/Template:Hitbox_Visualizer [05:13:45] well, you got
[07:04:04] [1/2] I was renaming a file when I suddenly encountered an error. [07:04:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500754869848510666/Screenshot_2026-05-04_14.02.40.png?ex=69f99663&is=69f844e3&hm=348741d7b9f14d1b6ce510216d90c5e7ecd90252dcf5d0171c8db3d4c6608036& [07:16:29] Try again [07:17:25] Done, Thank you [08:14:34] [1/2] its still happening? [08:14:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500772613881069588/image.png?ex=69f9a6ea&is=69f8556a&hm=87b7fa3462a2f8897b4f1b64cbcaaa962c761e8e6eb70359a7b0d203986fb13b& [08:31:17] just your wiki? [08:33:03] yeah that template [08:33:11] even when i removed and checked the edit preview [08:33:23] it, did not move the template into that space [08:33:39] i actually have no idea why clear is even there [08:34:00] i only have the one. [08:34:12] make a thing in #support [08:34:20] specify the amount of time its been happening [10:53:24] It's fixed now. Also hi guys this is my first message in this server! [11:02:57] [1/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500814988451774656/DSC_0431.jpg?ex=69f9ce61&is=69f87ce1&hm=16ffbb1218cda0dc4bec7ac2bd57b6ef17a68a254d89ad221daafd56a3031294& [11:02:58] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500814988900696084/PXL_20260407_014756_803.jpg?ex=69f9ce61&is=69f87ce1&hm=a29554e8b49c17013aa2e2f53a6127151d989495f78ed35a46f8d04fc73795a8& [11:02:58] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500814989399822417/IMG-20260421-WA4902.jpg?ex=69f9ce61&is=69f87ce1&hm=9fd8f850d370405cb570a65a54488fdb173606626e66197637e829db27e77682& [11:02:58] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500814990087815278/20260502_055833.jpg?ex=69f9ce61&is=69f87ce1&hm=9c4859b7c63b71883f95093dd2d8486640ae089ddd82bb15f55c6e7b818daaaf& [11:07:43] @Discord Moderators [11:13:51] mods r sleeping [11:14:49] @thewwrnerdguy do u have delete message perms [11:22:40] nope [11:22:47] oof sadge [11:23:55] I think it's configurable in managewiki [11:34:37] Hmmm [12:40:03] miraheze is ffffffffartting [12:40:14] and it isnt anymore [12:40:14] col [13:24:05] [1/2] ohhhh shβ€” [13:24:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500850508250873936/image.png?ex=69f9ef75&is=69f89df5&hm=db16b01bccb59d4231f9d2cf27948b532e3fa5aedb2f437f37f9eb53a4b3155c& [13:24:35] miraheze is truly ffffffffartting [13:25:11] guess some server maintenance is going on? [13:25:25] No, something is going wrong. [13:25:42] @blankeclair @pskyechology you guys available to look into this pretty plox? [13:26:27] playing repo rn [13:31:00] seems to have unshat itself [13:31:06] #priorities [13:32:32] ja [13:33:03] [1/2] is it possible to verify my a miraheze site on github? [13:33:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500852762806718647/image.png?ex=69f9f18f&is=69f8a00f&hm=9b51a517ba59221c40688bc5243f212f1d5036b9422db805a585fb2f6d4d5655& [13:34:11] pretty sure you should do it on cloudflare [13:34:23] [1/2] anybody knows what css classes i need to call in to restyle this piece? or at least a way to make it not go away as i move the cursor as i cant take a look in the browser console it just vanishes the moment i move the mouse to play with its styles in console [13:34:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500853098019553451/image.png?ex=69f9f1df&is=69f8a05f&hm=6eede4f8238a0e9534311a2bf5e458626d98a0e15eec99471e45bf1110cf4306& [13:35:18] Switch to the sources tab and look at the ⏸️-looking button [13:35:32] It will tell you what the keybind for triggering it is [13:36:04] ohhh thank you very much kind sir [13:37:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500853802524213319/image.png?ex=69f9f287&is=69f8a107&hm=dcb9c8584d693156c15610afc2e621287f7eeec80a1515c70db3ffcc576096e8& [13:40:50] has there been a perfect recreation of fandom's carousel gallery [13:42:45] https://shouldiuseacarousel.com/ [13:50:42] Not as far as I know, but it'd cool [13:51:35] i actually have friends irl now [13:51:37] (and a girlfriend) [13:52:03] yes which is why it's the right priority [13:52:19] true [13:53:00] -# Woah, we got moneybags over here... Friends AND gf? [13:54:29] Congrats! [13:55:20] thanks <3 [13:55:33] i pay $55,500/year for my tuition, i better make some friends 😭 [13:55:40] Lock in [13:55:47] but yeah, a month into uni, and now we're girlfriends <3 [13:55:52] looking in to moving in rn lol [13:56:58] I never made any friends, nor do I have a partner of either binary. Frankly, I'm pretty content, I personally don't think I can balance school and relationships at the same time. [13:57:17] its ok [13:57:33] I somehow balanced gf and full time and college [13:57:42] but sleep was a myth [13:57:48] -# I also get free tuition from federal aid so I'm also less stressed too. [13:58:22] fair, it's more like "oh shit, there's a queer lounge?" -> just chilling there -> getting close to someone -> now you're holding hands and lying in her lap and she asks you out [13:59:06] I live in a heavy conservative state, so unfortunately, I didn't find a cute boy. [13:59:28] alas πŸ˜” [13:59:42] i found 12 on a walk [13:59:58] -# And the men I see nowadays are just... sigh I don't wanna be rude but they just all have that... "thing" to them? [14:00:06] And I am a man... [14:00:50] hard to pinpoint what you're thinking about, especially since there are multiple ^^; [14:00:58] who knows, what about femboys- [14:01:23] Not, femboys, those are my preference. But I'm moreso of the "frat boy" thing. [14:01:30] ah, ouch [14:01:58] also where is the relay pulling these messages from [14:02:13] discord [14:02:30] oh cool [14:02:42] And I would love to see a femboy in my deep red area, they're 100x more barer than I would ever be being openly bi. [14:03:14] I’m glad my college has a lot of progressive people despite being a fairly conservative place but also I’m going to college at an older age than most πŸ˜“ [14:03:20] gang as much as i love the topic im gonna have to sweep you into #offtopic [14:03:42] Miraheze [14:04:05] i can't even see the off topic lol- [14:04:37] you gets to join #miraheze-offtopic [14:08:07] You control your own DNS for custom domains [15:07:17] With page forms, how can I edit the form for a page from the page itself (without going to the Special page directly)? [15:53:42] YEAH!!!! MIRAHEZE!!! πŸ—£οΈ [16:03:06] [1/2] how do you add module docs to a module [16:03:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500890522758414448/image.png?ex=69fa14b9&is=69f8c339&hm=2f9138e0962b1fde24449fb85a9f48e44e5806bac452fb735a3c35a75c5d84bc& [16:03:19] by docing the module idk [16:03:32] you write the docs that's kinda it [16:03:53] [1/2] my green box fucking EXPLODED!!!! [16:03:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500890721203392762/image.png?ex=69fa14e9&is=69f8c369&hm=590688cf08e34f081ed68236ed529265e8175e5789597863679b145b8bc94a6c& [16:04:15] `?uselang=qqx` on that thing [16:04:27] Thank you for making your presence known to the servers, otherwise it would've still been shat. [16:04:28] OK [16:04:38] [1/2] so uhm [16:04:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500890907569033318/image.png?ex=69fa1515&is=69f8c395&hm=5bfeb3efc6623891bdf48f0f09f057661a3a46cf1797797463dbcdeb7f0140fb& [16:04:52] i see nothing green [16:05:04] https://giphy.com/gifs/ninjago-wu-tsiggy-1VSRXV7rigl9HSINbf [16:05:13] my element of surprise is gone [16:05:31] wtf why does it look like that [16:05:40] does this have something to do with module:documentation/config or smth [16:06:01] [1/2] uh huh okay [16:06:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500891256476274698/image.png?ex=69fa1568&is=69f8c3e8&hm=edc080ab1034e0c986d458cc53df30ae331066e794457d35461dc75d936fc3b8& [16:06:02] anyway you could do [[mh: bucket:special:allmessages]] and filter by modified [16:06:03] [16:06:45] sorry what [16:06:50] oh [16:06:50] wait [16:07:10] so what do i look for [16:07:35] maybe it's just monday [16:07:41] but I don't really understand what's the issue 😭 [16:07:43] doc is sleeping [16:07:44] LOL [16:08:10] like i see the docs are working above? [16:08:15] no clue what im looking for LOL [16:08:30] filter by modified [16:08:38] i did [16:08:39] [1/2] green [16:08:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500891919818035401/image.png?ex=69fa1606&is=69f8c486&hm=f21bd691aa89f5e44ffda7f80748ef120ad6767b257253679179a5ba9f070f90& [16:09:03] you want the module documentation to have a green background? [16:09:13] That's separate from the template [16:09:14] no im showing you what it looks like LOL [16:09:30] @thewwrnerdguy i did filter by modified, what am i supposed to look in here [16:09:58] there are 4 messages that are modified on bucket wiki [16:10:12] copy the modifications that aren't common.css [16:10:15] [1/2] this fucking thing [16:10:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500892325151379456/image.png?ex=69fa1667&is=69f8c4e7&hm=f65150abe05d1d2f5aeffb587f9c0e115245cb95172ffc970dfa56f13b2a2de4& [16:10:21] things* [16:10:22] ok [16:10:26] oh that [16:10:41] i was hella confused LOL [16:10:46] thx [16:11:03] [1/2] WHY THE FUICK DID I DO THIS [16:11:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500892524393402371/image.png?ex=69fa1697&is=69f8c517&hm=872083d84c19ad246bfbc55006c13a71073f1221ce1fa9b9f2b6ddcdd48d3861& [16:11:07] ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? [16:11:48] LOL [16:12:18] [1/2] muchhhh better [16:12:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500892841189314720/image.png?ex=69fa16e2&is=69f8c562&hm=a5547f246f587a15a35e2ef09bc0a6d8fe6da391240889740d0a17ec1ea53e82& [16:12:20] thanks ! [16:12:50] oh that's the green box [16:13:17] i'm slow πŸ˜” [16:16:50] we're all slow [16:35:23] [1/2] CSS people: is there a way I can stop the search cut off on mobile/narrows creen view? (Vector) [16:35:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500898648224170025/image.png?ex=69fa1c4b&is=69f8cacb&hm=805b13a54944b95148644c9afc21675af30db42f279bd771a3e91167db09f619& [16:36:51] could you link the wiki [16:36:59] https://outlanders.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [16:37:41] I don't see what you have in your screenshot [16:37:51] when you make the page narrow? [16:38:34] Modern phones are not that narrow nowadays afaik [16:38:44] That said, there's an overflow of the rest of the header [16:38:56] thats true I suppose, but still [16:39:04] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500899576876634316/IMG_9069.png?ex=69fa1d28&is=69f8cba8&hm=eb610fa1ea23a7a248935f9430f035483fe3a8b30e4273bcd278db36075d0f89& [16:39:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500899577358975047/IMG_9070.png?ex=69fa1d28&is=69f8cba8&hm=14d7dca90b3275e58a6e867d88f223f4cfdf6c0c8abf97fe21fb2e65acae1a05& [16:39:32] hmmm [16:41:53] [1/2] So I'm using the infoboxes from dev wiki. Does anyone know how I could force the text to float on the left for a specific table/section? I want to make a bullet-point list in some infoboxes. [16:41:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500900282534723625/image.png?ex=69fa1dd0&is=69f8cc50&hm=3f3e762f11af192e38072d17b1fc14ea6864f7d1caa7e8ceec78ec4287f7c5fd& [16:44:36] Wdym you don't see it [16:47:14] probably that specific search overflow [16:47:21] I don't see it unless I go below 320px [17:00:34] Found out a pretty roundabout way to do it that involves inserting additional infoboxes. Not the prettiest solution but works if there is no alternative. [17:05:23] [1/2] This? [17:05:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500906196700233798/image.png?ex=69fa2352&is=69f8d1d2&hm=16be28064939fd3ea1ba4ab044551004227035c69c722b4bb8c4effd52e6ba13& [17:09:39] Yes! [17:09:49] [1/6] ``` [17:09:50] [2/6] | label2 = [17:09:50] [3/6] | rowcellstyle2 = text-align: left; [17:09:50] [4/6] | data2 = [17:09:51] [5/6] * Test``` [17:09:51] [6/6] For a specific row, or `datastyle` for the whole table [17:09:58] Ahhh [17:10:09] I keep trying labelstyle and datastyle [17:10:12] Thank you [17:25:57] [1/7] A multiple instance template according to [this](https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Forms/Defining_forms) cannot have a multiple instance template itself [17:25:58] [2/7] Does anyone then have any thoughts as to how I may model something like this: [17:25:58] [3/7] - Resource has recipe (mult template) [17:25:58] [4/7] - Recipe has components (mult template), building, quantity_produced [17:25:58] [5/7] - Component has resource + quantity_required [17:25:59] [6/7] With page forms? [17:25:59] [7/7] I suppose a free form text space for the component resource + quantity is possible where I specify in a description what the format should be if nothing else works but just thought I'd see if anyone has something like that themselves [18:16:07] is there any way to close all headers by default? [18:50:30] @darkfawfulguy64 thank you for removing the vandalism πŸ™ [18:51:07] No problem. I was basically doing some patrolling when I noticed what was going on when I checked it out. [19:32:33] Forgot to mention this: if you don't mind, could you add this as an example (template + js snippet) at the end of ? [19:40:01] <.labster> I have a Bucket based Calendar now: https://bucket.miraheze.org/wiki/Calendar [19:47:37] Mind if I fix the dark mode styles [19:50:41] <.labster> Go ahead. My styling always sucks. [19:56:21] <.labster> I'm a backend dev who makes UIs that look like a programmer designed them. [19:57:01] Same here [19:59:08] <.labster> I mean, why wouldn't you want all sorts of buttons on-screen, you might want to use one of them! [20:02:16] AWB developer? :kek: [20:10:03] is there a way to filter search [20:10:21] like pages in a category excluding pages in another category [20:16:47] That sounds like something DPL can do [20:18:42] nvm actually you can do this with CirrusSearch [20:19:08] `incategory:Cat_to_include -incategory:Cat_to_exclude` [20:19:48] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500955124275613856/file.png?ex=69fa50e4&is=69f8ff64&hm=5674e36b65b30a174d43dc0ee11aaa4745b1797870b12f79e29130f9ed96263d& [20:19:57] Does anyone have ideas for how I can make this better on mobile [20:20:07] notably the fact that it tries to put text next to the double-image [20:20:36] Like, can I specify that it should never put text next to something if it would leave < [some small amount of pixels] or something? [20:20:51] What's the page [20:21:04] https://wiki.blueovallabs.com/wiki/Wireless_Accessory_Charging_Module [20:21:19] I'm using {{Multiple image}} imported from the dev wiki [20:21:20] [20:24:16] I specifically don't want to make it display vertically on mobile when that isn't necessary (which happens if I try to bump up the target width), not to mention that's device-width-specific [20:25:45] When device width is smaller than 800px, unset `float: right`. [20:26:07] See https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_make_my_wiki_mobile-friendly#Media_queries [20:38:24] [1/9] https://wiki.blueovallabs.com/wiki/Template:Multiple_image/styles.css [20:38:25] [2/9] ended up adding [20:38:25] [3/9] ```css [20:38:25] [4/9] .thumb.tmulti { [20:38:26] [5/9] float: unset !important; [20:38:26] [6/9] margin: unset !important; [20:38:26] [7/9] } [20:38:26] [8/9] ``` [20:38:27] [9/9] Might want to consider fixing this properly in the Multiple image dev template at some point? [20:57:15] [1/2] What skins are mobile compatible? [20:57:16] [2/2] I'm at the point where I can start thinking about the mobile layout and found out that Timeless doesn't seem to like mobile too much. [20:58:42] citizen [20:59:03] Vector 2022 [20:59:09] minerva is also nice [20:59:12] Cosmos [20:59:43] Although probably avoid Cosmos if you want to implement a dark theme at some point [21:01:55] [1/2] Thank you! [21:01:55] [2/2] Also, I got JS for a custom dark mode toggle so I'm not too worried about that. Didn't like how the extension looked. [21:08:10] Also why the h--l is CSS and HTML so d--n annoying? [21:08:27] So much pain just to get a header so you had an idea where to click [21:08:56] we dont moderate swearing like that [21:09:23] otherwise I think I would not be so blue [21:09:43] Is there a way for one infobox to call the data listed in the parameter of another infobox? [21:13:17] Done, hopefully I didn't mess it up ') [21:18:54] See DM. [22:34:25] <.labster, replying to pskyechology> Can we moderate the guy who said "minerva is also nice" because that's far worse than cursing [22:39:10] As stated before, if swearing was banned I'm shit outta luck. [22:39:26] Swearing in funi [22:44:21] Figured out a solution of just having a single β€œdata” page in which multiple templates will source info from [22:51:38] Is there a Miraheze staff member I can speak to? My wiki administration has been looking to migrate, and we had a few questions before deciding if we wanted to submit a formal request. [23:03:04] You can toss a thread in the #support forum and staff will answer in time, if that's easier [23:12:14] theyre irc tho 😭 [23:23:54] sorry, that's me, i moved here from the irc chat assuming it would be easier 😭 [23:26:35] Refreshed [23:28:38] To make it fully compatible it does require a few CSS styles but not that grand unlike t*meless [23:29:03] Medik is also sort of a good choice too [23:39:37] Citizen