Image placeholder/div` and then use js to replace the div with the actual image. [00:10:30] Extension review jail 😭 [00:11:06] [1/2] how good is a 1s LCP considered [00:11:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500288555950542868/image.png?ex=69f7e419&is=69f69299&hm=dfb19124c9ce01adac94b5591a4cb4a65e1ede76954e21e81b43b13682ae18a8& [00:14:02] Slightly higher than normal I think? I tested on 3 wikis. On the first 2 it's between 0.2s-0.5s. On the third it's 0.8s-1s. [00:14:36] You also want to log out before testing anything, as logging in bypasses some caching mechanisms. [00:15:38] Third one is using citizen btw. Though it is also very CSS heavy which could be a contributing factor. [00:16:32] It also depends on your network conditions. So maybe compare against Meta. [00:21:53] [1/4] $('a[href$=".webp"] img[src*="fileicon.png"]').attr('src', function() { [00:21:53] [2/4] return $(this).closest('a').attr('href'); [00:21:53] [3/4] }); [00:21:54] [4/4] that works but takes some time to replace the image ') [00:22:14] Extension:RenderBlocking? [00:22:23] trying [00:22:28] waiting for it to apply [00:22:42] It should work with `?debug=2` [00:23:19] [1/3] https://celestialcaverns.miraheze.org/wiki/File:Singularity_Effect.webp?debug=2 [00:23:20] [2/3] https://celestialcaverns.miraheze.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Renderblocking.js [00:23:20] [3/3] either it doesn't work with renderblocking or idk [00:24:39] is there a convenient extension for local js testing like stylus is for css [00:24:56] You need to do `window.addEventListener("DOMContentLoaded", () => { ... }` [00:25:09] See the example on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:RenderBlocking#Theme_wiki_pages_based_on_the_category [00:28:14] it works! [00:28:15] [1/2] > Furthermore, you can use the browser's developer tools to override the content of the network request to the extension's API: this will replace the returned JavaScript code from the server with what you want to test. [00:28:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500292871713067058/image.png?ex=69f7e81e&is=69f6969e&hm=99b229f03fce7ca3c682115ebc919b5f8c0454a53c73ce6c882d99d0973ad9c2& [00:30:09] Where is that menu exactly if I may ask? [00:31:20] [1/2] You might see a different interface on Firefox [00:31:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500293650091999323/image.png?ex=69f7e8d8&is=69f69758&hm=8cb5166b58b7f3988ad1970699eef2de6d8cae26c987b243ca4c8e48132a00ae& [00:32:59] There's `set network override` but I don't see a more convenient way to override the response. [00:39:38] [1/3] Oh I just realised that the media link gets stored only on the file page and not when actually using the media- [00:39:38] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500295736099606659/image.png?ex=69f7eac9&is=69f69949&hm=677c147453cf5b3fde236acd2f361369b338321115ff578fbdc898850bace52f& [00:39:38] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500295736506581144/image.png?ex=69f7eac9&is=69f69949&hm=db4ce838fa92bcae27eee850cf2f87b76ec06bf8224051ce77a38fc728eca469& [00:39:43] Well yea its gonna be painful [00:40:50] ^ This might be necessary then [01:11:12] so you have to write it every single time you make a table? [01:11:15] hmm [01:11:21] I am using the visual editor [01:11:47] I was thinking, maybe is there a way to put a code in commons.css or sum to make this automatically [01:13:51] there are a few ways to make tables easier. Templates is porbably more feasible though [01:14:44] Yeah that'll be the better approach. For tables of a certain class change the background color of the heading. [01:15:48] [1/2] got this error trying to save one of my pages 😕 and it keeps happening. [01:15:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500304840545538210/image.png?ex=69f7f344&is=69f6a1c4&hm=429eed15bc471cb045a1dfb1553ce4723719508088b8f1e77b0579cb3ea04cbb& [01:16:12] that's the thing, my coding skill is bad😭 [01:16:37] hence, me using visualeditor [01:16:38] and i can't upload files again 🙁 [01:16:40] im seeing general loading issues myself [01:16:49] it takes forever to just load a page [01:17:06] have i been banned for using modules? [01:17:23] i have no issues with loading pages. [01:17:33] i just can't save anything or upload anything [01:18:22] Ray ID: 9f5b6d83ee53065b Your IP address: 24.233.206.197 Error reference number: 502 Cloudflare Location: Ashburn [01:18:35] i think the site is just having trouble [01:19:37] miraheze issue not you [01:34:47] miraheze is down for me too [01:35:23] It's down for me as well. Bad gateway errors as seen in #tech-ops, which has been on fire lately. [01:35:48] gateway errors [01:35:52] Same [01:35:54] the miraheze server is on fire [01:36:04] The hell is going on [01:36:27] Quick, get some marshmallows as we make some s'mores as the servers are on fire. [01:36:43] I just wanted to edit my wiki's CSS I got cooking in my sandbox, but looks like I'll have to do that offline until someone gets some hot Schmoe's ready. [01:37:16] known and looking [01:37:30] DB161 [01:37:37] yeah [01:40:09] random employee after accidentally messing up a table in mirahezes code [01:42:43] How would I enable the in tab edit button to specifically edit that subsection? [01:47:23] [1/2] I just got this on my wiki [01:47:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500312790055911575/image.png?ex=69f7faab&is=69f6a92b&hm=fd83338c72d663068e3e4d901a6a4880eb57e7bd4bb29b954f4be911a10f351f& [01:47:45] anybody getting this too? [01:47:50] yee [01:47:55] mods know about it [01:48:30] Yes... here too [01:48:43] Expected, I've removed one of our database servers from production while it is having problems [01:49:27] Ah [01:50:43] [1/2] Nope, not getting this. My wiki's still online, as we're on a different database server. It _was_ offline earlier, though. [01:50:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500313624919674880/image.png?ex=69f7fb72&is=69f6a9f2&hm=21fddf03ccafcc88d65ff1f06a941b69012b14439381b74b8812f65a70c40ad9& [01:52:24] Thanks void, hoping you will able to recovery it soon and without too much hassle.. [01:52:31] Good to know that it ain't js my server experiencing this lol [01:53:05] Hope things go well, Void! [01:54:08] Gotcha, ty Void, I hope it goes well [01:54:56] It's essentially just waiting on a restart at this point [01:58:05] Hello [01:58:15] Wild. I have two wikis and one id down and the other isnt lol [01:58:59] different databases I presume. [02:10:58] [1/4] Does anyone know why the wikitable template from Help:Infobox 101 isn't centering when I use it? [02:10:59] [2/4] I've literally copy-pasted the same code from the help page, and it's still left aligned [02:10:59] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500318723846963343/image.png?ex=69f80032&is=69f6aeb2&hm=4a93961b48e9d8c69641b920da055386de80fe50735923b9d9a8cfba06b9958c& [02:10:59] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500318724320788582/image.png?ex=69f80032&is=69f6aeb2&hm=d0ce68e1dd1b4ae75412d920d2c62fdf7390c5b3f351596f8f89d4cca28eb623& [02:11:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500318852783804628/image.png?ex=69f80051&is=69f6aed1&hm=137dff809ea2f7b1c4edc436c91174a2de858827094a224a5efdb34bc4be718f& [02:12:56] I'm working on a new wiki and don't get much time during the week due to work. Does anyone know how long maintenance can last? [02:21:48] alt crystal form what doing >? [02:22:13] hm? [02:22:32] Should be back up for all soon [02:22:50] nvm [02:24:39] i love the refreshed skin [02:25:21] Same. I've been busy adjusting it on my CSS page for a good chunk of last night and today. [02:25:33] Yeah I'm a big Refreshed fan too. [02:25:51] I got pretty attached to HasSomeColors too recently. [02:26:08] So flexible and so customizable for Refreshed. I love it. HasSomeColors is nice. [02:27:01] I tried Medik. I liked it at first but edit being under a dropdown got really old after awhile. [02:27:15] Also the drop down just stopped working at some point no matter what I did [02:28:41] 😭 [02:31:17] Thank you for jumping in on a weekend! [02:51:58] the only thing i DESPISE about refreshed is that it for some reason creates a whole different html tag for when you focus on a button [02:52:34] like... excuse me?? couldn't you have used the :focus filter??? [02:53:04] Apparently not. Now I have to go through hoops to make things work. [02:54:10] i'm not a web developer (yet), but that thing sounds like break a bajillion web design rules [02:54:50] many web developers are busy breaking all of the web design rules all the time [02:55:10] CSS wizards aren't happy. 😭 [02:55:17] i wonder if wikimedia is one of them [02:55:29] with their absurd amounts of variables [02:56:44] not particularly, variables are fine, maybe a little just for the fact that it's obviously been around for a long time and legacy can come with difficulties that aren't necessarily easily gotten around. wikimedia is rather old-school web which I'll take any day over [the 49mb web page](https://thatshubham.com/blog/news-audit) [02:57:25] dayum [02:58:09] Wow. [03:00:05] i really want to start learning web design tbh, got a handy HTML5 & CSS3 book so that'll be nice to have [03:15:44] are the servers back up yet [03:17:25] just curious and I'm sure this has been asked before but I didn't see it in my search: How long do the wiki requests for new users usually take? couple hour? couple days? couple weeks? [03:21:01] Days usually if it's not insta approved by the AI reviwer [03:21:23] ty [03:22:25] Yes. Everything should be up now. [03:22:37] There's a website I know which is selling the wiki domain for like almost 3 dollars for the first year and after that it's 13.50 or smth every year [03:22:50] Don't know how reliable or trusted it is [03:23:51] I'm just gonna use the subdomain, better chance of it lasting longer than I will anyways lol [03:24:01] haha lol [03:24:35] It's called "rayname" btw [03:34:42] Who needs rules when you have pretty website [03:39:00] as a fellow ray... i would never lowball this steep [03:42:25] You bought a domain from that site? [03:44:16] no [04:16:32] [1/3] Is this bug with tabber known? [04:16:32] [2/3] And is there a way to fix it? [04:16:32] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500350322013634690/Untitled_Project.mp4?ex=69f81d9f&is=69f6cc1f&hm=16b0a3f2a2e5d1bf7a4ab243805d3df283969fda7f338584cc579fdbe3ddefb3& [04:20:45] [1/3] Is this bug with tabber known? [04:20:46] [2/3] And is there a way to fix it? [04:20:46] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500351384531243119/Untitled_Project.mp4?ex=69f81e9d&is=69f6cd1d&hm=f95d3cbcf6ada2c639728bbc1349747e92ed93e39cc98eb9303f60d81563df9b& [04:49:03] i love miraheze [04:49:56] Same. I made the right call for us moving to here. [05:15:05] is there a way to mass links using curly apostrophes to straight apostrophes [05:52:51] Looks like https://github.com/StarCitizenTools/mediawiki-extensions-TabberNeue/issues/252 and we just need to update TabberNeue to fix it. [05:59:27] That JS fix is just what we needed, thank you! [06:10:14] Hi [06:11:31] Hi. [06:12:30] I using IRC [06:14:35] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500380029320691783/Tabber_fix.gif?ex=69f8394a&is=69f6e7ca&hm=7242607c9c6775fc0f1d2d56f65fc3931f6dc6b13ed3ad38cda59595748d332f& [06:15:45] I thought it was similar to the tag. [06:26:32] What do you mean? [07:13:12] [1/2] @crystalite13 hi lol [07:13:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500394784475578409/image.png?ex=69f84708&is=69f6f588&hm=001d6e698e0b166f0e739fc588913fc8e50af4491439fd5e3ecfbc0f75ba654e& [07:13:28] i should lowkey make a cool signature [07:21:47] We should be able to deploy a proper fix btw. Just need someone to test the new extension version and then deploy it across the farm. [07:26:11] [1/2] was wondering why the bg is white when i made it black [07:26:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500398050890223726/image.png?ex=69f84a13&is=69f6f893&hm=2f0f9e1d8893c22248a5ab61ee9321e73d94a39c066e77f6d89b68ed7a36e10a& [07:26:18] until i realised im using dark mode [07:26:26] inverting suuuccckkkssss [08:31:35] usb [09:00:33] it only really works if you keep up with every potential example where the invert needs a revert [09:39:52] <.labster> Weird page behavior report. Basically, I could not create a templatestyles CSS page that contained an external link... to upload.wikimedia. Page creation would simply fail. But once the page was created, then I could add the image by passing the Captcha. [10:06:53] I love captchas [10:14:30] @kostajh given you were asking about Captchas, new bug ^ [10:22:06] On which site? [10:22:30] Page creation vs edit is probably not as thoroughly tested [10:23:37] @notaracham Looks it's the Miraheze ToS supersoldier who represents the views of the Miraheze stewards and only ever reports in good faith [10:47:52] have you considered the possibility that nobody wants to hear about your spats with NA and the other stews [10:52:48] @.labster [10:53:05] We're not going here [10:54:23] ik [10:54:37] I wasn't planning on dragging it out beyond there [10:54:41] [1/3] @posix_memalign hey using your suggestion with filepath and data attributes I was able to create template for rendering animated webp media relying on js, but there is another issue I am not sure how do deal with. Using webp images within :uhhh: [10:54:41] [2/3] Would it even be possible [10:54:41] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500450517946601564/image.png?ex=69f87af0&is=69f72970&hm=78654ddebd2c28798991bf32550a34dfb4b62d799b13e5deacf5323b140b6419& [11:05:19] I assume the only way is storing filepath in file description and then reapplying it for the media or something like that [11:21:28] yep that worked [11:59:52] anyone know a better to force literally every gif in a wiki to autoplay, because the setting to make it do that just doesnt work [11:59:58] and im forced to use js to make it work [12:00:13] and one page in my wiki has like a gazillion gifs and it sometimes takes forever to load [12:00:14] (sometimes) [12:10:39] Did you adjust $wgMaxAnimatedGifArea [12:12:54] I'd say if your page takes forever to load it's probably because the GIFs are huge not necessarily because you're using JS to autoplay them [12:13:36] Though if you adjust the max allowed animated area you would get proper GIF thumbnails which would be smaller in size [12:14:56] And make sure to enable $wgNativeImageLazyLoading as well [12:20:22] fascisnating [12:42:50] yes i did [12:42:54] it did nothing for like a day [12:43:05] not even sure by how much i should adjust it [12:44:34] Check your largest GIFs by size and multiply width x height x frames [12:45:03] If that number is above $wgMaxAnimatedGifArea the GIF won't be animated [12:45:46] Which tells you how much you need to increase it [12:46:16] After adjusting you'll need to purge the pages using the GIFs such that the thumbnails regenerate [12:46:39] absolutely no clue as how to how ill find my largest gifs LOL [12:46:45] i think i have an idea as to [12:46:50] which is the biggest probably [12:47:08] holy shit what 😭 [12:47:34] Do you know how to purge pages [12:47:50] 13904640 the number i got [12:48:04] [1/2] just this right... [12:48:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500479055521382601/image.png?ex=69f89584&is=69f74404&hm=d23ff52b8c0a27a62d203842717ea8e2ba7082a83f9a2dd4ffca179ca7e7548b& [12:48:09] Yeah [12:48:17] we purging [12:48:18] 1094 pages [12:48:33] You can use jswikibot or something [12:49:00] [[dev:jswikibot]] [12:49:01]