[00:25:07] Miraheze has a wikipedia article in Spanish but not English for some reason? Huh [00:25:08] hi [00:29:58] Interesting [00:37:05] the English one keeps getting deleted for not being notable enough [00:38:50] -# I just think they jelly. [00:59:45] [1/2] are you looking for this? [00:59:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1499938410989879416/image.png?ex=69f69e00&is=69f54c80&hm=0963641b5baf1274b268874e75581bf86577f34393d0826fe17f1bd1e14157d0& [01:00:35] wha weird [01:00:49] why doesn't the numbers be squares? [01:01:10] on the font I use, \1 \2 \3 is a square [01:01:22] I customized it a bit on my end with CSS, but I'm not sure what you need [01:01:42] the numbers supposed to ligature with the letter [01:01:50] like this ^ [01:22:17] I think there's an issue with the font file [01:22:40] Ligatures are not assigned to latn script so they will not work in browsers [01:22:48] I tried it in figma and it seems a-okay with me [01:23:05] before this it works fine [01:23:48] and then I tried to move the font file I was using because there was some mistakes with the glyphs [01:23:52] and then it breaks [01:24:36] [1/2] try this instead [01:24:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1499944664990613605/fixed-font.woff2?ex=69f6a3d3&is=69f55253&hm=0d99de05057546f4bd4906e6e711f95422a5b8a4ea754b79d9ce66155c769d68& [01:24:43] I have registered liga under latn [01:25:25] [1/2] a3 with the original font (ligatures aren't properly registered, even if they're in the glyphs) [01:25:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1499944871346311168/image.png?ex=69f6a404&is=69f55284&hm=a5ca0b5d5b4877cd09a143776bf448d7eed431b9c6b1f2ae5daf8d52851e85e3& [01:25:37] [1/2] after the fix [01:25:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1499944920448897054/image.png?ex=69f6a410&is=69f55290&hm=d86e5dd3754499793393c0de46d6e4c675b93a53821e9cd45a09c24d4847ceb8& [01:26:01] which corresponds to uni0061.0 (a3) [03:19:13] okiii [03:19:20] I'll try it [03:19:48] to be fair the original font was .otf [03:20:08] maybe when I converted it to woff2 there was some issues [03:57:01] Hello, my wiki was recently closed and I was not given a reason, nor did I recieve an email or a warning to fix any issues that were on my wiki. [03:57:41] Miraheze's publishing terms promise notice, appeals, and specific procedures, which have been ignored. [03:57:53] My account was also universally locked. [05:59:35] Hello, which wiki was taken down? [06:06:18] emuempire.miraheze.org [06:13:10] [1/2] Thanks. I've reviewed findings from the member of trust & safety that took the action, and agree with the general finding that we can no longer offer hosting. [06:13:10] [2/2] However, I've unlocked your account (and that of the other admin) for the purposes of collecting backups of your content to rebuild the wiki elsewhere. I've left a notice on your talk page with next steps. [06:13:31] Alright, do you mind if I speak to you in private? [06:14:10] If you'd like [07:46:12] YESSSS I WORKS [07:46:15] FINALLY [07:46:23] YOU DONT KNOW HOW HAPPY I AM [10:51:13] no featured wikis? [10:52:17] Minor spelling mistake :despair: [10:52:42] Nope. It's a column that gets sacrificed when there is sufficient content or when we are too lazy to come up with a list. [10:52:51] Same goes for tech tips. [11:34:24] How can I give access to specific people to my private wiki? [11:35:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_add_a_user_to_a_private_wiki [11:59:55] Oh crap I forgot to show you the source code, did I? [12:00:50] [1/8] This is what I got so far [12:00:50] [2/8] ```{{Characters/MainCHeader}} [12:00:50] [3/8] {{Characters/MainCharacters}} [12:00:50] [4/8]
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[12:00:51] [7/8] {{Characters/MinorCHeader}} [12:00:52] [8/8] {{Characters/MinorCharacters}}``` [13:43:34] I was hoping to feature my wiki for this month's monthly [14:00:37] which wiki [14:00:54] itemasylum :bombasticsideeye: [14:01:13] Are there like any requirements for a wiki to be featured [14:16:02] I think you just write a few sentences about your wiki here and that's it https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Talk:Miraheze_Monthly/Wiki_highlights [14:39:45] about the community wiki for miraheze, what are the requirements to have your wiki have it's own page [14:40:25] I don't know honestly, I know very little about how the communities wiki works [14:44:33] [1/2] your wiki must: [14:44:33] [2/2] 1. be on miraheze [14:44:59] It's already om MH so that's eazy :3c [14:50:26] Creating an entry for mine :AA_honeywrite_DNS: [15:00:45] [1/2] So... how do I uh 🥹 [15:00:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500150057083605072/image.png?ex=69f7631d&is=69f6119d&hm=01f44c752b06aa34eca6352d59a21d846f31be36c343b50bfdae8f863d1658a0& [15:02:49] the infobox is empty... 🥹 [15:05:38] Takes a little bit [15:05:44] a lil bit [15:27:18] okay, thanks! [15:27:24] will try this [16:14:17] ah [16:14:18] i see [16:23:31] Oh cool [16:23:42] I’ll submit Equestripedia once we hit 6,000 articles [16:23:44] you gotta edit Item:Q1296 [16:23:51] and add stuff [16:24:20] [1/2] for example: [16:24:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500171094278275212/image.png?ex=69f776b4&is=69f62534&hm=591e3879e6e915b76298bad0171e96e5bf4526abcd46a12016edadeb962854f6& [16:24:36] A bot will populate most of that [16:24:42] ohh [16:24:43] ok ok [16:24:50] Cc @posix_memalign [16:25:27] summoning petra [16:27:13] whats ur wiki about :3 [16:28:14] I've noticed I can't save the URL [16:28:33] But I added the database name so I guess the bot will pick it up [16:29:09] ah [16:29:23] also isnt there already an official undertale and deltarune wiki? [16:29:34] My little pony [16:29:45] There is [16:29:47] Well [16:29:52] Not official but de facto and awesome [16:30:01] cool as hell [16:30:04] i se [17:08:52] ohh got it [17:28:56] am i the only one who pronounces miraheze as "mirror hazy" [17:29:16] mee rah huzz [17:33:18] mee rah hez [17:34:20] If a Dormancy policy exemption is approved, is there anything more that needs to be done on the side of the person making the request? does https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy/Exemptions still get updated? and is there a way to see on the wiki that it is exempted without waiting to see if the warning pops up again? [17:35:19] [1/2] is there any fix for portable infoboxes breaking page previews [17:35:19] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500188956514582811/0hx5qz3.png?ex=69f78757&is=69f635d7&hm=3e98b5b08d174d3c047648ac1f661a9fd301f2e04e935fbac5c0a12b68126769& [17:37:24] You can check Special:ManageWiki [17:37:56] ohh i see it thank you <3 [17:42:10] set `wgPortableInfoboxUseHeadings` to false [17:44:05] ok, thanks [17:44:57] hey guys [17:47:35] can you report pages in here [17:48:05] what kind of stuff [17:48:34] misinformation, illegal stuff, etc [17:48:35] like content policy reports on someone's wiki page [17:49:01] would that have to be on the mirahaze site exclusively? [17:50:00] primarily yes, but might be worth investigating if there is a clear link to be made between off-wiki presence and on-wiki [17:50:21] well, the wiki we're having an issue with has to do pretty much entirely off-wiki [17:50:30] what do you mean? [17:50:40] if you mean off-platform that is [17:53:24] [1/3] we can't exactly enforce the content policy for things that happened off-platform [17:53:24] [2/3] but if you say there's something straight up illegal happening then that's something I'd be interested in as a Trust and Safety member [17:53:25] [3/3] you can file a report at https://reports.miraheze.org or by emailing ts@miraheze.org [17:53:47] Ok thank you, it's about stuff on a wiki page [18:00:36] i'd like to configure wgNoFollowDomainExceptions on my wiki but it's not in ManageWiki. I already filed https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T15325 but was wondering if there's anything I can do to make it happen sooner (e.g. writing code) [18:02:30] all our config is public at [18:02:54] i can just write a pr? cool [18:02:58] Ye [18:03:31] If you'd like to give it a shot we have a guide on how to make config PRs [18:03:44] [[User:PixDeVl/TC 101]] (shameless plug) [18:03:45] [18:04:10] huh i tried to post a link to CONTRIBUTING.md on github and automod blocked me. are links blocked or something? [18:04:24] You'll need to #verify first [18:04:33] oh ok [18:05:19] ...i clicked my verify link and it just loaded the miraheze meta homepage... confuse [18:05:47] It shouldn't do that [18:05:57] the url is right (/metawiki/w/rest.php/blahblah) but it returned the homepage without seemingly doing anything else [18:06:32] That link isn't right [18:06:41] You don't need /metawiki/ [18:06:49] Just /w/rest.pho [18:07:00] @markusrost [18:07:00] [1/2] you sure [18:07:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500196929672577194/image.png?ex=69f78ec4&is=69f63d44&hm=09a2ee195b673503e3bedca019144ab36313b2e7ec07c4471ae0be2f4fa47984& [18:07:32] oh i have a bad feeling [18:07:46] What [18:07:51] That's not true [18:07:58] What the is happening there [18:08:10] i suspect https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/commit/769ae613b407c19ba1fd5f2ef97d04a17de728fb [18:08:25] I suspect https://github.com/miraheze/mw-config/commit/769ae613b407c19ba1fd5f2ef97d04a17de728fb too [18:08:37] How has that not broken more things [18:08:41] FYI @kockaadmiralac [18:08:51] @pskyechology you want to revert? [18:08:56] can do [18:09:13] computers. [18:09:41] i was wondering why search is broke [18:12:11] miraheze connect button on settings.wikibot.de gives the same 404 [18:12:34] It should be fixed [18:12:38] oh suddenly it works now 👍 [18:12:39] At least on our end [18:12:41] quick revert [18:13:39] i carried 18 liters of coke home so i am extremely motivated right now [18:13:51] they had a sale what can i say [18:15:48] confusion, still...if i use the link in #verify (and remove /metawiki from the url) wikibot website says it failed to connect. if i use the connect button on wikibot website it says it works but i'm still not verify [18:16:06] eh whatever [18:16:29] the part i was really unsure about is how to test the change. do you just push it to prod and see if it looks right? [18:17:44] that's the neat part, you don't [18:17:51] ehehehe [18:18:16] you either have beta access to test yourself on our stack or a lot of the time locally as well [18:18:24] this is one of those that you could test locally [18:18:33] is there a guide to making a good local test setup [18:18:45] or is it just like, go grab mediawiki and install our config and extensions etc [18:19:16] in a lot of cases you dont need our full stack and this is one of them [18:19:30] mhm [18:19:44] most smart people would recommend booting up mediawiki via docker but honestly you can just do a quick local sqlite install as well [18:19:49] Where is the right place to ask about removing a custom domain from a wiki? [18:20:00] right here works since i'm around [18:20:36] Can I get the custom domain removed from vside.miraheze.org / vside.wiki please? The cost went up a LOT and I can't afford to keep the custom domain [18:20:50] of course [18:20:54] thank you so much <3 [18:21:41] !wiki test [18:21:41] I'm fully functional! [18:22:06] we had an issue with scriptpath being messed up fyi [18:22:18] Yeah, I've read back [18:22:33] i would recommend using google search console's "change of address" tool while you can [18:22:50] Just trying to figure out why it keeps the metawiki in the rest path [18:23:06] im gonna blame caching [18:23:11] it hasn't been active long enough to be properly indexed anyways and I'll just have a few months of a 301 redirect on the domain [18:23:11] !wiki eval wiki [18:23:12] [1/41] ```js [18:23:12] [2/41] Wiki { [18:23:12] [3/41] href: 'https://meta.miraheze.org/w/', [18:23:13] [4/41] name: 'https://meta.miraheze.org/w/', [18:23:13] [5/41] origin: 'https://meta.miraheze.org', [18:23:13] [6/41] protocol: 'https:', [18:23:13] [7/41] username: '', [18:23:14] [8/41] password: '', [18:23:14] [9/41] host: 'meta.miraheze.org', [18:23:15] [10/41] hostname: 'meta.miraheze.org', [18:23:15] [11/41] port: '', [18:23:16] [12/41] pathname: '/w/', [18:23:16] [13/41] search: '', [18:23:17] [14/41] searchParams: URLSearchParams {}, [18:23:17] [15/41] hash: '', [18:23:18] [16/41] proxyName: null, [18:23:18] [17/41] articlepath: '/wiki/$1', [18:23:19] [18/41] articleURL: articleURL { [18:23:19] [19/41] href: 'https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/$1', [18:23:20] [20/41] origin: 'https://meta.miraheze.org', [18:23:20] [21/41] protocol: 'https:', [18:23:21] [22/41] username: '', [18:23:21] [23/41] password: '', [18:23:22] [24/41] host: 'meta.miraheze.org', [18:23:22] [25/41] hostname: 'meta.miraheze.org', [18:23:23] [26/41] port: '', [18:23:23] [27/41] pathname: '/wiki/$1', [18:23:24] [28/41] search: '', [18:23:24] [29/41] searchParams: URLSearchParams {}, [18:23:25] [30/41] hash: '' [18:23:25] [31/41] }, [18:23:26] [32/41] spaceReplacement: '_', [18:23:26] [33/41] mainpage: 'Miraheze Meta', [18:23:27] [34/41] mainpageisdomainroot: false, [18:23:27] [35/41] namespaces: 30, [18:23:28] [36/41] centralauth: true, [18:23:28] [37/41] oauth2: true, [18:23:29] [38/41] wikifarm: 'miraheze', [18:23:29] [39/41] gamepedia: false [18:23:30] [40/41] } [18:23:30] [41/41] ``` [18:23:31] fajr [18:23:31] done but might take a bit to take effect [18:24:02] Same but the question is cached where 😅 [18:25:00] Is there a way to link to a page with parameters in the sidebar? For example, if I want to create a page to a list of all buckets: I can get such a page from `Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=9592`, but this doesn't work as a sidebar target because of the escaping [18:25:40] [1/2] Found it, using `!wiki test` updated the cache with the correct value so that's why everything looked fine in the eval. [18:25:40] [2/2] Anyhow, #verify should be fixed now [18:25:50] yay thank you <3 [18:28:47] <_chrs_, replying to kacii> you would need to use the full url [18:30:52] Looks like `Special:AllPages/NAMESPACENAME:` works, like [[Special:AllPages/User:]] [18:30:53] [18:31:12] So did you fix it now [18:32:08] i undid your commit yes [18:32:15] The notifications were fixed after that commit which means they're now broken again [18:32:24] Ah thank you both for the solutions! [18:32:31] search and api being borked is worse than that [18:33:15] Yeah but I guess we should check what's the root cause [18:33:18] Bah, no one uses search anyway 🙃 [18:49:27] .wiki prices genuinely skyrocketing 💔💔💔 [18:50:35] Everything is, it's sucks :( it's not even like it really costs them much to host a tld a:rolleyes: [18:53:30] :(, may I ask by how much? [18:54:01] it's now $44 /year from namecheap [18:54:14] I think it was closer to like 20 [18:57:14] hoooooly [19:00:51] `.wiki` is still $20 on Cloudflare I think. [19:03:48] for how long? :rip: [19:04:40] namecheap have the shitty business tactic of offering really cheap first year registration and then adding a ridiculous markup for future years [19:04:56] cloudflare registrar at least give you the price it costs them to register it with no extra markups [19:05:13] I've been using them for years without having many issues :( [19:07:20] although its not like its hidden that the first year is cheaper [19:07:55] usually I just use them for the first year then move it over to cf if I plan on keeping the domain [19:08:15] exactly what im gonna do for mine rn [19:09:38] [1/2] is this botting [19:09:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500212690289950770/image.png?ex=69f79d71&is=69f64bf1&hm=b798ce3a1032379c7812219208a1078549cbe596c31067bc06a9263162e9e870& [19:09:48] possibly [19:10:54] who the hell would bot my website [19:10:59] its literally 3 lines of text [19:11:02] pure html [19:11:09] scrapers scrape anything these days [19:12:01] the only bots I don't block are bing and googlebot [19:12:12] the rest can get fucked [19:12:19] even applebot crawls so aggressively [19:12:53] oh I got really scammed xD the .wiki domain was actually only 2.98 when I bought it [19:13:04] namecheap are a bit deceptive [19:14:05] $20 cost and $20 renewal. [19:14:11] [1/2] what a scam [19:14:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500213835670487146/image.png?ex=69f79e83&is=69f64d03&hm=e223a1fcb4054d52f63dce3a59049ff340bf365bd674bc600cf2f1d97a5ef820& [19:14:14] If I Accidentally Submit a Report Twice what Happens [19:16:18] nothing [19:16:47] Ok thanks I got worried [19:17:41] i have a mediawiki checkout...how to make it reasonably use your config? [19:17:58] you need to open it for transfer [19:18:05] namecheap have some option somewhere in the dashboard [19:18:48] [1/2] but the other ones I ahve say this instead [19:18:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500214998427893861/image.png?ex=69f79f98&is=69f64e18&hm=849ca0de6bbe8abf96257e786040f9d6ed2bcf386ab73f89d977ae2de8ea6a43& [19:19:00] should i just take my existing local test wiki and include ManageWikiSettings.php from it [19:19:18] is it unlocked for transfer? [19:19:56] no but neither are the others, it specifically has "transfer prohibited" rather than just locked [19:20:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500215521440694412/image.png?ex=69f7a014&is=69f64e94&hm=da24ce805502dadb3c4f155e65be3ba4885969089f0a0a5ea984f8d24df581df& [19:20:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500215546321436802/image.png?ex=69f7a01a&is=69f64e9a&hm=c82c63e13aff6ea311ddb630813c688ee6979e60323f6ee84647b86b04c6b94b& [19:22:25] [1/2] No, I get that, all of them are locked right now, but.. here this image will help more lol [19:22:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500215907396358298/image.png?ex=69f7a070&is=69f64ef0&hm=4273a66b06a6ab411a584aff494dbbf8e90053b397b133720262bbd57edde513& [19:23:16] the .wiki is singled out [19:26:19] those fees have to be paid right now btw [19:28:32] yup just got one today for 20 [19:28:57] @whostacking [19:29:07] dm [19:29:51] https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited wack. [19:30:01] [1/5] > This status may indicate an issue with your domain that needs to be addressed promptly. You should contact your registrar to request more information and resolve the issue. If your domain does not have any issues, and you simply want to transfer it to another registrar, you must first contact your registrar and request that they work with the Registry Operator to remove this status c [19:30:01] [2/5] ode. [19:30:02] [3/5] > [19:30:02] [4/5] > Alternatively, some Registry Operators offer a Registry Lock Service that allows registrants, through their registrars to set this status as an extra protection against unauthorized transfers. Removing this status can take longer than it does for clientTransferProhibited because your registrar has to forward your request to your domain's registry and wait for them to lift the restric [19:30:02] [5/5] tion. [19:30:24] that means GoDaddy, the operator of .wiki, is somehow blocking the transfer [19:30:30] not Namecheap [19:31:01] pray u dont have to contact GoDaddy [19:31:51] anyone but godaddy [19:31:52] I'm just gonna let it go tbh, I have to cut expenses anyways where possible [19:32:13] oh I got that for a while with an .ai domain [19:32:28] you could let it lapse and then just repurchase from CF when it lapses [19:32:30] oh cloudflare charged me for a year, but its added on to what i already had [19:32:33] so why charge me [19:32:35] it's like 60 or 90 extra days [19:35:01] wow im saving money for my domains now [19:35:13] I think all transfers do that [19:36:53] Yeah [19:37:50] When I was transferring some domains for UT/DR to Namecheap they also charged me for the next year [19:39:40] transfers are technically renewals for most TLDs [19:39:58] personally i use porkbun because their prices are close to cloudflare and they aren't trying to sell me an entire cdn [19:41:39] I use Gandi for some domains as CF doesn't support some ccTLDs [20:01:43] [1/3] So i'm using tabs for a page of mine and want to know how I would change it so the edit button will open up a page specifically for that tab/sub section, rather than the entire section, including all tabs. [20:01:43] [2/3] https://forestrike.miraheze.org/wiki/Admiral#The_Admiral%27s_Encounter [20:01:43] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500225795023568956/image.png?ex=69f7a9a6&is=69f65826&hm=3358892eed77da03f87f7463a5642917827dc22daf615adde60e74078c0de0f9& [20:07:48] <_chrs_> for future reference for getting domains: https://tld-list.com/tld/wiki [20:10:02] theres no way gandi is 90 dollars for .wiki 😭 [20:11:14] oh yeah some TLDs are nightmare fuel [20:12:18] my country TLD has some weird requirements (no whois queries, for example) and need to pass some approval process so few offer it [20:13:03] gandi was the "biggest" one at the time as I wanted to avoid regional providers for their lack of features (no apex domains, for example) [20:15:08] <_chrs_> oh yeah ccTLD's always come with at least a pinch of weirdness [20:53:29] @beeie hello [21:24:10] [1/2] Awesome deals out there [21:24:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500246545633640600/image.png?ex=69f7bcf9&is=69f66b79&hm=343d7e0a2d021b76f9f829ee3952a269e91ac71f322dcc14f68a282063e4ec69& [21:29:45] and no whois privacy [21:30:28] Everyone will know you bought a .wiki domain for $293,124.51 [21:32:05] people will dox me, come to my doorstep, point at me with their fingers and laugh [21:39:41] gladly [21:39:44] at your service [21:41:36] https://tenor.com/view/adachi-laugh-laughing-yakuza-ryu-ga-gotoku-gif-20928456 [21:52:20] [1/5] I can see that there is: [21:52:21] [2/5] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Infobox/styles.css [21:52:21] [3/5] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:Infobox [21:52:21] [4/5] Is that style actually used & how? [21:52:22] [5/5] (In other words: how do I use templatestyles...?) [21:56:29] It's not used as far as I can tell [21:56:45] But if you want to use it, `` [21:57:46] Oh, wait, right. Yes, thanks. I think I am getting mixed up from something I took from the meta wiki, or possibly one from one or one from the other [22:01:14] speaking of infoboxstyles [22:01:24] any way to disable the sanitizer? [22:01:26] <_chrs_, replying to kacii> [1/2] Module:Infobox is used by the various wikipedia-style infobox templates on devwiki [22:01:26] <_chrs_, replying to kacii> [2/2] /styles.css isn't currently used, I made that for a potential change/variant of the module so that you don't need to modify common.css to use it [22:01:50] <_chrs_, replying to unai> [1/2] templatestyles? [22:01:50] <_chrs_, replying to unai> [2/2] Try enabling TemplateStylesExtender [22:02:05] no [22:02:15] That just extends the sanitizer with a few more properties but sadly it didn't cover everything I needed [22:02:19] I made an extension for it [22:02:19] So I went back to Common.css [22:02:25] But it's not on Miraheze so [22:02:32] <_chrs_> what are you trying to make work? [22:02:40] [[mw:Extension:TemplateStylesUnlimited]] [22:02:41] [22:03:30] <_chrs_, replying to kockaadmiralac> so uhhh that kinda defeats the purpose of templatestyles... [22:03:56] Depends on what you think the purpose is [22:04:16] -webkit-text-stroke, background-clip: text; -webkit-text-fill-color [22:04:18] I think having styles associated with templates is its main strength [22:04:29] (background-clip is allowed, but doesn't support text) [22:09:17] <_chrs_, replying to kockaadmiralac> I'd say the main strength is that they can be created/edited by all users (and not just those with pliers), it's already the case that templatestyles you load apply to the entire page content and not just "within the template using them" [22:10:17] Right, but it's also the case that they're overly restrictive [22:11:20] And on many wikis I've visited it's not that important of a feature to let everyone edit template styles, because the interface admins are the only ones who know how to anyways [22:11:38] So this is a tradeoff between these two [22:11:50] Yeah they could find some middle ground. Sanitizer for "all" users, and no sanitizer for MediaWiki pages since you usually need editinterface anyways [22:12:31] afaik you can hook the PHP function to replace it so I guess you could "officially" skip it somehow? [22:12:49] Well yeah that's what I did in the extension [22:13:26] That's one of the goals of https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Mustache which I should really make another push to finish and file an extension request. [22:13:40] And the reason I didn't implement the option to still apply sanitization to non-MW template styles is that I'm pretty sure it never passes me the title object when replacing the sanitizer anywhere [22:13:57] But I'll have to take another look at it [22:14:53] do you get any conflicts if you keep both? [22:15:05] templatestyles for sanitized templates and your extension for admins [22:15:17] TSU entirely replaces the functionality of TS [22:15:26] I mean you have to install both [22:15:31] yeah [22:15:38] But then TSU restricts you [22:15:57] Let me check actually if the title is passed anywhere and maybe I can make the change [22:16:06] or frees you :bloblul: [22:16:21] Restricts in some and frees in other ways yeah lol [22:17:19] Offtopic, got a strange bug going on and I'm not sure if it's cache (probably) [22:17:30] I requested a custom domain today and it works flawlessly on Chrome [22:17:39] But on Firefox the new domain redirects to the old one [22:17:49] ManageWiki's domain points to the new one [22:17:52] DNS cache? [22:17:58] Or uh actually more likely HTTP [22:18:01] Does DNS have its own resolver? [22:18:13] I can't reproduce it on Chrome so I'm confused lol [22:18:19] <_chrs_, replying to kockaadmiralac> [1/2] yeah those are definitely places where the tradeoff might be reasonable, my point is mostly just that once you've made the decision to restrict editing to intadmins, it's closer to an ergonomic improvement to gadgets than templatestyles as intended [22:18:19] <_chrs_, replying to kockaadmiralac> [2/2] (now, the level of malicious fuckery one can do with css scoped to page content is 1000x less than with js, but that's another story) [22:19:06] [1/2] Did you try this with the Network tab open [22:19:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500260372102381738/image.png?ex=69f7c9da&is=69f6785a&hm=9a8a8b6af76b67ceb100269e262ddd5a6440b7cec8193cebc0450f35973a9477& [22:20:46] Yeah when I made it it was because conditionally loaded gadgets had a couple problems I didn't like [22:21:01] And still do, I guess [22:28:25] [1/2] yeah it's all good here. I bought the domain today and set it up on CF [22:28:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500262714277367838/image.png?ex=69f7cc08&is=69f67a88&hm=c01f60c139e039738476f50ffbe6492684fe07ae9bc9f03e9c0cadaf81c8734d& [22:28:45] I could understand if it didn't redirect to the new domain, but why does it redirect to the old one? 😭 [22:29:01] (where-winds-meet.wiki is the new one) [22:29:35] Hmm getting redirected on both Firefox and Chrome [22:29:49] to the custom domain? [22:30:01] To .miraheze.org [22:30:02] without an explicit redirect from us it's a gamble [22:30:20] why is it a gamble? i can offer no better answer than "mediawiki" [22:30:22] [1/2] Windows cURL (i think it's wrapper around some windows tool) gives me a middle finger [22:30:22] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500263206155976937/image.png?ex=69f7cc7d&is=69f67afd&hm=875c592c0c90096047f76eeacabba85b753fc04feef1016f2d136b7c9f38957d& [22:30:45] this is the same redirect i get on firefox [22:30:51] and yeah it works but it breaks csp lol [22:30:54] do you wanna speedrun getting a redirect [22:31:58] yeah but I wonder why it's handling redirects differently on the same device [22:32:11] like, they're supposed to have the same DNS resolver [22:32:11] like i said, its a gamble [22:32:21] not a DNS issue [22:32:47] someone gave custom domains RNGesium and we havent bothered to fix it [22:32:56] trust 👍 [22:32:58] I'm fine with the old domain, but I worry about CSP [22:33:13] yeah nothing is gonna work on the old domain [22:33:17] [1/2] because images jumped from a window and never came back [22:33:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500263943086538753/image.png?ex=69f7cd2d&is=69f67bad&hm=48b73e2f101edcc6d4ff19db033049f3e694735f214af5f43f6dd13360e978ae& [22:33:56] well, some do at least [22:34:03] RNGesium as you said [23:39:27] [1/2] Happened again [23:39:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500280592711946432/Screenshot_20260503_013907_Firefox.png?ex=69f7dcaf&is=69f68b2f&hm=90971de790e6cb150d0d93ed0713c8043b48d06e94b3d1ed06a8f264290b6176& [23:41:27] I mean I guess I know why it happened but it's still funny [23:41:41] Soon you’ll have as many first edits as Disney has had first gay characters [23:42:02] Lmao [23:44:34] halooo [23:44:37] I have a question [23:45:03] how would you make the table header's cell to be a different color? [23:45:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1500282026232778762/Screenshot_2026-05-02-21-06-48-675_com.android.chrome.png?ex=69f7de04&is=69f68c84&hm=02a3e5991dc6e40dfe6bf7388e9675e774c9daf06cd8383aff05abddab22365a& [23:45:25] currently it's the same color (same purple) [23:55:15] You just can't stop making first edits /silly [23:56:12] See https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tables#Attributes_on_caption_and_headers. This section deals with header colors.