[00:00:25] Do you have the "bot" permission in ur user? [00:02:53] yeah, apparently I need to make another account to make bot commands or use a bot password instead [00:03:25] [1/2] . . . or not :mouthfullofcum: [00:03:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1478905737957736611/image.png?ex=69aa19cc&is=69a8c84c&hm=f5b674b06d5ca5b63640cf550426cfc9531627ccc893b6bdd7d24e95e73dc1ed& [01:33:31] [1/2] I have cargo and my syntax may be correct so I'm confused why recreatedata is saying I didn't declare a cargo table [01:33:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1478928414026240166/image.png?ex=69aa2eeb&is=69a8dd6b&hm=3d3ac8bd52daab7bde6e3c47705d535424c5894a0460122126e2b6dd6f46a9a1& [01:55:21] [1/2] Tried importing a new .ogg file in my wiki page. I checked and OGG files are permitted in my wikis settings so.. I dunno. [01:55:21] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1478933908824264816/be2cbb1a-ce4e-4608-97e8-1f57e1dc9d72.jpg?ex=69aa3409&is=69a8e289&hm=676f019f084d6adfa10457140b1a4d0cac8bab95b0f72daa25b45c0e1d9fb68c& [01:57:24] can you copy the code it gave [01:57:56] Thing changes with every reload but [01:58:02] thats fine [01:58:23] bb1ed8ec6e6cb58f001d76cb [02:09:41] I almost thought it was due to the fact I had the wrong filename but no [02:10:21] no its cosmos being silly [02:10:31] Wait its a problem with the theming? Oh ok [02:10:41] Wait lemme try switching to a different theme rq [02:12:21] Fixed niceeee [02:12:26] Ty skye!! 😄 [02:13:45] [1/2] Oh another thing, the audio thing showed this [02:13:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1478938539398791188/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_9e89e5d2-8c86-4b02-bd1d-6a7b9d35a1ae.jpg?ex=69aa3859&is=69a8e6d9&hm=90c0b24031253ce41138b4c4b951810d0e49e93f49bbffeb3d79dc392cb19906& [02:15:28] Nvm disregard that i fixed it [02:15:33] Thx!! [02:31:09] hi [03:44:21] dont say goodbye, smell you later [04:36:52] 👀 !!! [04:43:36] Do we have role icons again now? [04:43:40] WE DO YEAHHHHH [04:43:45] LETS GOOOOO [04:44:12] Wiki is healing. [04:51:10] thank you epicest @orphiceunoia1 [05:06:56] 🔥 [05:08:23] <_chrs_> so uh.... what's the big deal about role icons? [05:08:27] <_chrs_> all they do is show up in the sidebar? [05:09:29] Makes it slightly easier to identify roles I think, especially since we have some roles with similar colors. [05:11:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1478983146019094568/image.gif?ex=69aa61e4&is=69a91064&hm=dcac9088ff6ade12880a16f3f5e8fb5a385f6f71fd8b913def60f11bc3f0c743& [05:11:30] For me the in line ones are more useful [05:11:47] Having the scales next to my name as an example [05:12:58] <_chrs_, replying to pixldev> uh..... they don't show up next to names??? [05:13:22] <_chrs_> they just kinda sit there in the sidebar? [05:13:38] <_chrs_> oh is this a compact mode thing? [05:14:06] <_chrs_> ah, I see [05:15:22] <_chrs_> mmm yeah role icons showing up inline are a compact-mode-off thing [05:17:09] <_chrs_> <-- boomer [05:21:55] ah [08:29:20] I like it when Discord feels more busier for me, makes me less bored. [10:33:53] hellooo [12:28:01] this is real [13:40:17] why many user registered on my wiki but nearly 0 is active? [13:46:04] People get curious, look at your wiki, then just don't edit it at all [13:47:05] Honestly it's normal even for big wikis to have way more users than editors [13:48:37] amazing [13:48:59] https://login.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Statistics look at this ratio of users to active users [14:59:13] Good morning [15:20:31] good evening [15:27:01] what time's it for you? [15:27:49] 15:27 [15:28:09] same [15:28:16] I just always say mornign [15:39:49] hello [15:43:46] [1/2] so I've got a question... I noticed a few days ago that Miraheze is now interrogating me with Cloudflare every couple hours(ish) to verify I'm human... I do that and then it's okay for a few hours, because it seems to remember... but no images will load, because static.wikitide.net does the same interrogation - when I directly click on the link to the image on the image's [15:43:46] [2/2] own page, after wikitide interrogates it will show me the image, but I cannot see any images in any wiki page...I know this is a browser issue, as it's fine in Firefox, but I use Supermium for most purposes [15:48:33] Drop an email to tech@miraheze.org with your ip [15:49:17] Thank you [16:11:51] Didn't we exempt static? [16:15:23] haven't gotten around to that yet, plus some rules would apply anyway [16:22:48] Is there a way to disable dark/night mode for my wiki [16:25:39] My css style already makes my wiki black and so its entire redundant and it messes up the colors [17:30:19] there should be a configuration value in managewiki/settings [17:47:34] hmm ok [18:20:51] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1479180814208995348 will anything change after the maintainance? [18:21:26] our virtualization host servers will be upgraded from debian 12 to debian 13 [18:22:14] what is the difference between them both? [18:23:09] more stuff, newer stuff [18:23:29] examples? [18:24:38] https://www.debian.org/releases/trixie/release-notes/whats-new.en.html [18:25:05] a lot of it doesn't mean direct concrete improvements to wikis but it does mean we'll be less likely to blow up from having old stuff [18:25:35] i have no idea what each of them means or functiond but i'll just make a guess that it's better [18:47:02] TL;DR: it's like moving between versions of windows or iOS - stay on an old version at your own peril. [18:47:52] (bigger security/instability risks as time goes on by not updating) [18:48:19] u say windows or iOS but both will update older versions for major security stuff [18:48:53] security updates do end at some point [18:49:13] we would have to upgrade at some point anyway so might as well do it now and perhaps get a few new cool features [18:49:51] the latter part is more true for when we upgrade other servers though [18:50:02] e.g mw* servers getting php 8.4 or something [18:50:49] its never going to be something like android 15 to 16 though, it aint gonna redesign the UI or give you flying abilities [19:05:48] -# in short let's just say that it'll make mira better [19:12:50] [1/2] We can stay on an old Debian release for 4 years and upgrade at once past 2 versions at the cost of a bigger and riskier upgrade. [19:12:50] [2/2] Same goes for the MW version. We can stay on LTS versions at the cost of not being able to get the latest and greatest features and extensions and potentially more things breaking in an upgrade. [19:13:13] [1/2] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T349562 [19:13:13] [2/2] And also subject us to nasty bugs like this when we only upgrade between LTS versions. [19:39:22] https://tenor.com/view/trixie-trixie-mlp-trixie-lulamoon-mlp-days-of-the-week-gif-9519979865111884390 [19:50:20] Just a reminder that the maintenance will start in 10 minutes and the scheduled window is 7 hours [19:51:06] i forgot we dont have announcements on IRC [19:54:41] Just to note during maintenance the relay to IRC will also go offline. [19:54:57] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MACFAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 [19:55:19] guess I will be the relay myself [19:55:36] That won't immediately happen though. [19:59:06] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqiWIx9KVKs [20:01:40] May Avakot bless the tech team [20:01:42] :PrayVakot: [20:01:45] and here we go!] [20:01:56] when is maint ending [20:01:56] thanks weird avocado people <3 [20:02:04] presumed end is in 7 hours [20:02:05] I think I saved just in time [20:02:09] 😩 [20:02:10] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407504500136607745/1479180814208995348 [20:02:26] yeah 7 hours or 03:00 UTC [20:02:36] bro i forgot about maintenance and made a big edit and it didn't save [20:02:40] Whats a lunar treath [20:02:46] ow [20:02:49] Sorry to hear [20:02:54] Rip [20:03:48] Question, who here uses Obsidian? I might need some help with it [20:03:56] If you click the back page button you may luck out and have the text box still there [20:04:26] i use devtools network, f5, and intercept the rePOSTed req there [20:04:39] um [20:04:40] nerd [20:04:52] OO [20:05:19] UI [20:05:28] water and lava combined makes it [20:05:45] then find iron and gravel [20:05:53] mine the gravel until you get don't [20:05:56] flint* [20:05:56] source blocks specifically lol [20:06:20] Haha yeah [20:06:31] I was asking about the notes app but thats still pretty funny [20:08:46] I've used it a few times but I don't think I could debug any issues with it [20:10:57] [1/2] I know the blue thing is supposed to be a gear or something mechanical but for some reason I keep reading this as the Miraheze logo pointing a gun at you 😭 [20:10:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1479209625743265813/Miraheze_maintenance_icon.png?ex=69ab34d1&is=69a9e351&hm=58563ccc19b3a0f3c4e6b920581689e24cb92daee12aad9f49d0a18b2d0251a8& [20:11:54] RIP relay [20:12:49] you're on your own now [20:13:14] i will relay any significant happenings here but its mostly gonna be users complaining [20:13:34] feel free to liberally ping me in case you need something communicated to discord [22:34:57] currently [22:34:57] To do 3 servers at once, original plan was one by one. But thanks to @paladox and @orduin also doing some we managed to make it go much faster. [22:35:00] Yay, the relay is alive! [22:35:03] ah oki <3 [22:35:05] anyway maintenances are just like that [22:35:19] yippee! [22:35:24] oh my god macfan can speak [22:35:26] welcome back [22:35:30] We are bringing things back online now. [22:35:41] he had no mouth but now he can speak [22:35:55] who the hell is @MirahezeRelay bruh [22:36:05] It's a relay to IRC [22:36:06] alternate universe [22:36:07] ⛓️‍💥💔 [22:36:12] but like why are they maintencing? [22:36:19] server upgrades [22:36:30] updating servers to a new major version [22:36:31] usually to clear cookies, updating, and etc [22:36:36] ah heck, I missed the opportunity to speak when relay was dead [22:36:36] OS upgrades to our servers that host things [22:36:50] until next time, I suppose [22:36:55] Clear cookies does not cause site maintenance for a few hours [22:37:01] true... [22:37:13] Cookies are a client side thing anyway [22:37:28] maintenance is usually for upgrading anyway [22:37:34] MirahezeRelay is a bot, you can tell from the [APP] tag after their logo. The bot echos (or reposts) messages from the Miraheze IRC, or internet relay chat room. [22:37:49] I literally said what it was for [22:37:51] wow i cant believe someone explained it to me [22:37:58] And I'm a volunteer in the infrastructure team [22:38:06] The ones who maintain them lovely servers [22:38:07] yeah and i included it in the usual things [22:38:27] are you allowed to keep your own version of wikis hosted privately in my intranet with the wikiteam3dumpgenerator tool? [22:38:38] what rhinos is trying to say is that you should let volunteers answer some questions [22:38:41] Yes [22:38:52] nice, thanks!! [22:39:12] why is @MirahezeRelay dead [22:39:19] It is not dead [22:39:31] we provide XML dumps via Special:ImportDump btw, should be faster and wont send so many queries to our servers [22:39:48] okay then ill stop for now [22:39:50] We get creatures on Discord asking if anyone speaking through bridge to Zulip is an AI bot and it's kinda funny. [22:39:52] relay is not dead who said that [22:39:58] uhh, is there a way to convert it back to browsable html5? [22:40:03] me.... [22:40:14] same way you do with wikiteam3dumpgenerator [22:40:27] they are practically identical [22:40:59] You could in theory back actual html5 up using the rest API if you did it very slowly so we don't ban you for affecting resources too [22:41:23] Nah, i dont want to crawl webpages, i want to archive it how yall intend it to. [22:41:24] Anyway I go to bed before I come up with more ideas future me will find cursed [22:41:33] eepy [22:42:22] good night!! [22:43:02] and we're back online! [22:43:12] woohoo!! [22:43:57] 🎉 [22:43:58] https://tenor.com/view/real-gif-12105952299330467229 [22:44:49] i dont want to host a mediawiki myself, i just want browsable html5 [22:45:13] Fantastic job to the tech team, thank you for taking care of all of us. 🫂 [22:47:08] w maintenance team✌️ [22:47:46] maintenance so good i can die [22:48:14] we back? [22:48:28] yessir [22:48:50] shi was rapid [22:49:16] almost like they know what they are doing [22:49:27] https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267 [22:49:31] what a very pessimistic downtime est [22:50:09] better to overestimate than to underestimate with maintenance [22:50:15] would you prefer it pleasantly takes much less time than anticipated or would you rather we say it'll last 2 hours and it lasts 50 [22:50:40] I want a 2 minute maintenence window that turns into db141 [22:51:06] beating projected times by half is impressive ig [22:51:12] some browser maintenances take too long that i am not dying [22:51:30] but yea long projections better [22:52:00] hi im new here what should i do? [22:52:49] very open-ended question, what do you want to do? [22:53:10] you will surrender your current hobbies and train for 2 years to become the next carry-steward of miraheze [22:53:19] nothing rlly [22:53:28] you will sell your soul to miraheze [22:53:30] i thought we were gonna do that with pix [22:53:32] and then [22:53:32] donate to miraheze [22:53:35] you volunteer [22:53:40] then [22:53:44]