[00:03:12] [1/2] although actually now I'm double checking through I noticed you did this; you can fix it by beginning the line with ⁨`#:`⁩ instead of just ⁨`:`⁩ [00:03:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468396437531525204/image.png?ex=6983de40&is=69828cc0&hm=645025dfc53477c6ffc57bacdb509067b32b4a66f97fe3dd47bba30086c75d51& [00:06:14] just make sure to do some previewing of your edits first, I have absolutely no idea how translating gets done so no clue how difficult that is though [00:20:22] Is there a way to change the outline color of text so that a brighter text color is more visible in light mode? [01:11:35] [1/3] I might have just locked myself out of my own wiki editing wise. [01:11:35] [2/3] I was trying to make it to where only moderators could edit the wiki since the game for this is gonna be pretty big [01:11:36] [3/3] How do I get my own perms back 😭 [01:12:10] HELP, [01:12:44] I removed all non-viewing perms from users and despite me owning the wiki I locked myself out wtf kind of security system is that [01:14:49] You'll need to add the relevant user group to yourself. [01:22:08] how do I do that? [01:30:02] Off the top of my head I can't remember. One of the Special: pages, I think. [01:54:03] You can manage group permissions via the Special:ManageWiki/permissions page, which will also show up as a link on your wiki as 'manage this wiki's permissions. [01:54:31] If your wiki is set to private and/or you removed too many rights from your group, you'll need steward assistance to reset it [02:11:58] If you aren't able to resolve it yourself with the above instructions, please leave us a note at [[SR/M]], including the URL of your wiki. [02:11:58] [02:30:48] Done, ty [02:31:26] [1/2] its also not showing me anything for the captcha [02:31:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468433740375003301/image.png?ex=698400fd&is=6982af7d&hm=c0c0e71e2a6c4f7417fbed6653cc9308c14de11e3019f36bb54463dfe7f961fe& [02:39:37] This is probably a visual editor issue. Use the "edit source" tab instead of the "edit" tab. [02:40:09] Perhaps we should disable VE by default on Meta. Most people don't use it, and it tends to mess up the formatting on SR pages. AFAIK we can disable `$wmgVisualEditorEnableDefault` and then enable `$wgVisualEditorUseSingleEditTab`. [02:40:34] We still get parsoid and discussion tools, but users won't see VE unless they explicitly enable it in preferences. [02:41:25] could I just ask somebody in dms to avoid the hassle, [02:41:31] wait hangon [02:42:00] p sure DT has that bug [02:42:11] and not VE, unless things changed since i last looked at it [02:43:31] [1/2] ok got it, ty [02:43:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468436782948552768/image.png?ex=698403d3&is=6982b253&hm=326c20513117c5ae195645091344ca0148941d9fe0a3e1148c676a6764a5d2df& [02:43:45] Ah never mind then. [02:44:10] It does amaze me that we still have VE available when almost all experienced editors don't like/use it. [02:46:50] [1/2] I think I'm encountering this SR page bug again. Edit section -> make some changes -> click save -> no signature prompt appears -> save anyway -> nothing changes on the page and the new revision doesn't appear in page history. [02:46:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468437614678904923/image.png?ex=69840499&is=6982b319&hm=2095e87c6bab5f8b1875f42b3e64d53e44299684f0c743e7ca55b35d609f3a36& [02:49:11] This drives me insane [02:49:41] shadowedit [02:49:58] What specture of byte bitchery keeps eating my damn SR submissions [02:53:29] I don't have my usual machine to get into greylog right now. Last time I checked there were no MediaWiki error logs. [02:54:11] API editors (e.g. https://github.com/inpageedit/inpageedit-next) still work and that's the workaround I used before [02:54:24] Work took a lot longer than expected today. Time for me to work on the fundraiser counter update [02:54:50] Yay! I love seeing numbers go up. [02:55:07] Alright, just so we're crisp - which group should have edit permissions? [02:55:18] [1/2] * is everyone [02:55:18] [2/2] Users is logged-in users only [02:55:54] The wiki is not private, so you definitely have adequate permissions to do this yourself, but happy to help as a courtesy. πŸ™‚ [02:56:06] Mmm i dont know [02:56:09] Just moderators for the wiki [02:56:16] How can I set people as moderators actually? [02:56:19] This infamously affects RfXHelper too [02:56:32] Special:UserRights, then add the person's name [02:56:32] [[Special:UserRights]] on your wiki [02:56:33] [02:56:39] [1/2] Ok, bet [02:56:39] [2/2] Ty! [02:56:46] I win (by 0.0002 seconds)! [02:58:54] So, just to note - since ONLY the moderator group now has edit rights, you'll either want to add moderator to yourself on top of existing roles, or add edit rights to the bureaucrat role as well [02:58:57] how can I actually set a new person as the owner of the wiki? [02:59:06] Alright, will do! [02:59:14] You lost on my discord client lol. I think your message is shown as sent on your local client before it reaches the server. [02:59:21] That is the bureaucrat role but be careful. [02:59:42] Once you've granted the role, it's more complicated to remove from another person if you want to do so later. [02:59:51] And it gives them very deep controls over the wiki's function [03:00:44] I'm gonna be giving it to the original owner of the Fandom wiki after he makes an acc on Miraheze, dw [03:04:27] Awesome, if they've managed the fandom wiki a good bit, they should be able to help on some of the more administrative stuff in getting set up. [03:10:35] $3,042.02 [03:19:45] In the first 30 hours we have raised 12% of this year’s goal and 58% of what was raised in the 2023 fundraiser [03:24:22] [1/2] Hiii!! I'm so chummed to have found Miraheze and that it's so easy to make your own wiki. I'm interested in making one for a roleplay I'm doing with a worldbuilding of a country, but I'm technologically stunted and it seems I have not much of an intuition for web development type things. Does anyone have any recommendations for where to start once you've opened a wiki, specifically if [03:24:22] [2/2] basic templates exist for core pages like a main page? [03:28:04] feel free to flame me though if this is a total rookie question though because I really am not sure where to start, but the main page makes the most sense to me? [03:32:01] [1/3] Welcome to MH, it's not a rookie/bad question at all - main page is nerve-wracking sometimes because you want it to look good to newcomers [03:32:01] [2/3] I don't know of any main page templates offhand (others might), but I always start first with thinking about what I want on the front page, then how to show it - often, you may not need a template, since main page info may not be replicated across pages. Different wikis have different things on their front pages, too, depending on what's important to the community! Community art, [03:32:02] [3/3] the amount of wiki pages, editor's guides, stream dates, patch notes... You can take a look around at some wikis to get a feel for it. This guide is also really helpful: [03:32:19] And this: [03:33:02] Dev wiki has a lot of templates that can be imported to your wiki as well, if you need them: [03:33:52] I want to try out the table filtering one: [03:34:30] Ah ok thank you so much! I will check these out, especially the html and css one's they seem super helpful [03:35:46] For sure 😀 Our wiki was a Fandom import so the customisation guide was a must-have for me when changing up skins [03:37:32] This is truly the goal!, to make a page with a table of statistics of administrative subdivisions like you see on wikipedia, where the viewer is able to sort the table themselves based on what statistics they want to see [03:39:17] Exactly, that's a great use case for it 😈 [03:51:50] Omg how do you delete a page [03:52:12] I accidentally made a page on the developer wiki instead of my own wiki (i didn't notice the difference at all I am cooked) [03:54:21] You can't delete pages on wikis you're not am admin [03:54:43] I'll see it cleaned it up, don't worry [03:54:54] Omg thank you so much [03:55:02] Course mate [03:55:03] I'm so sorry for the trouble!! [03:55:23] I'll drop a notice to the Dev Wiki admins, I can delete myself but iffy on authority [03:55:30] it's okay, it's like a couple of button presses ^^; [03:55:31] I've an unbeatable track record for making these kinds of mistakes [03:55:38] Baaah no worries, it's a few clicks [03:56:37] ok thank you soo much [03:56:44] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Montgovia [03:56:47] ^this is the one [03:58:02] Thank you sooo much!! You all are really running a tight ship, I'm so impressed with how speedy that was done thank you! [03:58:06] So sorry for the trouble [03:58:22] I have learned my lesson 🫑 [03:58:41] We all did dumb as f stuff when we were learning man [03:58:51] Looord knows I did [03:59:12] You'll mess up, and that's fine, you'll learn [04:00:06] if i were to delete that page, the slowest and hardest thing that i'd have to do is to login to my staff account lol [04:00:31] In ten years when I have made a hostile takeover of wikipedia.google.com, I won't forget all of your help and kindness during the genesis [04:00:51] que? [04:01:36] in the sense that you have really helped out a newcomer [04:02:13] ah oki [04:10:07] [1/2] Forgot to say that I tagged it for deletion for you. [04:10:07] [2/2] I did the exact same thing on Meta a few months ago. [04:11:04] i've done the opposite: writing a whole new page for meta, and accidentally closing the tab before i hit save [04:40:22] You say that but I did basically the same thing in another wiki farm last week [04:41:51] Pretty much me when I broke my wiki's CSS twice one time. 😭 [04:45:05] shoutout to that time when i made a PR to mw-config with a syntax error [04:46:56] πŸŽ‰ [06:30:20] <18.748.837.46> [1/2] https://thecrisiswars.miraheze.org/wiki/Revolutionary_Command_Council [06:30:20] <18.748.837.46> [2/2] This is weird. The image is loading, but loading incorrectly [06:32:05] <18.748.837.46> [1/2] this is how it looks on my end, tested with two different browsers (edge and chrome). its lacking parts of the flag in the middle, if I'm not missing anything else [06:32:05] <18.748.837.46> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468494303755243583/image.png?ex=69843965&is=6982e7e5&hm=6aa1c4fc5d4fbf0312afa2e41f10b109bfc6aded17b6ccacf60851d2deb530f8& [06:43:56] lo [08:09:26] Would it be acceptable to request a wiki whose existence might be temporary? [08:49:15] Yes, although we prefer it long term. But in some cases, for example a class project we do accept that. [08:50:45] Other cases, where it's used to prank others with a fake profile, or for testing wiki functionality, we decline [08:51:26] Testing can be done on [[mh:testwiki:]] by the way [08:51:33] [08:52:04] So it depends what it is for. [09:07:10] oi, so im new to the wiki, how do I create new pages? [09:11:29] nvm i found out how to do so [09:11:32] mb [09:12:24] You can read up the basics at [[w:Help:Editing]] [09:12:24] [09:13:27] ty [09:27:35] Di i really need to add /translate to every page? [09:27:55] Yes [09:28:01] Amazing [09:29:38] There are many reasons you might not want certain pages or parts of a page translated [09:29:46] Hence why tags have to be added [09:30:00] I have 600 pages [09:30:49] Id rather just reject translations that edit transclusions [09:32:10] Also how long does it take for a new language to appear on the languages top bar? [09:32:31] Its translated but doesn't show up there [09:36:18] It should show up as soon as the page is at least partially translated [09:36:28] Maybe a few minutes at most [09:36:39] Its been like 30 [09:36:52] Someone else translated and I reviewed it [09:36:58] That's unusual [09:37:24] Its all translated in the translation ui, but not showing up anywhere else [09:38:05] [1/2] Hellooo I've just got my own wiki and am currently setting up the categories. Now, I named a category "season1" before realizing I want to change it to "Season 1". I deleted the page, made a new "Season 1" category, but now "season1" shows up in categories as a red link. Is there a way to get rid of it completely? I've read about a cleanup script which could work for it but it seems [09:38:05] [2/2] like you can't run terminal commands on Miraheze [09:38:18] Also had lots of annoying empty moderation notifications [09:39:15] Request replace textures extension [09:39:32] On steward requests [09:39:59] With that extension you can replace every mention of something into something else in bulk [09:40:19] Otherwise yes you'll need to change every red link manually [09:41:48] Check Special:BrokenRedirects [09:45:48] The page i translated myself works [09:47:18] It says there are no results [09:47:36] I think there are no pages linking to "season1" actually [09:47:50] Then you fixed all the broken links, congrats [09:48:28] Oh categories have a different special page i think [09:48:55] WantedCategories [09:49:36] A list of all special pages is at Special:SpecialPages [09:53:13] Okay good, but is there a way to remove the red link from the categories special page or is that just gonna stay there? [09:53:56] The special page will show a page for as long as it has a red link on it [09:59:13] Done my dolly, sent 2$! [09:59:52] Special:WhatLinksHere could be useful [10:01:33] Now it's rejecting even my own edits [10:01:42] Is it because it's the main page? [10:01:59] Link? [10:02:10] I'm pms [10:11:34] rodejong: I'm aiming to migrate a screwturnwiki to mediawiki. Though the work is mostly structural, it's kind of hard on labor. We need to establish a new wiki structure using the template system, so it wouldn't be convenient to use the testing wiki for that purpose. If the migration is successful, it may be that the editors of the current wiki may not want to be reliant on a third party hoster. [10:15:32] Yeah that is a lot of work indeed. Hang on while I confer with the other Wiki reviewers [10:19:38] Will you be hosting your wiki with us after that? [10:20:31] You have the ability to request the wiki already, and keep it privat until the conversion of all pages are done. [10:20:39] It's not linked anywhere, whatlinkshere shows nothing [10:22:51] Hmmm. Not sure, but I've seen McFan recreate my translated pages on meta. Although I translated my Dutch translation directly. [10:22:52] whao this looks awesome [10:24:02] wait i think it has something to do with dark mode/light mode compatibility or something... i don't know [10:25:18] where is this happening? [10:26:15] [1/2] Which wiki? [10:26:15] [2/2] conformitygate.miraheze.org [10:26:28] the specific page, please [10:27:37] Which page? [10:28:23] i mean i would assume you know where the season1 shows up as a red link [10:28:27] the specific page with the red text that says "season1" [10:29:16] Oh no sorry I didn't clarify it then, it shows up in special:Categories as a red link [10:29:37] I think you still have ⁨`[[Category:Season1]]`⁩ in the articles [10:29:52] You would need to change them too as ⁨`[[Category:Season 1]]`⁩ [10:30:08] Ah... [10:30:13] That is the cache [10:30:27] It will disappear soon enough [10:31:21] what ro said [10:31:25] what are categories used for? πŸ€” [10:31:37] To group pages together [10:31:40] Ok so I just wait it'll go away? [10:31:48] Yes. [10:32:07] That is slow cache though, sometimes it's there for a week or so [10:32:41] ah like... folders ? [10:32:48] Yes [10:33:12] Nice, thanks so much for your help everyone!!! [10:33:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:Global_policies [10:34:08] For example, we have a "folder" with all our policies. [10:34:35] Each page in that folder, has a ⁨`[[Category:Global policies]]`⁩ at the bottom (or top) [10:34:52] i see very nice :) [10:34:56] That way it is easy to find similar articles [10:35:39] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Category [10:36:35] If you want more to read about it that is πŸ˜‰ [10:37:15] Also since I'm here already, when do you use categories and when do you use namespaces? [10:37:27] Like is there some guidelines for it? [10:37:35] I mean custom namespaces, so for sorting information [10:37:50] there are some cool use cases for namespaces [10:38:20] for example if you are documenting 2 games and both have the same map or stuff, you could do something like "Game1:Hunter" & "Game2:Hunter" [10:38:45] for categories i use it just for dynamic page list lol [10:41:59] We can run terminal commands for you [10:42:10] It should fix itself relatively quickly [10:42:37] It's not really a cache. Links is a background update. [10:45:55] We have no issues with this. [10:46:11] You can request the wiki. [10:51:30] Ok good to know [10:52:34] thanks :) I'll do so. If not today, tomorrow. [10:53:45] Another question, actually: is there a way to make it so that if you open a new page there's automatically a few things in it? I'm thinking like a heading "overview", one for "sources" etc so there is a clear structre [11:14:41] <.subaero> [1/2] Okay hi i know i just joined, and im reading faq and it is NOT helping 😭😭 or at least if it is, i dont understand it [11:14:41] <.subaero> [2/2] How do i give access to other people to edit my wiki? Im also doing this on mobile so please beware [11:15:49] Step one: ditch the smartphone and use a computer. :P [11:17:34] <.subaero> I genuinely would but i have no income to do so [11:18:03] You need to add their account to the member group of your wiki. See: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_add_a_user_to_a_private_wiki [11:18:50] If your wiki isn't private, all they need is an account. [11:20:21] <.subaero> :skate_ponder: ill bother them to make an account and just hope they know more of miraheze than i do.... And maybe they'll have a pc lol [11:27:10] orrr you could tell them to switch to desktop view by scrolling all the way down of you have MobileFrontend extension enabled (its enabled by default) [11:35:46] Then delete the link that is leaked to the old "season1" page [11:49:47] please do not answer questions that have already been answered, this may lead to more confusion [11:50:02] the issue at hand is the links table being slow to update, for some reason [11:51:25] [1/4] You can make a Template page with all the basics on them, like ⁨`Template:Default page`⁩ [11:51:25] [2/4] Then on a new page you can use:`{{subst:Default page}}` and save it. [11:51:26] [3/4] It will place all the content from the template on the Article page. [11:51:26] [4/4] You can then edit the page with adding the page specific content [13:36:29] pretty sure there's no preview button, you have to do the edit, then check the page that was translated and see what was done [13:41:35] yeah there is no previewing for translations [13:43:15] tabberneue breaks translations [13:44:31] How are so many simple and long established basic website feature so hard to implement in one of the most popular forms of website [13:46:14] [1/2] Want tabs to switch between views? FU try 50 workarounds and incompatibility with any other feature, [13:46:15] [2/2] Want to only link to pages that exist? FU 250 is the limit no matter what. [13:46:18] Rant over [13:46:52] I've never experienced this [13:54:57] mediawiki and translate are maintained by wmf and tabberneue is not, that's why [13:56:34] wmf generally does their own thing anyway [13:59:20] Any way to add tabs without tabber? [13:59:57] diy with js i guess? [14:02:26] messing with collapsibles also works [14:04:13] WMF can maintain something? [14:12:53] [1/2] Try this? (Uses custom JS) [14:12:54] [2/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Tab [14:28:21] ah right. still, pls fix the formatting on [[FAQ/vi]] [14:28:22] [14:28:47] you can do it yourself if the language itself hasn't changed [14:30:08] yeah but I'm not the one asking for permanent translator rights [14:31:14] #facts #owned [14:49:58] yeah doing it - i'm just busy and stressed [14:50:11] they already asked of me 10 hours of my time on studies yet they ask for more bruh [14:53:19] should be fixed now @thewwrnerdguy [14:54:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468620675744006281/5FA93655-50D0-4416-AC00-4CE002FFED34.png?ex=6984af16&is=69835d96&hm=29901ffc0541ab079e78544e3036138e045c188b87be4068d0bd58c40196d49b& [14:54:53] [1/2] looks like this for me [14:54:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468620834011877673/image.png?ex=6984af3c&is=69835dbc&hm=24d2e15ea1ab4e1850927a4ac0052b009a749026576c822fdc00d25b07a66f86& [14:55:13] [1/2] also this one still is a bit off [14:55:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468620920041242666/image.png?ex=6984af50&is=69835dd0&hm=b7ab5fcbf65e476e2d030c1de32cf666dfa9d6351aa6c8d56bb0f8b74accc55a& [14:55:43] damn that's rough [14:55:58] [1/2] hmm [14:55:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468621109284049018/6DA55FA9-58FF-42E6-8017-1F6F7980A2DA.png?ex=6984af7e&is=69835dfe&hm=526e4f6d2a562bcb9f2a293f90fd25cc7c393fee544af916c56de07bcac9bbc8& [14:56:04] I could never have managed that [14:56:56] [1/2] oh it looks like this when I used ::, when I used #: it breaks [14:56:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468621354742841435/878F3EBC-2AB6-4B31-8B14-158F7C3FEE4C.png?ex=6984afb8&is=69835e38&hm=e71abd574144a1d3ea541c0aef5ab23b544cd8e5be7ae7047ca105a1d18bd2dd& [14:57:02] the page looks fine as is [14:59:35] [1/2] this is what happened when i added #: in @thewwrnerdguy [14:59:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468622016939688164/31205DA9-4F33-44FF-87AF-E3ABD4FE0612.png?ex=6984b056&is=69835ed6&hm=aea662214c9fd3b19dda53847e73d4008d0eaf0969e9f89f305f2c92a60ccae1& [14:59:54] I meant add in `#:` here [15:01:02] huh? where in this image? [15:01:13] like at the start of the T or the 1 [15:01:15] i'm confused [15:01:52] [1/2] what section you're talking about [15:01:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468622592813305993/76330AAE-D1E8-4383-B15F-027B2904EF46.png?ex=6984b0df&is=69835f5f&hm=4a1f3efd24cf688b1155957debd19f6bcad486efee16b9fa724ec491078ff5f0& [15:02:17] [1/2] oh this [15:02:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468622699973836904/17B10D16-C527-4F92-80C1-D34422DF9D77.png?ex=6984b0f9&is=69835f79&hm=30f38dbedae950d57f07ea63f74b659aab30430ee70f2320ed8ecd5bbd9ea5bb& [15:02:20] yeah i am dumb [15:04:30] I seriously hate wikitext sometimes, it's very confusing after attempting to fix [15:05:08] [1/2] this is default without tl note [15:05:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468623416629264516/EE0B2BF8-9E57-4EC3-928C-BA34B80825D7.png?ex=6984b1a4&is=69836024&hm=7bbdaa9ea54337889008b27e22e571768a9e533b86edf33f4b95b3c4ef693880& [15:05:53] I seriously underestimated how annoying translations were too lol [15:05:59] lol [15:06:05] [1/2] should be good now? [15:06:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468623655495008286/6447A7E3-0BE2-4894-83EF-021BFC579191.png?ex=6984b1dd&is=6983605d&hm=b110a43008aee7d40db68c6f30992bdd97ebe5746c91c94195473661705fdac6& [15:06:14] after having a little bit of an edit war with myself, i suppose [15:06:44] no i can't put in a bullet point as i can't edit that [15:06:51] I thought I was maybe kinda being a bit harsh with categorically saying no to translations on the Battle Cats wiki but now I've seen this I think my distaste was 100% deserved [15:17:09] yeah looks good. I was deliberately being a bit annoying to see if you could fix this by yourself but you've managed to do that and I think you now know that you need to preview translated pages just to make sure there are no weird formatting quirks [15:17:53] yeah, definitely annoying, I prefer it auto previews in the translation extension but i suppose going to the page and section directly yourself is forced [15:18:14] but idm as long you don't waste my time for nothing, i've already too stressed out lol [15:18:57] good luck with studing and that [16:05:07] works well until i try to
[16:10:24] had to make it a template [16:10:50] Oh, am I responding to an AI in the review process? I'm so confused. [16:11:41] An AI will do a first look, if it doesn't approve or deny your request it goes to human review [16:12:17] This is done bc there's just not enough manpower to do every single request with humans atm [16:13:18] hey so, how exactly does the Tabber work? like i understand it adds those side stuff of links but how does it work? [16:14:10] rn im checking the Template:Tab page but im not understanding much [16:16:09] It's just : "please point out specifically the thing". Makes me confused because it's in the link I provided originally. Then it asks about the OGL v1.0a, which is basically an open license "do what you want so long my company's name is mentionned". Then I realized it was an AI. [16:24:04] it throws SO MANY sticks and stones in your way [16:24:17] not it doesnt recognize {{!}} [16:24:22] im losing it [16:24:29] What [16:24:34] nvm that [16:25:19] So uh, how do I add pages on the side categories (like where "Content" and "Main Pages" are) [16:25:30] Is it not with Tabs? [16:25:44] nah thats a special page [16:25:48] or java script [16:26:38] https://tenor.com/view/memes-smashing-pc-breaking-keyboard-radge-gif-26483855 [16:27:55] MediaWiki:Sidebar on your wiki [16:28:18] Bet [16:28:58] Do I just...select the pages and it appears? Can I create new categories on the sidebar? I'm not on my PC rn [16:29:26] youll see how its done on that site [16:29:45] Alr [16:30:35] any ideas how to make tabs conditional? [16:30:37] [1/2] My internet is slow as hell [16:30:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468644929969459210/fc4226008b19de017d07f4b4782d839a.png?ex=6984c5ad&is=6983742d&hm=c77c2c84cd42e19ae98c52e1b26f53d1fd1be09905d818416de52d0a0e4dde84& [16:30:58] passing it {{!}} isnt recognized [16:31:15] u tell me m8 [16:32:41] ? I think you need to post an example of what you're trying to do [16:33:22] there will be a short maintenace on our mediawiki servers, you may see an error for short periods of time [16:33:33] [1/2] {{Tab| [16:33:33] [2/2] {{#if:true|Tab1{{!}}Message1{{!}}}} [16:33:56] (not announcement worthy since it is very likely all will run smoothly) [16:34:51] GOD DAMN, I GOT FLASHBANGED [16:35:09] why is the default theme for the MediaWiki damn light mode 😭 [16:36:25] cause they realized too late that dark mode is a thing and for some reason never made "based on OS settings" the default [16:37:03] https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-camus-philosophy-gif-27655787 [16:37:32] This is wikimedia we are talking about [16:37:50] They didn't gaf until now [16:37:51] wmf does what wmf does [16:38:05] WMF does [16:38:26] it's a rather mature ecosystem so you don't get much reinventing the wheel these days [16:40:01] We should reinvent it [16:40:12] good luck [16:40:38] isnt it like, place wheel with extra stuff on a running river, boom energy [16:41:32] So, a suggestion for the AI review bot : make it clear that it's an assistant, that it's automated, and that the requests it makes may not make sense. You could prepend the following to its replies : "Hello, I'm the helpful review assistant. I have found several potential issues with your submission, please address them as best as you can." [16:42:12] whats the TOOLBOX in the MediaWiki:Sidebar? Like the SEARCH is the search stuff next to the "logo" of the wiki [16:42:43] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468647971695497459/image.png?ex=6984c882&is=69837702&hm=f7aa647a639846cc1402128a3e48aff36448383ec81adf73f6f78eb5a5d7000f& [16:42:50] (location of this depends on the skin) [16:43:27] ah... [16:43:32] so i should keep it, got it [16:43:43] WHY ARE YOU IN LIGHT MODE THO MY EYES [16:44:09] https://tenor.com/view/skull-emoji-me-when-rasputin-dying-skeleton-skeleton-meme-skeleton-turning-to-ash-gif-26000244 [16:44:17] you should use `{{#tag:}}` https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Magic_words#Miscellaneous:~:text=%7B%7B%23tag%3Atagname%0A%7Ccontent%0A%7Cattribute1%3Dvalue1%0A%7Cattribute2%3Dvalue2%0A%7D%7D [16:44:47] [1/9] Example: [16:44:47] [2/9] ``` [16:44:47] [3/9] {{#vardefine:flag1|}}{{#vardefine:flag2|1}} [16:44:47] [4/9] {{#tag:tabber| [16:44:48] [5/9] {{#if:{{#var:flag1}}|{{!}}-{{!}}Tab 1{{=}}Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}} [16:44:48] [6/9] {{#if:{{#var:flag2}}|{{!}}-{{!}}Tab 2{{=}}Cheese bacon and ham}} [16:44:48] [7/9] {{!}}-{{!}}Default tab{{=}}I am content [16:44:49] [8/9] }} [16:44:49] [9/9] ``` [16:45:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468648609812709529/image.png?ex=6984c91a&is=6983779a&hm=059341a347f6788642264d89e088544e48d96fdb07ae92cb87b5da1c482bf729& [16:48:03] thank you nut ive just retired tabber(neue) because its breaking the translation extension [16:48:29] so im using [[dev:Tab]] [16:48:32] [16:49:53] hence my frustration because no matter what i try something somewhere breaks unrecoverably [16:51:37] Check status πŸ˜‰ [16:55:10] Not gonna lis [16:55:57] Then don't [16:56:14] [1/12] Try [16:56:14] [2/12] ``` [16:56:14] [3/12] {{#vardefine:flag1|1}}{{#vardefine:flag2}} [16:56:15] [4/12] {{Tab [16:56:15] [5/12] {{#if:{{#var:flag1}}|{{!}}Tab 1}} [16:56:15] [6/12] {{#if:{{#var:flag1}}|{{!}}Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet}} [16:56:16] [7/12] {{#if:{{#var:flag2}}|{{!}}Tab 2}} [16:56:16] [8/12] {{#if:{{#var:flag2}}|{{!}}Cheese bacon and ham}} [16:56:16] [9/12] |Default tab [16:56:17] [10/12] |I am content [16:56:17] [11/12] }} [16:56:17] [12/12] ``` [16:56:23] While Fandom is a horrible company, I still have to agree that both FandomDesktop and FandomMobile are good skins, if we exclude both ADs and horrivle decision making that is [16:56:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468651437134188544/image.png?ex=6984cbbc&is=69837a3c&hm=40275fc7ec056d6293a7b275f5bee82e99714b434c378d4cf1e9fdadb6a65a60& [16:56:30] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308252788555513933/1459261214361387266/giphy.gif [16:59:30] [1/2] nope is straight up interprets {{!}} as string instead of using it as | [16:59:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468652196341219461/image.png?ex=6984cc71&is=69837af1&hm=7242d9c0e112246d422bfc49e670b0d64ce479f3bfd4aace701d278cdfc573d4& [17:10:27] You should try testing your template output in Special:ExpandTemplates first. I'm guessing something went wrong when you wraped `{{Tab}}` into another template/div/parser tag. [17:22:20] rodejong: Thanks :) [17:27:38] either your screen brightness is too high or you're writing this in a dark room at 3am or probably both [17:28:26] it's not that hard to turn down the brightness or have some backlighting [17:28:27] Yo chat wanna see me fry myself? [17:34:32] We ain't the right crowd for that I'm afraid [17:35:25] nor is it the right channel unless if by "frying yourself" you mean "messing up with a template" [17:37:29] No I mean this (gimme a sec) [17:37:33] https://tenor.com/view/cirno-gaming-cirno-gaming-fumo-touhou-gif-25772904 [17:37:40] Wait wrong [17:37:44] https://tenor.com/view/thanos-compelling-didnt-ask-dont-gif-24737803 [17:38:00] Bruh there's a bug rn [17:38:09] Mb if there's mods [17:39:48] Ok fixed [17:39:54] https://tenor.com/view/cirno-cirno-fumo-touhou-airfry-gif-25575274 [17:40:05] And the embed failed [17:40:07] I think you have no reason to post these gifs [17:40:13] Yeah... [17:40:16] I'll delete all that [17:40:40] Sorry mod [17:44:26] To expand on that: this is the support channel for the Miraheze wiki farm, with tens of thousands of wikis hosted on multiple topics [17:45:02] There's probably an audience for those gifs, but you might want to find another more purpose-specific place to put them. πŸ™‚ [17:45:13] Yes sir [18:08:42] Managed to work around everything as much as I could but one problem remains: translated pages can't be transcluded [18:08:55] It was all for nothing [18:11:25] I put the wiki in private. But is it possible to have it readonly for everybody but approved members? [18:11:35] Private seems to restrict everything. [18:13:10] you want everyone to read but only approved people to edit? [18:13:47] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_manage_who_can_edit_my_wiki [18:15:01] Should I disable the "private" first? [18:15:08] in core [18:15:32] yeah, I think the skins by themselves are fine [18:15:42] yes [18:15:48] it's the ads, bloat, pseudo-ads, and recommendations that make it unbearable [18:16:21] but vector with pretty colors (like on wiki.gg, Weird Gloop, and some mh wikis that have a theme ofc) will be my fav type of skin/wiki look [18:55:19] There is a way to do this, but it's not recommended. [18:55:46] Skye's way is a better way to go [19:24:59] [1/6] ⁨``` [19:24:59] [2/6] {{Tab [19:24:59] [3/6] |1=Title 1 [19:25:00] [4/6] |2=
Test/div [19:25:00] [5/6] }} [19:25:00] [6/6] ```⁩ [19:26:17] I've put it in a template [19:27:56] Leave the title empty. Note that it will also hide all remaining tabs. I need to do a proper implementation of that at some point. [19:31:17] I've ended up showing the whole thing and make the content conditional [19:48:24] Is there a way to get better/custom fonts on my wiki? [20:09:53] You're welcome [20:14:30] You can easily "inject" them via JS/CSS, just get the file as a Base64 string and shove it in there, unsure if this is the recommended way(or if it's a security flaw) but that's how we handle custom fonts [20:15:30] Interesting [20:16:27] you can do stuff like this https://wiki.avakot.org/Ode%27n_Language [20:18:53] [1/2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Reference/At-rules/@font-face [20:18:54] [2/2] @ahappyoreo cc ^ [20:19:08] you put that in your common.css [20:20:43] Oh, that's nice, we have a repository that auto-compiles the common.js/css so multiple wiki admins can work at the same time though, we kinda did the fonts by just auto-encoding them if they're inside the fonts directory in the repo into the CSS/JS directly, but that's nice [20:21:17] [1/14] See, I tried this: [20:21:17] [2/14] ```wiki [20:21:18] [3/14] @font-face { [20:21:18] [4/14] font-family: 'UnifrakturCook'; [20:21:18] [5/14] font-style: normal; [20:21:19] [6/14] font-weight: 700; [20:21:19] [7/14] src: url('https://fonts.gstatic.com/s/unifrakturcook/v25/IurA6Yli8YOdcoky-0PTTdkm56n05Xwy1oM.woff2') [20:21:19] [8/14] format('woff2'); [20:21:20] [9/14] font-display: swap; [20:21:20] [10/14] } [20:21:20] [11/14] .unifraktur { [20:21:21] [12/14] font-family: 'UnifrakturCook', serif; [20:21:21] [13/14] }``` [20:21:22] [14/14] But that didn't seem to work because the .woff2 file wouldn't load (I imagine for security reasons) [20:23:14] [1/2] That's how we did it, the compiler converts the .ttf/.otf files into base64, and we have a module to call for the specific fonts, it's not clean, but works alright. [20:23:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468703469526323210/message.txt?ex=6984fc32&is=6983aab2&hm=7ea19330597a587123d6b6ff476d27fe8992378e462afad0a9eb73f3c78a55be& [20:26:12] I don't want custom fonts that bad, lol [20:27:22] Never mind, that is now all the sudden working. [20:27:44] JS/CSS changes take a bit to get working, that's relevant to note lol [20:32:35] The part that threw me off was that I was getting a "failed to load" in the Network tools before. [20:32:47] So I figured it was more than just "takes a few minutes" [21:08:27] Hey quick check just so I understood the copyright rules correctly: screenshots from a TV series are not allowed on miraheze, or are there exceptions? [21:09:52] Fair use rules would apply [21:10:28] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use [21:14:13] [1/2] https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Fonts [21:14:14] [2/2] Download the font and host it on the wiki if it's blocked by the CSP [21:16:12] I'm unfamiliar with how to do that. [21:16:41] you would upload the woff2 file like any other [21:18:41] [1/2] `Permitted file types: djvu, gif, ico, jpeg, jpg, ogg, pdf, png, svg, webp.` [21:18:41] [2/2] How do I get around the file type restrictions? [21:19:38] iirc you can add them yourself [21:19:47] Special:ManageWiki/settings and search for filetypes [21:20:07] sorry [21:20:12] wgFileExtensions [21:23:27] Ah, interesting, I did not know one could do so. Thankee [21:24:37] we allow changing of most parameters [21:24:51] a lot of them are in managewiki but some you'll have to request on phorge [23:05:41] <_shirokane_> is there any way to hide the namespace in like categories? [23:08:47] displaytitle [23:08:59] and not the extension, you do not need the extension [23:09:16] <_shirokane_> That works in categories too? [23:09:44] they're still pages so, yeah [23:10:21] would be really funny if i was wrong though [23:13:28] <_shirokane_> So trying to put into the category itself doesn't... work [23:13:39] <_shirokane_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468746356117078148/image.png?ex=69852423&is=6983d2a3&hm=52e174a83da8143eccecad9111cea8a664699e6949f0a5992957f4fe1a0f1944& [23:13:51] <_shirokane_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1468746404095852646/image.png?ex=6985242e&is=6983d2ae&hm=8071ad6c5d17b549bdb075d53b443a57288ec0837089aac299ef11c78aa624cd& [23:14:42] Do you have a link to the page? [23:15:33] <_shirokane_> https://cutieflyocwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/MHARI:Ground_Zero [23:15:35] <_shirokane_> here [23:15:35] for links you can just do [[Category:Characters|Characters]] [23:15:51] <_shirokane_> oh. I did that, but it still shows up with the namespace behind it [23:16:45] oh im bullshitting [23:17:18] if you're just adding categories then anything after the pipe does nothing [23:17:55] you do the displaytitle on their individual pages [23:18:58] you would only need to use the pipe if you were linking to the category page directly: `[[:Category:Characters|Characters]]` [23:19:26] the colon in front basically tells it "don't assign a category, you're just a normal link"