[00:05:37] Thankss 🙏 [00:16:51] Attribution and licensing? [00:17:03] I don't think I quite understand this [00:27:17] [1/3] at the bottom of the page you might see something like this, mentioning CC-BY SA 4.0. This means that, rather than the copyright for the text being kept by the people who wrote the page, anyone can copy the text and use it however they want as long as A) they give credit to where this text came from and B) any work they make that uses this text is also lic [00:27:18] [2/3] ensed under CC-BY SA 4.0 [00:27:18] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466228172034146448/image.png?ex=697bfae5&is=697aa965&hm=6fe9e4bc3e622c701cfd24856181645ac9c3f81250462a9616d58162b34c2a33& [00:28:06] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/ contains a whole load more information about specifics that I may have got wrong but that's the general principle [00:31:06] [1/2] Are there CC license logos on Commons? [00:31:06] [2/2] The only one I could really find so far is Cc-by-sa.png [00:32:13] [1/2] basically if you want a template (that is licensed under CC-BY SA) from wikipedia, for example (this is hypothetical, don't actually do that), you're perfectly free to copy and paste the original template as long as you credit the original source and also allow other users to copy and paste your template. [00:32:13] [2/2] the easiest way to copy and paste from wikipedia (again, don't actually do that) is by exporting from there and then importing on your wiki, just because it's less work than copying and pasting, and ensures you've done the attribution properly [00:35:39] How would one do that? [00:35:49] Is it possible to do it on mobile? [00:45:38] [[mw:Help:Import]] and [[mw:Help:Export]] [00:45:39] [1/2] [00:45:39] [2/2] [01:06:55] [1/2] Yes there are [01:06:56] [2/2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_Creative_Commons_icons [01:09:11] [1/2] More here: [01:09:11] [2/2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_Creative_Commons_license_logos [01:11:10] [1/2] This explains the way the license tags are build up: [01:11:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466239214650654801/500px-Creative_commons_license_spectrum.svg.png?ex=697c052e&is=697ab3ae&hm=6bdb6225869da7b0c2b14c3d7d55ab90edfc609bb1e39c43fe53dc27922d3156& [01:53:50] thx [02:19:21] iirc unless every person agrees, you cant change the copyright licence (and cc licences cannot be revoked) [03:47:27] [1/2] It broke [03:47:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466278543569977465/Screenshot_20260128_214714_Firefox.jpg?ex=697c29ce&is=697ad84e&hm=059915c4d186f367e4135310155d43884e133f35136e3c713b0e30f330367bf5& [04:26:20] Why does it have to be down now ;-; [04:26:43] The Wayback Machine is down too DX [04:29:29] what [04:30:45] [1/2] Try to load literally any webpage on Wayback Machine right now [04:30:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466289440866566328/image.png?ex=697c33f5&is=697ae275&hm=321cf7d073330424f33efb0e1f0d5a3a9040fe254fb53dce3bfd3fb7353046aa& [07:14:37] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1466330153599631513 [07:14:41] help pls [10:04:51] hi! is there a way to "reset" a wiki to its initial state (i.e. when it was first created)? [10:07:13] it can be asked but i don't remember at which venue [10:07:26] iirc stewards can do that [10:07:34] i see [10:07:37] thank you very much! [10:22:59] phorge, stewards have no control over that [10:25:11] [[Phorge]] [10:25:12] [10:29:54] thank you! [10:36:23] uhh [10:36:28] [1/2] which form am i supposed to use? [10:36:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466381477905305691/F6E4576A-2DCD-43D7-8C4B-D38665AC5F59.png?ex=697c89ac&is=697b382c&hm=755b42e4149da0dafadb7f781d5932661be495020d7ced725e66e546311c794c& [10:37:12] @pskyechology now your turn [10:37:51] default one, the one you're on [10:37:56] ok [10:37:59] thank you so much [11:50:11] Why I only see a small icon on the Miraheze wiki?Internet problem or Miraheze is under maintenance? [12:32:41] I have a ton of minor pages that are listed as orphaned as there are no pages linking to them. the yare however aprt of a category which is the main page of them. is there a way to make a dynamic list of some sort that makes these pages become non-orphaned? [12:37:27] dpl4 will be your friend [12:38:28] https://dpl4.wikitide.org [13:24:29] [1/2] is this CommentStreams? extention? do i have to contact the staff to enable it [13:24:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466423761216475187/image.png?ex=697cb10d&is=697b5f8d&hm=691715b46a584dbc5b2e63caff526cd7979670013b46e5c152598dbdad8f199e& [14:17:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466437133253214319/c4080f8e-b86c-42b8-b4c2-e059485a1c32.jpg?ex=697cbd81&is=697b6c01&hm=8d212aaee8457bdf1b37da637b8c44aee143a418eeb67c77b509e1d8494ced16& [14:17:46] @Discord Moderators [14:18:13] Skye, you wanna hit the button? [14:18:16] Nice [14:18:19] yes sir [14:18:31] Bye Steve, we hardly knew ya [14:19:46] yes comment extension [14:19:50] bcrats can enable [14:20:26] here [14:20:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466437908100812901/image.png?ex=697cbe3a&is=697b6cba&hm=0c61d13f342c4c9aff7473fc0ccec6e41d25c3dcc6b0c674f71944f8d195e928& [14:21:29] they use moderation don't they [14:22:29] unsure, i thought it was a whitelist only wiki [14:23:23] o yea its enabled [14:23:24] welp [14:26:56] yee we use moderation sooo we cant use it unless it disable? [14:27:44] yup [14:30:58] okie thanks skye [14:31:04] and kal [14:35:35] Hi guys, is there a way you can help me basically "clean slate" my wiki ? [14:35:48] I'd like to start from scratch if possible [14:36:02] [[Phorge]] request for a reset of your wiki [14:36:02] [14:36:06] Thanks [14:37:16] I suppose I could do it manually too [14:37:24] Just gotta be careful [14:45:57] [1/2] For people with the moderation extension (?) [14:45:57] [2/2] Say there was a edit conflict and I took care of it but the page keep bugging me cause I manually added the sentence in without all the newlines and stuff. If I reject, will it not count the edit towards the person who made the edit [14:47:34] [1/2] merge conflicts would always result in the edit being credited to the moderator [14:47:34] [2/2] rejections never count towards the edit count [14:50:13] ah [14:50:15] thanks [15:31:43] ? [15:49:52] Aww not steve lol [16:15:09] [1/2] i thought miraheze has a lot of volunteers, why do you guys...need more? [16:15:09] [2/2] i mean there is always work to do but it feels like you guys are greedy for more people ||to kidnap to the van|| [16:15:35] [1/4] Pages that don’t exist are showing up on my wiki analytics lol [16:15:36] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466466817685061662/IMG_1726.png?ex=697cd926&is=697b87a6&hm=f6f9580e571c1957b7f7acaf72ad5c31b6b4a0f8012d229f8d334b16170f79df& [16:15:36] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466466818569932998/IMG_1727.png?ex=697cd927&is=697b87a7&hm=f10cea3ce079c19bcce67ae6bb9b12ecf3e08d5413da71f48bfe24699b5c4299& [16:15:36] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466466819157000262/IMG_1728.png?ex=697cd927&is=697b87a7&hm=0ba6a3525eed14ec2a07186a78ef5ecdece9776201c43f97105801baa97c30e9& [16:15:46] lol [16:16:07] What even are these [16:33:49] have you ever made a steward request [16:46:14] yes - it takes a little bit, the wait isn't that long [16:48:27] if you think we're an well-oiled machine you're so god damn wrong [16:48:54] half the time NA is resolving several queues by himself [16:48:58] i do recognize volunteers are human [16:49:05] and not...ai [16:49:18] that's also one big reason we need more volunteers [16:49:27] we don't want to use a stupid machine to review wikis [16:49:47] yeah ai isn't flawless rn [16:50:03] it always will be [16:50:12] it doesn't know anything it's just a slop generator [16:52:10] [1/2] Yep, I'd temper Skye's message by saying that while things run decently today, more hands helping is always appreciated. [16:52:10] [2/2] I'm admittedly overloaded keeping all things running smoothly and that's stretching my ability to do things well and 100% to my satisfaction. [16:54:59] [1/2] so if you were to be busy irl then things wouldn't get done yeah? [16:54:59] [2/2] i suppose i change my mind - tho i still think miraheze is a little bit aggressive for getting more people onboard [16:56:20] lol [16:56:43] Hmm, I don't take your meaning, unless you're referring to the joking "van abduction" meme? [16:58:09] (Jokes aside I'm actually considering a more aggressive recruitment campaign in the near future as it's clear there more work than people to share it fairly) [16:58:44] yeah [16:59:02] well if you were to refer to what message it would help [16:59:17] i didn't made a joke here [16:59:26] but i did made a joke here [17:02:35] yeah seems like you guys need more wiki reviewers as people say you do the queue half the time [17:03:12] tho it seems like the problem looks like there needs to people capable and willing to do it [17:09:15] there are other queues but WR is certainly the biggest [17:09:34] renames, all manner of steward requests, trust and safety [17:09:48] CVT account creation is a fun one [17:10:24] huh why would you need an account dedicated to cvt, unless it's different then using an account normally [17:11:04] CVT account creation queue is people contacting the CVT@ email for an account because they're affected by a global block and can't create one themselves [17:11:16] since we ever so famously try to block every VPN under the sun [17:12:36] hmm, you guys accepted 650~ requests last month, how many requests do you guys get per month? [17:14:32] Agent did some quick math yesterday, we've gotten about 550 this week alone already [17:15:05] just a few [17:15:55] To give a sense of scale: of about 100 requests a day, the AI makes a yes/no decision on roughly 60, leaving 40 for humans [17:16:50] When a request is declined or shunted off to requesting more details, there's also a reasonable chance it reopens for reconsideration [17:17:46] So in practice it can end up being closer to 40 + 5 to 15 reopens [17:18:12] damn, that is quite a bit, i don't think wrs clear the queue daily tho, unless i'm wrong [17:18:27] Without my help, no [17:24:24] To give more context, I'd estimate a seasoned reviewer on the more lenient side of our current scale probably spends... Maybe an average of 1-2 minutes per request. [17:25:01] So for one person, going flat out on requests and not hitting complications, 10 requests is 15 minutes of their time [17:25:21] that's easily hours on requests with your estimate [17:26:14] legends say that if you do WR enough you can see into the requester's soul to determine the validity of their request [17:26:47] It can take hours to clear with only one or two active reviewers, yes [17:27:18] Now imagine if we killed off the AI with our current rate of requests [17:27:32] if you were getting the attention of wikimedia and you guys only have this amount of wrs then uh i don't think you can even clear it in a day [17:28:36] hmm, that looks...waiting hell for the people who is requesting a wiki [17:28:52] Our intent is to avoid ever reaching that scale, at that point we'd need paid employees [17:29:18] now if only someone paid us [17:29:26] Easily multi-week time to response [17:29:57] hold on i can make a meme about this [17:30:23] volunteers isn't a paid role, unless you count being on the board [17:30:33] you think they're paid? LOL [17:30:47] Board members aren't compensated monetarily either [17:30:57] it's all about the servers [17:31:01] Just in it for the love of the wiki [17:33:47] possibly lol [17:34:27] [1/2] damn, that is a lot per month, easily prob 200$ usd monthly operating costs for miraheze [17:34:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466486663852065033/F5E0BBF5-4D58-4DB0-8DF1-45D0235AD497.png?ex=697ceba2&is=697b9a22&hm=6dcb8649d92b50b36c178314058def614c79a2a72eed119addbd44665e5f05f3& [17:35:18] pretty sure we pay yearly for the servers [17:35:31] [[Finance/2025]] [17:35:32] [17:35:39] oh yearly? billed at the start of the year i suppose [17:35:53] [1/2] yum [17:35:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466487024834838538/image.png?ex=697cebf8&is=697b9a78&hm=531de5e5a4a54eb10525e4a34fba651af85e78813afdd238a958ff8542a7a502& [17:38:04] 10k just like that dang... [17:38:24] Is there any limit for page amount? [17:39:17] no [17:39:54] I can create a wiki with 100,000 articles? [17:40:34] I would be surprised if you had 100k genuine articles [17:40:36] That said, we do reach out to local admins if a wiki is doing something destabilizing or wildly excessive with our resources [17:41:20] Pages by themselves are less of a concern (in most cases) [17:41:29] It's the files that can be a killer. [17:41:52] is it the 4k images that can take up a lot? [17:42:02] or replicating wikibase for no discernible reason [17:43:43] Who can answer me that why I always see a icon instead photo uploaded recently? [17:45:47] can you show an example [17:56:13] I think I should upload a image fir demo...I can see those after some hours... [18:11:31] <_arawynn> I'd love/plan to apply as Wiki Reviewer, but I haven't got the necessary number of edits so far [18:12:12] lemme summon 200 RfCs for you to vote on real quick [18:19:02] <_arawynn> [1/2] 😂 I'm also more aktive working so that gets me edits as well but I'm still just shy of 100. [18:19:03] <_arawynn> [2/2] Though I also try to participate in RfCs and to help on Meta but there's often already answers [18:19:47] always more nuance to give from your own perspective [18:20:07] shows you're someone with a good head [18:21:34] <_arawynn> true, though difficult when it's something with programming since I'm a noob at that XD including CSS [18:22:38] [1/2] not everything is about programming :p [18:22:38] [2/2] also something that can be learned [18:28:02] I can only think of four wikis (not counting big stuff like Wikipedia) that have over 100k articles [18:28:36] [1/4] Yugipedia [18:28:36] [2/4] DC Comics Database [18:28:37] [3/4] Marvel Comics Database [18:28:37] [4/4] Wookipedia [18:40:58] Bluepages (although most are stubs), AllTheTropes, vocaloidlyrics [18:55:47] [1/2] Is there a magic word that calls the name of a month from its number? [18:55:47] [2/2] Like rendering 02 as February. [19:04:17] [1/2] Just keep practicing what you would decide on the current requests. Special:RequestWikiQueue. Feel free to make a list of the request you think you can handle on #volunteering and I believe that there will be several who want to help you refine your answers. [19:04:17] [2/2] Just remember that these requirements to be a wiki reviewer are set so that we get stable volunteers who want to help long term, not just for a short while and then go and do something else again. [19:18:13] <_arawynn, replying to rodejong> oh that's a really good suggestion, will do that, thank you [19:24:29] you could do `{{#time: F| 2025-2 }}` to get the month name [19:24:36] Don't know of anything native [19:25:38] [[w:Help:Magic words]] [19:25:39] [20:16:41] [1/2] I’m so confused. I was told I was doing the custom DNS correctly in here before, and I thought I was following the guide. [20:16:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466527491375235307/IMG_0149.png?ex=697d11a8&is=697bc028&hm=13ce4a49a7336e6cb9ad77d7fafd5f2eeaa65d212276a0a36f959424c354bfa9& [20:16:52] Could someone please help me with this? I’d appreciate it a lot! [20:18:43] r u using cloudflare? [20:22:16] @deviltchi who did you register your domain with and can you screenshot your dns settings [20:22:33] Wait aren't you the one that I told you to contact godaddy [20:23:39] Yeah cloudflare. [20:23:53] I had to change over the name servers to cloudflare for it to work [20:24:13] But now even though I’ve put it in like I did before they are now saying it’s not correct [20:24:36] GoDaddy was no help and didn’t know anything 😂 [20:24:38] can you screenshot the settings [20:24:47] Screenshot your cloudflare dns then [20:25:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466529705627881585/IMG_0151.png?ex=697d13b8&is=697bc238&hm=00612dfd6a5ce9d57c91e65f7b6ec5a345744b88a4543dab2b5da14fc7b77a7f& [20:25:40] oh [20:25:53] I’m unsure what I’m doing wrong [20:25:55] [1/2] name is @ [20:25:55] [2/2] target is cf-lb.miraheze.org [20:26:02] All of it [20:26:10] hey no need to be so harsh [20:26:25] [1/3] name: @ [20:26:25] [2/3] target: cf-lb.miraheze.org [20:26:25] [3/3] Proxy status: off [20:26:29] That will work [20:26:34] Does it still need to be CNAME? [20:26:37] Or something else [20:26:38] Yes [20:26:45] CNAME is correct [20:26:46] Ok you said all of it so I wasn’t sure 😂 [20:26:49] I appreciate the help [20:27:51] Ok so I saved it but it auto edited to this, is it supposed to? [20:27:58] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466530331149598929/IMG_0152.png?ex=697d144d&is=697bc2cd&hm=42e4532403f4ee5dae379fb2c5e9e57d5d333ffc65df7ebef14d212d71be3e88& [20:28:04] yup! [20:28:06] That's correct [20:28:07] Oh good!! [20:28:37] Thanks so much! Did the proxy off resolve the certificate issue? [20:28:41] I wasn’t sure what that did [20:29:16] If you press save and wait a few minutes you should get a lovely Cloudflare error page [20:29:51] If you get that, resubmit your custom domain request and the bot will try again or wait for human review [20:29:57] I appreciate the help, I’m new to all of this so you guys are life savers [20:30:37] wouldn't be fun if your wiki host told you to get bent now would it [20:30:41] happy to help ^^ [20:31:09] We're happy to help (even if I am brutally honest) [20:31:18] I don’t mind the honesty don’t worry 😂 [20:31:51] it's so unfortunate that you were diagnosed with british at birth :( [20:32:11] Northern as well [20:32:37] thats just right and proper [20:32:37] is that northern britain or northern england though [20:32:54] Northern England [20:32:57] i think i would fall over if he spoke with a thick scottish accent [20:33:08] I’m just trying to learn and figure this whole thing out. I really would like to make a nice wiki to help out collectors of Charlie Bears, but I’m unfamiliar with _everything_ in relation to making a wiki. It’s just way more complex than I anticipated. I figured it would be like editing a website’s pre-made code [20:33:23] So thank you for your guidance [20:33:28] it's a braw bricht moonlicht nicht the nicht [20:34:07] only thing you need is persistence and love for what you're doing and you will soon achieve everything <3 [20:34:11] You can ask @pixldev what my accent is like [20:34:22] purple burglar alarm [20:34:23] I think there's only Pix here that's heard me speak [20:34:30] same here, it's very complicated too, from wiki text and such [20:34:45] @corwin0365 has too actually [20:34:50] Forgot he was in here [20:35:18] that's a new person [20:35:24] If it wasn’t for that persistence and love I would’ve given up haha. But I’m trying! I’ve learned some things so far thanks to this server, and I hope eventually I’ll know enough eventually to help others in here in return [20:35:38] [1/3] heres the source for my user page, i am NOT learning any of it and borrowing some of it by other people [20:35:38] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466532258516304005/A6510D3D-9C19-45E4-ACD2-BCBB2E11E7CC.png?ex=697d1619&is=697bc499&hm=3a51e0b0da3064991d30c7428aeaa8e3698107ab7b232036066687c205e72f82& [20:35:39] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466532259518746815/7E50E854-A4E9-4477-94A5-9443BF51FAE0.png?ex=697d1619&is=697bc499&hm=4daf96000ddf43bee90222cc879e362ffb2cb104da21499479df009be05c79c4& [20:35:51] He used to work on Fosshost with me and Sario [20:35:55] And Zppix [20:35:59] I don't remember struggling that much with wikitext but then again I've been doing wiki stuff since I was 12 [20:36:40] https://battle-cats.fandom.com/api.php?format=jsonfm&action=query&list=users&usprop=registration&ususers=TheWWRNerdGuy actually tomorrow is my Fandom account's 10th birthday lol [20:36:50] oh congrats [20:36:53] and happy birthday [20:38:26] i'm also learning new things, such that microediting on the login wiki will give the tech team jobs to do [20:38:45] anyways gonna go to sleep, 3:40 am on a school night [20:39:41] I don't know how people can manage to survive with a sleep schedule like that while I can go to bed at midnight and wake up at 1pm [20:40:05] I do not operate at 3:40am [20:41:02] It’s also easier to learn things when you’re young. I’m not 😂 [20:41:16] pain, i say [20:41:37] to be fair i do have the benefit of meth microdosing but still [20:45:17] least insane adhd medication user [21:30:08] It’s been a very long time lol I don’t remember great [21:30:15] Uuuu [21:30:15] British [21:33:54] I’ve dropped a word (literally) in MCR, you’ve heard me over, what was it Zoom? Legitimately forgot. @wikitideharej has had the misfortune of experiencing the real deal of yours truly 😁 [21:38:28] Teams [21:38:47] Right, yeah [21:38:50] That was my first guess [21:40:11] @pixldev you should visit London again and say hi this time [21:40:35] Some point yes [21:40:41] I haven't done anything with my own wiki and I'm still confused on where to start lol [21:41:00] So how am I supposed to learn all this because I feel like this is too freaking complicated for me [21:41:12] Do I need to learn how coding works like what is this [21:41:20] Would probably like to do a study abroad of sorts in uni, Germany, and would certainly pass by the UK is able [21:41:54] There are areas you can use code in a wiki but absolutely not necessary [21:42:13] Depends when you go tbh, I have a fair few trips to Europe [21:42:19] I don't think Germany is that far away [21:42:33] I think late 2027 / early 2028 [21:42:38] On the work calendar [21:42:50] It's definitely after October 2027 or later [21:42:54] So what and where do I start off in my wiki then because I really don't understand anything going on [21:44:08] [1/2] there's some guides at [[How-to guides]] for a lot of things [21:44:08] [2/2] I would start by making a few pages, even if they're going to be rather devoid of content for now [21:44:09] [21:44:55] a common ask is infoboxes, and there's guide for that in there as well [21:45:03] and if you get stuck at any point, we're here [21:45:12] Would it be fine if I got some fellas to help me with said wiki [21:45:20] Because this is mainly a group effort of some sorts [21:45:23] bring as many friends as you like [21:45:36] I remember someone mentioned about the permissions [21:45:49] did you make a private wiki [21:45:50] Like only logged in accounts can only edit it [21:45:53] Yeah [21:46:01] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_add_a_user_to_a_private_wiki [21:46:12] I plan to make it public once I feel ready but I don't yet [21:48:43] Dumb question but is it possible to have a wiki background to be an image [21:49:52] yes, w/ CSS [21:50:14] MediaWiki:background [21:50:40] Actually wait [21:50:42] No [21:50:55] [1/2] check, various things here [21:50:55] [2/2] [21:51:42] [1/3] Hm… [21:51:42] [2/3] On the topic of wikis, should I get advice on what to edit about mine? [21:51:42] [3/3] I’m at a roadblock on what to do [21:57:13] wdym [22:04:05] Like what should I improve on [22:09:32] https://battle-cats.fandom.com/api.php?format=jsonfm&action=query&list=users&usprop=registration&ususers=Original%20Authority 😛 [22:10:06] god damn you're old [22:10:13] Damn my fandom account older than some people in here [22:10:42] probably older than everyone on brainrot wikis [22:10:54] Mfw 2011 was 15 years ago. Wth [22:11:03] True [22:11:21] I have just aged a lot reading that