[00:05:37] Thankss 🙏 [00:16:51] Attribution and licensing? [00:17:03] I don't think I quite understand this [00:27:17] [1/3] at the bottom of the page you might see something like this, mentioning CC-BY SA 4.0. This means that, rather than the copyright for the text being kept by the people who wrote the page, anyone can copy the text and use it however they want as long as A) they give credit to where this text came from and B) any work they make that uses this text is also lic [00:27:18] [2/3] ensed under CC-BY SA 4.0 [00:27:18] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466228172034146448/image.png?ex=697bfae5&is=697aa965&hm=6fe9e4bc3e622c701cfd24856181645ac9c3f81250462a9616d58162b34c2a33& [00:28:06] https://creativecommons.org/licenses/ contains a whole load more information about specifics that I may have got wrong but that's the general principle [00:31:06] [1/2] Are there CC license logos on Commons? [00:31:06] [2/2] The only one I could really find so far is Cc-by-sa.png [00:32:13] [1/2] basically if you want a template (that is licensed under CC-BY SA) from wikipedia, for example (this is hypothetical, don't actually do that), you're perfectly free to copy and paste the original template as long as you credit the original source and also allow other users to copy and paste your template. [00:32:13] [2/2] the easiest way to copy and paste from wikipedia (again, don't actually do that) is by exporting from there and then importing on your wiki, just because it's less work than copying and pasting, and ensures you've done the attribution properly [00:35:39] How would one do that? [00:35:49] Is it possible to do it on mobile? [00:45:38] [[mw:Help:Import]] and [[mw:Help:Export]] [00:45:39] [1/2] [00:45:39] [2/2] [01:06:55] [1/2] Yes there are [01:06:56] [2/2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_Creative_Commons_icons [01:09:11] [1/2] More here: [01:09:11] [2/2] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:SVG_Creative_Commons_license_logos [01:11:10] [1/2] This explains the way the license tags are build up: [01:11:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466239214650654801/500px-Creative_commons_license_spectrum.svg.png?ex=697c052e&is=697ab3ae&hm=6bdb6225869da7b0c2b14c3d7d55ab90edfc609bb1e39c43fe53dc27922d3156& [01:53:50] thx [02:19:21] iirc unless every person agrees, you cant change the copyright licence (and cc licences cannot be revoked) [03:47:27] [1/2] It broke [03:47:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466278543569977465/Screenshot_20260128_214714_Firefox.jpg?ex=697c29ce&is=697ad84e&hm=059915c4d186f367e4135310155d43884e133f35136e3c713b0e30f330367bf5& [04:26:20] Why does it have to be down now ;-; [04:26:43] The Wayback Machine is down too DX [04:29:29] what [04:30:45] [1/2] Try to load literally any webpage on Wayback Machine right now [04:30:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466289440866566328/image.png?ex=697c33f5&is=697ae275&hm=321cf7d073330424f33efb0e1f0d5a3a9040fe254fb53dce3bfd3fb7353046aa& [07:14:37] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1466330153599631513 [07:14:41] help pls [10:04:51] hi! is there a way to "reset" a wiki to its initial state (i.e. when it was first created)? [10:07:13] it can be asked but i don't remember at which venue [10:07:26] iirc stewards can do that [10:07:34] i see [10:07:37] thank you very much! [10:22:59] phorge, stewards have no control over that [10:25:11] [[Phorge]] [10:25:12] [10:29:54] thank you! [10:36:23] uhh [10:36:28] [1/2] which form am i supposed to use? [10:36:29] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466381477905305691/F6E4576A-2DCD-43D7-8C4B-D38665AC5F59.png?ex=697c89ac&is=697b382c&hm=755b42e4149da0dafadb7f781d5932661be495020d7ced725e66e546311c794c& [10:37:12] @pskyechology now your turn [10:37:51] default one, the one you're on [10:37:56] ok [10:37:59] thank you so much [11:50:11] Why I only see a small icon on the Miraheze wiki?Internet problem or Miraheze is under maintenance? [12:32:41] I have a ton of minor pages that are listed as orphaned as there are no pages linking to them. the yare however aprt of a category which is the main page of them. is there a way to make a dynamic list of some sort that makes these pages become non-orphaned? [12:37:27] dpl4 will be your friend [12:38:28] https://dpl4.wikitide.org [13:24:29] [1/2] is this CommentStreams? extention? do i have to contact the staff to enable it [13:24:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466423761216475187/image.png?ex=697cb10d&is=697b5f8d&hm=691715b46a584dbc5b2e63caff526cd7979670013b46e5c152598dbdad8f199e& [14:17:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466437133253214319/c4080f8e-b86c-42b8-b4c2-e059485a1c32.jpg?ex=697cbd81&is=697b6c01&hm=8d212aaee8457bdf1b37da637b8c44aee143a418eeb67c77b509e1d8494ced16& [14:17:46] @Discord Moderators [14:18:13] Skye, you wanna hit the button? [14:18:16] Nice [14:18:19] yes sir [14:18:31] Bye Steve, we hardly knew ya [14:19:46] yes comment extension [14:19:50] bcrats can enable [14:20:26] here [14:20:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466437908100812901/image.png?ex=697cbe3a&is=697b6cba&hm=0c61d13f342c4c9aff7473fc0ccec6e41d25c3dcc6b0c674f71944f8d195e928& [14:21:29] they use moderation don't they [14:22:29] unsure, i thought it was a whitelist only wiki [14:23:23] o yea its enabled [14:23:24] welp [14:26:56] yee we use moderation sooo we cant use it unless it disable? [14:27:44] yup [14:30:58] okie thanks skye [14:31:04] and kal [14:35:35] Hi guys, is there a way you can help me basically "clean slate" my wiki ? [14:35:48] I'd like to start from scratch if possible [14:36:02] [[Phorge]] request for a reset of your wiki [14:36:02] [14:36:06] Thanks [14:37:16] I suppose I could do it manually too [14:37:24] Just gotta be careful [14:45:57] [1/2] For people with the moderation extension (?) [14:45:57] [2/2] Say there was a edit conflict and I took care of it but the page keep bugging me cause I manually added the sentence in without all the newlines and stuff. If I reject, will it not count the edit towards the person who made the edit [14:47:34] [1/2] merge conflicts would always result in the edit being credited to the moderator [14:47:34] [2/2] rejections never count towards the edit count [14:50:13] ah [14:50:15] thanks [15:31:43] ? [15:49:52] Aww not steve lol [16:15:09] [1/2] i thought miraheze has a lot of volunteers, why do you guys...need more? [16:15:09] [2/2] i mean there is always work to do but it feels like you guys are greedy for more people ||to kidnap to the van|| [16:15:35] [1/4] Pages that don’t exist are showing up on my wiki analytics lol [16:15:36] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466466817685061662/IMG_1726.png?ex=697cd926&is=697b87a6&hm=f6f9580e571c1957b7f7acaf72ad5c31b6b4a0f8012d229f8d334b16170f79df& [16:15:36] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466466818569932998/IMG_1727.png?ex=697cd927&is=697b87a7&hm=f10cea3ce079c19bcce67ae6bb9b12ecf3e08d5413da71f48bfe24699b5c4299& [16:15:36] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1466466819157000262/IMG_1728.png?ex=697cd927&is=697b87a7&hm=0ba6a3525eed14ec2a07186a78ef5ecdece9776201c43f97105801baa97c30e9& [16:15:46] lol [16:16:07] What even are these [16:33:49] have you ever made a steward request [16:46:14] yes - it takes a little bit, the wait isn't that long [16:48:27] if you think we're an well-oiled machine you're so god damn wrong [16:48:54] half the time NA is resolving several queues by himself [16:48:58] i do recognize volunteers are human [16:49:05] and not...ai [16:49:18] that's also one big reason we need more volunteers [16:49:27] we don't want to use a stupid machine to review wikis [16:49:47] yeah ai isn't flawless rn [16:50:03] it always will be [16:50:12] it doesn't know anything it's just a slop generator [16:52:10] [1/2] Yep, I'd temper Skye's message by saying that while things run decently today, more hands helping is always appreciated. [16:52:10] [2/2] I'm admittedly overloaded keeping all things running smoothly and that's stretching my ability to do things well and 100% to my satisfaction. [16:54:59] [1/2] so if you were to be busy irl then things wouldn't get done yeah? [16:54:59] [2/2] i suppose i change my mind - tho i still think miraheze is a little bit aggressive for getting more people onboard [16:56:20] lol [16:56:43] Hmm, I don't take your meaning, unless you're referring to the joking "van abduction" meme? [16:58:09] (Jokes aside I'm actually considering a more aggressive recruitment campaign in the near future as it's clear there more work than people to share it fairly) [16:58:44] yeah [16:59:02] well if you were to refer to what message it would help [16:59:17] i didn't made a joke here [16:59:26] but i did made a joke here [17:02:35] yeah seems like you guys need more wiki reviewers as people say you do the queue half the time [17:03:12] tho it seems like the problem looks like there needs to people capable and willing to do it [17:09:15] there are other queues but WR is certainly the biggest [17:09:34] renames, all manner of steward requests, trust and safety [17:09:48] CVT account creation is a fun one [17:10:24] huh why would you need an account dedicated to cvt, unless it's different then using an account normally [17:11:04] CVT account creation queue is people contacting the CVT@ email for an account because they're affected by a global block and can't create one themselves [17:11:16] since we ever so famously try to block every VPN under the sun [17:12:36] hmm, you guys accepted 650~ requests last month, how many requests do you guys get per month? [17:14:32] Agent did some quick math yesterday, we've gotten about 550 this week alone already [17:15:05] just a few [17:15:55] To give a sense of scale: of about 100 requests a day, the AI makes a yes/no decision on roughly 60, leaving 40 for humans [17:16:50] When a request is declined or shunted off to requesting more details, there's also a reasonable chance it reopens for reconsideration [17:17:46] So in practice it can end up being closer to 40 + 5 to 15 reopens [17:18:12] damn, that is quite a bit, i don't think wrs clear the queue daily tho, unless i'm wrong [17:18:27] Without my help, no [17:24:24] To give more context, I'd estimate a seasoned reviewer on the more lenient side of our current scale probably spends... Maybe an average of 1-2 minutes per request. [17:25:01] So for one person, going flat out on requests and not hitting complications, 10 requests is 15 minutes of their time [17:25:21] that's easily hours on requests with your estimate [17:26:14] legends say that if you do WR enough you can see into the requester's soul to determine the validity of their request [17:26:47] It can take hours to clear with only one or two active reviewers, yes [17:27:18] Now imagine if we killed off the AI with our current rate of requests [17:27:32] if you were getting the attention of wikimedia and you guys only have this amount of wrs then uh i don't think you can even clear it in a day [17:28:36] hmm, that looks...waiting hell for the people who is requesting a wiki [17:28:52] Our intent is to avoid ever reaching that scale, at that point we'd need paid employees [17:29:18] now if only someone paid us [17:29:26] Easily multi-week time to response [17:29:57] hold on i can make a meme about this [17:30:23] volunteers isn't a paid role, unless you count being on the board