[00:20:44] Just wondering, will my wiki be taken down for inactivity? [00:21:17] yay finally approved [00:21:18] thanks [00:22:13] [[Dormancy_Policy]] should have it explained in detail. If there's anything you find unclear/confusing feel free to ask. [00:22:14]

[00:26:41] Oh thanks! [00:37:50] [1/3] I have a weird issue on a wiki where the Page Forms extension is enabled, yet the `#arraymap` feature doesn't seem to work? [00:37:51] [2/3] Not sure if something changed in the extension or miraheze, but this is rather strange [00:37:51] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1465868440182063190/image.png?ex=697aabde&is=69795a5e&hm=023abb3338d6b6fde57b1bd7a2258a1c0421be90feaad501fb518e16764380e5& [00:57:11] what's the wiki? [00:57:43] https://julsenmcserver.miraheze.org [00:59:24] [1/2] it's there in Special:Version [00:59:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1465873865514156032/image.png?ex=697ab0ec&is=69795f6c&hm=8eb2cd72095cb2b2ffe2dd62d2bfa6904a7dd4129bd8a4234bfbbae2275bf99f& [01:00:09] [1/2] I know, yet it still doesn't work. [01:00:09] [2/2] You can see for such a case [01:00:40] [1/2] for anyone interested, i figured it out 🥲 i can go to bed peacefully [01:00:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1465874183362707616/image.png?ex=697ab137&is=69795fb7&hm=8b3a8972a250361656c0464755950d50ae5fe31160f3750733d5029c3f3984e0& [01:01:45] [1/2] purged it now it looks like this [01:01:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1465874453501186140/image.png?ex=697ab178&is=69795ff8&hm=9d8a68c269fa280efa50452d154d65e9fca4e738d4fcb3009f59d0a5eefee763& [01:01:57] strange [01:02:03] Must be a random bug [01:03:44] sounds like something to do with caching, perhaps pageforms wasn't fully functional until after you last updated those pages [01:04:16] It did work before, so there must've been an issue in-between then and now [06:30:39] Hey people! General question: a wiki i help run recently had a community suggestion to create another language instance of it so people could translate the wiki into another language version of it. Is the only way to do this rawdogging it and creating another miraheze wiki, reinstall the same settings, install the needed interwiki stuff on both and start interlinking articles? [06:32:00] <_chrs_> there's a Translate extension you can use to keep this on one wiki [06:32:49] <_chrs_> can be complicated though, have a look at [[mw:Help:Extension:Translate]] [06:32:50]

[06:32:53] [1/2] this way is how Wikipedia and Fandom do this, this usually means there's another community willing to run it, and it doesn't have to be 1:1 [06:32:53] [2/2] another way is Translate extension, that means you'll have one wiki w/ several langs, English being original, but the way it works might mess up pages structure and make editing harder [06:33:23] you might see Translate in action on Meta Wiki [06:34:01] <_chrs_> yeah basically if your idea is "translate the [source language] pages into other languages" then Translate can work for you, but if you want to do "this wiki but run by a different community in their language" best to use another wiki [06:34:23] [1/2] You can also rawdog it by creating subpages with language variant suffixes (e.g. https://strinova.org/wiki/Michele/ja for the Japanese version of https://strinova.org/wiki/Michele). [06:34:23] [2/2] That way you can easily share templates without the encumberment of the Translate extension. [06:34:24] Hmmm thanks I see [06:35:02] huh that sounds pretty straightforward [06:35:41] yeah, not everyone do that but it's a nicer solution indeed [06:35:43] I'd have to inquire how serious this idea is, it's been mostly spitballing so far [06:36:03] Does this like create another namespace or something? [06:36:21] iirc, it functions through subpages [06:36:27] <_chrs_> not exactly, let me show an example [06:36:31] if you just add / it will be subpages in main content space [06:36:50] you can make custom namespace tho [06:36:56] <_chrs_> compare [[c:Commons:Project_scope]] to [[c:Commons:Project_scope/nl]] [06:36:56]

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[2/2] [06:36:57] The main problem with this would probably be that you'd have to manually copy every template to make an alt language version right? [06:37:14] [1/3] The best solution would depend on lots of factors (e.g. how much you want translated content to be in sync with the original). [06:37:14] [2/3] > This extension [Translate] works best when all content should be in sync with the original page. [06:37:15] [3/3] From https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_support_multiple_languages_on_my_wiki [06:37:25] Aha i see i see [06:37:28] maybe a js script to add language sidebar on every pages [06:37:30] <_chrs_, replying to _chrs_> notice how instead of an [edit] button on the translation you have a [translate] button, which brings up a whole seperate interface for translating vs. editing [06:38:01] example of an out of sync translate page: [[donate/pt-br]] [06:38:02]

[06:39:15] thanks for the help yall I'll take a look deeper into this stuff when I have some time later tidy [06:39:27] [1/2] You'd have to copy-paste the page content over and then translate it. For templates there are ways to detect page language and serve a different language version (e.g. https://strinova.org/wiki/Template:Untranslated) so you may not need to change the template. [06:39:28] [2/2] Translated pages will get out of sync with the original but that might be intentional. [06:41:12] Yeah, it's a community worldbuilding project so factual accuracy/pages being 1:1 across languages wouldn't be a priority concern definitely [09:38:36] Hi, what time will they be reviewing it? [11:01:58] review what? [11:02:40] if AI gave your wiki request to human reviewer, that 1-3 days [13:25:39] uploading the song file, my friend did it btw [20:41:32] <18.748.837.46> I'm trying to set up this thing where unverified users can't edit our wiki, so they have to join the discord server and verify their account with a bot that both verifies them in the server and for the wiki, allowing them to edit [20:42:16] <18.748.837.46> I have @Wiki-Bot added but I don't think I'm using it right [20:44:24] i dont think wikibot has the functionality of giving roles based on your discord roles [20:48:31] <18.748.837.46> Is there another way to automate the process? [20:49:16] <18.748.837.46> Hell, I need to set up the first part about edit permissions only being available to verified users [20:49:37] <18.748.837.46> Theres a lot of stuff, I'll just make a #support post about it [20:49:39] just remove edit from * [20:58:31] It'd be custom work to automate, would need to use API [21:03:22] new extension idea [21:18:39] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_manage_who_can_edit_my_wiki will probably be helpful to get started [21:19:12] Setting up the permission model itself should be relatively straightforwrard, it's auto applying a new role based on an activity like verifying on discord that's the hard part [21:56:37] Is it possible to add a tagline to a wiki or do I just add the tagline to the main page description of the wiki [22:11:10] in citizen skin? [22:29:09] What's rhat [22:32:29] https://mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin: Citizen [22:50:14] MediaWiki:Tagline [22:50:44] changes the text under the title [22:51:19] Guys if im creating a wiki but i dont have a source url because its a wiki about my music [22:52:07] So what would i put [22:54:39] Oh nvm [22:54:45] Im stupid sorry 🫩 [23:30:17] Not a worry, that's the growing process w/ wikis. Each thing figured out makes the next easier. [23:39:49] Most of the information on my wiki comes from either another wiki, YouTube videos or just bits of information that the series has given us, will this be an issue? Even if I give credit/reference? [23:39:49] (sorry for sounding annoying I am still very new to making and writing wikis [23:51:30] [1/3] This is a very contextual thing, but in most cases attribution is what's needed. [23:51:30] [2/3] * If the writing/summarization of contents is your own, attribution generaly isn't mandatory but links to references (via citation or something else) are helpful and make for a better-quality article [23:51:31] [3/3] * If the writing is taken wholesale from another wiki, you need to verify the wiki's license, because attribution is likely mandatory at minimum. This is easiest to do by exporting the page (or pages) and importing it to your wiki [23:53:05] I need to attend to non-wiki stuff, but if you have a specific question, a community member might have a specific answer for yoru [23:55:16] anyone know how to make a custom skin/apperance i wanna keep og wikipedia layout but i want to change the cursor, colors, font etc [23:55:49] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Help:How_to_customise_the_look_of_my_wiki [23:56:27] i just use inspect element