[00:30:48] What editor is that [00:54:17] Erm... Good question, hang on [00:58:55] Extension:WikiEditor/Realtime Preview [00:59:03] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Extension:WikiEditor/Realtime_Preview [00:59:19] That is neat [00:59:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444130684401619154/image.png?ex=692b9701&is=692a4581&hm=60cd64752db7e5e1cb3e25bb33221a4108f90f07df551af2ab1f9695b8855068& [01:00:20] You can toggle that on and off by clicking the Preview button in the 2010 editor [01:34:35] can anyone tell me if the TOC on the main page is floating to the right side of the screen like it's supposed to be? [01:54:20] I see no toc at all [01:54:30] . hold on [01:54:42] Neither on https://acosaa.miraheze.org/wiki/Dragonic [01:54:58] toc is back on main page now [01:55:09] idk what you're talking abt on that page cuz it renders fine [01:55:18] are you on mobile perchance [01:55:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444144802328350830/image.png?ex=692ba427&is=692a52a7&hm=80bdbf610966135146d8d005705cc1690fdf66f7a01aa41c8635e786cc012e40& [01:55:58] Yeah now it is there [01:55:59] oh it does [01:56:07] is it my cache then or is it something else? [01:56:13] its been days since I've put that code in [01:56:17] Cache likely [01:56:25] Hmm [01:56:26] Hrm [01:56:34] Yes it does seem to work fine in incognito [01:56:42] https://acosaa.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?stable=0 [01:56:50] Nope [01:56:57] ?debug=2 doesn't seem to work either [01:57:02] https://acosaa.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page?stable=1 [01:57:19] still nada [01:57:27] Weird [01:57:36] Which browser do you use? [01:57:38] Firefox [01:57:42] It loves to have issues with the cache [01:57:44] Windows 11? [01:57:46] Mhm [01:57:52] Yeah... [01:57:55] Should I try clearing my browser cache [01:57:59] Like. Manuall [01:58:07] Lots of users have issues with that browser since Windows 11 [01:58:12] Sucks man [01:58:16] Hang on [02:00:22] Yeah, clear your browsers cache, close Firefox, restart it, and see if it works [02:00:30] Will do [02:00:49] It's annoying because I have restarted my browser several times just. For unrelated reasons. For some reason the cache loves to stick lol [02:01:05] I know the code works because It used to work [02:01:06] Works on my end, there's is a short flash when the TOC is moved but not much can be done about that, which is why I made https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14595 [02:01:22] Yeah that short flash is the javascript moving it I believe [02:01:38] It doesn't bother me [02:01:47] From what I gather, Many Firefox users on Windows 11 have issues with it [02:02:14] Same with favicons and bookmarks [02:02:28] What even is the favicon [02:02:34] Is that tie icon that shows on the tab? [02:02:41] The little icon in the tab [02:02:46] Oh I don't know if mine works [02:02:58] That's why tab looks weird lol.... oops [02:03:28] Where is that setting btw [02:03:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444146748426686524/image.png?ex=692ba5f7&is=692a5477&hm=d2bc46bf9045bd9a36d99df4e0926a9951edf82e3155e287f0970d10350fdad4& [02:03:43] So I guess it's just broken [02:03:48] Also christ is that orange that bright [02:03:48] Yeah [02:04:06] [1/2] that's wild it's so dull on my screen [02:04:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444146876055289977/image.png?ex=692ba616&is=692a5496&hm=d05eff8126bccd259959c646cb5089e8993535302a5f3cbb7bd27ce574b46d34& [02:04:37] Hmmm, I guess it's how the browser renders these colours I guess [02:04:43] Not sure why [02:04:52] Omg is that why everyone is telling me my text is unreadable 😭 [02:05:06] Could be [02:05:12] wtf [02:05:13] Try using Chrome [02:05:21] 😭 hold [02:05:38] [1/2] People have told me the sidebar red is unreadable but on firefox.. [02:05:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444147260609794202/image.png?ex=692ba671&is=692a54f1&hm=4c6af069d747b00831b4e4b2f7f550096c26bf230c9264a9fb4869a87b4c5446& [02:06:07] Nah it renders fine on chrome too [02:06:16] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444147420794720427/image.png?ex=692ba698&is=692a5518&hm=59a6b44a97ef34265da61f701955cacf201e4250ace48b4ef3566e057d42f6cc& [02:06:17] Who knows man [02:06:31] Oh I suppose it could be display settings [02:06:37] Let me see on my phone [02:06:47] Maybe. I am a technical Noob [02:07:00] Meh, it's not the problem I'm worried about [02:07:08] But yeah the TOC seems to display properly on chrome too so [02:07:25] I'll manually clear cache and if it doesn't work I'll just. wait [02:07:42] 👍🏻 [02:08:14] Glad it's just a me thing and not a Javascript-not-working thing tyty 🙂‍↕️ [02:10:01] Oh. Actually I do have one really stupid question [02:10:08] where the fuck do I change the favicon and stuff like that [02:10:19] I can never find it 😭 [02:11:48] Nevermind I actually found it [02:32:45] I'm off to bed. 3:32 am again 😛 💤 [02:32:55] nn [02:52:00] Hello! [02:55:47] /auth [02:56:11] :thonk: [03:03:23] tis /verify [03:46:05] is there a way i can see the trafic or the analytics in ? [03:46:57] Special:Analytics if you're a bureaucrat [03:47:14] goated thanks [03:50:25] [1/2] btw @ccxtwf when i check our homepage in google chome it doesn have the icon do u know why? [03:50:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444173632141262909/image.png?ex=692bbf01&is=692a6d81&hm=d087cbb3c943ebf6e50ed023554e38ec2db200e547034dc9c79063da0d21b71a& [03:52:41] It's Google indexing at work. People on this server who're more familiar with SEO might help, but sometimes stuff like this is out of your control. [04:04:10] [1/2] ok why is it like this [04:04:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444177093624594603/image.png?ex=692bc23a&is=692a70ba&hm=e5a91610f65e937dc4bb362bf89cbe84c9be7362abae4d7696b9ef0ea3feadf9& [04:04:23] how do I fix this [04:10:05] [1/2] What skin is this? [04:10:05] [2/2] Looks like it might be rendering in Dark Mode, but because of the custom white background the text became unreadable instead [04:35:19] [1/2] what in the hell is portals.deldao.com [04:35:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444184932543889439/Screenshot_2025-11-28_at_23.32.22.png?ex=692bc987&is=692a7807&hm=9d7cdaf4e3af5fa54ad661d30fd25f92497917e16d14c69e4d227d2322d3af3e& [04:38:02] oh its some sort of internet filtering thing [04:38:22] wonder what they said about my wiki 🙏 (it probably got blocked) [05:34:23] hi, if interested → https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1001373934874284112/1343717044763234355 [06:54:47] public test wiki has cargo enabled? [07:00:13] and we don't have visualadata :ThinkerMH: [07:02:31] wikibase doesn't seem like a bad option but it's frankly ugly [07:38:26] hmm I've got a general question to help decide on what to do for my own wiki... How do y'all like to organize info for media that has sequels using the same characters? Subsections/tab extensions on the same page? Separate subpages? Something else? [07:39:11] in my case it's a video game so a lot of the functions and areas are different but there's a shared cast [07:39:50] i wanna say tabber [07:40:19] i had such experience only w/ borderlands where playable characters became npc's so yeah [07:40:57] but on my hero shooter wiki im planning to implement tabber to divide skills and stuff info between different versions of the game [07:43:37] that does seem like a nice way to go about things, I just haven't seen it used yet. Can entire pages be split by tabs, or does it only work on individual sections? [07:43:59] like a tab at the top of the page for different info [07:45:17] id say depends how articles were structured initially [07:49:48] [1/4] on my wiki character page is in fact several subpages presented as "fake tabber", because there's way too much info to store on single page, alternative would be just simply putting links a la main article [07:49:49] [2/4] my plan was to put use actual tabber only in abilities section of single, primary page [07:49:49] [3/4] [07:49:49] [4/4] i suppose same can be done if your character article is neat on one page [07:54:33] i mean, also could depend how much more differences there are between installments, maybe entire tab per game us sufficient [07:54:55] oh hey gigantic! Fancy seeing a miraheze wiki for that game 😁 Let me take a peek [07:55:45] ooooh I see what you mean with the "fake tabs". Very interesting! [07:56:31] yeah well, i migrated it after october closed test but then couldn't fight seo (fandom wikis, then some guy starting a wiki.gg) + frustration w/ new version [07:59:15] ah yeahhh just had issues trying to fork with somebody from fandom with my wiki as well lol [08:00:17] I think yours looks pretty solid! [08:01:14] thank you, i originally was admining fandom wiki before og shutdown, put a lot into fixing and prettying all the stuff [08:19:46] [1/2] it's not 😔 [08:19:46] [2/2] how am i supposed to test cargo w/o requesting it on my wikis [09:36:46] https://exttest.mirabeta.org/wiki/Cargo ? i'm not sure if it allows any user to edit or only techs [09:40:15] i never seen this wiki [09:40:45] i don't have mirabeta .. [09:42:57] it only has 25 users [09:43:01] latter [09:44:14] i mean i was aware of mirabeta as a whole but didn't know it has several wikis [09:45:52] exttest is more like regression tests [09:46:03] poor mediawiki dev's unit and integration test [09:48:22] does mirabeta all use newer mw version> [10:04:47] yes [10:49:08] are there non-extensions, js based solutions to embed yt videos? [10:49:26] like we have bandcamp and souncloud embed scripts [10:49:45] embedvideo frankly sucks w/ bandcamp [10:52:07] sounds possible, but i;m not in the mood to make one ^^; [10:55:15] why do i keep logging out of my account everytime someone changes a skin like vector2022? [10:55:30] CA is a mystical beast [11:03:36] [1/2] Amateur here. Is there a way I can change the sector header color (white) to a different one (via Timeless.css)? [11:03:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444282646531149937/Screenshot_2025-11-29_030118.png?ex=692c2488&is=692ad308&hm=cf322ab54dd3a6b2af95ef2877fd6a525d8727b5be73ec62025389e1ac9a335e& [11:04:29] https://xyy.miraheze.org/?oldid=96061#L-296 [11:04:40] skin doesn't matter, you are going to poke portable infobox css, and yes [11:05:38] this is a basic one with yt's native embed player [11:06:05] we also have a more complicated one using video.js to insert youtube videos [11:07:50] [1/4] things to consider [11:07:50] [2/4] - "buttons" to different timestamps [11:07:51] [3/4] - one video stops when another starts playing [11:07:51] [4/4] - customized sizing of embed (i achieved w/ scuffed css solution before) [11:08:06] try video.js? [11:08:18] we even add our own closed captions to yt videos with it [11:08:50] [1/2] live demo: https://xyy.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:Fansub [11:08:50] [2/2] code: https://xyy.miraheze.org/wiki/Module:SpecialFansub [11:11:14] [1/2] skin doesn't matter, you are going to poke portable infobox css [11:11:15] [2/2] try `.pi-header` and `.pi-navigation` [11:33:37] [1/2] is there a way to upload mp4? :c [11:33:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444290200032383026/image.png?ex=692c2b91&is=692ada11&hm=980734a58b67d1facd9a0023be7c95d135a658637817932695b0ce0abd70cfd0& [11:40:54] in setting allowed file types [11:41:06] also need timedmediahandler extension to play videos [12:03:59] [1/4] Inspect element, determine the sector's html class, then do ```css [12:03:59] [2/4] .sector-header-selector { [12:04:00] [3/4] color: whatever you want; [12:04:00] [4/4] }```Also see pinned message https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1319311694979403849 [12:36:34] [1/2] this tells me nothing, ill be honest [12:36:34] [2/2] neither the subs things cus that's not what im looking for [12:42:33] it supports 1.44 as well, one of my test wikis uses that [12:54:57] @theoneandonlylegroom did you check this? [12:55:17] i don't know what im looking at [12:55:38] from googling i only get that VideoJS comes w/ TMH extension? [12:55:39] or? [12:57:24] i don't code js or lua, just like that it doesn't make sense to me [12:57:55] i can find only guides at videojs.org [12:58:55] [1/2] well my google seems a bit different maybe [12:58:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444311666241048646/image.png?ex=692c3f8f&is=692aee0f&hm=5e1420343be2da4f95bcbac8b96773bd38a130dc3d7571218062eb214fd73b57& [12:59:39] so you can create a video.js instance and bind such event to a button [13:02:51] wait didn't you want a js solution? [13:03:02] what do you mean by don't code js [13:03:26] I don't know js [13:03:39] yes, i understand that js is most likely the way [13:03:44] but i don't know it [13:04:48] embedvideo can't do what is required [13:04:56] a js solution w/o writing js sounds novel [13:05:05] well man [13:05:07] is that called vibecoding [13:05:11] that's why im asking [13:05:16] lokig for guides [13:05:20] not ai answers [13:05:37] you just drop links at me [13:05:48] i'd still recommend video.js doc: https://docs.videojs.com/ [13:09:35] ||btw i really dk how to code now without ai answers..|| [13:30:30] still try to drop it altogether and learn [13:30:50] i tried and now i feel like im better than coding than myself when i was overly reliant on ai [14:05:10] I’m back [14:05:23] I have one question. How do I reset perms? [14:06:57] [1/2] I can show you the problem I’m having… [14:06:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444328785787752643/78611794812__183122BF-4833-43F5-94D8-93673F9C7119.mov?ex=692c4f80&is=692afe00&hm=b09e8cccbef1098dc85e7e4c03bd9e2c8e921d372debb7af3f0a15aaabe1e3d0& [14:07:43] you can ask at [[SR/P]] for user permissions reset [14:07:44] [14:08:11] i can't see what the warning says tbh [14:13:18] Oh it just says that page is protected [14:14:15] remove protection? [14:14:42] also maybe check if you enabled an extension related to page protection [14:14:59] are you trying to say that you're unable to switch to source editor for the main page? [14:15:31] [1/2] if so, click this, then click "Source editor" [14:15:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444330945065779200/image0.jpg?ex=692c5183&is=692b0003&hm=5ae5d4b0539082fadb92b43421f2334b5c7866a2a1e7cc205144bca5ae74fc0e& [14:16:01] oh wait i just scrolled to the end of the vid [14:17:14] [1/2] @shi0149 is this enabled? [14:17:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444331374273105930/image0.jpg?ex=692c51ea&is=692b006a&hm=e012cd1f79e0024fd23a9db97092dc6097599cfd1c5384f6461b6a0ada0260e0& [14:18:26] he said he did yesterday [14:19:25] This is on [14:20:09] Both visual and editing toolbar are on. [14:22:48] Wait [14:23:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1444333015856713849/IMG_2973.jpg?ex=692c5371&is=692b01f1&hm=e25aecdbed59081bdfb0bc3bb3de85a92d3914a1fd92c5a8d72210b9a595e592& [14:23:54] Is wiki editor usually hidden? [14:24:20] what are you doing here ... [14:24:36] apparently screwing up things [14:24:39] lol [14:24:43] this is just for RecentChanges page [14:25:09] I suggest you to revert to defaults then lol [14:30:49] 1) you can still create/edit so it's only warning you not stopping you 2) a permissions reset won't fix that [14:31:10] I can also literally see a change protection button in that video [14:32:52] That’s the main page. [14:35:57] d [14:35:57] wa [14:35:58] d [14:35:59] w [14:35:59] sd [14:35:59] @kubaaa_k You're sending messages too quickly. [14:36:00] w [14:36:00] @kubaaa_k You're sending messages too quickly. [14:36:00] as [14:36:10] ew [14:36:12] spam [14:36:26] On the first page in your video too [14:36:37] @Discord Moderators [14:39:26] I’m going to make a backup and ask for someone to revert it back to its normal settings. [14:39:35] They’ve been muted for 8h if they start back up, I’ll give em a boot [14:40:07] Thanks @zppix [15:20:31] K [15:20:39] I got what I wanted backed up [15:27:02] Okay. The task is in support [15:27:12] I’ll check back in when I’m free [15:27:52] you seem to ignore what rhinos said [15:27:58] you can change protection [15:28:26] also reset isn't done here, you should ask on meta wiki, what i linked earlier [15:34:58] K [15:36:30] A permissions reset will do nothing here [15:38:14] yeah i meant that he made a thread about it ... [15:39:17] I’m so sorry. [15:51:26] [1/3] K. [15:51:26] [2/3] I have done what Rhino said to do. That page no longer exists anymore. None of my pages are protected. [15:51:26] [3/3] Still, my options to use source or visual and the toolbox is still not appearing on new created pages, I turned off and turned on both the visual editor, and source editor. Still nothing. [16:25:00] Timeless reminds me of 2022!Vector mixed with Old!vector [16:32:38] [1/5] I wish I had [16:32:38] [2/5] - the sticky sidebars of vector 2022, esp toc [16:32:38] [3/5] - the containers of timeless (if you have a bg you want to show, you'll understand what I mean) [16:32:38] [4/5] - the fixed width of timeless (or default to wide for v22) [16:32:39] [5/5] - the default font sizes and spacing of vector 2022 + font size toggle [16:46:04] you want [[mw:Manual:How to make a MediaWiki skin]] [16:46:11] [16:49:34] oh god [16:49:58] maybe something in the far future [16:51:31] adding a bunch of customisations to timeless and trying to see if I can float the TOC after the left sidebar scrolls up enough is probably the medium term plan [16:53:22] for now vector works ig, or I could customise timeless but skip the floating toc part [16:56:07] I think timeless tries to make itself more readable with text size/spacing stuff but it has a bunch of weird issues like with the mobile header spacing that I don't think I've fully figured out yet [17:25:07] What skin do you wish existed but does not? [17:26:02] fandom desktop open source [17:28:17] I thought there was a testing skin starting with "E" [20:35:54] what's the template or module that links text from an infobox to wikipedia? [20:41:00] you can make links to wikipedia like this `[[w:Infobox|Wikipedia about infobox]]` [21:04:01] oasis skin fork [21:04:58] and monaco with all of it's features (which are probably just wikia's but oh well( [21:08:42] Supised no one has done that one yet [21:42:44] I thought Cosmos was Oasis fork? [21:50:59] i'm pretty sure it isn't [22:04:33] it is [22:06:07] it is? [22:06:35] whatever it did makes it not look like one tbh [22:10:32] It looks pretty similar to how Oasis looked before it was sunset [22:10:53] It looks nothing like the original Oasis, but its pretty similar to the final verison (other than button sizes and the right rail which are totally off) [22:13:32] what is the difference between the button sizes and right rail from the original oasis? [22:14:00] the difference is they don't look the same, I guess. [22:14:18] not really much I can say to give an idea; you'd have to find a screenshot to compare. [22:14:47] a screenshot OR wayback machine [22:28:35] [1/6] Hello wonder people at Miraheze [22:28:36] [2/6] On my Wiki, I can't find images uploaded by a friend of mine at the "Insert" >> "Images and Media" section in Visual Editor. I have tried searching names of my friend's images, but they do not show up at all. (I can however search exact names of my images and find them.) [22:28:36] [3/6] - Both of us upload images through Special:Upload. [22:28:36] [4/6] - Neither of us select a specific license during upload. [22:28:37] [5/6] - As a Wiki Creator, I have given him same permissions I have (Administrator + Bureaucrat) (I can trust him by the way.) [22:28:37] [6/6] - The Wiki in question is https://morphforgewiki.miraheze.org/ [22:49:32] Registration is closed to the public, but if a non-tech member has a good reason (e.g. test things in MediaWiki 1.45) access can be granted.