[00:33:57] I am literally watching the files get imported rn [00:48:01] [Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip](https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1440823929269915678.png?size=160&name=Siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip) [00:48:05] how it feels ^ [00:48:19] i guess [00:49:02] also i sent a reply regarding the role request, idk if its gonna be granted [01:20:33] role req? [01:25:00] i had a steward request regarding a local election for the find the markers wiki. it has been (almost) 5 days (in my timezone) since it was open [01:35:16] Some [01:40:44] tysm [02:17:18] Would anyone be up to help me with making my wikis prettier? [02:17:36] I am having a problem where they all look identical and I am confused which one I am on and do the wrong editing [02:28:37] Perhaps the skins? [02:29:53] Yes [02:38:58] I do not know how to use skins and would like help in choosing them and changing wiki branding [02:59:20] hello! i'd just like to ask: where do i put this text? [02:59:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443798391862595707/image.png?ex=692a6189&is=69291009&hm=6b62412904eed2d5f89e4af42d58035a69d839b33d023cfb7d540b3a00b556a2& [03:00:04] as in: where do i put mw.loader.load("https:/\cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/lihaohong6/MirahezeDevScripts@dist/dist/BackgroundImage/gadget-impl.js"); such that it finally works and i can live in peace? [03:00:05] @never_was_taken That link is not allowed. [03:00:30] as in: where do i put mw.loader.load("[INSERT THE FUCKING LINK HERE]"); such that it finally works and i can live in peace? [03:00:30] @never_was_taken Watch your language. [03:17:05] (ok look to the admins who look at my posts i promise the only thing i did wrong was say the f-bomb once, i promise i will not do it again) [03:17:28] (i am very, very sorry for wasting your time, i just want to send links) [03:17:33] (to js files) [03:17:39] (and example images) [03:17:42] (i' [03:22:21] No need to worry mate [03:22:48] No trouble at all, it’s just an automated filter because the spam has been an issue before [03:23:26] No issue with hitting it by accident, and language in the server is advised to be kept around PG-13, so, alls good [03:24:02] thx [03:25:15] does this mean we have one "fuck" before the server becomes r-rated [03:25:47] it's already r-rated bud [03:26:04] ...does me deleting it count? [03:26:08] sorry, off-topic [03:27:09] ah its fine if we keep the tangnet short and simple [03:27:58] anyways would anyone with the proper knowledge and background in copyright look at my (admittedly big) copyright page for my wiki [03:28:10] … [03:28:19] shit good point [03:42:52] Every server member is allowed 1 (one) fuck /j [04:08:54] I speak like a teenager very much so, so I’m not exactly one to talk, but expletives for the purposes of emphasis and venting are de facto fine, obviously if being used genuinely as attacks or hate that’s a very different story (and obviously we don’t entertain slurs). [04:09:07] Just so everyone is on the samw page [04:33:51] there's a difference between "fuck this" (good) vs "fuck you" (bad) [04:35:39] [1/2] and til dyno does this (what's the trigger??) [04:35:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443822626895036497/1764304533768.png?ex=692a781b&is=6929269b&hm=2df7ddbe199b055775bc039d1585a5d5035efadcd1f92ba319cd8e189fd420aa& [04:36:41] [1/2] hihi it is possible to add hyplink images in navigation in citizen? [04:36:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443822885423677571/image.png?ex=692a7858&is=692926d8&hm=e8443bd753271c3d8ce46a64f3dc9b4a58c20153375ba755d1d3fc9b76056e9a& [04:36:47] Yup, or “lol fuck you /lh” and “go fuck yourself and die”. Difference is a jest and a potential conduct policy borderline [04:37:49] getting back on topic, my question has been left unanswered, where do i paste this thing? [04:38:17] should i format it manually and add it as a gadget? [04:38:35] :ThinkerMH: also i haven read the input rules is using Client-Side Injection is allowed? so basically i tryna bypass to make a input filter system [04:39:38] perhaps a gadget? [04:39:46] dyno may think its a malicious link [04:39:48] i do that to load JWB [04:40:08] https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/MediaWiki:Gadget-JWB.js [04:40:17] That mixed with them being unverified is probably it yeah [04:40:39] hmm... mw.loader.load("https:/\cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/lihaohong6/MirahezeDevScripts@dist/dist/BackgroundImage/gadget-impl.js"); [04:40:45] oh hm [04:40:47] thats weird [04:40:47] i sent a link without thinking again [04:40:56] #verify to make your life easier [04:41:09] k i’ll do it there [04:42:47] ahh finally [04:43:18] You're blue teal now, that's our attack /j [04:44:12] mmmm, teal or turquoise [04:44:59] I went with teal bc I can remember how to spell it bahaha [04:45:10] More like turquoise for me. [04:45:11] thank you so, so much [04:45:22] yw ^_^ [04:59:26] that’s what phone spell suggestions is for [05:01:07] https://excaeliscientia.miraheze.org/wiki/Sandbox it still does not work! [05:06:14] You underestimate my power, if I don't memorize the spelling of a word I'm very good at being so bad at spelling the spell suggestions cannot help me XD [05:09:03] help what am i doing wrong with the background [06:06:41] you need more plumbing for gadgets [06:06:48] enable gadgets in managewiki [06:07:46] prolly move MediaWiki:Gadget-JWB.js to MediaWiki:Gadget-BackgroundImage.js [06:08:16] [1/4] and add the follownyan to MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition: [06:08:16] [2/4] ``` [06:08:16] [3/4] * BackgroundImage [ResourceLoader | default | hidden] | BackgroundImage.js [06:08:17] [4/4] ``` [06:13:04] I'm not sure why you need to go to all this trouble for a background? [06:13:31] I suppose if you want individual page backgrounds [06:29:08] easiest way is place it in MediaWiki:Common.js [06:30:05] it's a template on dev [06:30:40] if something on dev makes all the trouble maybe there should not be dev at all.. [06:31:44] btw plz note this script does not support chrome 135-. https://caniuse.com/single+color+stop has detailed [06:34:26] [1/2] isn't it bc the doc is not detailed enough? [06:34:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443852518504271924/image.png?ex=692a93f1&is=69294271&hm=9ad32269108a7bb21c3bbdbb7286f1a8500d471921adb005c060d2e6732b1adc& [06:35:27] [1/2] afaik fandom's dev gives detailed instruction on how to import js with a premade template like this [06:35:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443852774491029565/image.png?ex=692a942e&is=692942ae&hm=93bd6c9355e24934b6420696682338aa532f6abc6ffa80972d755d7cc50f522c& [06:36:25] it doesn't say where to load at all. ofc seasoned users know site js, user js, gadgets, or even the browser console are all where you can load it [06:37:00] fandom's doc for such seems to be more friendly for beginners [06:38:38] Fixed. Will take a bit for the cache to clear. [06:41:19] at least there have been two users asking how to use dev:template:background in one day [06:42:32] [1/3] It's left that way because it's not templatized, so any effort to improve it will be superseded by some template in the future. [06:42:32] [2/3] I'm of the opinion that total beginners who don't know how to import a script should not be using that template. It is meant to be a "here's some basic stuff, use it and then change it to your needs" type of thing. But maybe I should make a bit more beginner-friendly. We already have plenty of foot guns on Miraheze and it doesn't hurt to give them one mor [06:42:32] [3/3] e. [06:42:45] IIRC the same person asked the same question twice [06:43:05] ah sorry i didn't notice it's the same person [06:43:41] [1/2] dev needs a `How to add this script to your wiki` template [06:43:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443854848603721738/image.png?ex=692a961d&is=6929449d&hm=f678343438176047bd2a313a181e95764277d5f32c6b212508c0a4d94feb184c& [06:44:48] the first thing I'm wondering is whether they actually need the functions of Template:Background [06:45:11] if you just want a sitewide background, you can do it in Common.css [06:45:12] page-specific background. seems common [06:46:28] ||(or even a crazier idea: make a script to make mediawiki:importjs work similarly to fandom's bc many wikis are moving from fandom|| [06:50:40] SRD had an idea of a "gadget importer" which provides a user interface for one-click gadget imports. [06:51:14] [1/2] i've also seen another solution on a farm using mw1.38: they use gadget and gadget definition namespaces so users can one-click import gadgets [06:51:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443856745918369874/image.png?ex=692a97e1&is=69294661&hm=f1024ac017eeaf614a1fe5b2d3478083dab2cad4e8f1b0d02306b0e8e08042b5& [06:51:29] what's srd [06:51:57] the idea sounds similar to the one i'm talking about [06:53:37] EXACTLY. [06:54:00] SomeRandomDeveloper [06:54:19] sorry didn't notice it's short for a user name [06:55:39] [1/3] it also allows developers to update gadgets easily and local users can simply one-click re-install the gadget to get updated [06:55:39] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443857856054169693/image.png?ex=692a98ea&is=6929476a&hm=c7f4c7641c4802b3337cdddcdbeb6695b1d57e01cddd41917e4e76ea957b3bc6& [06:55:39] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443857856381063229/image.png?ex=692a98ea&is=6929476a&hm=9fcb317ddd96578dea6c25c5ec0cbb6dab1311825ffe38e1776ac7665dcd9639& [06:56:29] but this solution only works on mw 1.41-, so we can not likely use it [07:00:01] i’m doing this as an implementation of https:/\amaranth-legacy.community’s scopes idea [07:00:28] the farm also uses a bot account with global permissions to import the gadgets for users so users w/ only sysop but not interface permissions can also install them. idk if this is a good idea but somehow similar to fandom's permission control: sysops, even not allowed to edit js directly, can use premade js scripts on dev as they're confirmed [07:01:15] they have different themes for each scope, so my idea was to make people who were making new articles in their scopes copy-paste a massive block of code to make the page pretty [07:02:32] ah sorry, i overkilled it ^^; [07:03:09] @never_was_taken I added some more instructions on https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Background#Usage [07:03:25] Sounds like you need a template in place of a massive block of code. [07:03:48] it's scuffed but i haven't even tried it yet sooo [07:03:58] also i do not know how to do that [07:05:08] it's already working on your wiki [07:05:52] also hey person who made the background who is much smarter than me! i am not sure what to think about you specificall changing the instructions for me. i'll continue now. [07:05:57] https://excaeliscientia.miraheze.org/wiki/Sandbox really? [07:06:06] [1/2] yes. the ::before has been added [07:06:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443860488663339119/image.png?ex=692a9b5e&is=692949de&hm=bb8505db4222981589ba6d83efad4a034dadc6af40bec556d15c6ca6a8fc54d3& [07:06:22] it's not shown bc we're not using latest chrome [07:07:16] if the script has been updated, you can https://www.jsdelivr.com/tools/purge to purge it [07:07:31] I just purged it [07:07:35] [1/2] Seems fine now [07:07:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443860860148781156/image.png?ex=692a9bb6&is=69294a36&hm=1ee3590569213c228eaf440ddb92df352f5bca60c5529dc368a87b2dedb26da5& [07:07:57] ||weren't you using chrome 135+ from the beginning|| [07:08:06] rip the readability in light mode [07:08:26] ...hahahaha [07:08:52] that was a test, i'll try something else later [07:08:57] fair :3 [07:08:58] I can see the repeated colors in `linear-gradient`, so I'm going to assume that I fixed the single-stop issue. [07:09:03] ofc [07:09:21] we should test on firefox 68 esr under windows xp /hj [07:09:43] i'd test in a actual browser, or you may dk what else is happening [07:10:13] I should also try to provide some real support for citizen since there's not a single line of code that accommodates citizen. It works because of the way citizen was designed. [07:10:22] it does work well now [07:10:41] haha, i'll try to keep up with the updates [07:11:06] it's updated automatically if you're using `@dist` [07:12:14] [1/2] i used this but i am not sure if that keeps it stuck at one version or updates it automatically [07:12:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443862033312383118/image.png?ex=692a9cce&is=69294b4e&hm=07dc4c519f8346adf23c832f86f02a9023539a8771c6dc400e84c76a0ad56e60& [07:12:20] i think it keeps it stuck [07:12:24] that may be good for stability [07:12:29] stuck at one version [07:13:14] what we can use is to automatize the process of adding a line to gadgets-definition and importing the gadget [07:13:47] requiring ia [07:14:05] but is fair enough [07:14:37] i mean, https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Special:Gadgets/export/JWB looks neat [07:15:32] it only exports the latest revision [07:15:55] i question its copyright compliance [07:16:25] ah [07:18:53] [1/2] altho many ppl know it, describe fandom's technic again here for comparison: you simply add a line on a specific message page to import scripts on dev [07:18:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443863703127720049/image.png?ex=692a9e5c&is=69294cdc&hm=65412e0e4431b5253316e087534561342671775a03c30071ad9d0eba6447195f& [07:20:23] it's somehow like “you can only use the gadgets on dev and cannot modify them (many offer ways to configurate)” [07:21:30] also, you don't copy the exact code at all so there's also no copyright issue [07:23:35] (doesn't the current dev have to issue? `mw.loader.load(` from dev is ofc alright. but import a template from dev to a wiki of like cc by-nc-sa, is copyright infringement bc dev uses cc by-sa with sa meaning sharealike [08:46:06] [1/3] there are 2 groups of skins [08:46:07] [2/3] - go to manage extensions admin link, then skin tabs - you can click on names of skins, they will open a mediawiki.org page w/ screenshots; but you gotta be mindful w/ choice because you might like something but it could turn out unmaintained or hard to customise; most popular skins over there are Cosmos and Citizen [08:46:07] [3/3] - go to manage additional settings links, styling tab, default skin dropdown - it has some skins that are "hard coded", most proper skins in there are Vector (old version), Vector 2022 (that's default), Timeless and Monobook (very old but still stable skin) [08:46:51] [1/2] for example my wiki uses Timeless [08:46:52] [2/2] [08:47:17] you also can check some skins on Meta Wiki [08:47:53] meta's skin list is not up to date [08:48:02] managewiki has latest list [08:48:03] [08:48:07] i meant this [08:48:49] oh (meta doesn't install every available skin either [08:49:05] it does for ones i mentioned [08:50:26] woah these look really good [08:51:08] surprised they weren't mentioned in previous navbox convos [08:51:21] is it Lua too? [08:51:40] there are two Lua based navbox builders from Fandom Dev Wiki [08:51:55] ive been using them fine all these years [08:52:10] yeah [08:52:23] although ive become a bit skeptical over navboxes in general [08:52:33] wikigg's mysterious RCLN templates [08:52:45] (Random Capital Letters Named [08:53:07] DRUID infobox, RANGER navbox, what's next [08:53:51] I only see one navbox on dev and idk if it's mobile responsive [08:54:17] i used fandom dev's but it doesn't work well when we moved to miraheze, so i simply re-wrote it [08:54:31] oh wait fandom dev not miraheze dev [08:55:14] i guess they updated something then [08:55:40] last time i worked w/ them in 2023, on 3 forked wikis [08:56:12] [1/2] not really ig [08:56:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/407537962553966603/1443888193509265418/image.png?ex=692ab52b&is=692963ab&hm=df297c0f2474680d03300542b48a52ff4d140dfcf5de1a49e05e8b10dd33afdc& [08:56:36] once the group name is too long it's disaster on mobile [08:57:13] (fandom's global css hides navbox on mobile [08:57:24] i rewrote a responsive one in general [08:58:48] do you have a link to yours? [08:59:09] like a page with an example [08:59:23] https://xyy.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Against_the_Dark_Force [08:59:46] [1/3] mobile and desktop: [08:59:47]